Re: t-and-f: Micheal Johnson

2000-07-26 Thread LTricard

when someone breaks 19.32, then you guys can talk..so, knock it off for 
now...it's boring



Re: t-and-f: Be Seated

2000-07-27 Thread LTricard

o my gosh...that's got to be the stupidist thing i've heard oftrack 
policelike we are a sport that needs them...hello...you have got to 
be kidding..



Re: t-and-f: Olympic Relay Squads

2000-08-01 Thread LTricard

In a message dated 08/01/2000 4:43:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Perhaps but they also have what nobody else in the world has...the horse 
at 
 the end...first three runners...keep it close...then BOOM...
  >>
just like wilma did in 1960



Re: t-and-f: Dwight's Tearyeyed Goodbye

2000-08-02 Thread LTricard

2 summers ago in athens, i was returning to my hotel...across the street was 
a cafe that old greek men frequent...this particular day, the world 
championships were on greek tv...and lo and behold, about 15 greek men were 
outside sitting in a semi-circle, intently watching the world t&f 
championships...i couldn't believe iti took a photo of itcan you see 
that happening here? is this the good tv coverage you guys are talking 
about



Re: t-and-f: NBC monopoly

2000-08-02 Thread LTricard

the BEST track and field coverage EVER was the triple cast of the barcelona 
olympics...without question..



Re: t-and-f: Dwight's Tearyeyed Goodbye

2000-08-02 Thread LTricard

the BEST coverage of track and field was, WITHOUT QUESTION, the triplecast of 
the barcelona olympics.better than being therealmost



Re: t-and-f: The Relay team

2000-09-05 Thread LTricard

In a message dated 09/02/2000 1:35:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< > By the way, has a "club" team ever run faster?  And has a "club" ever 
held
 the world record?
 
 
 HSI's 37.65 is the fastest by a club eclipsing the 37.79 run by Santa Monica
 in 1991 & 1994 ... Not aware of any club holding WR in the auto timed era ..
  >>
i know you guys are talking men...as usual...but i do have to mention that 
tennessee state university (hudson, jones, williams, rudolph) in rome ran 
44.5 for a wr
and...it was an all-tennessee state university team in 1956, getting the 
bronze in melbourne
and in 1964..an almost all tennessee state team getting the silver...
can you top this!



Re: t-and-f: World waits for Perec as Freeman opens her heart

2000-09-19 Thread LTricard

In a message dated 09/19/2000 12:31:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< The first woman to win both
 the 200m and 400m golds at a single Olympics has bee >>

SOMEONE OUGHT TO TELL HIM ABOUT VALERIE BRISCO AND 1984



Re: t-and-f: Rawson

2000-09-21 Thread LTricard

hey larry.we all love ya and know you do a super jobthe 
poster was just envious (as are we all) that we are not with you over there 
with you.louise



Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of ALEXANDER KARELIN

2000-09-29 Thread LTricard

i'm so glad it was costas and not carol...or everyone (almost) on the list 
would be posting  and that wasn't his only mistake!  louise



Re: t-and-f: Men's 200 Travesty and sprint thoughts

2000-09-29 Thread LTricard

if capel were more experienced, he would have raised his hand when he started 
to rock backrather than get caught that way..



Fwd: t-and-f: Re: Fwd: Who wants to be a millionaire?

2000-10-21 Thread LTricard

In a message dated 10/21/2000 1:16:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< 
 >Plus, I know the majority of us all in here would flounder on "Millionaire",
 >so can it!
 >
 Just in case anyone is on "Millionaire" and is asked, the correct word is 
 "founder", like a ship w/o a rudder. "Flounder" means make like the flat 
fish 
 and lie on the bottom. Just a pet grammatical peeve. Then again, maybe 
that's 
 what most people would do on the show.
  >>

for a second, i thought you might be correct...but no..it is 
flounder...according to webster..."to struggle to move or obtain footing...to 
proceed or act clumsily or ineffectually"




In a message dated 10/21/00 12:18:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Plus, I know the majority of us all in here would flounder on "Millionaire",
>so can it!
>
Just in case anyone is on "Millionaire" and is asked, the correct word is 
"founder", like a ship w/o a rudder. "Flounder" means make like the flat fish 
and lie on the bottom. Just a pet grammatical peeve. Then again, maybe that's 
what most people would do on the show.

