Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Kahunapule Michael Johnson]

  
  
Thank you, Martin. 
  
  1. Well, that is embarrassing. I'm glad you pointed that out.
  Rebuilding is in progress. That one affects a lot of modules.
  2. I filled in the missing descriptions in the Haiola metadata. It
  will be in the conf files with the next rebuild (again, in
  progress). I also coded a fallback, such that the long English
  description will be used if there is no short English title in my
  input data.
  3. The stray globals.conf has been disposed of.
  
  An incremental rebuild is in progress live on
  ftp://ftp.eBible.org/swordbeta, alphabetically by module name. If
  no obvious problems with swordbeta present themselves, I'll
  overwrite ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword with that repository once it
  is done and I do a spot check to make sure it worked.
  
  On 09/02/2015 10:18 AM, Martin Denham wrote:


  
And Bible/JSword is reporting errors in some conf files:

1. In cta1981.conf and many others the extra trailing '*'
  obstructs line continuation:


   \* 
You must give Attribution to the work. \
 \* 
You do not sell this work for a profit. \
 \* 

2. Many modules have no description
  e.g. kdc2014

  Malformed conf file for apeB2013. No
Description found. Using internal of apeB2013
  
  Malformed conf file for msk1975. No
Description found. Using internal of msk1975
  Malformed conf file for kmk2003. No
Description found. Using internal of kmk2003
  Malformed conf file for vid2014. No
Description found. Using internal of vid2014
  
  Malformed conf file for mbs1982. No
Description found. Using internal of mbs1982
  Malformed conf file for jae1980. No
Description found. Using internal of jae1980
  Malformed conf file for xon2014. No
Description found. Using internal of xon2014
  
  Malformed conf file for kdc2014. No
Description found. Using internal of kdc2014
  
  

3. In mods.d.tar.gz there is a
  miscellaneous file called globals.conf which causes JSword to
  throw an error and prevents And Bible loading the eBible repo.

  Book not supported: malformed conf
file for globals no ModDrv found.
  Malformed conf file for globals. No
Description found. Using internal of globals
  
  

Cheers

Martin

  On 2 September 2015 at 20:13, David
Haslam 
wrote:
In
  fact, it was even worse than that.
  
  The installed module [spaRV1909] got corrupted due to the
  fact that the
  earlier module had not been first removed by Xiphos, as it
  would have done
  in the normal course of events.
  
  I have just manually removed the eBible module, and
  reinstalled the
  CrossWire module [SpaRV1909].
  So apart from file date stamps, I'm back to where I was an
  hour ago.
  
  Another possible source of confusion is that the CrossWire
  module is
  encrypted, yet comes with its own key.
  The eBible module [spaRV1909] is not encrypted.
  
  David
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Kahunapule Michael Johnson]

  
  
Lacking a compelling reason to do
  otherwise, I have removed spaRV1909 from the eBible.org sword
  repository.
  
  I haven't bothered encrypting any Sword modules, yet. I might do
  that for proprietary copyrighted Bibles in the future if that is
  what it takes to get permission to distribute them, but I really
  don't want to get involved in key management and sales.
  
  The irony that the guy who contributed encryption algorithm and
  code to the Sword project currently sees little point in using it
  has not escaped me.
  
  On another topic, one use of cryptography in Bible modules that
  would be worthwhile would be implementing digital signatures for
  assurance that a module hasn't been tampered with since it was
  released. Perhaps another day...
  
  On 09/02/2015 09:13 AM, David Haslam wrote:


  In fact, it was even worse than that.

The installed module [spaRV1909] got corrupted due to the fact that the
earlier module had not been first removed by Xiphos, as it would have done
in the normal course of events.

I have just manually removed the eBible module, and reinstalled the
CrossWire module [SpaRV1909].
So apart from file date stamps, I'm back to where I was an hour ago.

Another possible source of confusion is that the CrossWire module is
encrypted, yet comes with its own key.
The eBible module [spaRV1909] is not encrypted.

