t-and-f: Re: What's so good?

2005-08-14 Thread Roger Ruth
I'll tell you what's so good: As I've written more than once, it's the 
unparalled value of this list as a resource for information about our 
sport. As Dan, Mike, George and Walt have just demonstrated to me 
again, whatever question I might have about t-and-f events I'm 
unfamiliar with, all I have to do is ask and someone will provide the 
answer.


What's bad? If there's anything that has become disappointing about 
the list over the years, it's the decline in participation and 
especially in posting of results and interpretations of unexpected 
outcomes.


Today, when I checked with majordomo, there were 674 members on the 
list. I'm sure I can remember a time when there were more than two 
thousand, perhaps three thousand? Why the decline? Perhaps it's related 
to the reason for no longer posting results--with so many now having 
high-speed web access, it's easy to search out the results we're each 
interested in. Sometimes.


What else is bad? Anyone who has posted to the list in the last two 
years will know that immediately following receipt of the copy of the 
mailing, he/she will also receive a notification from mailer-daemon 
that: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:


john dixon,InterAct (The name was not found at the remote site. Check 
that

the name has been entered correctly.)

If our 673 current members still includes at least one supervisor, 
might it be possible to find a way to unsubscribe john dixon,Interact? 
Thanks.


Two last observations, this time on today's events. I know it's still 
considered to be bad taste to give results of events that will later be 
televised, so I won't comment on the women's marathon. For all those 
Canadians who don't want to know until they can watch the video on CBC 
at midnight: enjoy!


Maybe it's fair game, though, to wonder how the men's 5,000 meters has 
changed so very much over the years that of today's 15 finalists, none 
is from North America and only Marius Bakkus of Norway is from Europe. 
Pre, I hope you're not watching.




Re: t-and-f: Re: What's so good?

2005-08-14 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll tell you what's so good: As I've written more than once, it's the 
 unparalled value of this list as a resource for information about our 
 sport ... all I have to do is ask and someone will provide the answer.

I still consider it the best such resource, but it's more of an
encyclopedia these days than a steady discussion.  Got a question?  Send
it off to the list and some track savvy librarian dusts off the old books
and looks it up lickety split.  Too many other places to discuss things
and get instant results, but here is one place you don't have to sift
through the rubbish to get a straight answer.

 If our 673 current members still includes at least one supervisor, 
 might it be possible to find a way to unsubscribe john dixon,Interact? 

Here, here!

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Re: t-and-f: Re: What's so good?

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Duncan
I'll tell what else is so good...the absolutely WONDERFUL job that the
people at www.wcsn.com and Eurovision did with the World Championships
webcast.   I actually pretty much gave up on trying to watch the PAX-TV
daily summaries because they were just so inferior, even though they were
using the Eurovision feeds.  I started watching a bit of the PAX summary
today up until the the start of the men's 5000m and then I just gave up
because I knew what it would be like.  Hell, Dwight Stones does the best
with what they give him, though.  I'd like to hear his real thoughts on the
winning height in today's HJ.   But I never would've thought that Steve
Ovett would be such an excellent presenter, either.  I think Dwight should
just team up with those guys full-time and they would have a great broadcast
team.

They did a superb job with the marathon today...I watched every minute of it
today, didn't hit the fast forward once and it was worth every second of it.
Radcliffe put on a simply awesome display of strength and confidence but
Tomescu and Ndereba ran courageous, gutsy races.   The only thing which I
really missed were some post-event interviews.  But we can find them
elsewhere on the net, at least for that particular race.

One of the best things was the fact that since they covered everything, one
could see the utter joy on the faces of these athletes as they did their
laps of honor and the fact that they covered all of the medal ceremonies.
(Did everyone catch Drechsler and Frankie Fredricks today getting their
special awards, too?  That was great.)  I ended up not fast forwarding
through very much of these broadcasts because the actual action and the
presentation were well worth the extra time.

It is great to know that WCSN is going to cover the remaining Golden League
events, too.  This is the wave of the future for those of us in the USA who
are starved for decent international track and field coverage.

(If anyone has figured out how to capture these webcast files to the hard
drive, please email me.  I've tried a few of my tools to no avail so far.)

bob