Re: t-and-f: NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational
I think its a travesty that Arkansas is ranked 3rd after they have won 3 straight titles and have brought in Cragg, Silverus Kimeli to replace who's gone. They should start #1 every year and stay there until somebody beats them, they've earned that. Then again, what the heck do polls matter? Or Pre-Nats? Grote adiRP/MMRD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational Pre-Nats??? This looks like Nationals minus Arkansas and Wisconsin!!! A quick count reveals that only 7 men's and 4 women's teams ranked in the top 25 in the latest polls won't be there. Ranked teams that will be there: Men: 1, 2, 5, 8-11, 13-22, 24 Women: 1-6, 8,9, 11-13, 15-22, 24, 25 How much longer before Griak becomes the meet that qualifies you for the Pre-NCAA? :-) I think the qualifying system is much more fair than it was before the field was expanded, but at what cost? Many meets now suffer because schools prefer going to Pre-NCAA or Griak. For example: Murray Keating, Wolverine Interregional, Big Cross (Pasco, Wa), Central Collegiates, Paul Short, etc. And what about poor schools in the southeast district? They have to run at Furman for Districts as well. So probably half their races are on the same course. So is the Pre-NCAA idea a good one? I still think so, but would like to hear what others think. sideshow In a message dated Tue, 9 Oct 2001 5:21:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Info from Furman on this Saturday's NCAA Pre-Meet. Following is some crucial information on the NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational, slated for Saturday, Oct. 13, at the Furman Cross Country Course (on the Furman Golf Course). Schedule of Events 8:30 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Girls 5K 9:10 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Boys 5K 9:40 Furman Invitational Varsity Girls 5K 10:15 Furman Invitational Varsity Boys 5K 10:45 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Purple 6K 11:20 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Silver 6K 11:55 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Black 8K 12:35 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Gold 8K 1:15 Furman Invitational Men's 8K 2:00 Furman Invitational Women's 6K Teams that have been accepted into the NCAA Pre-Meet races will be announced Thursday at noon on the Furman website. The address is www.furmanpaladins.com. Please click on the NCAA Championships logo, scroll down to the results section, and click on the Furman Invitational/NCAA Pre-Meet link. There you will find links to the race fields for the pre-meet races. There will be two balanced women's pre-meet races (purple silver) and two balanced men's pre-meet races (black gold). All other teams, and all overflow individuals will be put into the Furman Invitational races. Each pre-meet race will have 37 teams and NO individuals. COMPLETE Collegiate Fields (Men): Stanford, Washington, Georgia Tech, Alabama, Virginia, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State, Texas, ETSU, UNC Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), Butler, Northern Iowa, Iowa, Youngstown State, Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, Colorado State, Marshall, Air Force, Brevard, Central Michigan, Dartmouth, Wofford, Cornell, Texas Tech, Oregon, North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Samford, Michigan State, LaSalle, Guelph, Missouri, Utah, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Furman, Villanova, Bucknell, Indiana, Life, Bethune Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, BYU, Indiana, Montreat, Elon, Princeton, College of Charleston, Belmont, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Western Kentucky, Radford, Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Cincinnati, Nofolk State, Eastern Michigan, New Mexico, Georgia, Florida, Weber State, Notre Dame, Winthrop, Davidson, Mercer, Lenoir Rhyne, Miami (Ohio), Clemson, Tennessee, Syracuse, Kent State, Toledo, Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa), UNC Charlotte, Emory, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Savannah State, Richmond, Eastern Illinois, Loyola (Chicago), Tennessee Tech, Ohio State, Creighton, The Citadel, UC-Santa Barbara, UCLA, Minnesota, South Florida, Charleston Southern, Baylor, Virginia Tech COMPLETE Collegiate Field (Women): Missouri, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Mississippi State, Furman, BYU, Villanova, Bucknell, IUPUI, Life, Tennessee, Bethune-Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, College of Charleston, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Minnesota, Western Kentucky, Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Elon, Princeton, New Mexico, Georgia, Weber State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Winthrop, Mercer, Pittsburg, Boston College, Lenoir-Rhyne, Yale, Stanford, Miami (Ohio), Columbia, Washington, Indiana, Georgia Tech, South Alabama, Virginia, Texas, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State