Jim Gerweck
Running Times




Re: t-and-f: Doug Schneebeck deserves our vote

2000-11-17 Thread LTricard
the point is guys, that USATF  should be funding, in some way,  all levels of athletes...read what the initials represent, slowly.louise


Re: t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3691

2001-07-04 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 07/04/2001 8:48:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


.  The 
people that are selfish are the ones that try to make others fit into their 
view of what they think should happen but where would any of these people 
be 
if Maurice had ripped a hamstring on that cold, wet track?  Would any of 
you 
have donated to help if he had a career ending injury? Let the man alone.  


yeah...the keyboard track club!


Re: t-and-f: Geb update

2001-07-12 Thread LTricard
no fair...going in cold...bikila, who won the first gold barefoot?? 


Re: t-and-f: XC Long-Short Debate

2001-10-24 Thread LTricard

when the women in the us began running xc it was the 1.5 mile bridge to 
bridge loop at van cortlandt in 1962!!!  



Re: t-and-f: 400H

2001-01-12 Thread LTricard
ok...the girls of new york state have been running the 400mh, the 1500mr, the 
3000, and pentathlon for more than 20 years - i developed the program as the 
state chairperson in the early 80's - we ran the 400h while the boys of the 
state were doing the 300mh...louise


t-and-f: 400mh

2001-01-13 Thread LTricard
to be exact, new york state girls were running the 400mh in 1980 - i have the 
program for the first "combined" state meet in front of me - this was June 
5-6, 1981 at cornell university..it was then that the girls first ran the 
event in a state meet


Re: t-and-f: Logical ?

2001-01-13 Thread LTricard
just ask kim batten what the benefits of running the 400mh were while in high 
school in rochester, new york


Re: t-and-f: 400H

2001-01-13 Thread LTricard
you are not getting on my case, mike...there is NO DOUBT in my mind that the 
nys girls ran the 400mh FIRST...i was state chairman.i loved it


Re: t-and-f: TNF does it again

2001-01-15 Thread LTricard
the real story is that the ballots were counted in florida!!! now, guys, does 
that explain everything??


Re: t-and-f: Relay Dream Teams

2001-01-22 Thread LTricard
well..if you put the fastest all-time 100's together...
flo-jo
marion
evelyn
and a toss up between inger and dawn

in the 4x4
valerie
chandra
jearl
gwen


Re: t-and-f: [OZTRACK] IAAF considers important rule changes (womens decathlo...

2001-03-13 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/13/2001 12:20:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



change suggestion is that an athlete in events under 400m in length
shall be disqualified for making one false start, rather than two. 


we are proposing a rule change in the u.s. for starters, not athletessee 
below


IAAF Starting Rules Compliance Change
from “after” to “when”

Proposal: To change USATF Rule 60.3 (line 2) to read, “When all
competitors are “set,” the pistol shall be fired.” (Instead of , as it
reads now, “after” all competitors are set ” USATF will then be
in compliance with IAAF Rule 162.3.

IAAF Rule 162.3:
“ On your marks, “Set,” and when all competitors are “Set” the
gun shall be fired, or approved statring apparatus activated.”

USATF Rule 60.3:
“On your marks and “Set, “ and after all competitors are “set”,
the pistol shall be fired.”

This change significantly reduces the number of false starts in the
Sprints and Hurdles which benefits Athletes, Officials, Spectators, 
and TV time constraints.
The longer a Starter “holds” the athlete beyond the “Set Point” the
more likely there are to be false starts. Few false starts are
observed, comparitively speaking, when the Starter fires the gun at
the “Set Point”. After arbitrarily allows the Starter to hold the
Athlete for as long as he wants (2, 5 seconds or more) which is not
good for the Sprinters/Hurdlers or the Sport. 

