t-and-f: Rumours on Greece and doping
Immediately after the European championships you could read rumours about doping in the German press as far as some Greek champions were concerned. These rumours are now nourished when Kenderis, Thanou and Manjani cancelled their participation in Zurich. The facts for these rumours are as follows: Kenderis and Thanou competed only at the NC (Trikkala, 16 June) and at the EuroCup (Banska Bystrica, 23 June). They left out the major EAA and IAAF meetings even on Greek soil. The same is true for Manjani who only competed at minor Greek meetings in early spring. The German press assumes that their abstinence was caused by doping controls at major Greek and international meetings. Moreover, the German press points at an incident some years ago when Greek athletes fled from doping controlers in Germany. Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field Statisticians Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS www.saar.de/~kramer
t-and-f: Webb poll
As of this morning there were 711 votes in the where will Alan Webb be after the 2008 Olympics poll that appeared with the USA TODAY on-line story yesterday. Results: 35.44% - out of the sport, never living up to the hype 30.66% - US record holder at sub 3:47 19.27% - a 3:55 miler 14.63% - Olympic medalist Choices are a bit puzzling. Obviously 2nd and 4th choices are not mutually exclusive. And having run 3:53 as an 18-year-old it's hard to believe he'd still be in the sport as a 3:55 man in 2008; maybe a 3:50 miler would have been a better option.
Re: t-and-f: Webb poll
35.44% - out of the sport, never living up to the hype 30.66% - US record holder at sub 3:47 19.27% - a 3:55 miler 14.63% - Olympic medalist Choices are a bit puzzling. Obviously 2nd and 4th choices are not mutually exclusive. And since he is already at least a 3:55 miler, you could say that the first and third choices are not mutually exclusive either. Kurt Bray _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: t-and-f: Rumours on Greece and doping
They check for dope at the Olympics, World Championships, and European Championships, don't they? Winfried Kramer wrote: Immediately after the European championships you could read rumours about doping in the German press as far as some Greek champions were concerned. These rumours are now nourished when Kenderis, Thanou and Manjani cancelled their participation in Zurich. The facts for these rumours are as follows: Kenderis and Thanou competed only at the NC (Trikkala, 16 June) and at the EuroCup (Banska Bystrica, 23 June). They left out the major EAA and IAAF meetings even on Greek soil. The same is true for Manjani who only competed at minor Greek meetings in early spring. The German press assumes that their abstinence was caused by doping controls at major Greek and international meetings. Moreover, the German press points at an incident some years ago when Greek athletes fled from doping controlers in Germany. Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field Statisticians Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS www.saar.de/~kramer -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: Rumours on Greece and doping
They certainly do. So did Fatima Whitbread, whom I remember coming one early morning and - bang- throwing a WR 77.44m in the qualifications of the WC. And later Petra Falke and her 80 meters flat. No one approaches these distances now, either on the field or in their wild dreams - and the difference between the old and new javelins would not account for even a fraction of the difference. What surprises Winfried and others is how Manjani wins the world champs in 1999, is almost out of the week to week athletics scene till the 2002 EC and wins again. Or thereabout. Or Sofia Sakorafa, who many years ago, rose from being just another good javelin thrower to smash the JT WR by 4 meters (74.08). Admittedly gut-feeling is no guilt proving. UG = Quoting Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They check for dope at the Olympics, World Championships, and European Championships, don't they? Winfried Kramer wrote: Immediately after the European championships you could read rumours about doping in the German press as far as some Greek champions were concerned. These rumours are now nourished when Kenderis, Thanou and Manjani cancelled their participation in Zurich. The facts for these rumours are as follows: Kenderis and Thanou competed only at the NC (Trikkala, 16 June) and at the EuroCup (Banska Bystrica, 23 June). They left out the major EAA and IAAF meetings even on Greek soil. The same is true for Manjani who only competed at minor Greek meetings in early spring. The German press assumes that their abstinence was caused by doping controls at major Greek and international meetings. Moreover, the German press points at an incident some years ago when Greek athletes fled from doping controlers in Germany. Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field Statisticians Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS www.saar.de/~kramer -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: Rumours on Greece and doping
I don't doubt it, but something tells me there was some pretty strict testing at the Olympics and World Champs... especially for finalists and medalists... which the previously mentioned athletes were. Michael From: Winfried Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Winfried Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Rumours on Greece and doping Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:52:34 +0200 Immediately after the European championships you could read rumours about doping in the German press as far as some Greek champions were concerned. These rumours are now nourished when Kenderis, Thanou and Manjani cancelled their participation in Zurich. The facts for these rumours are as follows: Kenderis and Thanou competed only at the NC (Trikkala, 16 June) and at the EuroCup (Banska Bystrica, 23 June). They left out the major EAA and IAAF meetings even on Greek soil. The same is true for Manjani who only competed at minor Greek meetings in early spring. The German press assumes that their abstinence was caused by doping controls at major Greek and international meetings. Moreover, the German press points at an incident some years ago when Greek athletes fled from doping controlers in Germany. Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field Statisticians Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS www.saar.de/~kramer _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: t-and-f: U.S versus Great Britain Russia
It is Zykina, not Zygina in the 400 and Jearl Miles Clark hardly seems in shape to compete with her, given the late time in the season + other limitations. The question is to what extent the US and Russia will field genuine national teams. Past experience is not encouraging. UG = Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a bit surprised I haven't seen any pre-meet publicity for the USA-GB-Russia meet to be held in Glasgow this Sunday. Sure, Zürich is the biggee this weekend, but Sunday's meet includes some good match-ups: 100: Chambers v. Bernard Williams and Jon Drummond. 110H: Jackson v. Johnson TJ: Edwards v. Walter Davis w400: Miles Clark v. Zygina (won Euro 400) wPV: Dragila v. Feofanova Don't know of a particular website for the meet, but the TFN results links section will have a link to the British Federation site, which will certainly have results. Dan Lilot Statistician Track Field News www.trackandfieldnews.com
Re: t-and-f: Webb poll
In a message dated 8/16/02 10:02:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And having run 3:53 as an 18-year-old it's hard to believe he'd still be in the sport as a 3:55 man in 2008; maybe a 3:50 miler would have been a better option. I thought you were always known by your all-time PR. Hence, even if Webb IS running 3:55s in 6 years, wouldn't he still be known as that 3:53 guy? Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: Webb poll
In a message dated 8/16/02 10:02:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And having run 3:53 as an 18-year-old it's hard to believe he'd still be in the sport as a 3:55 man in 2008; maybe a 3:50 miler would have been a better option. I thought you were always known by your all-time PR. Hence, even if Webb IS running 3:55s in 6 years, wouldn't he still be known as that 3:53 guy? Jim Gerweck Running Times You know, now that you mention it, that is a funny way of labeling people. I always thought of myself as being a 4:27 HS miler, but let's face it, I was a 4:30-4:33 guy who popped off one good race. (No guffaws from the sub-4 readers out there, please.) Now El G, on the other hand, is a very genuine 3:26 man. I didn't realize, until I got to browsing the all-time lists last night, that he has hit 3:26 three times. He's also done 3:27 twice and 3:28 four times. That's consistency. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Zurich Stadium Record Prediction Contest
