Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
On 31 May 2010, at 10:27, Richard D Shank wrote: I'm getting ready to start building a store for a music site. It will only be virtual products for now (mp3 downloads), but it will have some of the elements you are needing. Save yourself a whole heap of trouble and use Magento. I used Magento and built exactly that for 2 very large record labels :) -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
[symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
Yeah actually sales reporting has heaps to do with a shopping cart; clients want fancy graphs which can be changed by easy to use filters with all sorts of useful feedback info; to know different periods of time, compare different items, different kinds of graphs etc. They also want tabular data as well! Individually each of these items might only take a few hours to develop at a minimum, but when we're comparing development costs, a few hours for each of these pieces of functionality suddenly adds up. Add to this, an item typically needs a few photos for it, the ability to rate it, tag it, have comments on it, find related items, have discounts, have discount vouchers, have different sizes. The cart needs to be able to manage quantities of each item type. Payment modules need to be written. And then what about multi currency capabilities? And also i18n for content etc. It also might need to send invoices, perhaps dispatch shipments etc. You really need the whole shebang for a fully functioning system and nearly all of these things are actually more complicated than they sound to develop, so naturally I was hoping that there was already something in existence for symfony ;) On May 31, 6:25 am, Eno symb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, bretth wrote: I agree that it's easy to get a basic shopping cart going; the issue really is all the extra things; the main one being advanced sales reporting. Sales reporting doesn't have much to do with building a shopping cart. That would involve running some queries against your orders database surely? -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
I'm getting ready to start building a store for a music site. It will only be virtual products for now (mp3 downloads), but it will have some of the elements you are needing. Right now, I plan on building it using the work from sfShop. I don't know what your time frame is for needing it, but I intend on contributing everything back that I can. On 05/30/2010 11:31 PM, bretth wrote: Yeah actually sales reporting has heaps to do with a shopping cart; clients want fancy graphs which can be changed by easy to use filters with all sorts of useful feedback info; to know different periods of time, compare different items, different kinds of graphs etc. They also want tabular data as well! Individually each of these items might only take a few hours to develop at a minimum, but when we're comparing development costs, a few hours for each of these pieces of functionality suddenly adds up. Add to this, an item typically needs a few photos for it, the ability to rate it, tag it, have comments on it, find related items, have discounts, have discount vouchers, have different sizes. The cart needs to be able to manage quantities of each item type. Payment modules need to be written. And then what about multi currency capabilities? And also i18n for content etc. It also might need to send invoices, perhaps dispatch shipments etc. You really need the whole shebang for a fully functioning system and nearly all of these things are actually more complicated than they sound to develop, so naturally I was hoping that there was already something in existence for symfony ;) On May 31, 6:25 am, Enosymb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, bretth wrote: I agree that it's easy to get a basic shopping cart going; the issue really is all the extra things; the main one being advanced sales reporting. Sales reporting doesn't have much to do with building a shopping cart. That would involve running some queries against your orders database surely? -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
Bretth, Eno is right, *almost* everything that you mention is not really part of a shopping cart solution. The features that you mention are obviously all very useful for various aspects of sales, but I think you'll have more luck if you search for and combine various different plugins and solutions for each of the features your looking for. Trying to find a shopping cart plugin that offers all those things (especially considering they aren't shopping cart features) is going to be very difficult. Finding a shopping cart plugin with all those features in it is kind of like try to buy a house that already has all the furniture you want, with the entertainment centre already perfectly configured, and decorated exactly how you want it. Sure those things are related, but you'll have a much easier time just getting the individual parts from the people that specialize in them. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Richard D Shank deve...