For those concerned about “anticipation,” it is impossible to “time
out” Starters utilizing “when” since the time factor from “set to
gun” is a wide variable. Conversely, Starters who hold athletes
beyond the “set point” tend to have a subconscious consistency in
their set/gun interval; and are easy to time out (guess).





Re: t-and-f: field-falsie (was: Proposed changes in IAAF rules

2001-03-15 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/14/2001 11:55:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


There is definitely some discretion, and a good
starter will vary the tempo from race to race to discourage runners from
attempting to guess when he/she will fire the gun.



if any of you ever sprinted and experienced to the starting position and the 
pressure (physical and psychological) during those few seconds on the 
starting line, you would realize that the athlete is in an extremely 
precarious situation...on one hand they have to wait for the gun - on the 
other hand they need to "explode" out of the blockswhile balancing on 
their fingertips while the starter in the united states is allowed to fire 
the gun "after" (maybe one month later) everyone is set..for those of you 
that take pleasure in calling some of your favorite sprinters and hurdlers 
"cheaters" try a sprint start sometime in a local meet..
sprinters are not cheatersour starters are holding them too long in MOST 
cases...that is the reason for the iaaf rule, which, with one little word in 
the start rule "WHEN",  makes all of the difference in the world.


Re: t-and-f: field-falsie (was: Proposed changes in IAAF rules

2001-03-15 Thread LTricard
the only canadian terrorist i know is you...and from what chaplin said, you 
never sprinted!


Re: t-and-f: inopportune falsies (was: New rules

2001-03-19 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/19/2001 12:49:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


All he needed to do was walk around the track to make the final but he was 
so nervous he false-started TWICE and was DQed!



well, well, well...i knew there MUST be another reason (besides cheating) why 
sprinters/hurdlers false start...thanks for providing some useful insight!


Re: t-and-f: New rules

2001-03-20 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/20/2001 8:43:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I.E. Its marketability TO THE FANS AND FOLLOWERS

those fans are there with or without you...they are the high school kids who 
buy the shoes, etcand the collegiansand they'll always be 
there...


Re: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" LOL

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 4:34:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Why try to eliminate false starts??? Its all part of
the sport:- people trying to get as fast out of the
blocks as possible...there are bound to be mistakes

yeah...why is that s hard for others (supposedly track fans) to 
understand?


Re: t-and-f: While we're at it

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 4:29:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


False starts slow down a meet much more than anything going on in a field 
event, because they tie up the track and delay the start of next race.  If 
some field event is dragging along for some reason only that one event is 
affected.  False starts have the potential to delay every subsequent track 
race on the schedule.






Re: t-and-f: While we're at it

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 4:29:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


False starts slow down a meet much more than anything going on in a field 
event, because they tie up the track and delay the start of next race.  If 
some field event is dragging along for some reason only that one event is 
affected.  False starts have the potential to delay every subsequent track 
race on the schedule

what a crock...the whole thing


Re: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" LOL

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 6:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:



PS Every time you or Darrell sends one of your blatantly self-interested 
posts, you lose respect and fans, although it's clear from your other 
posts 
that you don't give a fuck about that. You have left a lot of people 
disillusioned with HSI as a result of your aggressive and patronizing 
intervention in this debate.


 oh yeah...you non-sprinter, all you can do is type guys,who think you own 
the board, can't stand it when someone who KNOWS what they are talking 
about comments..you should be delighted to have an AUTHORITY join the 
discussion.or is it too threatening...i love it..and don't speak 
for me, i'm not disillusioned...




Re: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" UHhuhuuhh ... I DON'T OWN THE BOARD. ...