Okay, here's the compendium: New records are predicted in six events. First up, at 8:15pm (11:15am Pacific time), six people all agree that Boulami is going to take down his current Stadium record of 7:58.50 in the Steeple, set two years ago. David Donley says 7:58.30, Ted Polous sais 7:57.3, Pat Crandall says 7:57.24, Adam Knudson says 7:56.88, Scott Jensen says 7:56.45, and Lee Nichols steps up with a world record prediction of 7:54.75! Next up (record prediction, that is), is the Women's 100 at 8:30pm (11:30am Pacific time). Lee Nichols says that Marion is gonna finally take down Evelyn Ashford's ancient 10.76 stadium record, with a 10.72. Nobody else had the gumption to agree with Lee. At 9:00pm (noon Pacific time), we come to the Men's Triple. Several new stadium record predictions [old record Edwards 17.79 (58'4½)], but not everybody even agreed on who would do it! Ted Poulos and Bill Allen both agreed it would be Edwards; Ted predicting a 17.83 (58'6), and Bill going 17.95 (58'10¾). Lee Nichols picks that young whippersnapper Christian Olsson to lay down the hammer with a 17.80 (58'4¾). Five minutes after the TJ start, we get to the men's 100 final at 9:05pm (12:05pm Pacific). (yes, there are semi-finals earlier). People seem to agree that Montgomery's 9.90 stadium record is well done- stick a fork in it. Everybody who stuck a prediction on the line agreed that it'll be world record holder Greene who'll do it. Paul Nisius sees a 9.89, David Donley prognosticates a 9.88, Pat Crandall crystal-balls a 9.86, and Ted Poulous sticks his fork deeply in a 9.82. By the way, I'll credit anything achieved in those semi-finals as well, since any such achievement would certainly count as a Stadium record. At 9:15pm (12:15pm Pacific), we come to another stadium record candidate- the women's 800. Both entries agrees that it will be Ceplak to chop some time off Mutola's 1:55.19 from 8 years ago. Paul Nisius says 1:55.10, while Ted Poulos sees a 1:55.03. Finally, we come to the final new record prediction event- the men's 1500 at 9:30pm (12:30 Pacific). Lee Nichols is the sole brave soul to go out on a limb and posit that El-Guerouj will top his four-year-old 3:26.45 stadium record with a 3:25.95 new World Record!!! Oh yes, Kurt Bray and Mike Trujillo played it safe and predicted NO new stadium records tonight, although Mike noted that Devers might have a shot at her own 12.39 stadium record in the 100H from a couple of years ago. Mike wasn't brave enough (or maybe too smart!) to officially enter a prediction on Devers though. The women's 100H goes off at 9:40pm (12:40 Pacific). Ballsy prognosticator award goes to Lee Nichols who is either gonna rack up a zillion points with his prediction of five stadium records, or go down in flames big time! The reason I noted the times is for those lucky enough to live in a live TV coverage area; or for most of the rest of us- we can try to listen in to the BBC Radio over the internet at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ radio coverage of the meet is supposed to begin about an hour from now (11am Pacific). Good luck everybody- hopefully this generated some interest beyond the meager e-mail traffic so far on this year's GP circuit... RT
t-and-f: USATF Release: Devers, Dragila, Johnson headline Team USA at Norwich Union Challenge
