Re: t-and-f: AT college list 200 meters
They are probably leaving it out since it is slower than Gatlin's 19.86. Otherwise John Capel's 19.87 from 1999 would get mention. --- Kebba Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Deloach still had eligibility after Seoul. Didn't he graduate HS in 85. and then I think he had to sit out his freshman year. Aren't people leaving out Lorenzo Daniel's 19.87 as well. From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: AT college list 200 meters Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:03:58 -0400 The three fastest performers on the FAST annual's all-time college list for 200 meters - Joe DeLoach, 19.75; Ato Boldon, 19.80 and Michael Johnson, 19.85 - all ran those times after their senior year was over and college class had graduated. FAST eligibility generally is thru Sept 1 of [final] collegiate season, extended further if competing for national team at international championship. Gatlin's 19.86 a record for an athlete who still has college eligibility left - in Gatlin's case, only a soph, lots of it. Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: TF athletes in winter Olympics?
I've been told that Garret Hines, another US bobsledder, was a hurdler at Southern Illinois. And then, of course, there's Gea Johnson (heptathlete) in the women's bobsled. --- Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's at least one U.S. Winter Olympian with a track and field background. Dan Steele, who has a twin, Darrin, competed at Eastern Ill. University in the mid-1980s, is the breakman on the USA 2 two-man bobsled team. I'm not sure who is who, but one of the Steeles was A-A in the 400-hurdles and the other a decathlete. I think both eventually concentrated on the decathlon, and, obviously, other sports. I think USA 2 was in ninth place heading in to Sunday's final run. = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
t-and-f: Ban USA Track?
I came across this link on the front page of ESPN.com: http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/winter02/gen/news?id=1322628 = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
Fwd: Re: t-and-f: Famous people in TF
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oklahoma State pressbook says he lettered 1981-84. I vaguely remember his being called a triple jumper once, but couldnt' swear to it. Garth Brooks was a javelin thrower at Oklahoma State. = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: Olympic Trials/BS (whoops, I mean BCS)
Maybe Oregon as the winner of the Kenyan trials is accurate, but Illinois is more like the winner of the US trials (well, maybe not that bad). The Big Ten may have a great history, but it was certainly not one of the top two conferences this year. --- Mitchell S. Clair, Esq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like your analogy, and would like to take it a step further. Oregon is the guy who won the Kenyan trials in 2:10 and Illinois was the 2:12 winner of the ethiopian trials at altitude (being that they are from the 2 best conferences) and LSU is the surprise winner of the always tough Japanese trials. Shouldn't they all be able to run at the games? -Original Message- From: Keenan Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: t-and-f: Olympic Trials/BS (whoops, I mean BCS) yeah, that's right. I am going to talk about football. It relates to the whole Olympic Trials winner vs. time qualifier argument so it is not totally off topic. Plus, this list is hosted by the University of Oregon and I'm sure they don't care if I bash the BS (I mean BCS) for a while. If a 26 point butt kicking doesn't prove that you are a better team then what does? It is absolutely ridiculous that Nebraska is going to the Rose Bowl when they are not even the best team in their conference. No fancy computer formulas needed, Colorado beat them where it really counts, HEAD TO HEAD COMPETITION. Then Colorado beat Texas. When you think of who is playing the best right now, you have to be under the influence of some sort of illegal chemicals if you do not inlcude Colorado in the top two somewhere. This brings me to my point about the Olympic Trials. Nebraska is the guy who ran 2:09 on some parking lot course in Chicago or Europe or wherever. The Olympic Trials (Big 12 playoffs) roll around and the 2:09 guy gets beat by a few guys who know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, and know when to run (Colorado). What this really shows is who can run (play football) when it is all on the line, be it an Olympic team spot or a berth in the Big 12 Championship game. Sure, this 2:09 guy can run whatever kind of fast times he wants in off years and the cagey competitor may get beat a few times, let's say he might win 10 races and only lose 2 (perhaps because of the 2nd toughest schedule in the country), but when it comes down to it the gamer will win when it counts and the 2:09 guy will make excuses and/or rely on some messed up computer formula. = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?