David





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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Martin Denham]

And Bible/JSword is reporting errors in some conf files:
1. In cta1981.conf and many others the extra trailing '*' obstructs line
continuation:

 \*
You must give Attribution to the work. \
 \*
You do not sell this work for a profit. \
 \*

2. Many modules have no description e.g. kdc2014
Malformed conf file for apeB2013. No Description found. Using internal of
apeB2013
Malformed conf file for msk1975. No Description found. Using internal of
msk1975
Malformed conf file for kmk2003. No Description found. Using internal of
kmk2003
Malformed conf file for vid2014. No Description found. Using internal of
vid2014
Malformed conf file for mbs1982. No Description found. Using internal of
mbs1982
Malformed conf file for jae1980. No Description found. Using internal of
jae1980
Malformed conf file for xon2014. No Description found. Using internal of
xon2014
Malformed conf file for kdc2014. No Description found. Using internal of
kdc2014

3. In mods.d.tar.gz there is a miscellaneous file called globals.conf which
causes JSword to throw an error and prevents And Bible loading the eBible
repo.
Book not supported: malformed conf file for globals no ModDrv found.
Malformed conf file for globals. No Description found. Using internal of
globals

Cheers
Martin

On 2 September 2015 at 20:13, David Haslam  wrote:

> In fact, it was even worse than that.
>
> The installed module [spaRV1909] got corrupted due to the fact that the
> earlier module had not been first removed by Xiphos, as it would have done
> in the normal course of events.
>
> I have just manually removed the eBible module, and reinstalled the
> CrossWire module [SpaRV1909].
> So apart from file date stamps, I'm back to where I was an hour ago.
>
> Another possible source of confusion is that the CrossWire module is
> encrypted, yet comes with its own key.
> The eBible module [spaRV1909] is not encrypted.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[David Haslam]

In fact, it was even worse than that.

The installed module [spaRV1909] got corrupted due to the fact that the
earlier module had not been first removed by Xiphos, as it would have done
in the normal course of events.

I have just manually removed the eBible module, and reinstalled the
CrossWire module [SpaRV1909].
So apart from file date stamps, I'm back to where I was an hour ago.

Another possible source of confusion is that the CrossWire module is
encrypted, yet comes with its own key.
The eBible module [spaRV1909] is not encrypted.

David





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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[David Haslam]

Michael,

Your module [spaRV1909] has the same DataPath as the CrossWire module
[SpaRV1909].

This name clash needs resolving asap, else other users will meet the same
problem I just experienced.

The fact that the first letter is lowercase in your module name is
effectively ignored by the Xiphos module manager. 

When I installed yours v2.11, it replaced the earlier CrossWire module which
is still version 1.01

Rather confusingly, Xiphos retained the Lucene search index generated from
the CrossWire module
It was that which first alerted me. After installing your module, I switched
to the Maintenance window.
I was surprised to see that a module that I had just installed had somehow
already been indexed!

Unless the modules happen to be identical, the old index would not be valid
for the new module!

Xiphos module update is supposed to first remove the earlier version
completely, yet it seems that in this subtle scenario, it failed to do so. 
Karl may wish to look into how this happened.

Best regards,

David



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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Kahunapule Michael Johnson]

  
  
Sorry, I should have said HTTPS is not
  supported by all front ends. Note that HTTPS is not HTTP.
  
  The eBible.org repository can be reached at:
  https://eBible.org/sword
  http://eBible.org/sword
  ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword
  ftp://ftp.ebible.org/pub/sword
  
  All of those lead to the same physical files on the same disk.
  
  For the test/beta repository, substitute "swordbeta" for "sword"
  in the above URLs.
  
  On 09/02/2015 02:24 AM, Martin Denham wrote:


  The http link is missed from the first post but
works fine with JSword.  And Bible is using http to access the
repo.