Contact:Melissa Beasley Communications Coordinator USA Track Field (317) 261-0478 x335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, August 16, 2002 Devers, Dragila, Johnson headline Team USA at Norwich Union Challenge INDIANAPOLIS Olympic gold medalists Gail Devers, Stacy Dragila and Allen Johnson will lead a strong Team USA squad against Great Britain and Russia at the 2002 Norwich Union Challenge August 18 at Scoutstoun Stadium in Glasgow, Scotland. Devers enters the fray in Glasgow in the midst of one of her finest seasons. In addition to winning her eighth U.S. 100m hurdles title earlier this year in June, Devers has posted five of the top six times in the world this year in that event. The two-time Olympic 100m gold medalist and three-time World Outdoor hurdles champion has wins this year in Paris, Lausanne, Stockholm, Rome and Monaco. Devers should expect a strong challenge from her teammate Anjanette Kirkland the 2001 World Outdoor champion, who finished third at this years USA Outdoor Championships. A two-time World Outdoor champion and the 2000 Olympic gold medalist in the womens pole vault, Stacy Dragila won her sixth U.S. Outdoor title in June at Palo Alto, California. The world outdoor record holder, Dragila is a six-time U.S. Indoor champion and the 2001 Goodwill Games gold medalist. In what should be a battle of the titans, Dragila will be challenged by Russia s world indoor record holder Svetlana Feofanova. 1996 110m hurdles Olympic gold medalist Allen Johnson regained the #1 ranking in the world last year after winning his third World Outdoor title and fourth U.S. Outdoor crown. Johnson, wholl face world record holder Colin Jackson of Great Britain on Sunday, won his fifth U.S. Outdoor title in June of this year, and currently owns the second-fastest time in the world this season of 13.04 seconds. Americans should also be strong this at Glasgow in the mens triple jump where 2002 U.S. outdoor champion Walter Davis will challenge Great Britains world record holder Jonathan Edwards. Look for Team USA to score well in the mens long jump as 2002 U.S. Indoor champion Miguel Pate, and two-time defending U.S. Outdoor champion, and 2001 World Outdoor Championships silver medalist Savante Stringfellow lead the charge. Additional U.S. womens stars competing in Scotland include 2002 USA Indoor and Outdoor 800 meter champion Nicole Teter in the 1,500 meters, U.S. record holder and 2002 national outdoor hammer champion Anna Norgren Mahon and 2002 USA Indoor womens pole vault champion Mary Sauer. The Team USA roster for the 2002 Norwich Union Challenge is listed below: Men: 100m: Bernard Williams (Gainesville, Florida), Jon Drummond (Las Vegas, Nevada) 200m: Darvis Patton (Fort Worth, Texas), Ramon Clay (Atlanta, Georgia) 400m: Antonio Pettigrew (Raleigh, N.C.), Angelo Taylor (Atlanta, Georgia) 1,500m: Bryan Berryhill (Wellington, Colorado), Seneca Lassiter (Newport News, Virginia) 110m hurdles: Allen Johnson (Raleigh, N.C.), Larry Wade (Los Angeles) 400m hurdles: James Carter (Baltimore, Maryland), Joey Woody (Cedar Falls, Iowa) 4x100m pool: Jason Smoot (Durham, N.C.), Bernard Williams, Jon Drummond, Ramon Clay, Tom Green (Hornick, IA) Long Jump: Miguel Pate (Tuscaloosa, Alabama), Savante Stringfellow (Flowood, Mississippi) Triple Jump: Walter Davis (Baton Rouge, Louisiana) Tim Rusan (Raleigh, N.C.) Javelin: Christopher Clever (Cambridge, Massachusetts), Ty Sevin (College Station, Texas) Women: 100m: Chryste Gaines (Lithonia, Georgia), Torri Edwards (Los Angeles, Calif.) 200m: Angela Williams (Los Angeles, Calif.), Chryste Gaines 400m: Jearl Miles-Clark (Gainesville, Florida), Monique Hennagan (Columbia, S.C.) 1,500m: Nicole Teter (Mountain View, Calif.), Sarah Schwald (Madison, Wisconsin) 100m hurdles: Gail Devers (Atlanta, Georgia), Anjanette Kirkland (Gainesville, Florida) 4x100m pool: Brianna Glenn (Tucson, Arizona), Crystal Cox (Carrboro, N.C.), Inger Miller (Van Nuys, Calif.), Chryste Gaines Pole Vault: Stacy Dragila (Pocatello, Idaho), Mary Sauer (San Dimas, Calif.) Triple Jump: Yuliana Perez (Tucson, Arizona), Vanitta Kinard (Chula Vista, Calif.) Hammer Throw: Anna Norgren Mahon (Orange, Connecticut), Jamine Moton (Clemson, S.C.) For more information, visit the USATF Web site at www.usatf.org # # #
Re: t-and-f: Zurich Stadium Record Prediction Contest
