Re: t-and-f: Stripper
This is a first. Congrats to Nad, or whoever you are. Let's out the stripper. Second, you are the first sub four minute miler to post nudity to this boring ass list. Go NAD. Screw this list. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: This list is ridiculous!
In a message dated 4/14/01 10:55:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if the readers of TF News would be interested in knowing that its editor endorses porn and its unsolicited distribution. I wonder if Mr. Hill's wife and family would be interested in knowing of his endorsement. You guys are so shortsighted that you've never even considered the possible subscriber who struggles with sexual addictions, not to mention the implications of pornography on society (particularly in the USA). RELAX!!
t-and-f: Rios
I was told by a friend that Rios has a pictorial at Playboy.com http://cyber.playboy.com Schiefer TNFmedia in now way endorses nudity. It's bad.
t-and-f: Conduct and College Athletes (Rios)
Mr. Elders, I am writing to you from TNFmedia.com, and copying the t-and-f list. In regards to your dismissal of Leilani Rios, and comment "Rios' job violates the university's code of conduct, which specifies that Titan athletes should behave respectably, not cause disturbances or use foul language, and "give everyone who sees them a positive image of Titan student- athletes." My question to you: Do you enforce this Code of Conduct based upon behavior alone, or is it only enforced in cases where this behavior is publicized? This is a very powerful question, and I urge you to give it some thought- Do you kick off the male athletes for using foul language at practice? Or are you sending the message that NONE of your athletes uses foul language? Being a former collegiate runner myself, I would have to say that there might just be one male athlete on your team who might have violated this "Code of Conduct" in your presence, and not dismissed.? In other words, are you telling us that no student athlete of yours has ever used foul language in your presence? And if they have, did you dismiss them from the team? Let's take a look at this-Is it really about conduct? Or is it about your and your facilities interpretation and selective enforcement of this "code". Good luck, and let's make sure that we never hear a CS Fullerton athlete use foul language at a meet. It might be cause for dismissal. John Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: Conduct and College Athletes (Rios)
Darrell, My expectation is that my message has as much meaning as your most intelligent post in the past three years. In other words, no. However, I was simply responding to the quote from Elders himself. "Rios' job violates the university's code of conduct, which specifies that Titan athletes should behave respectably, not cause disturbances or use foul language, and "give everyone who sees them a positive image of Titan student- athletes." Read it over, re read my post, and it should make sense. If not, I'm sorry. Schiefer PS. If you are interested in meaningful messages, you might want to find another list.
Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA thoughts
Dan, You have a great point. The weather was always a barrier for us in Utah as well. Keep in mind, however, that since I've been living in Southern California, I can't think of more than about 4 or 5 guys that were worth anything at all. Keep in mind that this is on the collegiate level. Coming from Utah, and Arkansas, I personally feel it's a discrace that So. Cal colleges can't produce more distance talent than they do. It's pretty bad really. Any thoughts.? Schiefer
t-and-f: Dave Johnson
Dave, it's Schiefer here. Will you email me, I have a question for you. Thanks, Schiefer
t-and-f: John McDonnell