@zestic.com wrote: I'm getting ready to start building a store for a music site. It will only be virtual products for now (mp3 downloads), but it will have some of the elements you are needing. Right now, I plan on building it using the work from sfShop. I don't know what your time frame is for needing it, but I intend on contributing everything back that I can. On 05/30/2010 11:31 PM, bretth wrote: Yeah actually sales reporting has heaps to do with a shopping cart; clients want fancy graphs which can be changed by easy to use filters with all sorts of useful feedback info; to know different periods of time, compare different items, different kinds of graphs etc. They also want tabular data as well! Individually each of these items might only take a few hours to develop at a minimum, but when we're comparing development costs, a few hours for each of these pieces of functionality suddenly adds up. Add to this, an item typically needs a few photos for it, the ability to rate it, tag it, have comments on it, find related items, have discounts, have discount vouchers, have different sizes. The cart needs to be able to manage quantities of each item type. Payment modules need to be written. And then what about multi currency capabilities? And also i18n for content etc. It also might need to send invoices, perhaps dispatch shipments etc. You really need the whole shebang for a fully functioning system and nearly all of these things are actually more complicated than they sound to develop, so naturally I was hoping that there was already something in existence for symfony ;) On May 31, 6:25 am, Enosymb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, bretth wrote: I agree that it's easy to get a basic shopping cart going; the issue really is all the extra things; the main one being advanced sales reporting. Sales reporting doesn't have much to do with building a shopping cart. That would involve running some queries against your orders database surely? -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsymfony-users%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
On Fri, 28 May 2010, bretth wrote: I agree that it's easy to get a basic shopping cart going; the issue really is all the extra things; the main one being advanced sales reporting. Sales reporting doesn't have much to do with building a shopping cart. That would involve running some queries against your orders database surely? -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
[symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
I agree that it's easy to get a basic shopping cart going; the issue really is all the extra things; the main one being advanced sales reporting. I also don't have limitless time to invest; if there was something solid to build off then it would be ideal. On May 26, 11:05 pm, Eno symb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2010, bretth wrote: Thankyou both for those; unfortunately neither are definitive solutions at the moment :) Its pretty easy to write ashoppingcartin symfony - one of the (many) books has an example you can build upon. -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
[symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
Thankyou both for those; unfortunately neither are definitive solutions at the moment :) On May 24, 7:17 pm, Javier Garcia tirengar...@gmail.com wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users/browse_thread/thread/e0b... On 05/24/2010 02:09 AM, bretth wrote: Thanks for the reply Javi, can you point me to the thread? The only recent one I can find on Google Groups about shopping carts is the one from June 2009, which is relation to the outdated, incomplete and Propel based Symfony 1.0 shoppingcartplugin. Is there another thread I can't find? :) On May 24, 2:02 am, Javier Garciatirengar...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2010 12:58 AM, bretth wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for any solutions for putting ashoppingcartsystem into a Symfony 1.4 (Doctrine) project. I have found the oldshoppingCart plugin for Symfony 1.0 but of course want something current and more fully featured (reports etc) I would prefer not to have to completely develop one from scratch; is anyone doing any work on this sort of thing? This is one element that would solidify Symfony as the killer framework as far as I'm concerned :) does any one have any ideas about what I can do? thanks Brett There is a recent thread about it. Maybe can help you.. -- Javi Ubuntu 8.04 - Symfony 1.3 -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- Javi Ubuntu 8.04 - Symfony 1.3 -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
On Wed, 26 May 2010, bretth wrote: Thankyou both for those; unfortunately neither are definitive solutions at the moment :) Its pretty easy to write a shopping cart in symfony - one of the (many) books has an example you can build upon. -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users/browse_thread/thread/e0be57c3d4074d85/f2b58a604f51ae99?lnk=gstq=ecommerce#f2b58a604f51ae99 On 05/24/2010 02:09 AM, bretth wrote: Thanks for the reply Javi, can you point me to the thread? The only recent one I can find on Google Groups about shopping carts is the one from June 2009, which is relation to the outdated, incomplete and Propel based Symfony 1.0 shopping cart plugin. Is there another thread I can't find? :) On May 24, 2:02 am, Javier Garciatirengar...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2010 12:58 AM, bretth wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for any solutions for putting ashoppingcartsystem into a Symfony 1.4 (Doctrine) project. I have found the oldshoppingCart plugin for Symfony 1.0 but of course want something current and more fully featured (reports etc) I would prefer not to have to completely develop one from scratch; is anyone doing any work on this sort of thing? This is one element that would solidify Symfony as the killer framework as far as I'm concerned :) does any one have any ideas about what I can do? thanks Brett There is a recent thread about it. Maybe can help you.. -- Javi Ubuntu 8.04 - Symfony 1.3 -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- Javi Ubuntu 8.04 - Symfony 1.3 -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
[symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
