t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel today June 8, 2004

2004-06-08 Thread Matthew Starr
1,500 metres
1. Alan Webb (U.S.) 3:32.73
2. Ivan Heshko (Ukraine) 3:32.88
3. Timothy Kiptanui (Kenya) 3:33.34

Pole vault
1. Stacy Dragila (U.S.) 4.83 - world record
2. Edda Elisdottir Thorey (Iceland) 4.40
3. Monika Pyrek (Poland) 4.40   

Long jump
1. Tatyna Kotova (Russia) 7.00
2. Tatyana Lebedeva (Russia) 6.91
3. Marion Jones (U.S.) 6.67




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Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel today June 8, 2004

2004-06-08 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Outdoor WR.

Matthew Starr wrote:

 1,500 metres
 1. Alan Webb (U.S.) 3:32.73
 2. Ivan Heshko (Ukraine) 3:32.88
 3. Timothy Kiptanui (Kenya) 3:33.34

 Pole vault
 1. Stacy Dragila (U.S.) 4.83 - world record
 2. Edda Elisdottir Thorey (Iceland) 4.40
 3. Monika Pyrek (Poland) 4.40

 Long jump
 1. Tatyna Kotova (Russia) 7.00
 2. Tatyana Lebedeva (Russia) 6.91
 3. Marion Jones (U.S.) 6.67






Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel

2004-06-08 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Matthew wrote that Stacy Dragila had set a new world record
in today's Grand Prix meet in Ostrava. Martin corrected that to Outdoor
WR.

I'm wondering whether, given current IAAF categories, there was any world
record at all.

Certainly, Stacy's 4.83 was the best outdoor vault, ever. However, when the
IAAF changed the world record rule to make THE World Record the best mark,
indoor or outdoor, I think I remember that they kept the category of World
Indoor Record (for instances where this mark was inferior to the outdoor
record), but didn't create a new category of World Outdoor Record (for
instances where this mark was inferior to the indoor record).

Whether Dragila set a new World Outdoor Record today, or just a world
outdoor best, might be of special interest to her, since the Grand Prix
circuit offers a substantial bonus for world record performances.

Maybe someone (Bob Hersh?) can set us straight on this.

Cheers, at least for Stacy!! Great comeback, after being overshadowed by
the Russian trio last year.


Outdoor WR.

 Pole vault
 1. Stacy Dragila (U.S.) 4.83 - world record
 2. Edda Elisdottir Thorey (Iceland) 4.40
 3. Monika Pyrek (Poland) 4.40

THE World Record progression since 2001, as I have it--

4.63Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-02-02  New York




4.64Svetlana Feofanova (RUS)2001-02-11  Dortmund




4.66Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-02-17  Pocatello




4.70Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-02-17  Pocatello




4.70Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-04-27  Pocatello




4.71Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-06-09  Palo Alto




4.81Stacy Dragila (USA) 2001-06-09  Palo Alto




4.82Yelena Isinbayeva (RUS) 2003-07-13  Gateshead




4.83Yelena Isinbayeva (RUS) 2004-02-15  Donetsk




4.85Svetlana Feofanova (RUS)2004-02-22  Athina




4.86Svetlana Feofanova (RUS)2004-03-06  Budapest

BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m converts
to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark that would
be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the women's
vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could appreciate. For the rest of the
world, the next mile-post (meter-post?) would have to wait for 5.00m; maybe
still a bit in the future.





Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel

2004-06-08 Thread Dave Cameron

--- Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m
 converts
 to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark
 that would
 be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the
 women's
 vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could appreciate. For the rest
 of the
 world, the next mile-post (meter-post?) would have to wait for
 5.00m; maybe
 still a bit in the future.

I can't do the calculation in my head; but this can't be right.  A
0.03 meter difference in height is probably around 1 inch, not 1
foot.  Can someone enlighten?  




=
Dave Cameron
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel

2004-06-08 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, I wrote:

 BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m converts
 to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark that would
 be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the women's
 vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could appreciate

Martin and Dave were quick to catch my error. 4.83m does, indeed, convert
to 15'10, not 14'10. Sorry 'bout that. After nearly 40 years in Canada,
this ex-Kansan still has problems with that metric stuff.

You can take the boy out of the farm, but you can't take the farm out of
the boy.

Cheers,
Roger