Re: [sword-devel] Open Hebrew Lexicon
Hey all, I haven't disappeared, and I'm following the discussion with great interest, but I'm a bit out of my depth to be participating in it. I'm 'techie' enough to edit raw XML if I have to (though I don't relish the prospect), and if there are Linux tools other than WeSay for editing LIFT documents, all the better. I've emailed David with some questions to help me get my bearings in the discussion (followed by a lot of whining about minute points of his schema). Once you guys get some kind of conclusions ironed out with regard to the format, which is not my area, I'll be very happy to supply information, labor, and opinions (plenty of these) in the linguistic department, which is my area. Aaron ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Difficult Greek question
Thanks Karl, I believe the user was using StrongsGreek from the default repo rather than StrongsRealGreek from the Xiphos repo so I will also raise a bug report for the StrongsGreek module. Martin On 5 September 2011 13:41, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: FYI, StrongsRealGreek in the Xiphos repo has been updated, version 1.4-110905, to reflect this fix (3156, ref 3164 = 3161) as well as a similar, previously reported glitch in 5043 (ref 5098 = 5088). ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
I'm working with a pair of Bible files, both are in imp format with ThML formatting embedded in the verses. I have imported plenty of files akin to these, with no noticeable difference between them all, yet these two produce consistent segfaulting at the border between Joel 4:1 and Joel 4:2. Does anyone have an idea what is going on? The files are here: http://dl.thehellings.com/SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem http://dl.thehellings.com/SL_PG_BI_TPC.thml.lorem Warning - not for the faint of heart. They weigh in at about 10 and 13MB apiece. --Greg ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
Does the same segmentation fault occur when using imp2vs.exe in Windows? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/imp2vs-segfault-tp3793577p3794046.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
Wouldn't know. I don't go near Windows without hip waders (or the promise of a paycheck, when it comes to my day job) on if I can help it. Plus, I doubt that imp2vs.exe is as up to date as the version I'm using in Linux. You're more than welcome to give it a try. I used the command imp2vs file -4 -o . to do the import. I also tried adding '-v Catholic' in, since these are French and Portugese modules, but that results in endlessly repeating messages of linking different verses together. --Greg On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:24 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Does the same segmentation fault occur when using imp2vs.exe in Windows? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/imp2vs-segfault-tp3793577p3794046.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
The utils tend to choke when you throw data at them in a radically wrong versification system. Specifically, they'll choke if you give them texts with extra chapters. Joel only has 3 chapters in the KJV versification, which you're using, so you get a segfault when you feed imp2vs a Bible with four chapters in Joel. There is a bug somewhere, but fixing the bug still isn't going to make this the correct versification. One of the Catholic versifications is probably the closest we have. I'm not sure about the endlessly repeating messages of linking different verses together. Are they literally endless and repeating the same linkage? That's not a bug that I know of in any of the tools. (If it's the same verse repeating, which verse is it? And have you checked that there isn't some sort of error in the verse numbering in/around that verse?) There is also a French versification system that we know of but haven't implemented yet, which might be a better fit. --Chris On 9/6/2011 10:30 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: Wouldn't know. I don't go near Windows without hip waders (or the promise of a paycheck, when it comes to my day job) on if I can help it. Plus, I doubt that imp2vs.exe is as up to date as the version I'm using in Linux. You're more than welcome to give it a try. I used the command imp2vsfile -4 -o . to do the import. I also tried adding '-v Catholic' in, since these are French and Portugese modules, but that results in endlessly repeating messages of linking different verses together. --Greg On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:24 PM, David Haslamdfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Does the same segmentation fault occur when using imp2vs.exe in Windows? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/imp2vs-segfault-tp3793577p3794046.