Thanks for the reply Javi, can you point me to the thread? The only recent one I can find on Google Groups about shopping carts is the one from June 2009, which is relation to the outdated, incomplete and Propel based Symfony 1.0 shopping cart plugin. Is there another thread I can't find? :) On May 24, 2:02 am, Javier Garcia tirengar...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2010 12:58 AM, bretth wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for any solutions for putting ashoppingcartsystem into a Symfony 1.4 (Doctrine) project. I have found the oldshoppingCart plugin for Symfony 1.0 but of course want something current and more fully featured (reports etc) I would prefer not to have to completely develop one from scratch; is anyone doing any work on this sort of thing? This is one element that would solidify Symfony as the killer framework as far as I'm concerned :) does any one have any ideas about what I can do? thanks Brett There is a recent thread about it. Maybe can help you.. -- Javi Ubuntu 8.04 - Symfony 1.3 -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
On Sun, 23 May 2010, bretth wrote: can you point me to the thread? http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users/browse_thread/thread/1b400219f764079/3f46afc0de5eb786?lnk=gstq=shop#3f46afc0de5eb786 -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
[symfony-users] Re: Shopping Cart Plugin - 1.2 - Doctrine
Hey Guys, From what I remember the shopping cart plugin doesn't make any use of symfony resources that have changed between 1.0 and 1.2, so I'm pretty sure you're save. As for the propel dependency, yes, there's some code in there that is hardly ever used. The whole plugin is very, very simple and makes some assumptions that aren't necessarily solid (like knowing the tax-rate upfront). I did use it in a pretty big ecommerce setup, and I ended up extending it 3x to teach it all the tricks I needed. But it's a good start, no doubt. Daniel On Jun 24, 1:48 pm, Sergey Osipov sergioosi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stefan, If you don't mind I'll pay your attention to the fact that the plugin seems to be developed for Symfony 1.0 So I believe Duendon also asked about the Symfony versions compatibility regarding this plugin... Sergey Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 11:14:26 PM, you wrote: Hi, A quick check in the sourcecode (http://trac.symfony-project.org/browser/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin/..., for instance from line 338) reveals hardcoded Propel code, however if I understand the code correctly (I have never used this plugin so far) this code (the getObject() and getObjects() methods) is pretty much stand-alone, and you should be able to use the shopping cart system by itself without using this functionality. And of course, you could easily extend the sfShoppingCart class and overload these two methods with Doctrine alternatives for your own use (or, of course, contribute them as a patch to Fabien for possible inclusion in the plugin). Stefan On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Duendon duen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if you can use the Shopping Cart plugin, available for Symfony 1.2, with Doctrine - and how to do this? Cheers, Duendon -- Best regards, Sergey mailto:sergioosi...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Shopping Cart Plugin - 1.2 - Doctrine
Hi, A quick check in the sourcecode ( http://trac.symfony-project.org/browser/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin/lib/sfShoppingCart.class.php, for instance from line 338) reveals hardcoded Propel code, however if I understand the code correctly (I have never used this plugin so far) this code (the getObject() and getObjects() methods) is pretty much stand-alone, and you should be able to use the shopping cart system by itself without using this functionality. And of course, you could easily extend the sfShoppingCart class and overload these two methods with Doctrine alternatives for your own use (or, of course, contribute them as a patch to Fabien for possible inclusion in the plugin). Stefan On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Duendon duen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if you can use the Shopping Cart plugin, available for Symfony 1.2, with Doctrine - and how to do this? Cheers, Duendon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Shopping Cart Plugin - 1.2 - Doctrine
Hello Stefan, If you don't mind I'll pay your attention to the fact that the plugin seems to be developed for Symfony 1.0 So I believe Duendon also asked about the Symfony versions compatibility regarding this plugin... Sergey Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 11:14:26 PM, you wrote: Hi, A quick check in the sourcecode (http://trac.symfony-project.org/browser/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin/lib/sfShoppingCart.class.php, for instance from line 338) reveals hardcoded Propel code, however if I understand the code correctly (I have never used this plugin so far) this code (the getObject() and getObjects() methods) is pretty much stand-alone, and you should be able to use the shopping cart system by itself without using this functionality. And of course, you could easily extend the sfShoppingCart class and overload these two methods with Doctrine alternatives for your own use (or, of course, contribute them as a patch to Fabien for possible inclusion in the plugin). Stefan On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Duendon duen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if you can use the Shopping Cart plugin, available for Symfony 1.2, with Doctrine - and how to do this? Cheers, Duendon -- Best regards, Sergeymailto:sergioosi...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Shopping cart
What exactly do you mean with 'shopping cart'? Does this include processing payments? Or do you just want some classes for filling up and changing the cart 's content? In that case, look at the following plugin: http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin Some documentation: http://www.symfony-project.org/cookbook/1_2/en/shopping_cart James On Apr 18, 12:41 pm, Timothy Bowler m...@timothybowler.com wrote: Hi, Can anyone recommend a good shopping cart that integrates into symfony? I need one for both Symfony 1.0 and Symfony 1.2 Thanks Tim signature.asc 1KViewDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
