Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???
At 09:37 PM 12/31/01 -0500, you wrote: Dave Johnson wrote: At 5:01 PM -0500 31.12.2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, I was just reading the NJ Star Ledger and they had a story about how the lap counter at a meet did not ring the bell lap provoking the anchor leg on a HS DMR to run an extra lap. His 4-lap split was 4:23, and he was very annoyed that had the bell rang, he could've sprinted and maybe his team had a chance at the meet record (which they missed by mere seconds). I get very angry when things like this happens because the officials are there for a particular reason and they fail to (at times) realize it. In AAU competiton last year, I witnessed an official stop 3 consecutive 3,000m races a lap short! I can understand one, but 3!! He even went over to one of the participants, who was now at a water cooler, and informed her that she had an additional lap! What if she didn't advance? Another example occurred an indoor county meet in NJ, where the official physically prevented the runners from exchanging the baton and attempted to make them run an extra lap. Officials, pay attention to the track, PLEASE!! Larry A. Morgan, Sr. Elizabeth Heat TC As much as I sympathize with your identification of incompetency, I issue one warning: the only way to ultimately take care of the lap counting problem you identify is to become a lap counter yourself. I'm sure you can claim that you already spend enough time coaching, but there are many coaches who also officiate. And I've seen an awful lot of coaches who screwed up royally and then look for every whichway out of the pickle they've created by and for themselves. Don't get me wrong, meet directors, administrators, athletes and spectators (have I left anyone out?) screw up too. Just try watching a mile (or 1600m for Walt Murphy's sake) in their shoes. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I realize that another point is being made here but I was just told a few weeks ago that coaches are not allowed to officiate in Canada. I don't know if there are similar rules in the US. Regards, Martin In the far eastern provinces of Canada, NB NS in particular , almost all meets HAVE coaches officiating. Most meets would not even take place without the help of a coach or two with a tape measure , clipboard , stop watch or as the meet director. Peter Stuart Head Coach South-East Athletics Head Coach NB Canada Games Coach,Field Events, Universitie de Moncton NB Coaching Chair Master Course Conductor NB CSG web page http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/stuart/
Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, In AAU competiton last year, I witnessed an official stop 3 consecutive 3,000m races a lap short! I can understand one, but 3!! He even went over to one of the participants, who was now at a water cooler, and informed her that she had an additional lap! That's what you get for going to an AAU meet, an organization that should no longer be conducting track meets on any level. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx™ 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???
At 5:01 PM -0500 31.12.2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, I was just reading the NJ Star Ledger and they had a story about how the lap counter at a meet did not ring the bell lap provoking the anchor leg on a HS DMR to run an extra lap. His 4-lap split was 4:23, and he was very annoyed that had the bell rang, he could've sprinted and maybe his team had a chance at the meet record (which they missed by mere seconds). I get very angry when things like this happens because the officials are there for a particular reason and they fail to (at times) realize it. In AAU competiton last year, I witnessed an official stop 3 consecutive 3,000m races a lap short! I can understand one, but 3!! He even went over to one of the participants, who was now at a water cooler, and informed her that she had an additional lap! What if she didn't advance? Another example occurred an indoor county meet in NJ, where the official physically prevented the runners from exchanging the baton and attempted to make them run an extra lap. Officials, pay attention to the track, PLEASE!! Larry A. Morgan, Sr. Elizabeth Heat TC As much as I sympathize with your identification of incompetency, I issue one warning: the only way to ultimately take care of the lap counting problem you identify is to become a lap counter yourself. I'm sure you can claim that you already spend enough time coaching, but there are many coaches who also officiate. And I've seen an awful lot of coaches who screwed up royally and then look for every whichway out of the pickle they've created by and for themselves. Don't get me wrong, meet directors, administrators, athletes and spectators (have I left anyone out?) screw up too. Just try watching a mile (or 1600m for Walt Murphy's sake) in their shoes. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???
Dave Johnson wrote: At 5:01 PM -0500 31.12.2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, I was just reading the NJ Star Ledger and they had a story about how the lap counter at a meet did not ring the bell lap provoking the anchor leg on a HS DMR to run an extra lap. His 4-lap split was 4:23, and he was very annoyed that had the bell rang, he could've sprinted and maybe his team had a chance at the meet record (which they missed by mere seconds). I get very angry when things like this happens because the officials are there for a particular reason and they fail to (at times) realize it. In AAU competiton last year, I witnessed an official stop 3 consecutive 3,000m races a lap short! I can understand one, but 3!! He even went over to one of the participants, who was now at a water cooler, and informed her that she had an additional lap! What if she didn't advance? Another example occurred an indoor county meet in NJ, where the official physically prevented the runners from exchanging the baton and attempted to make them run an extra lap. Officials, pay attention to the track, PLEASE!! Larry A. Morgan, Sr. Elizabeth Heat TC As much as I sympathize with your identification of incompetency, I issue one warning: the only way to ultimately take care of the lap counting problem you identify is to become a lap counter yourself. I'm sure you can claim that you already spend enough time coaching, but there are many coaches who also officiate. And I've seen an awful lot of coaches who screwed up royally and then look for every whichway out of the pickle they've created by and for themselves. Don't get me wrong, meet directors, administrators, athletes and spectators (have I left anyone out?) screw up too. Just try watching a mile (or 1600m for Walt Murphy's sake) in their shoes. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I realize that another point is being made here but I was just told a few weeks ago that coaches are not allowed to officiate in Canada. I don't know if there are similar rules in the US. Regards, Martin