In case some of you didn't hear, John McDonnell suffered a mild heart attack recently. I haven't heard a mention of it on this list (except for USATF release). For those of you who want to express your well wishes to Coach McDonnell, you can send them care of: John McDonnell C/0 Mildred Bone Track Office Bud Walton Arena University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701 Thanks, John Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: TNF does it again
I've been reading about all of this "TNF Does it again". Remember people, Track and Field News is actually "TFN". TNF is another story altogether. Schiefer http://www.tnfmedia.com
t-and-f: my kind of posts
"Morcelli has four fastest 1500-metre times ever. And all those times are at 1500 metres." (David Coleman) There goes Juantorena down the back straight, opening his legs and showing his class" (David Coleman at The Montreal Olympics)
t-and-f: TNFmedia.com Poll
Everyone. Take a look at the TNFmedia.com poll on the front page. According to our poll, people had Arkansas not picked to win. Check it out. http://tnfmedia.com
Re: t-and-f: NCAA comment
In a message dated 11/21/00 7:44:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, my usual comment here is that when the formula includes finding the best JUCO transfer in the country to lead your team, that's not particularly impressive. However, when you have a local-boy 4:16/9:30 HS runner improving to finish 24th at NCAA's, you're doing something right. Ok, sure I'll give you that. However, what excuse does Stanford have.? They get the best talent year in and year out. Compare the talent that Stanford had this year, with that of Arkansas'. There's no contest. Stanford would win every time. It's not quite fair to discount McDonnell's team's performance. They didn't win on talent, they won on coaching. PERIOD. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: oregon men's regular-season record
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe that we are talking about the "worst" of the best here. Nothing against those who want to run in the NCAA meet, but let's be honest. Does it really matter? Like I said, I'm not trying to be a dick, but no one cares about who places 23rd at the NCAA meet. Sorry, Schiefer
t-and-f: Writers needed $$$
Guys and Gals. Anyone interested in writing for tnfmedia.com should contact me ASAP. Here's what I need: An article, or series of articles covering favorites, team or individual of this upcoming NCAA Championship meet. I know this is a short lead time, but I'm paying. I also would like someone to cover the NCAA meet, and send me the story that afternoon. I would like to put up 2-3 articles. I'm paying $50 bucks an article, and I'll up that if you want to do a series of articles. Plus, if you are good, I'll bump up the money even more. Please contact me at this email address if you are interested. TNFmedia.com is moving up! Schiefer
t-and-f: Embarrasment, etc
I think that officially, TNFmedia.com is about 100 times more relevant, and interesting to track and field readers than this list. Have you guys ever really looked at some of the garbage posted to this list? Schiefer
t-and-f: Chicago Top 50
The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon: Top 50 Runners overall first_names last_name city state country age sex clockfinal chipfinal overdiv oversex split_15k half split_30k 1 Khalid Khannouchi Usa 28 M 02:07:01 02:07:01 1 1 0:44:49 1:03:05 1:30:42 2 Josephat Kiprono Kenya 26 M 02:07:29 02:07:29 2 2 0:44:49 1:03:02 1:30:41 3 Moses Tanui Kenya 35 M 02:07:47 02:07:47 1 3 0:45:34 1:03:55 1:30:43 4 Peter Githuka Kenya 31 M 02:08:02 02:08:02 1 4 0:44:49 1:03:05 1:30:43 5 Fred Kiprop Kenya 26 M 02:08:23 02:08:23 3 5 0:44:49 1:03:01 1:30:42 6 William Kiplagat Kenya 28 M 02:11:57 02:11:57 4 6 0:44:49 1:03:05 1:30:45 7 David Morris United States 30 M 02:12:00 02:12:00 2 7 0:45:49 1:04:40 1:32:28 8 Eric Mack United States 26 M 02:12:42 02:12:42 5 8 0:46:51 1:05:38 1:33:32 9 Yi Young Kim Korea, Dem. Pe 27 M 