t-and-f: Fredericks

2002-05-28 Thread Elitnet

I recently had a visit with Frankie and his new bride. Last November, he 
married the sister of , German 800m specialst, Nico Motchebon. Cute couple.



Re: t-and-f: Jennings craps out

2002-05-30 Thread Elitnet

aw well, he sure can run his mouth, rapidly



Re: t-and-f: Re: R&R - "Track & field still a team sport"

2002-06-05 Thread Elitnet

I can tell you that athletes would love to compete at home. But, the bottom 
line is "incentive" Money. Also, your event must be contested or you have to 
go across the pond to compete.


In a message dated 6/5/2002 8:43:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I suggested May just so you can require the top athletes to compete in
>the
>top American meets. Have it in July and the athletes still disappear to
>Europe before and after nationals. The month after the national meet is
>when meets can best be marketed with the current top americans competing.
>Casual sports fans don't care if an Olympic gold medallist from 4 years
>ago is competing. Sports are all about "what have you done for me lately."
>To the casual fan, they do not care if so-and-so has won Modesto, Penn,
>etc this season. They know what US CHAMPION means. Get the current top
>athletes in the meets and there will be more interest from the casual
>fans. 



Re: t-and-f: How Is Dan O'Brien Qualified

2002-06-14 Thread Elitnet



His entry into the champs is good for ticket sales and the fact that he had a 
WR certainly makes him worthy. Give him his props.

In a message dated 6/14/2002 9:02:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I noticed on the entry list at 
http://www.usatf.org/events/2002/USAOutdoorChampionships/entry/status.asp
>that Dan O'Brien is listed as qualified. I was wondering how that is? I
>can not figure out any of the exclusions that would fit as he has not to
>my knowledge won a world champ's, oly games medal or a US championships
>anytime in the proceeding 4 years. Don't get me wrong I would love as a
>fan to see him do well, but if you are going to have rules they should
>actually be followed; or what's the point of having them?
>
>
>
>David Donley
>
>



Re: t-and-f: Clueless Carl

2002-06-15 Thread Elitnet

"to each his own"



Re: t-and-f: Webb "going pro"

2002-06-20 Thread Elitnet

Not at all a proper comparison. Tiger and Webb. We are talking whole lot more 
dollars

In a message dated 6/20/2002 8:36:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Would anybody have said to Tiger Woods that he needed to
>stay at Stanford through a full four-year ride?



Re: t-and-f: Webb "going pro"

2002-06-21 Thread Elitnet

Yep!!! that's a fair projection in the running market. It's just a totally 
different market in comparison to b-ball or other huge revenue sports.

In a message dated 6/21/2002 4:27:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>If Webb doesn't show significant improvement in the next year or two, it's
>over. He can't live off of his high school career forever and no sponsor
>is going to throw the same amount of money his way for it.
>
>



Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?

2002-06-26 Thread Elitnet

Beer is not allowed in stadium, sorry :)



Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?

2002-06-26 Thread Elitnet

trust me I tried, but was stopped in my tracks 

In a message dated 6/26/2002 8:58:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Aren't "No Beer" rules like records? Made to be broken?
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Beer is not allowed in stadium, sorry :)
>
>



Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet

Aw well!! Do you really think that athletes from other countries who live 
here are testing regularly? Or let's take Russian athletes who now live in 
Israel. Go figure. I know a case whereby a foreign athlete who has actually 
represent his particular country in Oly Games and World Champs and does not 
even use his own identity. His birth certificate is nowhere to be found in 
his war torn country. 

Yes, we Americans are a big sophisticated country but are other countries 
"really" handing over their non existent doping results. I think not!

In a message dated 6/27/2002 10:36:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>The list keeps growingnow the IAAF claims 5
>members of the US track & field team at the 2000
>Sydney Olympic Games competed, even though they tested
>postive earlier in the year. What are the odds USATF
>will even address these new allegations? I'm guessing
>slim to none. Masback, if he even addresses it, will
>probably do the same spin and deflect bblame routine
>filled with lots of legal sound and fury, and
>ultimately signifying nothing. 



Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet

Yep! several federations never test at all. It's not a fair game

In a message dated 6/27/2002 11:01:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Then why bother to test at all?
>



Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet

Thank you Ed Parrott


In a message dated 6/27/2002 11:42:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> think what he's saying is that if the IAAF and IOC spent even a fraction
>of the energy it spends on attacking the U.S. on enforcing its own rules
>inthe other 100+ countries that have no program or woefully inadequate
>
>programs, the drug problem would be better served.  Of course there is
>some blame to go around in the U.S.  Perhaps it is even a conspiracy.  But we
>get awfully sick of watching dozens of countries with far inferior programs
>get off the hook.  Many of those countries do so few tests that there is 
little
>chance of a positive and therefore little chance of adverse publicity.
>
>
>
>The IAAF should immediately suspend every nation that doesn't have
>rigorous, independently audited, out-of competition and in-competition
>testing programs.   If they do that, they might have a little currency
>to deal with the problems in the U.S.  Otherwise, it is impossible to take
>any allegations seriously, because it is clearly just political maneuvering.

>- Ed Parrot
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet

There is no way that he would do anything such as this that may hurt his 
"Market Value". The talk is just a little spice for press.

In a message dated 6/27/2002 12:16:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I certainly hope this won't devolve into another Donovan 
>Bailey-Michael Johnson affair. :-)
>



Re: t-and-f: Aussie, Aussie, Aouita?

2002-07-02 Thread Elitnet

even faster...12.40

In a message dated 7/2/2002 10:43:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>
>
>P.S. Gail Devers' 13.40 at Lausanne was a world masters (35-and-over) record,
>breaking old best of 12.47 by Russian/Swede Ludmila Engqvist at Seville
>1999. (No need for WMA paperwork on this one, I think.)



t-and-f: Toomey wins in Lapinlahti!!

2002-07-10 Thread Elitnet



Lapinlahti, Finland- Jennifer Toomey easily won the 800 meters today in a 
solo effort of 2:00.52 in her first appearance in Finland. This is a 2002 
season best performance for Jennifer.



t-and-f: Khadevis Robinson runs 1:44.41!!

2002-07-14 Thread Elitnet

Khadevis Robinson ran 1:44.41 today to win the Savo Games in Lapinlahti. It 
marks the 4th fastest time in the world for 2002 thus far. Jennifer Toomey 
also ran a personal best to win the 1500 meters. Her time was 4:11.74.



t-and-f: Results- 14 July 2002

2002-07-14 Thread Elitnet

M 800 m TULOKSET


Savo Games Lapinlahti   Lapinlahden Veto
Mondo Areena14.7.2002
Ennätykset:
A-erä
Sija Nimi   Seura   Tulos

1. Khadevis RobinsonUSA 1.44,41
2. Wilson Kirwa Lahden Ahkera   1.46,54
3. Grzegorz Krzosek Puola   1.46,56
4. Willy Rotich Kenia   1.46,64
5. Johan Cronje Etelä-Afrikka   1.47,18
6. Urmet Uusorg Eesti   1.48,03
7. Salah FadlalhSaudi-Arabia1.48,57
8. Mathias Björkqvist   Kyrkslätt Idrottsförening   1.49,51
9. Mike Miller  USA 1.49,65
10. Antti VasalaLahden Ahkera   1.52,83
Jouni Haatainen Jyväskylän Kenttäurheilijat DNF
Ozzie Mdziniso  SwazimaaDNF
Daniel Chemase  Kenia   dns
Väliajat:
www.tulospalvelu.comKLW Sport   Tulostettu: 14.7.2002 16:12




Re: t-and-f: Khadevis Robinson runs 1:44.41!!

2002-07-14 Thread Elitnet



From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Mats Åkerlind

- - -


I find this remark somewhat strange on a list dedicated to US Track and 
Field. I must go through a large number of posts "discussing" pseudo events. 
A good example being the remark on Greene's race in Rome, leading to this 
multitude of posts (The US vs. Canada vs. The IOC/IAAF vs. The World...) 
saying basically nothing to all of us not involved in the discussion - and - 
not giving any new info whatsoever, only more or less serious opinions. (No, 
I'm not going to step into that bogmire... The topic is interesting and 
important, but not in the manner the discussion is conducted on the list)


Then comes a post saying that athletes have performed well. Interesting to 
Track fans in the USA, I'd imagine. First Krummenacker x 2, now Robinson. The 
US again producing half milers that can compete at an international level. 
The response - "Wake me when it is important."