Martin
  
  
On 2 September 2015 at 06:04, Chris
  Burrell <christopher.burr...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  
It's
  the only supported protocol for jsword (step, and
  bible, ...) though I believe dm may have implemented
  ftp recently
  
  
From:
Greg Hellings
Sent:
‎02/‎09/‎2015
  04:20
To:
SWORD Developers' Collaboration
Forum
Subject:
        Re:
      [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

  
  

  Why is HTTPS not supported? It's
supported by the engine and by at least BibleTime
and Xiphos AFAIK.


--Greg
  
  
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:03
  PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <kahunap...@ebible.org>
  wrote:
  
 The main
  repository has been updated with revised
  modules with Strong's numbers (5 of them). The
  update is about markup and conf files, with no
  change to source text.
  
  Also, I used symbolic links to allow the /pub
  in the directory to be omitted. In other
  words, ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword
  works just as well as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/sword
  and ftp://ftp.eBible.org/swordbeta
  works just as well as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/swordbeta.
  
  If you ever wonder if you are getting the
  latest version and suspect ISP-level caching
  of defeating my updates, you can try using https://eBible.org/sword/.
  The HTTPS protocol isn't currently a supported
  repository access method, but you could use a
  browser to grab a copy of what you are
  interested in, then install locally from that
  copy.
  -- 

  



  
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  publishing,
  


  


  

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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

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On 09/02/2015 01:19 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote:
> grcTisch (Tischendorf)
> Version=2.9
> History_2.9=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source files
> dated 2014-01-11
Weakness: Still no variants, per source text (11 verses).

Error: Morph content is present but there is no OSISMorph config
specification, meaning it can't be turned on/off, in turn meaning it's
always present, so in Xiphos the morph data overlays Strong's numbers
when Strong's is enabled; when Strong's is disabled, morph data appears
in "native" mode of the filter output (i.e. "following parenthetically").
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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Kahunapule Michael Johnson]

  
  
These are the latest versions at ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword:
  
  engKJV1769 (KJVD)
  Version=8.1
  History_8.1=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source
  files dated 2015-08-31
  
  spaRV1909 (RV1909)
  Version=2.11
  History_2.11=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source
  files dated 2015-08-10
  
  grcTisch (Tischendorf)
  Version=2.9
  History_2.9=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source
  files dated 2014-01-11
  
  hbo (Masoretic)
  Version=2.9
  History_2.9=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source
  files dated 2013-12-11
  
  hboWLC (WLC)
  Version=2.10
  History_2.10=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source
  files dated 2014-04-08
  
  
  
  On 09/02/2015 04:30 AM, David Haslam wrote:


  Xiphos will only categorize under "Updates" if the Version has changed.

For a minor tweak where only the conf file is changed, the third part of the
Revision ought to be incremented.  Did you ensure this was done?

I just refreshed the repo in Xiphos, but I see no updates.

On the other hand, I may not have previously installed all these 5 modules.

David



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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[David Haslam]

As would the majority of almost 700 eBible module that I did not install at
first.

David



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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 09/02/2015 10:30 AM, David Haslam wrote:
> On the other hand, I may not have previously installed all these 5 modules.
Then they would show under "Uninstalled" instead of "Updates".
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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[David Haslam]

Xiphos will only categorize under "Updates" if the Version has changed.

For a minor tweak where only the conf file is changed, the third part of the
Revision ought to be incremented.  Did you ensure this was done?

I just refreshed the repo in Xiphos, but I see no updates.

On the other hand, I may not have previously installed all these 5 modules.

David



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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[David Haslam]

Several front-ends have a user action to force a refresh for the remote
module resource.
Among these are Xiphos and PocketSword.

Xiphos does support both FTP and HTTP.
PocketSword only supports FTP for adding new sources.

Do ISPs really sometimes cache FTP? 
I'd only expect them to cache high demand HTTP pages.

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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Martin Denham]

The http link is missed from the first post but works fine with JSword.
And Bible is using http to access the repo.

