Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-07 Thread Gmail
Fernando, if you really were to implement a style, chances are you'd prefer 
filter the data once for schools of the primary educational system, without 
bothering for explicitely filtering out all possible additional tags for any 
other kind of 'schools'.
Yves


Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com a écrit :
I agree with Martin. If I were implementing a map renderer, it would be
far
easier to treat categorized things (such as school and restaurant)
using
the same visual style and same icon, instead of specifying each
possible
variation separately (I would need to know all possible values in that
category and the app would definitely miss any new values until I
manage to
update it again). Same thing if I were implementing a POI menu in a
navigation app. Same if I were compiling a list of places to print down
(this way it easily transforms into a nice hierarchical index).

And I don't see why this tagging style would prevent anyone from
searching
for a Chinese restaurant: just search for amenity=restaurant +
cuisine=chinese instead of amenity=chinese_restaurant. Similarly for
language schools.

So my vote goes for either:
- amenity=school + (if not a regular school) training={driving,
language,
music, cram, etc.} ( should work with practically all major
applications); or
- amenity=education + education={kindergarten, school, college,
university,
driving, language, music, cram, etc.}

And definitely against amenity=driving_school, amenity=language_school,
amenity=cram_school, amenity=business_school, amenity=computer_school,
amenity=photography_school, amenity=dance_school, etc.

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:


 2013/9/6 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com

 Two big counter-examples to your argument are restaurants and places
of
 worship:  If I'm looking for a [Chinese restaurant or Catholic
church] I
 am not interested in finding also a [pizza restaurant or Synagogue]



 yes, but still it would be a restaurant or a place of worship, while
a
 language school has very few in common with a skiing school or a
driving
 school.


 school546360
 driving_school3851



 these two are also documented, something we should try for the rest
as
 well.



 preschool225



 not a school IMHO ;-)

 ...


 And it goes on like that with things like cooking, dog, aviation,
sailing,
 art, etc schools.  So if this seems like the way forward, it would at
least
 be good to document a list of values people can refer to.


 +1, documentation is desirable, not sure if a common list does make a
lot
 of sense. Would you also include a school of dolphins? ;-) Sorry
for the
 groaner, but what I intend is that only because part of the word is
 school doesn't necessarily mean that they belong to the same group
of
 stuff.

 cheers,
 Martin

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Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


Am 07/set/2013 um 09:32 schrieb Gmail yve...@gmail.com:

 Fernando, if you really were to implement a style, chances are you'd prefer 
 filter the data once for schools of the primary educational system, without 
 bothering for explicitely filtering out all possible additional tags for any 
 other kind of 'schools'.


+1, 
@Fernando: actually you don't agree with me, I was advocating for the opposite 
;-)

cheers,
Martin
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