Well at least for me it's more important than 95% of the other posts on the 
list, since it provides me with real info on real Track perfrormances.


My reply: "Wake me when you discuss Track" 


On Tuesday we'll have a great Track meet here i Sweden. "DN Galan" in 
Stockholm. I look forward to that. I also lokk forward to the World Juniors 
in Kingston, to the Commonwealth Games and to the European Championships, to 
the rest of the GP, (and to the Swedish Championships in Gävle, where I stand 
as meet director...) It's summer and a lot of action - let's discuss that! 
I'll give you two topics...


a) Will the US runners get to the world top, with Krummenacker and Khadevis?


b) What has happened to the men's Hammer? The most even and unpredictable 
event in the world right now. The meet in Rome had (I think from memory) 7 
throwers within 3-4 feet! It's been almost like that the whole season! Talk 
about open spot as World No. 1...


Mats Åkerlind

Gävle, Sweden

  - Original Message - 

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:12 PM

  Subject: Re: t-and-f: Khadevis Robinson runs 1:44.41!!



  Wake me when it is important. 


  In a message dated 7/14/2002 11:47:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 




Khadevis Robinson ran 1:44.41 today to win the Savo Games in Lapinlahti. 
It 

marks the 4th fastest time in the world for 2002 thus far. Jennifer 
Toomey 

also ran a personal best to win the 1500 meters. Her time was 4:11


















Hi Karen. 

 

Can you forward this to the list. I'm on vacation. 

My e-mail is forwarded to another address. Thus I cannot answer directly to 
the 

list...

 

Mats Åkerlind

- - -

 

I find this remark somewhat strange on a list 

dedicated to US Track and Field. I must go through a large number of posts 

"discussing" pseudo events. A good example being the remark on Greene's race 
in 

Rome, leading to this multitude of posts (The US vs. Canada vs. The IOC/IAAF 
vs. 

The World...) saying basically nothing to all of us not involved in the 

discussion - and - not giving any new info whatsoever, only more or less 
serious 

opinions. (No, I'm not going to step into that bogmire... The topic is 

interesting and important, but not in the manner the discussion is conducted 
on 

the list)

 

Then comes a post saying that athletes have 

performed well. Interesting to Track fans in the USA, I'd imagine. First 

Krummenacker x 2, now Robinson. The US again producing half milers that can 

compete at an international level. The response - "Wake me when it is 

important."

 

Well at 

least for me it's more important than 95% of the other posts on the list, 
since 

it provides me with real info on real Track 

perfrormances.

 

My reply: 

"Wake me when you discuss Track" 

 

On Tuesday 

we'll have a great Track meet here i Sweden. "DN Galan" in Stockholm. I look 

forward to that. I also lokk forward to the World Juniors in Kingston, to the 

Commonwealth Games and to the European Championships, to the rest of the GP, 

(and to the Swedish Championships in Gävle, where I stand as meet 
director...) 

It's summer and a lot of action - let's discuss that! I'll give you two 

topics...

 

a) Will the 

US runners get to the world top, with Krummenacker and 

Khadevis?

 

b) What has 

happened to the men's Hammer? The most even and unpredictable event in the 
world 

right now. The meet in Rome had (I think from memory) 7 throwers within 3-4 

feet! It's been almost like that the whole season! Talk about open spot as 
World 

No. 1...

 

Mats 

Åkerlind

Gävle, 

Sweden



  - Original Message - 

  From: 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:12 

PM

  Subject: Re: t-and-f: Khadevis Robinson 

  runs 1:44.41!!

  
Wake me when it is 

  important. 

In a message dated 7/14/2002 11:47:00 AM Eastern Daylight 

  Time, 

Re: t-and-f: women's AOY

2002-08-01 Thread Elitnet

now, you know that she could if she wanted too. Andre Phillips was another 
great example of hurdling versatily.


In a message dated 8/1/2002 2:55:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>The marathon is 14 times 3000 meters. If Devers is such a great hurdler,
>why doesn't she do the 400 hurdles? That's only 4 times as far as she's used
>to and the hurdles are much lower.
>
>



t-and-f: Kim Collins test positive

2002-08-01 Thread Elitnet

anyone have the word on this??