FYI- the Welklasse site has live results for all events, including attempt-by-attempt field results: http://waprod2.bluewin.ch/hc_cust1/results/timetable.html It goes nicely with the BBC coverage. On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, here's the compendium: New records are predicted in six events. First up, at 8:15pm (11:15am Pacific time), six people all agree that Boulami is going to take down his current Stadium record of 7:58.50 in the Steeple, set two years ago. David Donley says 7:58.30, Ted Polous sais 7:57.3, Pat Crandall says 7:57.24, Adam Knudson says 7:56.88, Scott Jensen says 7:56.45, and Lee Nichols steps up with a world record prediction of 7:54.75! Next up (record prediction, that is), is the Women's 100 at 8:30pm (11:30am Pacific time). Lee Nichols says that Marion is gonna finally take down Evelyn Ashford's ancient 10.76 stadium record, with a 10.72. Nobody else had the gumption to agree with Lee. At 9:00pm (noon Pacific time), we come to the Men's Triple. Several new stadium record predictions [old record Edwards 17.79 (58'4½)], but not everybody even agreed on who would do it! Ted Poulos and Bill Allen both agreed it would be Edwards; Ted predicting a 17.83 (58'6), and Bill going 17.95 (58'10¾). Lee Nichols picks that young whippersnapper Christian Olsson to lay down the hammer with a 17.80 (58'4¾). Five minutes after the TJ start, we get to the men's 100 final at 9:05pm (12:05pm Pacific). (yes, there are semi-finals earlier). People seem to agree that Montgomery's 9.90 stadium record is well done- stick a fork in it. Everybody who stuck a prediction on the line agreed that it'll be world record holder Greene who'll do it. Paul Nisius sees a 9.89, David Donley prognosticates a 9.88, Pat Crandall crystal-balls a 9.86, and Ted Poulous sticks his fork deeply in a 9.82. By the way, I'll credit anything achieved in those semi-finals as well, since any such achievement would certainly count as a Stadium record. At 9:15pm (12:15pm Pacific), we come to another stadium record candidate- the women's 800. Both entries agrees that it will be Ceplak to chop some time off Mutola's 1:55.19 from 8 years ago. Paul Nisius says 1:55.10, while Ted Poulos sees a 1:55.03. Finally, we come to the final new record prediction event- the men's 1500 at 9:30pm (12:30 Pacific). Lee Nichols is the sole brave soul to go out on a limb and posit that El-Guerouj will top his four-year-old 3:26.45 stadium record with a 3:25.95 new World Record!!! Oh yes, Kurt Bray and Mike Trujillo played it safe and predicted NO new stadium records tonight, although Mike noted that Devers might have a shot at her own 12.39 stadium record in the 100H from a couple of years ago. Mike wasn't brave enough (or maybe too smart!) to officially enter a prediction on Devers though. The women's 100H goes off at 9:40pm (12:40 Pacific). Ballsy prognosticator award goes to Lee Nichols who is either gonna rack up a zillion points with his prediction of five stadium records, or go down in flames big time! The reason I noted the times is for those lucky enough to live in a live TV coverage area; or for most of the rest of us- we can try to listen in to the BBC Radio over the internet at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ radio coverage of the meet is supposed to begin about an hour from now (11am Pacific). Good luck everybody- hopefully this generated some interest beyond the meager e-mail traffic so far on this year's GP circuit... RT
t-and-f: Boulami Steeple WR
7:53.17!!!
RE: t-and-f: Boulami Steeple WR
Wow, Just a little more than 10 seconds slower than his FLAT 3000m PR (7:42.99, 1998). Wonder what he could run without barriers these days? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Boulami Steeple WR 7:53.17!!!
t-and-f: Steeple WR at Zurich
http://waprod2.bluewin.ch/hc_cust1/results/re0290040.html
t-and-f: Bob Carty
Netters: The death of Bob Carty breaks up one of the two NYC college relay teams which were, to say the least, overachievers in the early 1950s. Bob was the senior member of a team which included 1952 Olympic 100M champ Lindy Remigino, Jack O'Connell and Joe Schatzle. He had run for several years after HS with the NYPC before accepting a Manhattan scholasrhip from legendary coach George Eastment who had just replaced Pete Waters as Jasper mentor after practically creating the modern HS sport of track and field at Bishop Loughlin HS, where his teams had won three of the four championship relays at Penn in 1945 and earned a feature story in Life Magazine. Remogino is, of course, the best known member of the team. O'Connell was a pint-sized sprinter from NJ's Hackensack HS and Schatzle a lankier, but razor-thin graduatye of a NY high school. Carty was the only one witha really man-sized physique as present-day (or even his day) sprinters went. But with letter-perfect passing, they cut quite a swath on the relay circuit. Ed Grant .
