RE: t-and-f: Americans at NY
Mike Mykytok claimed after the race that he had a problem with his chip and it fell off or something. The New York Road Runners have completed their review and he has been added to the official results in 31st place in 2:26:53. Don't know exactly where Mike was born, but certainly was somewhere within the USA. -Original Message- From: Martin J. Dixon [mailto:mjdixon@;millards.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 3:27 PM To: Track & Field List Subject: t-and-f: Americans at NY A reasonably funny post to letsrun: First U.S.-Born Finisher in NYC Marathon -- Guess Who? Scroll down. Marla Runyan, a 33-year-old blind woman. Regards, Martin
t-and-f: Weekly roundup
Ed: Here is the weekly roundup TOP TENS BOYSGIRLS 1. Mainland1. Hopewell Valley 2. Christian Brothers 2. Toms River East 3. Toms River North 3. Moorestown 4. Old Breidge 4. Shawnee 5. Huntedon Central 5. Jackson 6. Toms River North 6, North Hunterdon 7. Cherokee 7, Voorhees 8. Cinnaminson 8. Middletown South 9. Red Bank 9. Southern Regional 10. Ridgewood10. Red Bank Action gets under way Nov. 9 in the 64th annual state cross-country championships with one new site for the sectionals, inevitably in South Jersey at Delsea High School. The group and all-group meets will, as usual, be at Holmdel County Park on Nov. 16 and 23, respectively. So lets take a look at what may happen: BOYS GROUP IV Defending Old Bridge is going to have its hands full this time with Toms River North and Hunterdon Central, the latter in both sectional and group meets. The Knights balanced lineup will likely have to come from behind after each of its rivals puts three runners over the line. The other sectional winners seem apparent: TR North in South Jersey over defending Cherokee, West Orange for the first time in North Jersey 2 and West Milford in North Jersey 1. And this group could get five places in the AG meet with Cherokee and West Orange joining the top three as wild cards. Individually, Peter Hess of Toms River North and Keith Krieger of Cherokee, who have not met this season, seem the class of a strong field, but the question mark is Mohamed Khadraoui of Paterson Kennedy who has not run out of Garret Mtn all fall. The other sectional favorites are Dave Alfano of West Orange in NJ 2 and Chris Pannone of Hunterdon Central in CJ. GROUP III Mainland has this one to itself, with Red Bank and Cranford the other probable qualifiers and also sectional favorites in CJ and NJ 2. River Dell should continue its season-long winning ways in NJ 1. The individual field is dominated by SJ, with Greg Hughes of Maianland, Eddie Baynes of TR South and John Richardson of Ocean City, but they could be trumped at Holmdel by home-standing Robbie Dennis of Red Bank who will be running his 5th major race there this season. The NJ favorites, soph James LaGreca of Demarest in 1 and Ed Clinton of Cranford in 2, do not figure. GROUP II Strictly a SJ affair with defending Haddonfield and Cinnaminson well ahead of the other sectional favorites: Indian Hills in NJ 1, Hanover Park in NJ 2 and Matawan in CJ. Its the same individually, with defending Chris Platt of Haddon-field and Jon Anderson of Cinnaminson having the edge on the other putative sectional winners: Matt Klypka of Indian Hills, Shawn Shokry of Hanover Park and soph Thomas Walsh of Matawan. GROUP I Defending Shore may have a lot of trouble with Maple Shade in this one. Neither one should have any trouble on the sectional level and the other local favorites, Palisades Park in NJ 1 and New Prov-idence in NJ 2 are not in the same league. Marc Altenau of Shore should defend his group title, with his main competition coming from the Three Amigos of NJ 1: Steve Begley of Cresskill, Sean Emmerling of Palisades Park and Rafael Abreu of Leonia. Chris Voss of Woodstown heads the SJ field and Paul Theratill of New Providence looks best in NJ 2. PAROCHIAL A No one figures to bother Christian Brothers here and Delbarton may have a lock on the second spot with the other contenders---St. John Vianney, Red Bank Catholic, Don Bosco and Paul VI---lacking its balance. The individual race here is wide open, led by Will Melofchik and Pat Ryan of CBA, Morris County champ Paul Rosa of Delbarton, Bergen County champ Peter Gerboth of Don Bosco and his teammate, Sean Swith, Conrad Laskowski and Matt Piccarello of Red Bank catholic and Camden County champ Andrew Vernon of Paul VI. PAROCHIAL B Pope John is the solid favorite here, with the other two all-group spots up for grabs among Bishop Eustace, Oratory and Montclair-Kimberley Academy Individually, Oskar Nordenbring of MKA goes for his third in a row with Justin Scheid of Pope John the only one in his way. Both are juniors and, next year, could give this oft-scorned group a 1-2 finish in the AG meet. GIRLS GROUP IV South Jersey has three of the four top teams here: Toms River East, Shawnee and Jackson, while Central Jersey contributes defender Old Bridge, still hoping for some assistance from 2001 leader Mara McInerney. Westfield and Ridgewood should win the North Jersey sections, but probably wont run fast enough to gain the other wild card slot. Two freshmen shoul
t-and-f: Marathon musings
Netters: A couple of comments on recent marathon postings There was a story in the Star-Ledger on Mike Mykytok's "chip" problem. Mike is a native of Bound Brook and currently teaches and coaches at Bergen Tech in Hackensack. His is a comeback story all its own, for he had some kind of heart problem at New York a few years ago. The death of that woman in the Marine Corps marathon is sad, but, of course, not unprecedented. I seem to recall one race (mnot sure it was a marathon) which claimed two lives some years ago. Ironic that Eamonn Coghlan and Dr. Thomas Wessinghage should have finished so relatively close at new York. It recalls the Helsinkie 5K World championship race when Eamonn pet peeking back to see where Wessinghage was, fearing his kick. Of course, the good doctor was experiencing an off day and when Eamonn hit the "Villanova takeoff spot" (300 meters to go, he just sailed to victory. Ed Grant