Re: t-and-f: Kim Collins test positive- story

2002-08-01 Thread Elitnet

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020801/ap_wo_en_po/s
ports_comm_games_drugs_collins_3">Yahoo! News - Collins tests positive at 
Commonw…



Re: t-and-f: Defiant Holmes digs in

2002-08-10 Thread Elitnet

aw well, Stephanie Graf was the one talking in 2001. me thinks- they are 
picking on Holmes



Re: t-and-f: USATF Release:  Trammell leads U.S. gold rush at NACAC

2002-08-11 Thread Elitnet

Listen up ya'll!! Walt's in Texas.

In a message dated 8/11/2002 9:08:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>"Well, I wish there was some communication on this ahead of time...being
>40 miles away from San Antonio, I wouldn't have mind heading down there for
>
>the meet.  FYI, there's this new invention called the newspaper. Buy an
>ad in the sports section. Seriously, it's not hard. From what I hear, a 
handful of
>
>people will see the ad, and be interested enough to show up at the event."
>

>If you saw this release on the t-and-f list, how did you miss all of the
>others that USATF posted leading up to the meet?
>
>
>
>Walt Murphy
>
>
>



Re: t-and-f: Zurich women's 800 start list

2002-08-15 Thread Elitnet

yes,

she is indeed the pace setter just as she did in Stockholm

In a message dated 8/15/2002 4:11:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>She'll most likely be the rabbit(she's already done that this year).
>
>Walt murphy
>
>



Re: t-and-f: Wanamaker? Dave Johnson

2002-08-20 Thread Elitnet


Let me refer you to Dave Johnson. He can tell you

In a message dated 8/20/2002 8:01:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Folks,
>
>I was watching the PGA this past weekend and the winner of the
>tournament is awarded the "Wanamaker" trouphy. Same organization/person
>as the indoor mile?  If so, can someone let me know or point me to a
>link where I can read up on the background of the award.
>
>Thanks!  Joe
>



Re: t-and-f: Pan Am Games contact?

2002-08-26 Thread Elitnet

Not Rio!!! you're getting ahead of yourself. i believe 2002 is Santo Domingo?


In a message dated 8/26/2002 1:37:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Pathetic Spanish would be one thing, but how pathetic is your Portuguese?
>I might be wrong, but I
>think that's what they speak in Riiioo.
>



Re: t-and-f: The Final Two

2002-08-27 Thread Elitnet

Houston  and Bay Area
my guess


In a message dated 8/27/2002 7:55:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>USOC will halve the field of US candidates for 2012 Olympic Games host
>city

>from four to two later today.
>The Final Four are Houston, New York, San Francisco and Washington, D.C.

>Any guesses who's going to be left standing?



t-and-f: Re: Morrocco and journalism

2002-09-04 Thread Elitnet

I'm totally confused..


http://sportsserver.com/track_field/story/522930p-4148845c.html";>
SportServer.com - El Guerrouj throws support to…


http://sportsserver.com/track_field/story/518506p-4115998c.html";>
SportServer.com - El Guerrouj says Boulami has …




Re: t-and-f: Re: Morrocco and journalism

2002-09-04 Thread Elitnet

Yes it is...


In a message dated 9/4/2002 8:30:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> It's called political expediency.




Re: t-and-f: Berlin women's 1500 (possible spoiler)

2002-09-06 Thread Elitnet

Fond thoughts of Helsinki double.


In a message dated 9/6/2002 1:16:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>n '83 she was lights-out: broke 4:00 two meets in a row, ran "only" 4:00.90
>to win the WC in her next, and followed with 3:59.80 in her next.
>
>gh
>



Re: t-and-f: Rieti

2002-09-08 Thread Elitnet

those athletes are quite good, really.

In a message dated 9/8/2002 1:17:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Surely something's got to be done about Reiti. Look at those middle distance
>marks compared with the sprints. Yet, as I understand it, Rieti, being
>in the hills east of Rome, is at a slight altitude and ought to favour the
>explosive events.



Re: t-and-f: Stan Huntsman for Hall of Fame

2002-09-12 Thread Elitnet

He's a good man..



Re: t-and-f: thin sprinters

2002-09-19 Thread Elitnet

Jeff  Williams(200m) was quite a skinny guy.