t-and-f: Zurich m1500
Whoo! That was close! EL GUERROUJ, Hicham MAR 3:26.89 WR = 3:26.00 Cheers, Buck
t-and-f: Devers AOY Candidate?
see Zurich results (not that I'm a Radcliffe supporter, mind you- but this leaves the women's AOY question rather murky unless you put a lot of credence in XC and road racing) RT
t-and-f: Sacto to host 2003 masters games
Greetings, all I'm still on vacation and have limited access to the Net, but I learned something in Orono that is worth passing along sooner than later. At the USATF masters nationals last week in Maine, WMA official Stan Perkins of Australia confirmed plans for a Pan-Pacific Masters Games in Sacramento in July-August 2003. These Games apparently are an outgrowth of the Asia Pacific Masters Games held in Australia (which Perkins has a hand in). Stan said the Games were to be publicly announced this past week, but I haven't seen anything on the Sacramento Sports Commission Web site, which is: http://www.sacsports.com/ I chatted with Stan for a few minutes at the Orono athletes meeting, and he confirmed a report on the Games that I'd heard earlier in the meet. Stan said Queensland Events (of Australia) and the Sacramento Sports Commission are organizing the 15-sport event. He didn't know what the entry fees would be, but the the third Asia Pacific Masters Games are in a month and charge $70 for the Games and $25 for the first track event (and $5 for subsequent events). The Web site is at: http://www.mastersgames.com.au/trackandfield.htm Not to be confused with the World Masters Games in Australia: http://www.2002worldmasters.org/ The Pan Pacific event raises a bunch of questions. The most serious is: How can a WMA official be involved in (and possibly profiting from) a competing event? Another is: How will this meet affect the 2003 WMA world masters meet in Puerto Rico? If tradition holds, the lowest age for entry in the Pan Pacific meet is 30. And the meet might be held every two years. Another dicey question (which I've put to the SacSports people) is: If Saramento had bid for the 2007 world WMA masters meet, would the Pan-Pacific Games still be planned? With the proliferation of world masters games and similar events, the WMA world championships risk being marginalized. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. It gives masters tracksters more places to compete. But the existence of such competing meets threatens to reduce the quality of the WMA world meet, which already suffers from the Not-All-the-Best-Athletes-Show-up Syndrome. In Orono, I asked Stan about the threat of competing events robbing the WMA meet of its franchise as the place that determines the world's best -- and he replied: Athletes will make their choices depending on their own circumstances, pointing out that the Eugene masters nationals in 2003 could reduce fields in Puerto Rico as well. Stan is one consummate politician. He sounded forthcoming but didn't answer the question. It would be interesting to learn what WMA thinks of such competing events in the years of the world WMA stadia championships. Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com
Re: t-and-f: Devers AOY Candidate?
Radcliffe's London marathon phenomnal debut is not just another road race. Radcliffe has already done all it takes to be voted athelte of 2002. UG === Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see Zurich results (not that I'm a Radcliffe supporter, mind you- but this leaves the women's AOY question rather murky unless you put a lot of credence in XC and road racing) RT
RE: t-and-f: Boulami Steeple WR
Please have mercy on those of us hoping to watch the meet pseudo-live tonight on ESPN2 and do not give away any results in the subject line. Thanks. Kurt Bray _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
t-and-f: Zurich Prediction Contest Results