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 7:27:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Yikes!  I am definitely NOT the meanest guy on the board any more:
 


wrong..i'm not a guy!!   you still have your title!


Re: t-and-f: new rules

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 10:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I sprinted for four years for CCNY

wow...real high tech sprinting...it's like saying, i sprinted for 
hunter.




Re: t-and-f: New rules

2001-03-21 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/21/2001 9:33:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


But I don't hear that from them

and when did you do your study??? i don't remember reading the results




Re: t-and-f: What's next?

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
the start for the sprinter/hurdler is such a complex piece of the race...it 
is the only event in track and field which symbiotically is linked with 
another person, the starter (and how do we hold him accountable - as 
mentioned earlier, iaaf/usatf rules differ) - these are the only events in 
track and field where an athlete is prevented from competing (tossed out of 
the meet) should they break the second timeall eyes are on the start of 
the dash, when a mistake is made, it is signalled by a multiple series of 
shots - yes, everyone knows a mistake was made (the long jumper fouls, for 
example, and no gun shots call attention to the error!! - someone just waves 
a pretty little red flag and many people don't even see it), the 
sprinter/hurdler has the greatest pressure on him/her at that set point, to 
go from absolute stillness to explosive speed in a short distance, is typical 
to no other event in the program - not to mention the odd weight bearing 
position that the athlete is in..so, before you call sprinters/hurdlers 
cheaters and want to abolish the current rule...thinkit's not a simple as 
you make itif they break, they get called back - and now have to approach 
the start with this punishment added to the above...isn't that enough to pay 
for a break??? all other athletes are given 3 tries/warnings to correct their 
errrors...how many times have you seen an athlete looking up to the coach in 
the stands for the adjustment of their mark, for example...yes, the coach 
helps them with their error from the stands prior to the next try!!! i just 
watched this over and over at the indoor nationals are those athletes 
cheaters and tossed out i could go on and on..but i hate to be 
lengthy


Re: t-and-f: What's next?

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/23/2001 12:11:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Check out the rest of the proposed rule-change package: two attempts in the 
verticals, 4 attempts instead of 6 in the other field events. Nobody's 
picking on the sprinters and hurdlers in specific. The intent of the rules 
changes is far-reaching.



yeah...but no one except the sprinters/hurdlers are getting BOOTED OUT OF THE 
COMPETITION..mean motha


Re: t-and-f: Epilogue

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/23/2001 12:05:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


.  I do biochemistry and develop blood tests for living, but 
many people on the list feel no hesitation whatsoever in arguing with me 

but your outcome in the lab is not to defer to idiots...however in the great 
council of the iaaf, who votes - (oh yeah, it's a democtatic process)  NOT 
THE ATHLETES...the fat, lobster-eating old men.



Re: t-and-f: What's next?

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/23/2001 1:22:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 
Humiliation?  That is what you feel when you get pulled from the track for 
being lapped in a dist. race.  You didn't even do anything "wrong",  you 
just weren't "good enough."
 

 well...we all know that this is not on the elite level...but..i did not hear 
any of you distance freaks mention that maybe the longer events (over 400m) 
they showed on tv, took away from the sprinter's time...how about that...we 
want equal time



Re: t-and-f: What's next?

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/23/2001 2:58:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Join the world of the walks baby! 




AND...you have already walked part of your race, if not the whole thing!


Fwd: t-and-f: What's next?

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/23/2001 2:58:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Join the world of the walks baby! 


come on3 warnings!...that's 2 more than we get...no 
comparisonAND YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF YOUR FEET, there is no starter 
controlling you





Netters

Louise ( the mean mutha:) wrote:
> yeah...but no one except the sprinters/hurdlers are getting BOOTED OUT OF
> THE COMPETITION..mean motha

Join the world of the walks baby! 






Re: t-and-f: athlete input (was: What's next?

2001-03-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/23/2001 7:17:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


study 

huh? where's the 
study?? (sounds good, though - you may fool a 
few people)
the athletes are only the actors.and you say that the alphabet people do 
the studies...hellowhat university are they affiliated with??