In a message dated 9/19/2002 1:50:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>A cynic would probably have a ready explanation for the thinning sprinters
>syndrome.
>Regards,
>Martin



t-and-f: green and corn bread

2002-09-22 Thread Elitnet


interesting..


In a message dated 9/22/2002 10:16:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>You guys tink dat Marion is usin da same cornbread and greens recipe on
>Timmy as what whacked CJ? You guys can't prove nuttin!
>



t-and-f: SF Chronicle: Cal-Berkeley coaching article

2002-09-27 Thread Elitnet



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/09/2

7/SP227165.DTL">Cal may be changing signals in search for track…




Re: t-and-f: NWNA? (Was why the Cal job is still open)

2002-09-28 Thread Elitnet

Robyne Johnson is NOT a Black Man!!


In a message dated 9/28/2002 7:37:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>While I certainly have
>
>nothing against any of the four finalists listed in the Chronicle article,
>the fact that all
>
>are black makes me suspicious that the position is being filled under a
>No Whites Need Apply
>
>criteria.
>
>



t-and-f: Twin Cities Marathon

2002-09-29 Thread Elitnet



any updates? Last update that I have is Dan Browne going through halfway at 
1:05+




Re: t-and-f: a surprise in Kent, Ohio

2002-10-02 Thread Elitnet

glad to hear that he's well. 
did you find your dog ?



t-and-f: Men: Top 10 Chicago

2002-10-13 Thread Elitnet


The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon MAR: Top 10 Athletes

overall first_names last_name   citystate   country age sex clockfinal  
chipfinal   overdiv oversex split_15k   halfsplit_30k
1   Khalid  Khannouchi  30  M   02:05:5602:05:561   1   0:44:23 
1:02:12
2   Daniel  Njenga  JPN 26  M   02:06:1602:06:161   2   0:44:22 
1:02:11
3   Toshinari   Takaoka JPN 32  M   02:06:1602:06:162   3   0:44:23 
1:02:12
4   PaulTergat  KEN 33  M   02:06:1802:06:183   4   0:44:21 
1:02:13
5   Abdelkhader El Mouaziz  MAR 33  M   02:06:4602:06:464   5   
0:44:22 1:02:10
6   AlanCulpepper   30  M   02:09:4102:09:415   6   0:45:18 
1:03:35
7   JohnKagwe   KEN 33  M   02:10:0202:10:026   7   0:44:21 
1:02:10
8   Driss   El HimerFRA 28  M   02:11:5102:11:512   8   0:44:23 
1:02:33
9   Peter   Githuka KEN 33  M   02:12:4302:12:437   9   0:44:23 
1:02:39
10  Tobias  Hiskia  RSA 25  M   02:13:1602:13:163   10  0:44:23 
1:02:39



t-and-f: Women- Chicago Results and spits

2002-10-13 Thread Elitnet


The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon MAR: Top 10 Women Athletes

overall first_names last_name   citystate   country age sex clockfinal  
chipfinal   overdiv oversex split_15k   halfsplit_30k
22  Paula   Radcliffe   GBR 28  F   02:17:1802:17:181   1   0:49:06 
1:08:43
28  Catherine   Ndereba KEN 30  F   02:19:2602:19:261   2   0:49:07 
1:08:47
35  YokoShibui  JPN 23  F   02:21:2202:21:221   3   0:49:07 
1:09:00
37  SvetlanaZakharova   RUS 32  F   02:21:3102:21:312   4   
0:50:38 1:10:50
54  Madina  Biktagirova Russian Federa  38  F   02:25:2002:25:201   5   
0:50:39 1:11:00
65  Deena   Drossin 29  F   02:26:5302:26:532   6   0:50:38 1:10:51
76  Kayoko  Obata   JPN 31  F   02:28:1502:28:153   7   0:50:38 
1:11:00
106 NutaOlary   ROM 32  F   02:31:3702:31:374   8   0:50:38 
1:10:49
138 Masako  Chiba   JPN 26  F   02:34:3602:34:363   9   0:49:37 
1:10:51
154 Jeanne  Hennessy24  F   02:35:5302:35:532   10  0:53:10 
1:14:31



Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies

2002-11-06 Thread Elitnet
Well, I think it may depend on the woman and the event. Seriously, Debbie 
Grant Marshall resumed rigorous training fairly immediately after the birth 
of her second child . Likewise, so did Merideth Valmon and Sonia O'Sullivan.