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: The utils tend to choke when you throw data at them in a radically wrong versification system. Specifically, they'll choke if you give them texts with extra chapters. Joel only has 3 chapters in the KJV versification, which you're using, so you get a segfault when you feed imp2vs a Bible with four chapters in Joel. Well that explains that phenomenon. There is a bug somewhere, but fixing the bug still isn't going to make this the correct versification. An error message would at least be nice. Hey, not sure what to do with this verse. One of the Catholic versifications is probably the closest we have. I'm not sure about the endlessly repeating messages of linking different verses together. Are they literally endless and repeating the same linkage? That's not a bug that I know of in any of the tools. (If it's the same verse repeating, which verse is it? And have you checked that there isn't some sort of error in the verse numbering in/around that verse?) I would just like to reiterate - the files are freely available for anyone to take a look at and test out. This way anyone can see what is going on and hopefully help come to an informed decision about what is going on. http://dl.thehellings.com/SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem http://dl.thehellings.com/SL_PG_BI_TPC.thml.lorem These are the two files in question. I have now uploaded a copy of the output of this command $ imp2vs SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem -4 -o SL_FR_BI_PDV -v Catholic 21 SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem.err to the above location as well for you to check out. It is a 95MB file that resulted from allowing the above command to run for about 20 or 30 seconds before doing a keyboard break. I'm looking at about 2.25 million lines of output there which start out perfectly normal from file: Ge 1:1 adding entry: Genesis 1:1 length 240/240 from file: Ge 1:2 adding entry: Genesis 1:2 length 149/149 from file: Ge 1:3 adding entry: Genesis 1:3 length 136/136 ... And then turn into adding entry: Amos 9:15 length 2159/2159 from file: Ob 1 adding entry: Obadiah 1:1 length 823/823 linking entry: Obadiah 1:2 to Obadiah 1:1 linking entry: Obadiah 1:3 to Obadiah 1:1 linking entry: Obadiah 1:4 to Obadiah 1:1 snip linking entry: Obadiah 1:21 to Obadiah 1:1 from file: Ob 2 adding entry: Obadiah 2:1 length 492/492 linking entry: [ Module Heading ] to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: [ Testament 1 Heading ] to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 0:0 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:0 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:1 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:2 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:3 to Obadiah 2:1 snip linking entry: Jonah 1:14 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Jonah 1:15 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Jonah 1:16 to Obadiah 2:1 from file: Ob 3 adding entry: Obadiah 3:1 length 465/465 linking entry: [ Module Heading ] to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: [ Testament 1 Heading ] to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 0:0 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:0 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:1 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:2 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:3 to Obadiah 3:1 snip linking entry: Jonah 2:8 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Jonah 2:9 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Jonah 2:10 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Jonah 2:11 to Obadiah 3:1 from file: Ob 4 adding entry: Obadiah 4:1 length 438/438 linking entry: [ Module Heading ] to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: [ Testament 1 Heading ] to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: Genesis 0:0 to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:0 to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:1 to Obadiah 4:1 And so on. I don't see what's so special about this point in the module, but maybe someone else can? Again, I encourage you all to take a look at the files yourself and see if you all can see something I'm missing. --Greg There is also a French versification system that we know of but haven't implemented yet, which might be a better fit. --Chris On 9/6/2011 10:30 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: Wouldn't know. I don't go near Windows without hip waders (or the promise of a paycheck, when it comes to my day job) on if I can help it. Plus, I doubt that imp2vs.exe is as up to date as the version I'm using in Linux. You're more than welcome to give it a try. I used the command imp2vsfile -4 -o . to do the import. I also tried adding '-v Catholic' in, since these are French and Portugese modules, but that results in endlessly repeating messages of linking different verses together. --Greg On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:24 PM, David Haslamdfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Does the same segmentation fault occur when using imp2vs.exe in Windows? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/imp2vs-segfault-tp3793577p3794046.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list:
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