Re: t-and-f: World XC: Would the USA Have Won?

2001-03-25 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 3/25/2001 5:05:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Or do you still want
to talk about false starts and theoretical
minimum reaction times?




no...we were just filling in the time for you until you got these x-c 
results!!


Re: t-and-f: Misprint?

2001-04-12 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 4/12/2001 11:53:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


’74 NCAA Championships: 7 heats produced no fewer than 18 false 

that's 27 years agocan't you do any better


Re: t-and-f: Re: content

2001-04-14 Thread LTricard
well, this is a t&f listlast year when i suggested to someone that they 
read my book  (american women's track and field:a history 1895-1980), before 
posting women's history comments, the list supervisor suggested that i not 
advertise (of course, this has been done since)...but where is he/she 
now and you get on dgs for his quotes?


Re: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism

2001-05-01 Thread LTricard
bravoright onwhy can't everyone else see that it was a similiar 
thing that created the tennessee state dynasty in women's track in the late 
50's-60's...culimnating in wilma rudolph's 3 gold medal victory in rome and 
wyomia tyus' first back to back 100 meter gold medal victorieslouise


t-and-f: proposed no false start rule by the iaaf

2001-05-14 Thread LTricard
  05/13: AOL Sports: Athletics-False starts proposal ridiculous, says Jones 


Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 05/16/2001 10:46:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


That is where they are WRONG.  Even if you take it for a cold, it is STILL
giving you an advantage.  It is still a stimulant whether it is bought at
the supermarket or the perf. dope pusher. 

let's see...if you have a cold - that is a negative - if you take a cold 
medicine - that's a positive.DO THEY CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT??? 







t-and-f: clark

2001-05-16 Thread LTricard
and hazel didn't go to lisbon, so what was she trying to do just beat 
jearl?


Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-18 Thread LTricard
what about prior to drug testingwe all took aspirin, etc...now, should we 
go back and erase every record...or check to see if "jesse" had a cold in 
berlin and took 2 aspirins before he competedwe were all druggies back 
then..who knew


Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-18 Thread LTricard
hazel gained/lost nothing...she was on the olympic team(she's not a fat/short 
shot putter)...she was not going to worlds...there was no question that she 
would place in the indoors...(only her sister-in-law was her competition) AND 
IF SHE IS LIKE JOETTA, GET USED TO HER BEING AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME AS 
THE # 1 800 METER RUNNER IN THE U.S. AND ONE OF THE TOP IN THE WORLD


Re: t-and-f: New rules to challenge athletes at adidas Oregon

2001-05-23 Thread LTricard
yeah...as someone said, you pay $60. for a concert and you want to see the 
star perform LESS!!!