In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:20:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>A member of our club knew this woman.  She had given birth 10 months ago
>
>and was still breast feeding.  She had undertaken a 30 week training 
>program (starting 10 weeks after giving birth).  It appears that she 
>suffered from severe sodium imbalance possibly created by the stresses
>of 
>nursing. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem).  I think
>the 
>message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such
>an 
>arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still
>
>nursing, which is particularly physically stressful.
>
>Richard McCann



Re: t-and-f: Ki, Gallagher

2002-11-20 Thread Elitnet
Thank you for saying that. She and Bart were dear friends and does not 
deserve that.


In a message dated 11/20/2002 9:09:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Christ, Ed, if her death is "indeed a tragedy" then don't sully her memory
>by injecting shit like this into it. I think it's safe to say that there's
>not an elite athlete on the planet in the last 20 years who hasn't had
>a
>coach/trainer/teammate who wasn't "exposed" to steroids in one way or
>another. Leave it alone.
>
>gh
>
>
>
>--



Re: t-and-f: Promise Mose pleads guilty to manslaughter

2002-11-26 Thread Elitnet
Luckily for her. She could have actually been the one killed. It was all 
unfortunate


In a message dated 11/26/2002 6:12:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Y ask:

>Former SDSU sprinter Promise Mose faces a three-year ban from regular living.
>Could have been worse.
>
>



Re: t-and-f: M. Jones - shorts or bun huggers

2002-12-04 Thread Elitnet
because she had a religious upbringing  that does not support appearing in 
bun huggers. There are a few women who do not care to wear them.

In a message dated 12/4/2002 4:15:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I've never seen Marion Jones race in regular shorts or "bun huggers", 
>has anyone else???Maybe GH has some old pictures
>
>in the



Re: t-and-f: Guevara

2002-12-05 Thread Elitnet
Svetlana had the opportunity on a regular basis to go head to head with the 
Oly Champ, World Champ and WR holder and beat her. The absence of Freeman, 
Merry was the difference that I saw.

In a message dated 12/5/2002 7:36:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>'m not convinced there's any quality difference in the results.  



t-and-f: WPV

2002-12-05 Thread Elitnet

Well, look for 2003 to show further action with the German contingent 
stepping it up. Perhaps, a changing of the guard?

In a message dated 12/5/2002 11:37:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>She went 9 and 0 versus Dragila.  Dragila might as well have taken the
>year off like Merry and Freeman.  She may have been in the meets but she
>was hardly near her best.



Re: t-and-f: Deena doubts move by MJ

2002-12-20 Thread Elitnet
Phaff and Bailey

In a message dated 12/20/2002 6:44:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>What do American track coaches think about two Americans having to go to
>Canada for needed expertise? 
>
>
>
>Not that Canada doesn't have coaching talent, but it IS a little far from
>North Carolina. Wish someone would talk to Tellez, John Smith, etc. (or
>Randy Huntington for the jumps).
>
>



Re: t-and-f: AOY - French version

2003-01-02 Thread Elitnet
Not exactly true.. Le Equipe moved a crew over after Mo set the 100m record. 
They love our sprinters.

In a message dated 1/2/2003 9:55:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Plus the French never do like Americans of any sort to come over and win 
"their"
>
>sporting events.>
>Kurt Bray



Re: t-and-f: The best NON-olympian?

2003-01-03 Thread Elitnet
Did David Patrick ever qualify for an Olympic Team?



Re: t-and-f: Jones and Charlie sighting

2003-01-11 Thread Elitnet
My sentiments, exactly
thank you Mr. Hill

In a message dated 1/11/2003 2:28:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Thanks for the clues, Martin. We're now on a plane.
>
>Sincerely,
>The National Enquirer
>
>



t-and-f: 2003 Pole Vault Summit- Results

2003-01-18 Thread Elitnet
Elite Men   

Athlete Place   Height Made

Derek Miles   1 5.80m  (19' 1/4)  World Leader
Jeff Hartwig  2 5.70m (18'8 1/4")
Tye Harvey  3   5.70m
Toby Stevenson 45.50m
Steve Deming5   5.50m
Brad Walker 6   5.40m
Tim Mack7   5.40m
Jeremy Scott8   5.40m
Russ Buller 9   5.30m
Scott Slover10  5.30m
Nick Hysong No Height   
Brian McLaughlinNo Height   