02:13:02 02:13:02 6 9 0:44:48 1:03:05 1:31:51 10 Josh Cox CA United States 25 M 02:13:55 02:13:55 7 10 0:47:36 1:06:50 1:35:18 11 Samuel Otieno United States 27 M 02:14:06 02:14:05 8 11 1:03:05 1:30:44 12 Laban Labannkete United States 29 M 02:14:50 02:14:49 9 12 0:45:30 1:03:55 1:30:43 13 Mark Coogan United States 34 M 02:15:10 02:15:08 3 13 0:47:38 1:06:51 1:35:19 14 Tesfaye Jifar Ethiopia 24 M 02:16:01 02:15:59 1 14 0:44:49 1:03:02 1:30:43 15 Peter De La Cerda United States 29 M 02:16:14 02:16:13 10 15 0:46:54 1:06:25 1:35:36 16 Eliud Kurgat Kenya 27 M 02:17:11 02:17:09 11 16 0:44:48 1:03:01 1:30:39 17 Takaki Morikawa Jpn 29 M 02:17:16 02:17:15 12 17 0:45:50 1:05:06 1:35:08 18 Gary Stolz United States 29 M 02:17:33 02:17:32 13 18 0:47:39 1:06:50 1:35:47 19 Keith Dowling United States 31 M 02:18:31 02:18:29 4 19 0:46:54 1:06:25 1:35:08 20 John Nada Saya Tanzania 22 M 02:19:01 02:19:00 2 20 0:44:51 1:03:57 1:33:06 21 Peter Ndirangu Kenya 29 M 02:20:31 02:20:30 14 21 0:44:49 1:03:06 1:30:45 22 John Kariuki United States 31 M 02:20:58 02:20:58 5 22 0:44:51 1:04:08 1:33:55 23 Catherine Ndereba Kenya 28 F 02:21:33 02:21:33 1 1 0:50:38 1:11:04 1:41:03 24 Jonas Larm Stockholm Sweden 27 M 02:22:25 02:22:24 15 23 0:49:47 1:10:23 1:40:50 25 Lornah Kiplagat Kenya 26 F 02:22:36 02:22:36 2 2 0:50:30 1:10:58 1:41:02 26 Darran Bilton Swanland YO United Kingdom 35 M 02:24:51 02:24:45 2 24 0:49:48 1:10:26 1:41:13 27 Kevin Taylor Cincinnati OH United States 25 M 02:25:11 02:25:08 16 25 0:50:13 1:10:45 1:41:01 28 Glenn Le Gros Saint Louis MO United States 30 M 02:26:50 02:26:27 6 26 0:51:27 1:12:37 1:43:52 29 Matt Smith Holland MI United States 26 M 02:27:07 02:27:07 17 27 0:51:42 1:12:58 1:44:20 30 Jesus Mateo Carrboro NC United States 32 M 02:27:27 02:27:25 7 28 0:51:27 1:12:37 1:44:05 31 Joseph Ngolepus United States 25 M 02:27:29 02:27:28 18 29 0:44:49 1:03:02 1:31:07 32 Jason Ryf Oshkosh WI United States 29 M 02:27:59 02:27:47 19 30 0:53:27 1:14:37 1:45:46 33 Peter Rea Marietta GA United States 31 M 02:28:10 02:27:59 8 31 0:50:54 1:11:25 1:42:38 34 Gustavo Varela Dallas TX United States 29 M 02:28:33 02:28:31 20 32 0:49:52 1:10:52 1:42:27 35 Paul Kodama Bothell WA United States 30 M 02:28:38 02:28:35 9 33 0:52:36 1:14:08 1:45:50 36 Jean-Michel Fauritte Menton France 28 M 02:28:58 02:28:56 21 34 0:52:52 1:14:20 1:46:04 37 Eric Domerego Menton France 27 M 02:28:58 02:28:58 22 35 0:52:52 1:14:20 1:46:04 38 Irina Timofeyeva Russia 30 F 02:29:13 02:29:13 1 3 0:51:42 1:12:56 1:44:20 39 Achour Saad L'hay Les Roses France 26 M 02:29:17 02:29:13 23 36 0:52:31 1:13:51 1:45:22 40 Thomas Teger Marlborough MA United States 33 M 02:29:19 02:29:17 10 37 0:51:42 1:12:56 1:44:22 41 Zachary Yannone Albany NY United States 26 M 02:29:33 02:29:18 24 38 0:51:10 1:11:42 1:44:04 42 Steve Beguin West Lafayette IN United States 25 M 02:29:30 02:29:29 25 39 0:51:27 1:12:17 1:43:25 43 Scott Lowe Canton GA United States 28 M 02:30:54 02:30:37 26 40 0:51:43 1:12:57 1:45:06 44 Chris Broaddus Albuquerque NM United States 26 M 02:30:47 02:30:44 27 41 0:54:34 1:16:10 1:47:24 45 Jason Effmann Chicago IL United States 24 M 02:30:49 02:30:45 3 42 0:52:52 1:14:20 1:46:05 46 Larry Jackson Boulder CO United States 30 M 02:31:26 02:31:24 11 43 0:52:40 1:14:07 1:45:37 47 Joe Golden Indianapolis IN United States 32 M 02:31:32 02:31:30 12 44 0:53:28 1:14:38 1:46:05 48 Joachim Fruebis Encinitas CA United States 37 M 02:31:47 02:31:45 3 45 0:53:33 1:16:29 1:53:41 49 Elana Meyer South Africa 34 F 02:31:59 02:31:59 2 4 0:51:22 1:12:37 1:44:34 50 Kayoko Obata United States 29 F 02:31:59 02:31:59 3
t-and-f: New vendor
Hey guys. Just thought I'd let you all know about a cool new shoe vendor. It's customatix. http://www.customatix.com This is a must see. You can order customized shoes. I wore a pair todayThey are great. Try to support the "little guy" here. Schiefer PS. I have nothing to gain by mentioning this site.