t-and-f: NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational
Info from Furman on this Saturday's NCAA Pre-Meet. Following is some crucial information on the NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational, slated for Saturday, Oct. 13, at the Furman Cross Country Course (on the Furman Golf Course). Schedule of Events 8:30 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Girls 5K 9:10 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Boys 5K 9:40 Furman Invitational Varsity Girls 5K 10:15 Furman Invitational Varsity Boys 5K 10:45 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Purple 6K 11:20 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Silver 6K 11:55 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Black 8K 12:35 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Gold 8K 1:15 Furman Invitational Men's 8K 2:00 Furman Invitational Women's 6K Teams that have been accepted into the NCAA Pre-Meet races will be announced Thursday at noon on the Furman website. The address is www.furmanpaladins.com. Please click on the NCAA Championships logo, scroll down to the results section, and click on the Furman Invitational/NCAA Pre-Meet link. There you will find links to the race fields for the pre-meet races. There will be two balanced women's pre-meet races (purple silver) and two balanced men's pre-meet races (black gold). All other teams, and all overflow individuals will be put into the Furman Invitational races. Each pre-meet race will have 37 teams and NO individuals. COMPLETE Collegiate Fields (Men): Stanford, Washington, Georgia Tech, Alabama, Virginia, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State, Texas, ETSU, UNC Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), Butler, Northern Iowa, Iowa, Youngstown State, Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, Colorado State, Marshall, Air Force, Brevard, Central Michigan, Dartmouth, Wofford, Cornell, Texas Tech, Oregon, North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Samford, Michigan State, LaSalle, Guelph, Missouri, Utah, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Furman, Villanova, Bucknell, Indiana, Life, Bethune Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, BYU, Indiana, Montreat, Elon, Princeton, College of Charleston, Belmont, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Western Kentucky, Radford, Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Cincinnati, Nofolk State, Eastern Michigan, New Mexico, Georgia, Florida, Weber State, Notre Dame, Winthrop, Davidson, Mercer, Lenoir Rhyne, Miami (Ohio), Clemson, Tennessee, Syracuse, Kent State, Toledo, Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa), UNC Charlotte, Emory, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Savannah State, Richmond, Eastern Illinois, Loyola (Chicago), Tennessee Tech, Ohio State, Creighton, The Citadel, UC-Santa Barbara, UCLA, Minnesota, South Florida, Charleston Southern, Baylor, Virginia Tech COMPLETE Collegiate Field (Women): Missouri, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Mississippi State, Furman, BYU, Villanova, Bucknell, IUPUI, Life, Tennessee, Bethune-Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, College of Charleston, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Minnesota, Western Kentucky, Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Elon, Princeton, New Mexico, Georgia, Weber State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Winthrop, Mercer, Pittsburg, Boston College, Lenoir-Rhyne, Yale, Stanford, Miami (Ohio), Columbia, Washington, Indiana, Georgia Tech, South Alabama, Virginia, Texas, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State, ETSU, Northwestern, UNC Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), Butler, Northern Iowa, Youngstown State, Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, Colorado State, Cornell, Marshall, Air Force, Dartmouth, Brevard, Campbell, Wofford, Texas Tech, North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Oregon, Samford, Michigan State, LaSalle, Guelph, Syracuse, Kent State, Toledo, Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa.), Boston Univ., Georgia State, Norfolk State, UNC Charlotte, Clemson, Radford, Emory, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Richmond, Eastern Ill., Loyola (Chicago), West Virginia, Portland, Tennessee Tech, Creighton, UC-Santa Barbara, UCLA, South Florida, Charleston Southern, Baylor, South Carolina, Virginia Tech Results; Will be available on the Furman website (see above), postrace at the Athletics Building, and via faxback. Call 201-461-5726 from the handset of your fax machine. Document numbers are as follows: j.v. boys and girls 2499, high school girls 2491, high school boys 2493, purple women's race 2467, silver women's race 2492, black men's race 2466, gold men's race 2468, unseeded women's race 2469, unseeded men's race 2490.