On 9/6/2011 10:15 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Chris Littlechris...@crosswire.org wrote: The utils tend to choke when you throw data at them in a radically wrong versification system. Specifically, they'll choke if you give them texts with extra chapters. Joel only has 3 chapters in the KJV versification, which you're using, so you get a segfault when you feed imp2vs a Bible with four chapters in Joel. Well that explains that phenomenon. There is a bug somewhere, but fixing the bug still isn't going to make this the correct versification. An error message would at least be nice. Hey, not sure what to do with this verse. One of the Catholic versifications is probably the closest we have. I'm not sure about the endlessly repeating messages of linking different verses together. Are they literally endless and repeating the same linkage? That's not a bug that I know of in any of the tools. (If it's the same verse repeating, which verse is it? And have you checked that there isn't some sort of error in the verse numbering in/around that verse?) I would just like to reiterate - the files are freely available for anyone to take a look at and test out. This way anyone can see what is going on and hopefully help come to an informed decision about what is going on. http://dl.thehellings.com/SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem http://dl.thehellings.com/SL_PG_BI_TPC.thml.lorem These are the two files in question. I have now uploaded a copy of the output of this command $ imp2vs SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem -4 -o SL_FR_BI_PDV -v Catholic 21 SL_FR_BI_PDV.thml.lorem.err to the above location as well for you to check out. It is a 95MB file that resulted from allowing the above command to run for about 20 or 30 seconds before doing a keyboard break. I'm looking at about 2.25 million lines of output there which start out perfectly normal from file: Ge 1:1 adding entry: Genesis 1:1 length 240/240 from file: Ge 1:2 adding entry: Genesis 1:2 length 149/149 from file: Ge 1:3 adding entry: Genesis 1:3 length 136/136 ... And then turn into adding entry: Amos 9:15 length 2159/2159 from file: Ob 1 adding entry: Obadiah 1:1 length 823/823 linking entry: Obadiah 1:2 to Obadiah 1:1 linking entry: Obadiah 1:3 to Obadiah 1:1 linking entry: Obadiah 1:4 to Obadiah 1:1 snip linking entry: Obadiah 1:21 to Obadiah 1:1 from file: Ob 2 adding entry: Obadiah 2:1 length 492/492 linking entry: [ Module Heading ] to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: [ Testament 1 Heading ] to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 0:0 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:0 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:1 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:2 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:3 to Obadiah 2:1 snip linking entry: Jonah 1:14 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Jonah 1:15 to Obadiah 2:1 linking entry: Jonah 1:16 to Obadiah 2:1 from file: Ob 3 adding entry: Obadiah 3:1 length 465/465 linking entry: [ Module Heading ] to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: [ Testament 1 Heading ] to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 0:0 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:0 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:1 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:2 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:3 to Obadiah 3:1 snip linking entry: Jonah 2:8 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Jonah 2:9 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Jonah 2:10 to Obadiah 3:1 linking entry: Jonah 2:11 to Obadiah 3:1 from file: Ob 4 adding entry: Obadiah 4:1 length 438/438 linking entry: [ Module Heading ] to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: [ Testament 1 Heading ] to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: Genesis 0:0 to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:0 to Obadiah 4:1 linking entry: Genesis 1:1 to Obadiah 4:1 And so on. I don't see what's so special about this point in the module, but maybe someone else can? Again, I encourage you all to take a look at the files yourself and see if you all can see something I'm missing. I would guess that you can fix these issues by adding a chapter number (1) to all of the verses in books with only one chapter (Obadiah, Philemon, 2 John, 3 John, Jude). --Chris ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
On 07/09/11 06:36, Chris Little wrote: I would guess that you can fix these issues by adding a chapter number (1) to all of the verses in books with only one chapter (Obadiah, Philemon, 2 John, 3 John, Jude). You were by a minute too fast for me. It is beyond me to implement, but if the debug facility of osis2mod could get ported over to imp2vs, I guess this would be useful Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault
On 9/6/2011 10:48 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: On 07/09/11 06:36, Chris Little wrote: I would guess that you can fix these issues by adding a chapter number (1) to all of the verses in books with only one chapter (Obadiah, Philemon, 2 John, 3 John, Jude). You were by a minute too fast for me. It is beyond me to implement, but if the debug facility of osis2mod could get ported over to imp2vs, I guess this would be useful Peter Alas, imp2vs just isn't (and probably won't ever be) as well supported as osis2mod. Personally, even if I export via mod2imp in order to fix some small problem with a text, I convert the imp file to OSIS and use osis2mod. I would guess that should work fine for a document with verse-internal ThML markup too, as another option. (But I could be wrong, maybe there's some introspection of verses that I'm not thinking of and that would be tripped up by ThML.) --Chris ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