Re: t-and-f: Liquori's comments
My apologies to Marty then. Schiefer
t-and-f: Liquori's comments
i loved Marty L's comments with about 250m to go in the Men's 1500m. "It's going to come down to the last 100 meters.'" Oh, come on Marty. How would you have known that unless you had already seen the tape." Make it a little less contrived. Your friend. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: Masback calls out the Black Helicopters
In a message dated 9/29/00 7:40:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: USATF does not have any business doing drug testing, period. Giving it to WADA may not be the answer, but if it gets the U.S. off the bad publicity hook, who cares. At least this gets the dialogue going in that direction. The drug/image problem is out of control and it's time for USATF to stop being blamed for problems that they are only partially responsible for. Thank the mother of jesus someone has the sense to say the above. USATF, has, or never will have any business doing drug testing. I always liken it to this. Say you are a supervisor in a company. You are in charge of both management of your best employees, and the drug testing protocol. Now, imagine that your best employee tests positiveKeep in mind, that this employee is the one that makes you profitable, and makes you look good. What do you do? Announce the positive, and lose your job? Announce the positive, and lose millions of dollars for NBC? All of you higher ups out there think that I'm all about saying that everyone's on drugs. What you fail to realize is that I know who's doing drugs. I hear what's going on. Don't get caught up in the protocols that you think are blessed by the bible. I'm not here to be a negative impact in track and field. I am here, however, to be a realistic influence. I'm sick and tired of all of you old guys sitting back and saying that everyone is clean SIMPLY because they never tested positive. Don't blame me for the system failures. Oh, I left the Olympics because of an injury? You mean to tell me that someone is going to go home and miss the whole Olympic experience because of an injury.? BULLSH** Do you mean to tell me that a fan who sprained his ankle would forfeit his tickets to watch one of the greatest sporting events ever imagined.. No way. All of you guys who get mad at me, Malmo, and Craddock. Please take a trip to the reality well. You can believe that your sport is clean, but we know better. Quit making us the bad guys, and listen for one god damned minute. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: Masback calls out the Black Helicopters
In a message dated 9/29/00 7:40:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a difference between criminal and civil issues, as well as the fact that the police department is specifically tasked to do policing while it is really a secondary role for USATF. Which might explain why it doesn't get done at all. Schiefer
t-and-f: News Article
http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/news/2000/09/28/FFXIT2IJNDC.html Enjoy. Schiefer http://tnfmedia.rivals.com
t-and-f: Catlin?
