t-and-f: Why Sully rules

2000-10-05 Thread Martin J. Dixon



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JUST A THOUGHT~~~[subject: why Kevin Sullivan rules] 
Hm.don't you find it interesting that with all the hoopla about 
theamount  of money that the Aussies are funnelling into amateur sport 
that theydidn't exactly shine in the endurance events of track, men's or 
women's, interms of winning medals. What gives? I'll tell you what 
gives.   With distance running, we're talking about arguably the 
most highly evolved and hence competitive events at the Olympic Games. 
Here's why: 1) Everyone in every country can participate relatively easily: 
this isn't a sport of means to the same extent as swimming, gymnastics, 
yachting) - this isn't a sport where facilities are nearly as 
necessary;2) this is a historic sport with over a century of male 
participation (vs. triathlon, synchronized diving );3) This is a sport 
where many other nations (e.g., Morocco, Italy, Japan) have, for several 
years directed considerable money to its athletes, facilities and, just as 
importantly, to its coaches; 4) this is a sport which is for all intents and 
purposes, the national sport of other countries (Kenya, Ethiopia) and which 
greatly fosters extraordinary high participation levels, talent 
identification, and its subsequent development.    These 
evolutionary factors are so formidable, it is my opinion that even real 
programs, such as Australia's, will require many years in my opinion before 
they can make up the competitive gap   And this is why I 
personally rate Mr. Kevin Sullivan's 5th place finish in the 1500 meters, in 
terms of absolute performance, well beyond any other Canadian performance, 
gold, or otherwise.    But just as Australia's great 1500 meter 
runner, Herb Elliot, was an "accident of nature" and individual 
inclinations, arising well before the days of financed programs in 
Australia, so is Kevin Sullivan. So was Bill Crothers. And so were a great 
many others who "accidentally" left the sport well before realizing their 
potentials. 


t-and-f: Why Sully Rules

2000-10-05 Thread Eckmann, Drew

4) this is a sport which is for all intents and purposes, the national sport

of other countries (Kenya, Ethiopia) and which greatly fosters extraordinary

high participation levels, talent identification, and its subsequent 
development. 

I'm not too knowledgeable about Ethiopia, but nothing could be further from
the truth about Kenya. Running/X-C/Track and Field is at best the fouth or
fifth most popular sport in Kenya, trailing soccer, boxing, cricket and even
horse racing. MOST people on the street would not recognize Paul Tergat if
he were standing next to them, and they most likely would not have heard of
someone of the stature of , say, Tom Nyariki. /Drew




Re: t-and-f: Why Sully rules

2000-10-05 Thread Dan Kaplan

I've never heard of Peter Pimm previously (that's a mouthful).  No
offense, but I can only hope his coaching is better than his logic...

--- "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An excerpt from Peter Pimm's latest newsletter is reprinted below.
>
> 1) Everyone in every country can participate relatively easily: this
> isn't a sport of means to the same extent as swimming, gymnastics,
> yachting) - this isn't a sport where facilities are nearly as necessary;

No arguement there.

> 2) this is a historic sport with over a century of male participation
> (vs. triathlon, synchronized diving );

Historic or otherwise, it only takes one person to excel in order to set a
trend.  I think that was sort of the point of the article this was
excerpted from?  Did Kenya have half a century of international experience
when Keino broke through?

> 3) This is a sport where many other nations (e.g., Morocco, Italy,
> Japan) have, for several years directed considerable money to its
> athletes, facilities and, just as importantly, to its coaches; 

Hmm, that certainly contradicts #1.

> 4) this is a sport which is for all intents and purposes, the national
> sport of other countries (Kenya, Ethiopia) and which greatly fosters
> extraordinary high participation levels, talent identification, and its
> subsequent development.

And that contradicts reports that soccer is the craze in Kenya, with
running being a distant second.
 
> These evolutionary factors are so formidable, it is my opinion that
> even real programs, such as Australia's, will require many years in my
> opinion before they can make up the competitive gap

Strange definition of evolutionary.  Economic might have been a better
choice of word.

Dan


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Re: t-and-f: Why Sully Rules

2000-10-05 Thread KUKIMBIA

In a message dated 10/5/00 2:40:17 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I'm not too knowledgeable about Ethiopia, but nothing could be further from
 the truth about Kenya. Running/X-C/Track and Field is at best the fouth or
 fifth most popular sport in Kenya, trailing soccer, boxing, cricket and even
 horse racing. MOST people on the street would not recognize Paul Tergat if
 he were standing next to them, and they most likely would not have heard of
 someone of the stature of , say, Tom Nyariki. /Drew
  >>

Drew is absolutely right.  Football (soccer) is number one in Kenya.  Give a 
Kenyan runner some free time and a soccer ball and you've got yourself a 
happy guy.  The other sports mentioned are also up there.  In fact, pick up a 
copy of the Standard or a similar publication and you're as likely to find a 
golf story headlining the sports section as you are to finding an athletics 
story.

Bruce Meyer
KUKIMBIA
 Chicago



Re: t-and-f: Why Sully Rules

2000-10-05 Thread eric kamau

As a Kenyan I can confirm that most people in Kenya would not recognize
Tergat but you would be suprised how many people would notice Patrick
Njiru( A local safari rally driver)


Eric kamau
Go cougs

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 10/5/00 2:40:17 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  
>  I'm not too knowledgeable about Ethiopia, but nothing could be further from
>  the truth about Kenya. Running/X-C/Track and Field is at best the fouth or
>  fifth most popular sport in Kenya, trailing soccer, boxing, cricket and even
>  horse racing. MOST people on the street would not recognize Paul Tergat if
>  he were standing next to them, and they most likely would not have heard of
>  someone of the stature of , say, Tom Nyariki. /Drew
>   >>
> 
> Drew is absolutely right.  Football (soccer) is number one in Kenya.  Give a 
> Kenyan runner some free time and a soccer ball and you've got yourself a 
> happy guy.  The other sports mentioned are also up there.  In fact, pick up a 
> copy of the Standard or a similar publication and you're as likely to find a 
> golf story headlining the sports section as you are to finding an athletics 
> story.
> 
> Bruce Meyer
> KUKIMBIA
>  Chicago
>