Re: t-and-f: New rules to challenge athletes at adidas Oregon

2001-05-24 Thread LTricard
Britain puts block on single false-start experiment 

Duncan Mackay
Thursday May 10, 2001
The Guardian 

Britain has joined the world's top sprinters in rebelling against the 
International Amateur Athletic
Federation's plan to make one false start, instead of two, incur 
disqualification. It has refused to allow the
experimental rule to be used at its leading meetings. 
Alan Pascoe, the chairman of Fast Track, the sports marketing agents, said 
yesterday that UK Athletics
specifically asked that the change be not implemented at this season's five 
televised events in Britain. 
"If ultimately the IAAF council developed these rule changes into IAAF law 
then it is possible UK Athletics
may be forced to implement those changes for later in the season," Pascoe 
said. "But I can state
categorically that, as things stand, they will not be introduced into the 
UK." 
The IAAF, the sport's world governing body, announced in March that it would 
experiment in second-tier
international meetings and a permanent change to the rule could be introduced 
at a meeting on the eve of
the world championships in Edmonton in August. 
The change is designed to stamp out the multiple false starts which blight so 
many top meetings. 
The experiment has drawn an angry reaction from the top sprinters, and Ato 
Boldon, Trinidad's former
world 200m champion, has started a petition against the plan. Among those who 
have signed are Maurice
Greene, the Olympic 100m champion and world record holder. 
"The event could be changed irrevocably and the existing world 100m and 200m 
records could be set in
stone if this is allowed to happen," said Greene, who will be running in the 
British grand prix meeting at
Crystal Palace on July 22. 
Boldon said: "From what we are hearing, midway through 2001 we will be 
looking at one false start being it
[disqualification], and it could be in for the world championships. 
"We have a petition going round at the moment, which everyone in our group 
signed two weeks ago, and
every athlete I know has signed it. The concern is that meets are running 
over schedule because we have too
many false starts. But the public is going to demand that they reverse this 
because, the first time Maurice
Greene or Ato Boldon are thrown out, people will say they didn't get their 
money's worth. There will be
false starts and no one will be running inside 10 seconds because we have to 
be so careful." 
Pascoe added: "If you lose a big star because of this it seems a retrograde 
step that doesn't really help the
sport in the long term." 





,



Re: t-and-f: pre 100

2001-05-27 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 05/27/2001 6:27:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


10 min of good TV time devoted to the 100 with false starts et.al. John
Drummond should have been DQ'd for not displaying all of his number (Pre
Classic was not visible

no, the STARTER should have been dq'ed...


Re: t-and-f: I'm out......

2001-05-28 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 05/28/2001 4:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I bet it would have sat Jarret in the blocks and kept him from 
stalingrad the race!  



but...what about the responsibility of the starter...and the re-call 
starter.lay the blame where it should be.that is THEIR job...


Re: t-and-f: I'm out......

2001-05-29 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 05/29/2001 10:56:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


If the NFS rule was in operation, would 
you have been charged with the FS, or would you have made sure you didn't 
jump early?" Different rules make for different circumstances

he already told us he was charged INCORRECTLY.


Re: t-and-f: I'm out......

2001-05-29 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 05/29/2001 5:15:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


yeah, and Patrick Jarrett told us that he didn't false start either

no..patrick jarrett told us that he didn't hear the gun...he was right




t-and-f: what gun?

2001-05-29 Thread LTricard
Jarrett said after the race that he did not think he started early, although 
he acknowledged that he did not hear the starter's gun, but got out of the 
blocks alongside Bernard Williams, who was in the lane next to him."Usually I 
hear the gun, but for some reason I didn't," Jarrett said. "I was real 
nervous, I think that is the only way to explain it. Williams and I went out 
at the same time."

from the oregon newspaper


Re: FW: t-and-f: Webb and Hall

2001-06-14 Thread LTricard
marjorie, my friend then, was 15 when she made her first team in 1952---and 
placed 13th.she was our only entry in the javelin...


Re: FW: t-and-f: Webb and Hall

2001-06-14 Thread LTricard
well, esther stroy was 14 in 1968...400m 54.3 in semis.


Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

2001-06-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 06/23/2001 11:03:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


If there's an endangered species whose frame of reference is sorely missing 
here, how about 52% of the populace? You know, women. 



well, one "endangered" SPRINTER reads daily and posts...and for other 
sprinters, you need to RECOGNIZE who they are, as garrry 
said.they're here


Re: t-and-f: Eugene 100 results present relay challenge

2001-06-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 06/23/2001 5:52:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


"May the relay arguments begin!"

 and they will...since our 96 and 00 lead off leg was 6th





Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

2001-06-23 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 06/23/2001 10:36:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


How come?
1. Sprinters don't know how to use computers? (I don't buy that)
2. Sprinters too busy training to find time to surf? (train more than 
distance
   runners???)
3. Cultural resistance to sprinters being viewed as 'net geeks'?
4. They're afraid they wouldn't be welcome on this list?
5. Sprinters can't afford a computer? (probably no more of a problem for 
young
   active sprinters than for young active any other event)
6. Sprinters let their feet do their talkin' ? (hah!  there's enough trash
   talking among sprinters to fuel Alexander the Great's army for 
months!)
7. No word-of-mouth mention of the list among sprinters ? ("hey, you oughta
   check out this e-mail distribution list I saw last night")

and some of them, marion included, are tending to their teriffic web 
sites..

