Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-19 Thread Todd Harbron

Yeah, but does anyone remember the name of the movie?  I think Timothy Bottoms
was the actor.  Something like The Last Mile or the The Lonely Mile?

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:59:26 -0700 (PDT) John Schiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

John Baker was a member of the Duke City Dashers. 
Actually, many runners were a member of that team back
in Alb.

Chip Smith, Glenn Morgan, Simon Guitierrez, Schiefer,
etc.

Schiefer

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Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-19 Thread malmo

A Shining Season.

malmo

Yeah, but does anyone remember the name of the movie?  I think Timothy Bottoms

was the actor.  Something like The Last Mile or the The Lonely Mile?

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:59:26 -0700 (PDT) John Schiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

John Baker was a member of the Duke City Dashers. 
Actually, many runners were a member of that team back
in Alb.

Chip Smith, Glenn Morgan, Simon Guitierrez, Schiefer,
etc.

Schiefer

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Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-19 Thread Todd Harbron

Oops. Ignore my last e-mail...thanks for the answer.

On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:34:29 -0600 H. Michael Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The movie A Shining Season came 18 years after a Brigham University Movie
based on the life of Univ. of New Mexico runner John Baker, which was
entitled John Baker's Last Race (1970).

http://www.buyindies.com/listings/T/M/BYUX-TM014.html

Mike






Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Duncan

Another good movie was Four Minute Mile.  See
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0095171 for more information.  There was even a
querky Cerutty character in this production.

Much better was Roger Bannister's own book, The Four Minute Mile.  Go to
amazon.com for a description.

bob




Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread FJ LEE

 Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
 novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
 it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
 curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or
 books? 

wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-
trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the 
freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early 
80's?

How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person to 
triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?

JL




t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Lee Nichols

Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the 
novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that 
it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me 
curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or 
books? I haven't read/seen that many. Of course, The Loneliness of 
the Long Distance Runner was good, but it wasn't really specifically 
about our sport. I thought both Prefontaine movies were pretty bad, 
although the first one was wretchedly worse. I saw Personal Best in 
high school, and thought the scenes of the athletes smoking pot was 
bizarre. Maybe I'm naive, but I certainly never would have toked up 
while I was a competitive athlete -- aside from drug tests, I was 
afraid of damaging my lungs.

Frankly, I think one of the better ones I've seen was Running Brave 
-- which is not to say it was a good movie, just better than the 
others I've seen. I think I just like that great re-creation of the 
final lap of Mills' 10K -- although I did bust out laughing when I 
saw the American football markings on the infield. Not too much 
gridiron played in Tokyo, last I checked.

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RE: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Bloomquist, Bret

This is too obvious, but Chariots of Fire.

And there was the javlin throw in Revenge of the Nerds. Can't forget that.

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  Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
  novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
  it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
  curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or
  books? 
 
 wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-
 trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the 
 freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early 
 80's?
 
 How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person to 
 triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?
 
 JL



Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread RunrCoach

In a message dated Wed, 11 Sep 2002 1:36:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, FJ LEE 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
 novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
 it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
 curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or
 books? 

wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-
trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the 
freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early 
80's?

How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person to 
triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?

JL

That was the Jericho Mile.  

A.C.



RE: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread WARD, MARK -CKHS

I read Once a Runner every year to start the season.  Chariots of Fire
is an obvious choice for pretty good.  I too enjoy Running Brave.  Another
sleeper would be The Jericho Mile about a prison runner.

M. Ward




RE: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Chapman, Robert


wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-trial in 
jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the 
freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early 
80's?

The Jericho Mile

RC





Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Martin J. Dixon

Jericho Mile-1979. Strauss starred-Mann directed-pre Heat, Thief,
Manhunter(the first Hannibal Lector movie) and of course Miami Vice. Great
movie. The strains of Sympathy to the Devil can easily get you out the
door. Book-Once A Runner-the 400 repeats work-out is a classic. The
Olympian is better written but not as good if you are a runner.
Regards,
Martin

FJ LEE wrote:

  Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
  novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
  it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
  curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or
  books?

 wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-
 trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the
 freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early
 80's?

 How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person to
 triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?

 JL








Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Mike Prizy

Wasn't there another made-for-TV movie about a college-aged distance runner stricken 
with cancer who
eventually died? I thought it was fact-based. I could be way off on the circa, but I 
thought it came
out around The Jericho Mile.

Martin J. Dixon wrote:

 Jericho Mile-1979. Strauss starred-Mann directed-pre Heat, Thief,
 Manhunter(the first Hannibal Lector movie) and of course Miami Vice. Great
 movie. The strains of Sympathy to the Devil can easily get you out the
 door. Book-Once A Runner-the 400 repeats work-out is a classic. The
 Olympian is better written but not as good if you are a runner.
 Regards,
 Martin

 FJ LEE wrote:

   Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
   novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
   it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
   curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or
   books?
 
  wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-
  trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the
  freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early
  80's?
 
  How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person to
  triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?
 
  JL




Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Dan Kaplan

If you want to browse through all the running books and movies I have
compiled, here's the link on Run-Down:

http://run-down.com/index.php?cat_id=592

Click on Details for any you are interested in and it will show you Amazon
user reviews (just added yesterday) and other somewhat pertinent info.

Dan

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RE: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Matt Stohl

My quick reviews . . .