Elite Women 

Athlete Place   Height Made

Stacy Dragila   1   4.46m  (14'7 1/2")
Carolin Hingst  2   4.36m  (14'3 1/2")
Melissa Mueller 3   4.36m
Kellie Suttle   4   4.21m
Yvonne Buschbaum5   4.21m
Amy Linnen  5   4.21m
Jillian Schwartz7   4.21m
Christina Adams 8   4.21m
Tracy O'Hara9   4.06m
Mary Sauer  9   4.06m
Lesa Kubishta   11  4.06m
Andrea Wildrick 12  4.06m
Becky Holliday  13  3.86m



Re: t-and-f: Reno pole vault

2003-01-19 Thread Elitnet
Haha!! obviously a typo. But, that may interest a certain man from Ukraine :)


In a message dated 1/19/2003 8:51:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Surprised that this hasn't caused more of a stir.  It appears that a man
>
>named Robert Arnold, no affiliation given, vaulted 6.65 meters in the third
>open class at the Pole Vault Summit.  You can see for yourselves at the
>site that TFN allows you to click on.  Ain't that something!
>
> Bill Allen
>
>
>
>



Re: t-and-f: Mo Greene gets a job

2003-01-23 Thread Elitnet
Old news, I think. Taft High??

In a message dated 1/23/2003 1:03:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>According to this morning's L.A. Times, Mo Greene has been named assistant
>track coach at a local Los Angeles high school.
>And the head coach who hired him?
>...probably nobody has heard of Quincy Watts!
>
>RT



Re: t-and-f: Mo Greene gets a job

2003-01-23 Thread Elitnet
Oh really!! They don't read the BIBLE?? :)

In a message dated 1/23/2003 2:33:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>hey're slow to catch on down there at the ole LAT: was reported in T&FN
>in
>the September issue last year.



Re: t-and-f: Diack taken to task

2003-01-29 Thread Elitnet
He is totally in the loop. Not trying to get back. "He's in the MIX"



In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:57:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Why should he?  So that he can get himself back into the sport, that's
>why. >Until people are convinced he is sincere, that he wouldn't create the 
whole
>
>sordid mess all over again if given the chance, he's not going to be 
>welcome.
>
>Kurt Bray
>
>



t-and-f: FEOFANOVA TOPS OWN WORLD INDOOR POLE VAULT MARK

2003-02-02 Thread Elitnet
    Feofanova tops own world indoor pole vault mark


GLASGOW, Scotland  - Russia's Svetlana Feofanova broke her own world indoor 
pole vault record Sunday, jumping 15 feet, 7 1/4 inches at the Norwich Union 
meet.

Feofanova surpassed her previous mark of 15-7 set last March 3 at the 
European indoor championships in Vienna, Austria.
Feofanova, 22, finished second at the last two indoor and outdoor world 
championships, but she failed to record a mark at the 2000 Olympics.
American Stacy Dragila, the Olympic champion, holds the outdoor world record 
of 15-9 1/4.  




t-and-f: New Pole Vault rules

2003-03-05 Thread Elitnet

HAMBURG, Germany (March 5, 2003 11:53 a.m. EST) - About 20 leading pole 
vaulters sent a letter to track and field's governing body to protest rule 
changes they say will make records more difficult. 

The group wants the IAAF to reconsider the changes, especially the reduction 
of pole vault pegs by nearly one-third. The pegs hold the bar, and smaller 
pegs will cause the bar to fall more easily when brushed by the vaulter. 

Jeff Hartwig of the United States and Tim Lobinger of Germany were among 
those who signed the letter. 

"The athletes have been overrun by the changes and their prospects are not 
good," Marc Osenberg, a former pole vaulter and agent of the many of the 
vaulters who signed the letter, said Wednesday. 

"On the other side, we have a good contact to IAAF and we are not seeking a 
confrontation." 




t-and-f: Mike Conley- fast sprinter

2003-03-20 Thread Elitnet
Can someone tell me how fast Mike ran 200 meters and what was his highest 
200m NCAA Champs result?

thanks


Re: t-and-f: Most Consistent Top Vaulters

2004-08-04 Thread Elitnet
6 meters was  significant in May  at Modesto.