I think Randy Wilson may have run faster than the 3:59.20 listed for Iowa (I read something that said 3:58.1). He's from Knoxville, Iowa. Also, Corey Ihmels name is spelled wrong on the list. --- jsully13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who ran the fastest all-time mile for each of the 50 states? Based on where each guy went to HS, but includes post-HS times. Anyone to add or corrections to the list below? Alabama: Steve Bolt -- 3:59.40 Alaska: Marcus Dunbar -- 4.00.58 Arizona: Arkansas: Brian Baker -- 3:57.40 California: Steve Scott -- 3:47.69 Colorado: Adam Goucher -- 3:54.17 Connecticut: Kevin King -- 3:58.31 Delaware: Florida: Brian Jaeger -- 3:59.47 Georgia: Hawaii: Duncan McDonald -- 3:58.4 Idaho: Illinois: Jim Spivey -- 3:49.80 Indiana: Terry Brahm -- 3:54.56 Iowa: Jerome Howe -- 3:59.20 Kansas: Jim Ryun -- 3:51.1 Kentucky: Louisiana: Shannon Lemora -- 3:57.47 Maine: Erik Nedeau -- 3:57.28 Maryland: Dave Patrick -- 3:56.8 Massachusetts: Andy Downin -- 3:56.25 Michigan: Paul McMullen -- 3:55.84 Minnesota: Steve Holman -- 3:50.40 Mississippi: Missouri: Joe Falcon -- 3:49.31 Montana: Nebraska: Nevada: New Hampshire: Matt Downin -- 4:00.52 New Jersey: Marty Liquori -- 3:52.2 New Mexico: Chuck Aragon -- 3:51.62 New York: John Gregorek -- 3:51.34 North Carolina: Tony Waldrop -- 3:53.2 North Dakota: Corey Imhals -- 3:59.70 Ohio: Tom Byers -- 3:50.83 Oklahoma: Oregon: Steve Prefontaine -- 3:54.60 Pennsylvania: Paul Vandergrift -- 3:57.88 Rhode Island: South Carolina: Terrence Herrington -- 3:53.64 South Dakota: Jeff Schemmel -- 3:58.18 Tennessee: Jay Woods -- 3:54.40 Texas: Todd Harbour -- 3:50.34 Utah: Jeremy Tolman -- 3:59.99 Vermont: Virginia: Alan Webb -- 3:53.43 Washington: John Quade -- 3:54.60 West Virginia: Wisconsin: Steve Lacy -- 3:54.70 Wyoming: = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com
RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
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Re: t-and-f: Athletics International Rankings
Uh, not quite. Don Paige at least ran the fastest 800 time in the world in 1980 (1:44.53). Not his fault he didn't get to compete in the Olympic Games. --- Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 16/1/01 16:29, Conway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what I have seen in about the last 15 years or so is that favoritism has crept into the rankings .. There are some of us old farts who remember TFN rtanking Don Paige above Ovett or Coe in the 800m in 1980! On that basis MJ could have been ranked no. 1 in the 1500 this year. Randall Northam = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....
Point of clarification in this thread... I believe the NCAA does not award All-America honors to anyone, technically. The coaches associations are the organizations handing out these awards. = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Nebraska's new indoor track
There's a hydraulic banked indoor track at NIFS in Indianapolis. Butler uses it for their meets. --- Philip Weishaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two of our HS pole vaulters went to a PV clinic at Lincoln over Christmas and came home raving about the new hydraulic banked track at Neb. They said they were the first group to be able to use the facility in fact they had to set up new pole vault pits that had just been delivered. They said they raised the banks one day and ran on them. Look for some fast times at Husker Invite and Big 12 indoor meet. Who else in nation has a hydraulic banked indoor track? = Kelley Halliburton Trade Marketing Manager Human Kinetics Publishers Champaign, IL __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
t-and-f: dawn ellerbe story
Here is the link to the George Vecsey column about Dawn Ellerbe in the NY Times. You might need to register with the site (free) to read it. http://www.nytimes.com/library/sports/olympics/080400oly-vecsey-column.html Kelley HalliburtonTrade Marketing ManagerHuman Kinetics PublishersChampaign, ILDo You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.