 AtoBoldon.com 


Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-27 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 06/27/2001 8:49:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


The long and short of it?  If you want power, you must take it or make it.  
No one is going to give it to you.

here is the power...it's working..

 THE NO FALSE START RULE
 DISCRIMINATION AGAINST SPRINTERS

WHEREAS the start for the sprinter/hurdler is a complex part of the race
and sprinters/hurdlers are the only athletes symbiotically linked with
another person, the starter (who is never held accountable)

WHEREAS starters often cause false starts by holding athletes beyond the
set point and calling false starts for movement with rather than before the
gun, violating IAAF rules 162.3,6

WHEREAS sprinters/hurdlers are the only athletes in all of track and field
prevented from competing before their event essentially begins

WHEREAS other athletes (lj, tj, hj, pv, sp, dt, ht, jt, rw) are given multiple
fouls/misses

WHEREAS sprinters/hurdlers take the least time to perform and
experienced meet directors build false start time into a meet (the same as
they plan for slower athletes in longer running events)

WHEREAS meet delays are primarily due to poor organization and
administration of track meets

WHEREAS punishment for one false start is severe enough (i.e. having to
go passive and getting a poorer start)

WHEREAS many factors (nervousness, akward set position on fingertips,
noise from other events and spectators) contribute to false starts which have
nothing to do with anticipation (which is not prohibited by the written rules
- in rule 162.1-8 anticipation is never mentioned)

WHEREAS concentration at the set point is diametrically opposed -
explode out but don’t move

WHEREAS false start disqualification affects spectator interest, world
rankings and athlete’s compensation

We, the undersigned, world class current and former athletes, representing
the sprinters/hurdlers of the world (those actually on the starting line),
petition the IAAF Congress to vote NO to changing the false start rule
(IAAF Rule 162-7).

Signed by (to date: June 13, 2001)

Jon Drummond
Chryste Gaines
Maurice Greene
Danny McCray
Ato Boldon
Marion Jones
Miesha McKelvy Jones
Kevin Little
Christine Aaron
Sharon Couch
Allen Johnson
Mark Crear
Inger Miller
Bruny Surin
Bernard Williams
Stacy Dragila
Brent Hogan
Angela Williams
Curtis Johnson
Sheila Hudson
Shaunta Pelham
Yueling Chen
Tiffany Lott-Hogan
Jason Bender
PattiSue Plumer
Terry Reese
Chitua Ohaeri
Jason Van Swol
Larry Wade
Dena Starkey
Dominique Arnold
Ned Brooks
Charles Wells
Kathy Rounds
Eddy Hellebuyck
David Morris
M. Nicole Harrison
Roland McGhee
Desiree Owen
David Furman
Mark Block
Tim Brennan
Ladonna Antoine
Richard Benoy
Chris Stancliff
Tongula Givens
Stanislav Olijar
Miguel Janssen
Ian Atkins
Sarah Zawada
Dr. Bruno Baumgartner
Marta Baumgartner
Barbara Baumgartner
Veronica Baumgartner
Allan Webb
Philip Peters
Maurice Herzog
Irie Hill
Warren Hill
Christian North
Larissa Lowe
Jason Hinkin
Rachael Dacy
Dave Jacobs
John Austin



to sign, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 





Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-28 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 06/27/2001 11:53:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


There is so much more that can be done in terms of using the big names to 
push the sport.  The clinics should be prominent, not pushed to the back as 
a 
side show.  The autograph booths should far more visible.  

this is so true...that's all we need...a ton of visibility in creative 
ways...look at lederman last night...with the "mile kid".