t-and-f: Brain Pope, 41ish, runs AR record 3K
Greetings, all Brian Pope, 41, smashed Tony Young's M40 American record in the 3,000-meter run Saturday (June 5, 2004) in Boston, clocking 8:16.87 -- almost seven seconds under Young's listed AR of 8:23.78, set in 2003. The world M40 record remains the otherworldly 8:05.08 by Finnish Olympian Martti Vainio back in 1991. Rich Marion provides this eye-witness account: I had to pleasure to witness one of the best displays of disciplined running that I've seen in awhile. The venue: Boston High Performance Meets. This is the same meet that saw three women last week dip under the Olympic qualifying standards with Marla Runyan leading the charge in 14:59.20. But this week it was a master that stole the show. Running in the elite section of the men's 3000m race, Brian was running against some very talented, much younger runners (some less than half his age). After the first 800m, Brian was near the back of the pack some fifty meters behind a pack of younger runners. With the wind in his face on the backstretch, the only chance he had at running the record was to catch the pack ahead of him. This wasn't going to be an easy task considering that they were drafting off one another while he was leading a much smaller pack fifty meters back. He passed the 800m mark in 2:14.29. He maintained his pace for the next 800 meters, passing 1200m in 3:21.83 and 1600m in 4:29.02. The record was within reach but it would mean running his second mile about a second faster than the first. He must have heard my thoughts or thinking the same thing because the next 400m was covered in 66.61 and now the gap was only 20 meters to the pack. A 65.64 sixth lap put him at 6:41.27 and in contact with the pack. Over the next lap, he passed seven runners to move into third. The seventh lap, an amazing 63.87. With 200m to go at 7:45.14, the record was in serious jeopardy. He sprinted down the final stretch finishing a mere 0.07 seconds out of second with a new pending American record of 8:16.94. His record run is as follows: 67.03 67.03 67.26 2:14.29 67.54 3:21.83 67.19 4:29.02 66.61 5:35.63 65.64 6:41.27 63.87 7:45.14 31.80 8:16.94 That's 4:26.58 per mile or an 8:53 two mile equivalent. Great job, Brian. Results: Joshua McDougal Runner X 8:08.34 Paul Ryan Reebok Boston 8:16.87 Brian Pope Unattached 8:16.94 Martin Fagan Unattached 8:19.02 Steve Meinelt Unattached 8:19.58 Adam Stuhlfaut Reebok Boston 8:20.79 Patrick Moulton Unattached 8:24.87 Jordan McDougal Runner X 8:31.92 Oscar Ponce BAA 8:33.61 Francois Menard Cirrus 8:39.92 Mark Mayall Reebok Boston 8:45.22 Mark LaRosa BAA (scratch) Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com
t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel today June 8, 2004
1,500 metres 1. Alan Webb (U.S.) 3:32.73 2. Ivan Heshko (Ukraine) 3:32.88 3. Timothy Kiptanui (Kenya) 3:33.34 Pole vault 1. Stacy Dragila (U.S.) 4.83 - world record 2. Edda Elisdottir Thorey (Iceland) 4.40 3. Monika Pyrek (Poland) 4.40 Long jump 1. Tatyna Kotova (Russia) 7.00 2. Tatyana Lebedeva (Russia) 6.91 3. Marion Jones (U.S.) 6.67 __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel today June 8, 2004
Outdoor WR. Matthew Starr wrote: 1,500 metres 1. Alan Webb (U.S.) 3:32.73 2. Ivan Heshko (Ukraine) 3:32.88 3. Timothy Kiptanui (Kenya) 3:33.34 Pole vault 1. Stacy Dragila (U.S.) 4.83 - world record 2. Edda Elisdottir Thorey (Iceland) 4.40 3. Monika Pyrek (Poland) 4.40 Long jump 1. Tatyna Kotova (Russia) 7.00 2. Tatyana Lebedeva (Russia) 6.91 3. Marion Jones (U.S.) 6.67
Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel
Earlier today, Matthew wrote that Stacy Dragila had set a new world record in today's Grand Prix meet in Ostrava. Martin corrected that to Outdoor WR. I'm wondering whether, given current IAAF categories, there was any world record at all. Certainly, Stacy's 4.83 was the best outdoor vault, ever. However, when the IAAF changed the world record rule to make THE World Record the best mark, indoor or outdoor, I think I remember that they kept the category of World Indoor Record (for instances where this mark was inferior to the outdoor record), but didn't create a new category of World Outdoor Record (for instances where this mark was inferior to the indoor record). Whether Dragila set a new World Outdoor Record today, or just a world outdoor best, might be of special interest to her, since the Grand Prix circuit offers a substantial bonus for world record performances. Maybe someone (Bob Hersh?) can set us straight on this. Cheers, at least for Stacy!! Great comeback, after being overshadowed by the Russian trio last year. Outdoor WR. Pole vault 1. Stacy Dragila (U.S.) 4.83 - world record 2. Edda Elisdottir Thorey (Iceland) 4.40 3. Monika Pyrek (Poland) 4.40 THE World Record progression since 2001, as I have it-- 4.63Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-02-02 New York 4.64Svetlana Feofanova (RUS)2001-02-11 Dortmund 4.66Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-02-17 Pocatello 4.70Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-02-17 Pocatello 4.70Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-04-27 Pocatello 4.71Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-06-09 Palo Alto 4.81Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-06-09 Palo Alto 4.82Yelena Isinbayeva (RUS) 2003-07-13 Gateshead 4.83Yelena Isinbayeva (RUS) 2004-02-15 Donetsk 4.85Svetlana Feofanova (RUS)2004-02-22 Athina 4.86Svetlana Feofanova (RUS)2004-03-06 Budapest BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m converts to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark that would be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the women's vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could appreciate. For the rest of the world, the next mile-post (meter-post?) would have to wait for 5.00m; maybe still a bit in the future.
Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel
--- Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m converts to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark that would be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the women's vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could appreciate. For the rest of the world, the next mile-post (meter-post?) would have to wait for 5.00m; maybe still a bit in the future. I can't do the calculation in my head; but this can't be right. A 0.03 meter difference in height is probably around 1 inch, not 1 foot. Can someone enlighten? = Dave Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel
Earlier today, I wrote: BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m converts to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark that would be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the women's vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could appreciate Martin and Dave were quick to catch my error. 4.83m does, indeed, convert to 15'10, not 14'10. Sorry 'bout that. After nearly 40 years in Canada, this ex-Kansan still has problems with that metric stuff. You can take the boy out of the farm, but you can't take the farm out of the boy. Cheers, Roger
t-and-f: Dragila's National Records
My files show these as Stacy's *36* USA records, including today's world outdoor best. Incidentally, the first of these, the 3.05 meters indoors, was under her maiden name of Mikaelson. It will be noted that I'm missing the exact date and venue of this and her 3.35 indoor mark. I'd appreciate help with those. RR 3.05i 1994- ? 3.35i 1995- ? 4.131996-04-20 1 Lawrence 4.151996-06-02 en Abbotsford 4.191996-06-02 1 Abbotsford 4.201996-06-19 1 Atlanta 4.40i 1997-03-09 1 Paris 4.221997-04-12 1 Eugene 4.241997-04-20 1 Walnut 4.281997-04-25 1 Provo 4.301997-05-10 en Modesto 4.451997-05-10 1 Modesto 4.48i 1998-03-08 1 Sindelfingen 4.461999-04-19 1 Walnut 4.471999-06-06 en Uniondale 4.541999-06-06 1 Uniondale 4.601999-08-21 1 Sevilla 4.51i 2000-01-28 1 Pocatello 4.57i 2000-02-19 en Pocatello 4.61i 2000-02-19 1 Pocatello 4.62i 2000-03-03 1 Atlanta 4.622000-05-26 1 Phoenix 4.632000-07-23 1 Sacramento 4.63i 2001-02-02 1 New York 4.65i 2001-02-09 1 Pocatello 4.66i 2001-02-17 en Pocatello 4.70i 2001-02-17 1 Pocatello 4.662001-04-27 en Pocatello 4.702001-04-27 1 Pocatello 4.712001-06-09 en Palo Alto 4.812001-06-09 1 Palo Alto 4.71i 2003-02-01 1 Boston 4.72i 2003-02-07 1 New York 4.78i 2003-03-02 1 Boston 4.81i 2004-03-06 2 Budapest 4.832004-06-08 1 Ostrava
t-and-f: Emmons on comebacks/Kingdom reacts to WR
Greetings, all Check out: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/8867568.htm?1c Mark Emmons talked to Al Joyner, Roger Kingdom and Mike Powell -- among others -- regarding the spate of ex-Olympians making elite comebacks. But our old masters friend Dwight Stones sounds a discordant note: ``They're deluding themselves,'' said Dwight Stones, a former high-jump world-record holder who is now a TV commentator. ``I'm hopeful that they have something else in their lives that fills the void that's inevitably left by the exit of your athletic career. It's foolishness.'' . . . . Stones, a two-time Olympic bronze medalist, said the older athletes are kidding themselves if they believe they can compete with today's kids. He speaks from experience. In 1988, at 34, he qualified for the U.S. trials at the last minute. But he did poorly once he got there and regretted even trying. Aging athletes, he said, should accept that their time has passed and that they can't do the training required to compete at the highest level. ``I don't think they're thinking that some guys might get nailed for drugs and that would leave an opening for them,'' Stones said. ``I think they're bemoaning the loss of their childhood. We all suffer from the Peter Pan syndrome. That if we get out there with our shirts off and the wind at our back, we'll feel like we're 25 again. But the next day, you sure won't feel like you're 25.'' Kingdom is an example. A tweaked hamstring has hampered his training. He knows naysayers might mock his comeback attempt. But Kingdom said he was planning to compete in masters age-group meets anyway, so he figured that he might as well shoot for the trials. Also. Kingdom has replied to a note I sent him on David Ashford's recent M40 record in the 110 highs (42-inch category). Roger writes: Thanks for the updates. As you know, earlier this season, I injured my hamstring. Between the injury, work and my charitable obligations, my training has been hampered a bit. But now Im ready and will compete on June 16th and 23rd at Slippery Rock University. Even though it will be my first real competition, I will use it to build on. It was good to see so many of my old colleagues in the race with David. I'm very excited for David on his NEW WORLD MASTERS RECORD. That's quite an accomplishment. David, enjoy it now!!! If I don't break it this year, then next year it'll be mine. :) Don't you just love the competition? I truly look forward to a head-to-head match with Mr. Ashford. If you want to be considered the best, you'll have to beat the best. David, you are truly the best right now. Just remember, the hounds are chasing the fox and this hound is very hungry. May the Lord continue to bless us all to enjoy this sport in our lives that we love so much. Amen! Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com
