[swinog] [deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org: Cisco's Statement about IPR Claimed in draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure]
Hi networkers, I wonder if everyone here is cisco-minded, or if some disagree with their patent methodology to govern the Internet. - Forwarded message from Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - IETF is utterly diseased. Cisco can't help it -- this is a US business model. Patenting security. Feel free to give Robert at Cisco a call. I wonder if he knows about the song yet. http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure.txt Title: Cisco's Statement about IPR Claimed in draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure Received: April 26, 2004 From: Robert Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cisco is the owner of one or more pending patent applications relating to the subject matter of "Transmission Control Protocol security considerations" . If technology in this document is included in a standard adopted by IETF and any claims of any Cisco patents are necessary for practicing the standard, any party will be able to obtain a license from Cisco to use any such patent claims under reasonable, non-discriminatory terms, with reciprocity, to implement and fully comply with the standard. For information contact: Robert Barr Worldwide Patent Counsel Cisco Systems 408-525-9706 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of Forwarded Message - End forwarded message - -- Key fingerprint = 121C BB26 F4EE 59AF 5E68 7020 5BC9 D7AB 4CBE C6AD RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Shame on you! - No-shows at SWINOG-8
I just wonder if doing the meeting in a university would cost more or less. On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 05:51:54PM +0200, Steven Glogger typed: :: i think the point is just that our cool swinog team is looking each time for :: a bigger and nicer place for our meetings. :: more space = other locations -> more investigations (for the right place) :: and sometimes it really costs more (see kursaal). :: it also just unfair for the core team which is investing much (private) time :: for us and unfair for the sponsor which pays for a lot of free seats. :: :: would it be an idea in some kind of 'attention fee' which includes also :: lunch? :: :: -steven :: :: > -Original Message- :: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of :: > Arnold Nipper :: > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 5:34 PM :: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: > Subject: Re: [swinog] Shame on you! - No-shows at SWINOG-8 :: > :: > :: > On 03.05.2004 17:26 Candid Aeby wrote: :: > :: > > How about this: now shows will sponsor the next beer event :: > ;-) or Dinner? :: > > :: > :: > Just a comment from the outback: why do you complain about SPAM messages :: > when doing this open castigation? Or maybe I should read the Swinog :: > charter ;-) :: > :: > :: > Arnold :: > :: > ___ :: > swinog mailing list :: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: > http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog :: > :: :: ___ :: swinog mailing list :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] sw8
I did send an email to pgl@ due to the fact that somebody in my family had to go to hospital during the night before the event. sorry for the cancellation procedure though. -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] ISPs using FreeBSD
hi andre@,
I'm no isp ;-/ but hopefully in the way of becoming
a {free||net||open}bsd committer...but let's say "i didn't annoyed
enough developpers for diffs yet.
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 03:53:38PM +0200, Martin Ebnoether typed:
:: On the Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 11:45:51AM +0200, Andre Oppermann blubbered:
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:: Hi Andre.
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Re: [swinog] cablecom antispam strategy
Hopefully we will come to some cooperating directions. One that might be the *trust* way, where we deal with x.509 certificate to manage a trust of mta (sharing the policies regarding spam) Kind of mail *peering*. One might be the credit way, where we score mta's, and longer they prove their good behaviour, higher credits they get. (a bit like clearinghouse scoring (dccd)) :-) On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 03:06:26PM +0100, Daniel Lorch typed: :: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- :: Hash: SHA1 :: :: hi :: :: | Is the argument *this host has a PTR RR* meant as *official* mta, :: | or *this host has a PTR RR resolving the same as the mta's hostname :: | in the smtp handshaking? :: :: If we're at it: How paranoid are your MTAs? If a server connects :: to mine I do a PTR lookup for the connecting host IP. If a PTR :: exists, I allow the connection, if not, I fail. :: :: But the existence of a PTR alone doesn't guarantee anything. The :: PTR should also be verified (check whether reverse and forward :: lookup match). :: :: Is anyone doing this? I quickly looked through my inbox and manually :: checked a couple of mailservers I found. If I would be verifying :: the PTR, half of my (legit) mails wouldn't be coming through any- :: more. :: :: daniel :: :: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- :: Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) :: Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org :: :: iD8DBQFAK4hiS2WJ/hBy2k8RAnQgAJ9OA6pm0AnFtospAPsf7kS+4Ua/jACeNDRK :: pVuQW7mwK4PwKyi4GeAQhgQ= :: =Wmzd :: -END PGP SIGNATURE- :: -- :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: :: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
[swinog] cablecom antispam strategy
Hi, Relating to the swissonline/hispeed event about the new checks for the connecting mta to mx.hispeed.ch, I was wondering how is handled the fact that many ISPs add PTR RR for their adsl customers or dialup customers. I mean, behind these connections can exist both *official* small mta and suspect ones. Is the argument *this host has a PTR RR* meant as *official* mta, or *this host has a PTR RR resolving the same as the mta's hostname in the smtp handshaking? -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] PGP Key Signing?