Re: t-and-f: NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational
Pre-Nats??? This looks like Nationals minus Arkansas and Wisconsin!!! A quick count reveals that only 7 men's and 4 women's teams ranked in the top 25 in the latest polls won't be there. Ranked teams that will be there: Men: 1, 2, 5, 8-11, 13-22, 24 Women: 1-6, 8,9, 11-13, 15-22, 24, 25 How much longer before Griak becomes the meet that qualifies you for the Pre-NCAA? :-) I think the qualifying system is much more fair than it was before the field was expanded, but at what cost? Many meets now suffer because schools prefer going to Pre-NCAA or Griak. For example: Murray Keating, Wolverine Interregional, Big Cross (Pasco, Wa), Central Collegiates, Paul Short, etc. And what about poor schools in the southeast district? They have to run at Furman for Districts as well. So probably half their races are on the same course. So is the Pre-NCAA idea a good one? I still think so, but would like to hear what others think. sideshow In a message dated Tue, 9 Oct 2001 5:21:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Info from Furman on this Saturday's NCAA Pre-Meet. Following is some crucial information on the NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational, slated for Saturday, Oct. 13, at the Furman Cross Country Course (on the Furman Golf Course). Schedule of Events 8:30 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Girls 5K 9:10 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Boys 5K 9:40 Furman Invitational Varsity Girls 5K 10:15 Furman Invitational Varsity Boys 5K 10:45 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Purple 6K 11:20 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Silver 6K 11:55 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Black 8K 12:35 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Gold 8K 1:15 Furman Invitational Men's 8K 2:00 Furman Invitational Women's 6K Teams that have been accepted into the NCAA Pre-Meet races will be announced Thursday at noon on the Furman website. The address is www.furmanpaladins.com. Please click on the NCAA Championships logo, scroll down to the results section, and click on the Furman Invitational/NCAA Pre-Meet link. There you will find links to the race fields for the pre-meet races. There will be two balanced women's pre-meet races (purple silver) and two balanced men's pre-meet races (black gold). All other teams, and all overflow individuals will be put into the Furman Invitational races. Each pre-meet race will have 37 teams and NO individuals. COMPLETE Collegiate Fields (Men): Stanford, Washington, Georgia Tech, Alabama, Virginia, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State, Texas, ETSU, UNC Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), Butler, Northern Iowa, Iowa, Youngstown State, Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, Colorado State, Marshall, Air Force, Brevard, Central Michigan, Dartmouth, Wofford, Cornell, Texas Tech, Oregon, North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Samford, Michigan State, LaSalle, Guelph, Missouri, Utah, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Furman, Villanova, Bucknell, Indiana, Life, Bethune Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, BYU, Indiana, Montreat, Elon, Princeton, College of Charleston, Belmont, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Western Kentucky, Radford, Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Cincinnati, Nofolk State, Eastern Michigan, New Mexico, Georgia, Florida, Weber State, Notre Dame, Winthrop, Davidson, Mercer, Lenoir Rhyne, Miami (Ohio), Clemson, Tennessee, Syracuse, Kent State, Toledo, Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa), UNC Charlotte, Emory, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Savannah State, Richmond, Eastern Illinois, Loyola (Chicago), Tennessee Tech, Ohio State, Creighton, The Citadel, UC-Santa Barbara, UCLA, Minnesota, South Florida, Charleston Southern, Baylor, Virginia Tech COMPLETE Collegiate Field (Women): Missouri, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Mississippi State, Furman, BYU, Villanova, Bucknell, IUPUI, Life, Tennessee, Bethune-Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, College of Charleston, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Minnesota, Western Kentucky, Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Elon, Princeton, New Mexico, Georgia, Weber State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Winthrop, Mercer, Pittsburg, Boston College, Lenoir-Rhyne, Yale, Stanford, Miami (Ohio), Columbia, Washington, Indiana, Georgia Tech, South Alabama, Virginia, Texas, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State, ETSU, Northwestern, UNC Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), Butler, Northern Iowa, Youngstown State, Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, Colorado State, Cornell, Marshall, Air Force, Dartmouth, Brevard, Campbell, Wofford, Texas Tech, North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Oregon, Samford, Michigan State, LaSalle, Guelph, Syracuse, Kent State, Toledo, Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa.), Boston Univ., Georgia State, Norfolk State, UNC Charlotte, Clemson, Radford, Emory, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Richmond, Eastern Ill., Loyola (Chicago), West Virginia, Portland, Tennessee Tech,