Books:

Once a Runner - Fantastic

Running with the Buffalos - Interesting

Pre! - Great

Forgot the title - But a really good book about Olympic marathoner Buddy 
Elden (I know that is not the proper name, but something like that)

Carl Lewis's book - diary of the year leading up to the Olympic games - not 
a bad read.

Movies:

Running Brave - Good

Without Limits - The slow-motion racing scenes are excellent!  (I especially 
like the scene where Pre's foot is hurt after the hand-stand scene, he is 
running in slow-motion and the only sound is the pounding of his foot, then 
the scene speeds up as he crosses the finish line - great scene)

Jericho Mile - ok

Endurance - Boring!!!  With the exception of the Olympic scene.

Across the Tracks - Brad Pitt and Ricky Shroeder as brothers who run the 800 
meters - I love this movie.

Prefontaine - So BAD  Just awful!!  (Took the original documentary and 
re-made it with bad actors, the guy playing Bowerman was a joke! Truly bad 
cinema!)

And that is my two-cents . . .

Matt Stohl




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Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread John Lunn

If I am not mistaken, the movie that you remember is about a University of New Mexico 
miler by the name
of  Baker.
John

Mike Prizy wrote:

 Wasn't there another made-for-TV movie about a college-aged distance runner stricken 
with cancer who
 eventually died? I thought it was fact-based. I could be way off on the circa, but I 
thought it came
 out around The Jericho Mile.

 Martin J. Dixon wrote:

  Jericho Mile-1979. Strauss starred-Mann directed-pre Heat, Thief,
  Manhunter(the first Hannibal Lector movie) and of course Miami Vice. Great
  movie. The strains of Sympathy to the Devil can easily get you out the
  door. Book-Once A Runner-the 400 repeats work-out is a classic. The
  Olympian is better written but not as good if you are a runner.
  Regards,
  Martin
 
  FJ LEE wrote:
 
Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies or
books?
  
   wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile time-
   trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the
   freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early
   80's?
  
   How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person to
   triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?
  
   JL





Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Matt Stohl

I think you are refering to the movie about John Baker.  I don't remember 
the movie title, but it was based on the true story of UNM runner John Baker 
and his battle with cancer.

Matt Stohl


From: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:23:25 -0500

Wasn't there another made-for-TV movie about a college-aged distance runner 
stricken with cancer who
eventually died? I thought it was fact-based. I could be way off on the 
circa, but I thought it came
out around The Jericho Mile.

Martin J. Dixon wrote:

  Jericho Mile-1979. Strauss starred-Mann directed-pre Heat, Thief,
  Manhunter(the first Hannibal Lector movie) and of course Miami Vice. 
Great
  movie. The strains of Sympathy to the Devil can easily get you out the
  door. Book-Once A Runner-the 400 repeats work-out is a classic. The
  Olympian is better written but not as good if you are a runner.
  Regards,
  Martin
 
  FJ LEE wrote:
 
Thanks for all the help I got in remembering the name of the
novel/movie The Games. I noticed that most responders agreed that
it was pretty bad, both in written and film form, which got me
curious -- can anyone think of any truly good track  field movies 
or
books?
  
   wasn't there a movie about a convict who runs a sub 4-minute mile 
time-
   trial in jail, and then throws his spikes over the fence (i.e. the
   freedom side) as the final scene?  I think it was the late 70's-early
   80's?
  
   How can we forget Golden Girl with Susan Anton... the first person 
to
   triple in the sprints.. 100-200-400?  Marion, are you out there?
  
   JL




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Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread J. Peters

Mike Prizy wrote:

 Wasn't there another made-for-TV movie about a college-aged distance
runner stricken with cancer who
 eventually died? I thought it was fact-based. I could be way off on
the circa, but I thought it came
 out around The Jericho Mile.
 
 Martin J. Dixon wrote:
 

Could this be The Shining Season?  It played on HBO in '88.  The only
actor I can name is Ed Begley, Jr, who played the main character's
friend and teammate.  It was set in Albuquerque, if I recall correctly.
 The main character was just out of college, and coached a youth team,
the Dashers, with Ed B's assistance.  He dies of cancer in the end, just
as the team achieves its great triumph.

It's a rather sappy movie, I think.  Or maybe I just remember it that
way because I saw it about 5 times while on maternity leave.

Jennifer
-- 
Pacem en teris, mir, shanti, salaam, hey wah




RE: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread Lee Nichols

Well duh, I guess if I had been thinking when I wrote my original 
post, Chariots of Fire would have been obvious. (Although, quite 
frankly, I thought it was a little boring. Nicely shot, though -- 
I've seen pictures of those Olys, and they recreated the scene pretty 
faithfully, down to the font of the runners' numbers.)


Endurance - Boring!!!  With the exception of the Olympic scene.

I forgot about Endurance, which is funny, because I wrote an 
article about it when it came out: 
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue40/screens.endurance.html. 
You're right, it was a pretty boring documentary (and actually, I was 
thinking more of dramatic and fiction works than documentaries when I 
asked the initial question).

Feel free to brutally critique my writing -- as if this group needed 
any encouragment. :-)
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Re: t-and-f: GOOD track field movies/books?

2002-09-11 Thread John Schiefer

John Baker was a member of the Duke City Dashers. 
Actually, many runners were a member of that team back
in Alb.

Chip Smith, Glenn Morgan, Simon Guitierrez, Schiefer,
etc.

Schiefer

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