Congrats to Scott Jensen, who won the contest over Adam Knudson on the tiebreaker. The fork got stuck in most of the contestants over their men's 100 predictions, rather than the fork being stuck in the record, mostly due to an unfortunate change in wind direction between the semi's and the final. What looked like a field ready to jump all over the stadium record after a tailwinded semi, slowed noticeably when the wind changed. That result thinned the prediction contest field considerably. Scott, send your mailing address and 1st prize will be in the mail to you. RT
t-and-f: link to full zurich results
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t-and-f: Fw: [Oztrack] Zurich Meet delivers again
regards, RobV - Original Message - From: Laurie Cousins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Oztrack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:15 PM Subject: [Oztrack] Zurich Meet delivers again WR Mens steeple; El Guerrouj misses WR by 0.89 secs; Tim Montgomery 9.93 9.98; Marion Jones 10.88; Maria Mutola 1:57.24; Joseph Mutua 1:43.33; Ana Guevara 49.16 . more Meet photos at http://www.weltklasse.ch/eng/inhalt.php?nav=meetnavinhalt=meet/photos Womens 1500m 1SZABO, Gabriela ROM YB 3:58.78 2 FAVOR-HAMILTON, Suzy USA 3:59.10 3 TUROVA, Alesia BLR PB 3:59.89 SPLITS: 400m 1:02.84 800 m 2:08.60 1200 m 3:13.96 SZABO, Gabriela (ROM), 1500m You are asking me about my long-term plans? 10,000m or marathon? Never, never. And I will not stop after the 2004 Olympics in Athens. It is very hard to leave the track and crowds after so many nice years. Mens Steeplechase 1 BOULAMI, Brahim MAR WR 7:53.17 (His previous WR was 7:55.28) 2 CHERONO, Stephen KEN 8:05.14 3 KOECH, Paul KEN PB 8:05.44 4 AL-ASMARI, Saad Shaddad KSA 8:12.51 5 KIPKETER, Wilson Boit KEN 8:13.07 * BOULAMI, Brahim (MAR), 3000m steeple The first kilometer was not very quick. So I pushed the pace in the second. When I saw the split of 5:17, I started to think that I can really break the record. For the moment, it's the end of Kenyan dominance but I'm sure they will try to come back and win the record again. Mens 100m Heat 1 Wind +0.3 1 FREDERICKS, Frank NAM 10.06 0.147 2 MILLER, Coby USA 10.07 0.165 3 GREENE, Maurice USA 10.08 0.176 4EMEDOLU, Uchenna NGR PB 10.09 0.162 Heat 2 Wind +1.6 1 MONTGOMERY, Tim USA SB 9.93 0.165 2 CHAMBERS, Dwain GBR PB 9.94 0.148 3 COLLINS, Kim SKN NR 9.98 0.176 4 OBIKWELU, Francis POR 10.12 0.208 5 DRUMMOND, Jon USA 10.15 0.138 FINAL Wind -1.3 1 MONTGOMERY, Tim USA 9.98 0.171 2 MILLER, Coby USA 10.00 0.151 3 CHAMBERS, Dwain GBR 10.05 0.151 4 COLLINS, Kim SKN 10.06 0.179 5 GREENE, Maurice USA 10.10 0.150 6 EMEDOLU, Uchenna NGR 10.16 0.169 7 OBIKWELU, Francis POR 10.19 0.161 8 FREDERICKS, Frank NAM 10.39 0.135 GREENE, Maurice (USA), 100m They ran a very good race, and I ran a bad one. It was simply their day. MONTGOMERY, Tim (USA), 100m Of course, the pressure was here, running against Chambers and Maurice. The headwind (-1.3) had an impact on the winning time but it doesn't matter. What was important was to win. I think I won the race in the pick-up phase. POLE VAULT Men 1 HYSONG, Nick USA 5.80 1 LOBINGER, Tim GER 5,80 11 CHISTIAKOV, Victor AUS 5.50 Womens 100m Wind -0.5 1 JONES, Marion USA 10.88 0.157 2 GAINES, Chryste USA SB 10.95 0.165 3 LAWRENCE, Tayna JAM 11.10 0.178 - 7 HEWITT, Lauren AUS 11.43 0.160 (B Race Wind +1.7) JONES, Marion (USA), 100m I'm highly pleased with my start today. It's good to get this feeling again. I'm satisfied with the last part of the race, too. The pressure after the fifth win is of course rising. You know, this is crunch time... Mens 400m Hurdles 1 SÁNCHEZ, Felix DOM AR,YB 47.35 0.266 SANCHEZ, Felix (DOM), 400m hurdles The most important thing was to win. I got a special motivation when Boulami broke the world record. The crowd was fantastic. I'm not thinking about breaking the world record yet but am still