pgp scenarios are nice subjects, until it comes to user social vulnerabilities ;-) you get my vote. On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:16:14AM +0100, Guentensperger, Robert typed: :: Hi Oliver, :: :: I guess it would be a great opportunity for the next meeting not only :: signing keys but also to hear some details about PGP organisation, internals :: etc. etc. etc. :: :: What do others think about that? :: :: Best regards, :: Robert :: :: :: |-Original Message- :: |From: Oliver Hitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :: |Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2004 09:08 :: |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: |Subject: Re: [swinog] PGP Key Signing? :: | :: | :: |On 09 Feb 2004, Olivier M. wrote: :: |> A session @swinog8 would surely be interesting, but I guess :: |> the main issue would be the time such an operation requires: :: |> for 50-80 people, an hour or more would be necessary. Maybe :: |> there is some space left in the agenda... ? :: | :: |Up to now, if I have counted correctly, I have 7 votes for key signing. :: |If there aren't many more, I think we can safely do this during a break :: |or after lunch. If there are many more, we should probably postpone it :: |to another SwiNOG meeting as Michel has pointed out already (e.g. in :: |combination with a speech about the PGP Web of Trust). :: | :: |As for how such an event is organized, the GPG Keysigning :: |Party Howto at :: | :: | http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html :: | :: |mentions also decentralized sessions during which the participants :: |verify their key information informally on a one-to-one basis. This has :: |the downside that probably not all keys will be signed by all the :: |participants. :: | :: |Oliver :: |-- :: |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: :: |http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ :: | -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
[swinog] bluewin.ch contact please
Hi, Can anyone from bluewin.ch contact me off list please, this is regarding a probably blacklisted domain. Thanks. -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
[swinog] SWINOG event question
Hi, what is the schedule as *call for participation* ? thanks. -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
[swinog] closing 7th edition
hi, just some words for saying i was very happy to be there and it was an interesting day. i couldn't stay for the social evening unfortunately but anyway i thank people for coming and setting up the meeting. see you next. julien. -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] "delegation only" patch?
remained with 9.2.2P1 that identifies netblock verisign and returns NXDOMAIN. On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 07:04:53PM +0200, Matthias Leisi wrote: > G'morning, > > Just a quick review: which providers have already installed the > Bind "delegation only" patch re. Verisign/Sitefinder (or similar > for their environment)? > > -- Matthias > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] e-mail blacklists / RBL etc..
ooops, forgot the link : relaydbp, sorry for typo. relaydb is part of openbsd. http://smagin.com/relaydbp -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] e-mail blacklists / RBL etc..
hi, i dislike public blacklists and prefer build personal one. there is an easy way to do it by storing mails identified as spam by a filter. then use relaydb[1] to extract suspicious relay (ip adresses), then simply filter the ip on incoming tcp:25 connections. as we are full master of the list, we don't depend on anyone to update the changes. we can also do blacklisting as well as whitelisting for smtp relay. regards. On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:02:28PM +0200, Roger Buchwalder wrote: > Hello Steven. > > > Steven Glogger wrote: > > >hi all > > > >as you've seen in the news, there are some guys DDoS'ing some e-mail > >blackslists. it seems that the spammers are trying to kill all those > >services. > >so in the last few days/weeks these services went down: > >- blackholes.compu.net > >- monkeys.com > >- osirusoft > >etc. > > > >i still use these services: > >http://ordb.org/ > >http://www.spamcop.net/bl/ > > > >what do you use additionally? good experiences? > we're using these Servers: > > http://www.into.ch/spam.php > > >i've seen also that abuse.easynet.nl is offering such a service, or > >dsbl.org. bl.reynolds.net.au? > You should not use xbl. this server will mark almost every e-mail. > > > > >greetings > > > >steven > > > >__ > > > >Steven Glogger > >Technical Manager / Software Development > > > >Altrax AGPhone +41 1 256 81 11 > >Zähringerstrasse 24 Fax +41 1 256 81 12 > >Postfach mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >8025 Zürich http://www.altrax.com > >__ > > > >-- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ > >. > > > > -- > Für weitere Auskünfte stehen wir Ihnen gerne jederzeit zur Verfügung. > > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > Roger Buchwalder > > Internet Online AG > Adlikerstr. 290 > 8105 Regensdorf > Switzerland > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > tel +41 1 871 40 70 > fax +41 1 871 40 80 > > . > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- Key fingerprint = C549 46E1 1B75 116E 3321 BC0A E502 9457 319E B340 RFC822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] << www.NetBSD.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