Martin

On 2 September 2015 at 06:04, Chris Burrell 
wrote:

> It's the only supported protocol for jsword (step, and bible, ...) though
> I believe dm may have implemented ftp recently
> --
> From: Greg Hellings 
> Sent: ‎02/‎09/‎2015 04:20
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum 
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak
>
> Why is HTTPS not supported? It's supported by the engine and by at least
> BibleTime and Xiphos AFAIK.
>
> --Greg
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <
> kahunap...@ebible.org> wrote:
>
>> The main repository has been updated with revised modules with Strong's
>> numbers (5 of them). The update is about markup and conf files, with no
>> change to source text.
>>
>> Also, I used symbolic links to allow the /pub in the directory to be
>> omitted. In other words, ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword works just as well
>> as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/sword and ftp://ftp.eBible.org/swordbeta
>> works just as well as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/swordbeta.
>>
>> If you ever wonder if you are getting the latest version and suspect
>> ISP-level caching of defeating my updates, you can try using
>> https://eBible.org/sword/. The HTTPS protocol isn't currently a
>> supported repository access method, but you could use a browser to grab a
>> copy of what you are interested in, then install locally from that copy.
>> --
>> Your partner in electronic Bible publishing,
>>
>>
>>
>> *MICHAEL JOHNSON PO BOX 881143 PUKALANI HI 96788-1143*
>> USA eBible.org
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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Chris Burrell]

It's the only supported protocol for jsword (step, and bible, ...) though I 
believe dm may have implemented ftp recently

-Original Message-
From: "Greg Hellings" 
Sent: ‎02/‎09/‎2015 04:20
To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

Why is HTTPS not supported? It's supported by the engine and by at least 
BibleTime and Xiphos AFAIK.


--Greg


On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson 
 wrote:

The main repository has been updated with revised modules with Strong's numbers 
(5 of them). The update is about markup and conf files, with no change to 
source text.

Also, I used symbolic links to allow the /pub in the directory to be omitted. 
In other words, ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword works just as well as 
ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/sword and ftp://ftp.eBible.org/swordbeta works just as 
well as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/swordbeta.

If you ever wonder if you are getting the latest version and suspect ISP-level 
caching of defeating my updates, you can try using https://eBible.org/sword/. 
The HTTPS protocol isn't currently a supported repository access method, but 
you could use a browser to grab a copy of what you are interested in, then 
install locally from that copy.

-- 

Your partner in electronic Bible publishing,


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Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Greg Hellings]

Why is HTTPS not supported? It's supported by the engine and by at least
BibleTime and Xiphos AFAIK.

--Greg

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <
kahunap...@ebible.org> wrote:

> The main repository has been updated with revised modules with Strong's
> numbers (5 of them). The update is about markup and conf files, with no
> change to source text.
>
> Also, I used symbolic links to allow the /pub in the directory to be
> omitted. In other words, ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword works just as well as
> ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/sword and ftp://ftp.eBible.org/swordbeta works
> just as well as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/swordbeta.
>
> If you ever wonder if you are getting the latest version and suspect
> ISP-level caching of defeating my updates, you can try using
> https://eBible.org/sword/. The HTTPS protocol isn't currently a supported
> repository access method, but you could use a browser to grab a copy of
> what you are interested in, then install locally from that copy.
> --
> Your partner in electronic Bible publishing,
>
>
>
> *MICHAEL JOHNSON PO BOX 881143 PUKALANI HI 96788-1143*
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[sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

[Kahunapule Michael Johnson]

Title: signature

  
  
The main repository has been updated with revised modules with
Strong's numbers (5 of them). The update is about markup and conf
files, with no change to source text.

Also, I used symbolic links to allow the /pub in the directory to be
omitted. In other words, ftp://ftp.eBible.org/sword works just as
well as ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/sword and
ftp://ftp.eBible.org/swordbeta works just as well as
ftp://ftp.eBible.org/pub/swordbeta.

If you ever wonder if you are getting the latest version and suspect
ISP-level caching of defeating my updates, you can try using
https://eBible.org/sword/. The HTTPS protocol isn't currently a
supported repository access method, but you could use a browser to
grab a copy of what you are interested in, then install locally from
that copy.
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