t-and-f: 2002 "Final" U.S. lists
Now up on the T&FN site are "final" U.S. lists for 2002. But just because these lists are final, doesn't mean they are 100% accurate. Please send any and all corrections/amendments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enjoy! Dan Lilot Statistician Track & Field News
RE: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago and was still breast feeding. She had undertaken a 30 week training program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth). It appears that she suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses of nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think the message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such an arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. Richard McCann Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:52:27 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: t-and-f: Fwd: Lady marathoner dies Obeying all but the last request... - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm not a subscriber to the T&F chatlist but I examine its archive > weekly and read messages with interesting subject lines. The subject > does not always reflect the actual message content, and the archive > omits some list posts, so forgive me if the following has already > appeared. > > At the Marine Corps Marathon on 27 Oct 2002 in Washington (D.C.) a > female competitor stopped at about 21 miles to seek medical help and was > taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital. She died two days later, > according to the Washington Post -- which identified her as Hilary > Bellamy, age 35. > > While doing some minor volunteer service at this marathon, I saw > ambulances heading toward the 21-mile mark but I did not then know how > serious the incident was. Because T&F list subscribers have in the past > discussed other deaths in athletics (e.g. pole vault) they may > appreciate your sharing this news item. There is no need to credit or > mention me as a source. > > James Fields
Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
Well, I think it may depend on the woman and the event. Seriously, Debbie Grant Marshall resumed rigorous training fairly immediately after the birth of her second child . Likewise, so did Merideth Valmon and Sonia O'Sullivan. In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:20:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago > >and was still breast feeding. She had undertaken a 30 week training >program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth). It appears that she >suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses >of >nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think >the >message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such >an >arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still > >nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. > >Richard McCann
Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
I tend to agree - I imagine there have been elite women who have performed close to a world class level within a year of giving birth. I know several women who have run very hard marathons within 6-10 months after giving birth, although I'm not 100% sure if they were actually still breastfeeding when they ran the marathon. I suspect it has a lot more to do with the individual involved, including weight, general health, and how fast the runner is. When the topic of hypernutremia came up several months ago, I noted that by and large it seems to be very slow people who have major health problems in marathons because of this. That may not be the case with this particular woman, but once you get slower than 3:30-4:00, the marathon becomes an ultra and needs a completely different approach. All that said, it is of course a tragedy to see someone involved in our sport meet with such a disaster. And based on what little I know of the subject, all indications are that one must be cautious coming back from pregnancy. I will soon learn more about this first-hand, as my wife is expecting our first child in May and expecting to run the Olympic Trials marathon the following April! - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies > Well, I think it may depend on the woman and the event. Seriously, Debbie > Grant Marshall resumed rigorous training fairly immediately after the birth > of her second child . Likewise, so did Merideth Valmon and Sonia O'Sullivan. > > > In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:20:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago > > > >and was still breast feeding. She had undertaken a 30 week training > >program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth). It appears that she > >suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses > >of > >nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think > >the > >message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such > >an > >arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still > > > >nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. > > > >Richard McCann >
t-and-f: Canisius to drop I-AA football, tennis, track and rifle
BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Citing competitive and economic concerns, Canisius College announced Thursday that Division I-AA football is among the seven varsity sports the school will eliminate at the end of the current academic year. Also being cut are men's and women's indoor and outdoor track, men's and women's tennis and men's and women's rifle. Men's swimming will be added at the start of the 2003-04 season. That will leave Canisius with 16 Division I sports, including basketball, hockey and lacrosse. http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2002/1031/1453993.html