Don H. Catlin is: The Assoc Prof/Dir Mol Medl Pharmacol-Olympic Lab At UCLA. Schiefer
t-and-f: Fwd: Yahoo! Sports: Olympics - C.J. Hunter scandal is biggest example of when too much is too much
If you guys haven't read this yet, you are missing out. Schiefer http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/columns/psx/2927/cjhunterscandalisbig.html GoingForTheGold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a news article Personal message: this is great. Yahoo! Sports: Olympics - C.J. Hunter scandal is biggest example of when too much is too much http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/columns/psx/2927/cjhunterscandalisbig.html Yahoo! Sports - http://sports.yahoo.com/
t-and-f: Tainted Iron Supplement
So CJ is blaming this tainted Iron Supplement. Couple of questions: 1. How would he know that it is now tainted? Did they test the supplement.? 2. Why would someone taint an iron supplement. I'm sure that steriods are expensive enough that people don't really want to be just giving it away. 3. Hunter then explains that Marion didn't take any of the Iron Supplement.-Well, hell, according to his logic, it wouldn't matter if she did. It was tainted. It just smells. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: 5 US track athletes tested positive at Seoul Olympics - de Merode
In a message dated 9/24/00 6:50:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "De Merode also told reporters that five American athletes had competed at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul despite failing dope tests before the Games. He said they had failed out-of-competition tests in the United States but that American officials had never passed on the results to the IOC. That's certainly not the first time that we've heard this one. However, they all might as well have hurt their knees. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: CJ Hunter tests positive
I'm still waiting for a USATF press release on Hunter. I would have thought that the folks at USATF would have spoken by now.? To quote Ted Knight in Caddyshack..."Well, we're waiting??" Schiefer
t-and-f: USATF statement on Hunter
Has USATF issued a release on the allegations against CJ Hunter? I haven't seen one. What's going on out there? Thanks, Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: Be quiet Carol!
Jim, But your whole point is again a reinforcement as to why Carol shouldn't even be in Sydney. I remember when Dwight Stones said. "Carol does a great job, and the NBC exect agree." By Dwight's own admission, the execs don't really care about the Track and Field coverage on NBC. Carol doesn't get it, and no one has the balls to tell her to shut up. It amazes me that someone can hold a job no matter how inept. Carol, like I've said before, thank GOD for genetics, or there's no telling what you would be doing right now. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: Journalist Marion Jones and Olympic rules
I really would like to know the status of this "Rule" Is it really a rule, and are "they" enforcing it? From the moment I read this "rule" I figured it was bogus. If it's not bogus, then would like to make sure that the IOC is investigating ALL Olympic Journalistic exploits. Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: on Regina Jacobs...
In a message dated 9/16/00 6:15:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also if any of you think that it is just this drug obsessed list talking about Regina you are mistaken - you should hear what they are saying in the village. AMEN,!!! John Schiefer
t-and-f: Goucher's age
Taken from the USATF release: "Birthday Boy Adam Goucher, who will compete at 10,000 meters in Sydney, celebrates his 28th birthday on Friday. He will celebrate by marching in the Olympic Opening Ceremonies." If I recall, Goucher graduated HS in 1994. According to the above information, Goucher was nearly 22 years of age when he graduated HS? Am I missing something here? Schiefer
Re: t-and-f: Goucher's age
That would still make Culpepper 19 when he graduated high school? Schiefer
t-and-f: Jacobs.
Again, I don't want to piss on anyone's parade, but.. Jacobs wasn't scheduled to race until the 27th of September.? When did she officially withdraw from the OG? I think those of us who have had Viral infections know that they don't ALL last TWO weeks. Was she some kind of prognosticator? Did she know that this virus she has lasts longer than two weeks. Regina- Remember me when you look in the mirror each morning. John Schiefer
t-and-f: net storytelling
What if an Olympic athlete tells someone how they feel, and someone prints that on the net? Schiefer
t-and-f: Re: IOC Bans Oly athletes from any web citations
Please let me know who is in charge of this rule! I have to believe that this is a joke. If it is not, then the Olympic Games are a joke. Please clarify. Bunston, you are a smart guy, but don't BS us. Schieferh
t-and-f: Writers needed.
Schiefer here. I'm getting ready to boost up TNFmedia.com's internet presence. I need writers, both interns, and I can actually pay a little of money now. Obviously, for payment, it would have to be a pretty significant piece, or a series of pieces. For some of you younger guys who need intern work, I will be happy to take a look at your meet coverages, editorials, etc. Please contact me for more information. John Schiefer tnfmedia.com