learning. But one day, the time might come. Womens 3000m 1 ADERE, Berhane ETH 8:32.76 2 TOMASHOVA, Tatyana RUS SB 8:33.40 3 O'SULLIVAN, Sonja IRL SB 8:33.62 10 JOHNSON, Benita AUS SB 8:56.63 ADERE, Berhane (ETH), 3000m I changed my tactics and stared the final kick only 150m before the finish line. And it paid off. It's a nice feeling but my favourite distance is the 5000m which I'll compete in at the next meetings. Mens Triple Jump 1 EDWARDS, Jonathan GBR 17,40 EDWARDS, Jonathan (GBR), triple jump I did not take this win as a revenge for Munich. I must repeat I was happy that Christian won the European Championship. Today, I jumped pretty well techincally. It was unusal for me that there was no need to respond to some longer attempts. I still have six competitions this season. It will be tough for my body. Womens 800m 1 MUTOLA, Maria MOZ 1:57.24 2 CEPLAK, Jolanda SLO 1:57.78 3 MARTINEZ, Mayte ESP PB 1:58.29 (First 8 under 2 minutes) 11 LEWIS, Tamsyn AUS 2:04.17 (4 faster in Under 23 race) CEPLAK, Jolanda (SLO), 800m I'm feeling tired. It was not very good on the first lap. On the second 400m, I felt better but the final push on the home straight was missing. I don't know why but I have many opportunities to beat Mutola again this season. MUTOLA, Maria (MOZ), 800m Zurich is always a special one. To win it for the tenth time, great, unbelievable. Of course, I would have liked to have a shot at the world record but I have to be satisfied winning races, too. Mens 1500m 1 EL
Re: t-and-f: Devers AOY Candidate?
Indeed it does. How about Guevarra in the 400? The performances are as good as anyone's put in the past couple of years, and she's now got the edge on Devers in terms of being unbeaten. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see Zurich results (not that I'm a Radcliffe supporter, mind you- but this leaves the women's AOY question rather murky unless you put a lot of credence in XC and road racing) RT = http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy TF @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: t-and-f: Boulami Steeple WR
Lets hope we get to see more than two barriers of this. Kurt Bray wrote: Please have mercy on those of us hoping to watch the meet pseudo-live tonight on ESPN2 and do not give away any results in the subject line. Thanks. Kurt Bray _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
t-and-f: 2002 Texas 4A Shot Put Finals
Does anyone know where I might find the film of the Texas 4A shot put finals from 2002? __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
RE: t-and-f: 2002 Texas 4A Shot Put Finals
The UIL doesn't tape the track meet, so you'd be relying either on television stations or family recordings from the stands -- and fans weren't let anywhere near the shot put ring. You probably have this, but here are the results of Texastrack.com (note to non-Texas high school fans: yes, Michelle Carter is the daughter of Michael) Women Shot Put 4A 1, Michelle Carter, Red Oak, 53-03.75+. 2, Cassaundra Lee, Fort Worth Wyatt, 45-03.50. 3, Lilia Rivera, Fredericksburg, 43-06.50. 4, Kelly Looney, Borger, 42-02.50. 5, Michelle Crimmins, CC Flr Bluff, 40-02.25. 6, Maxine James, Belton, 39-06.25. 7, Stacy Orakpo, Denton, 38-05.25. 8, Brittnay Tuck, Dayton, 35-09.50. Men Shot Put 4A 1, Lucas Mireles, CC Calallen, 66-11.50*. 2, Quintin Echols, Fort Worth Wyatt, 60-11.50. 3, Larry Dibbles, Lancaster, 60-08.50. 4, Derek Randall, Beeville Jones, 60-08. 5, Bobby Suiters, North Crowley, 55-01. 6, John Jamail, Friendswood, 54-02.50. 7, Damone Shorten, Lancaster, 54-02.25. 8, Joe Threats, PA Lincoln, 53-10. -Original Message- From: Joe Reed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: 2002 Texas 4A Shot Put Finals Does anyone know where I might find the film of the Texas 4A shot put finals from 2002? __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