Re: t-and-f: 2002 "Final" U.S. lists
Oh yeah, the URL is: www.trackandfieldnews.com
Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
I know for a fact that Michelle Rohl walked a 20k at the U.S. Championships this year less than 3 months after giving birth to her fourth child and that she was breast feeding at the time. Ed and Dana Parrot wrote: > I tend to agree - I imagine there have been elite women who have performed > close to a world class level within a year of giving birth. I know several > women who have run very hard marathons within 6-10 months after giving > birth, although I'm not 100% sure if they were actually still breastfeeding > when they ran the marathon. > > I suspect it has a lot more to do with the individual involved, including > weight, general health, and how fast the runner is. When the topic of > hypernutremia came up several months ago, I noted that by and large it seems > to be very slow people who have major health problems in marathons because > of this. That may not be the case with this particular woman, but once you > get slower than 3:30-4:00, the marathon becomes an ultra and needs a > completely different approach. > > All that said, it is of course a tragedy to see someone involved in our > sport meet with such a disaster. And based on what little I know of the > subject, all indications are that one must be cautious coming back from > pregnancy. I will soon learn more about this first-hand, as my wife is > expecting our first child in May and expecting to run the Olympic Trials > marathon the following April! > > - Ed Parrot > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies > > > Well, I think it may depend on the woman and the event. Seriously, Debbie > > Grant Marshall resumed rigorous training fairly immediately after the > birth > > of her second child . Likewise, so did Merideth Valmon and Sonia > O'Sullivan. > > > > > > In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:20:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago > > > > > >and was still breast feeding. She had undertaken a 30 week training > > >program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth). It appears that she > > >suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses > > >of > > >nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think > > >the > > >message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such > > >an > > >arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still > > > > > >nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. > > > > > >Richard McCann > > -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice & FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com "Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated..." - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: November 6, 2002
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track & Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News & Notes Volume 12, Number 107 November 6, 2002 Tilson sets 50-kilometer records Alex Tilson set a new personal best by 10 minutes in establishing new U.S. records Saturday at the first Silicon Valley Speedster 50-K Ultra Classic at Palo Alto, California. Tilson, who organized the event himself for the purpose of setting records, finished the course in 2 hours, 51 minutes, 47 seconds. Tilsons performance betters the U.S. track record of 2:52:47 set by Barney Klecker in November 1981. Tilsons time also bettered the ratified 1982 U.S. road record of 3:00:00 by Jeff Wall. Tilson fell short of the unofficial best times ever recorded on the roads by two other U.S. runners. Those performances were by Chuck Smead, who ran 2:50:46 in March 1976 at Sacramento, California, and Don Paul, who ran 2:50:55 in New York in November 1982. Tilson also was faster than the USATF official world road best for 50 km of 2:55:45 by Shane Downes of Great Britain at Rodenbach, Germany on April 8, 1994. A 2:22 marathoner, Tilson ran on a USATF certified one-kilometer loop course repeated 50 times. New York to offer a two-borough course for Olympic Marathon The New York City Marathon course that runs through Staten Island to Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan and the Bronx, will not be used if New York is awarded the 2012 Olympic Games. Instead, a much flatter route through Brooklyn and Manhattan will be utilized. "The leadership of NYC2012 and other city officials were thinking of using our course," New York City Marathon Director Alan Steinfeld told Runners World Online, "but I persuaded them not to, because you can't have spectators on various areas of the bridges, including the Verrazano-Narrows." The proposed two-borough marathon course will involve just one bridge. The route would take athletes past a number of historic landmarks and through residential areas, where thousands would have the opportunity to see the race as it goes by. The start would be on the southeastern end of Brooklyn at Coney Island. The race would then proceed up Ocean Parkway to Prospect Park. Marathoners would pass through several brownstone neighborhoods and into downtown Brooklyn, and then onto the 116-year-old Brooklyn Bridge, the highest altitude point on the 26.2-mile course. Leaving the bridge and entering lower Manhattan, the runners would pass City Hall and enter Broadway's Canyon of Heroes. The course continues to Battery Park at Manhattan's southern tip, and then up the west side of the island through the planned Hudson River Park and up into midtown past the Empire State Building, the United Nations, and other landmarks and numerous residential areas. The Olympic marathoners would then enter Central Park. It's unclear precisely how much mileage would be in the park, but it would not include any seriously hilly sections. From there, the runners would go through Times Square and across 34th Street, and finish in the planned Olympic Stadium to be built in the West 30s. As the remaining U.S. entrant in the selection process, New York is hoping to be chosen as the host for the 2012 Games. The International Olympic Committee will announce the host city for the 2012 Olympics in 2005. Ryun wins again Former mile world record holder, 1968 Olympic silver medalist and National Track & Field Hall of Famer Jim Ryun was re-elected to the United States Congress on Tuesday. In winning his fourth congressional term from his eastern Kansas district, Ryun, a Republican, defeated Democratic challenger Dan Lykins. # # # PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE: If you would like to respond, please direct your e-mail to the "Contact" person listed at the top of the text of this message. To be removed from this mailing list or to notify us of a change in your e-mail address, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
My statement was intended for a more general application. Yes, elite athletes may be an exception. However, none of the women you mentioned are marathoners, which has unique demands. RMc At 04:24 PM 11/6/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think it may depend on the woman and the event. Seriously, Debbie Grant Marshall resumed rigorous training fairly immediately after the birth of her second child . Likewise, so did Merideth Valmon and Sonia O'Sullivan. In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:20:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago > >and was still breast feeding. She had undertaken a 30 week training >program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth). It appears that she >suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses >of >nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think >the >message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such >an >arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still > >nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. > >Richard McCann
Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
But she did do this race at 1:00/mile slower than her normal pace, finishing almost 12 minutes back from where she did the year before. She also has become an "expert" at this, being her fourth time. I'm sure she could write a book on this process. Hopefully it would be more well received than Entine's garbage ;'> MJR Wayne wrote: I know for a fact that Michelle Rohl walked a 20k at the U.S. Championships this year less than 3 months after giving birth to her fourth child and that she was breast feeding at the time.
RE: t-and-f: Americans at NY
He ran for Bound Brook HS ('89) in New Jersey. He was one of a great NJ HS
trio that year, and All-American at Florida, I believe.
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[mailto:owner-t-and-f@;lists.uoregon.edu]On Behalf Of Post, Marty
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:07 AM
To: 'Martin J. Dixon'; Track & Field List
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Mike Mykytok claimed after the race that he had a problem with his chip and
it fell off or something. The New York Road Runners have completed their
review and he has been added to the official results in 31st place in
2:26:53.
Don't know exactly where Mike was born, but certainly was somewhere within
the USA.
-Original Message-
From: Martin J. Dixon [mailto:mjdixon@;millards.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Track & Field List
Subject: t-and-f: Americans at NY
A reasonably funny post to letsrun:
First U.S.-Born Finisher in NYC Marathon -- Guess Who?
Scroll down.
Marla Runyan, a 33-year-old blind woman.
Regards,
Martin
t-and-f: Shot putters article
Throwers- Check out Jeff Everson's Planet Muscle & Nutrition Magazine, Dec edition, has a really extensive areticle on the US Shot Putters and the history of the event. It has many classic pics as well. You might be able to get it at www.planetmuscle.com too. MJR
t-and-f: A mis-send
Netters: My apologies for mis-sending my preview of the NJ CC meet which was intended for someone else. Hope a few Jerseyans on the list got something out of it. With good weather predicted for this Saturday, I have hopes that the Trotters may go all out at Holmdel and try to join Michelle Rowen, Footlocker champ Janet Smith and Christi Constantin in the exclusive sub-18:00 club there. You can never tell what the next two weekends will bring, weatherwise. Ed Grant
Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies
> A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago > and was still breast feeding. She had undertaken a 30 week training > program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth). It appears that she > suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses of > nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think the > message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such an > arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still > nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. While this may be true as a general statement, I've known at least three women who have run quite well within a year of giving birth while breast feeding. I don't think it the best idea, but I don't think it is totally irresponsible either. It depends a great deal on the individual and their knowledge of their body and their training experience. bd -- Benji Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
