[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
mailing list

 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

Greetings,

Vincent
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

(1)
Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
getting
notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?

"Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new proposals
on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done

Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
> mailing list
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top right, 
you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.

That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals (RFC) 
and votes. 
Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
website URL like: 
https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss

Greetings,
Vincent



24 sep. 2022 10:51 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

> (1)
> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
> getting
> notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?
>
> "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
> proposals
> on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done
>
> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
>> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
>> mailing list
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>>
>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

Is it about 
"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
option in account settings?

Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.

What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
email assigned to my OSM account 
(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)

I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.

Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top 
> right, you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.
>
> That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals (RFC) 
> and votes. 
>
> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
> website URL like: 
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>
> Greetings,
> Vincent
>
>
>
> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>
>> (1)
>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
>> getting
>> notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?
>>
>> "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
>> proposals
>> on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>>
>>> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
>>> mailing list
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>>>
>>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Yves via Tagging]

There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
Yves 

Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
 a écrit :
>How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?
>
>Is it about 
>"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
>or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
>option in account settings?
>
>Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.
>
>What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
>email assigned to my OSM account 
>(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)
>
>I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
>without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.
>
>Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
>> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top 
>> right, you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.
>>
>> That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals (RFC) 
>> and votes. 
>>
>> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
>> website URL like: 
>> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van 
>> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>>
>>> (1)
>>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
>>> getting
>>> notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?
>>>
>>> "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
>>> proposals
>>> on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done
>>>
>>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>>>
 Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
 mailing list

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

 Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

 Greetings,

 Vincent

>>>
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
to avoid missing RFC/vote.

Right now it is working for me and I am unwilling to lose it.


Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by y...@mailbox.org:

> There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
> Yves 
>
> Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  a écrit :
>
>> How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?
>>
>> Is it about 
>> "Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
>> or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
>> option in account settings?
>>
>> Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.
>>
>> What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
>> email assigned to my OSM account 
>> (I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)
>>
>> I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
>> without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>>
>>> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top 
>>> right, you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.
>>>
>>> That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals 
>>> (RFC) and votes. 
>>>
>>> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
>>> website URL like: 
>>> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van 
>>> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>>>
 (1)
 Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, 
 without getting
 notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?

 "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
 proposals
 on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done

 Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
> mailing list
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>


>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Robin Burek]

Am 24.09.2022 um 19:19 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:

How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

Is it about
"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
option in account settings?
Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.


Well, Discourse primarily informs you in the "activity bar" (behind your
profile icon on the top right).
If you follow a topic/category/tag, then each new post will also appear
there in the overview.
What you can enable now is that these "push notifications" will be sent
to you directly via mail.
In fact, this is not much spammier than the default.



What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
email assigned to my OSM account
(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)

I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.

This would be something that would have to be passed on to the
appropriate places or you would just have to set up forwarding
rules. I think that is already a special request.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[yvecai via Tagging]

From your settings, you can suscribe to notiifcations about a 
particular tag, here this would be 'tagging'.
A 'Tagging' category (that you can also suscribe too) could  be 
requested to the admins.


Yves

On 24.09.22 20:04, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:

My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
to avoid missing RFC/vote.

Right now it is working for me and I am unwilling to lose it.


Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by y...@mailbox.org:

There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
Yves

Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via
Tagging  a écrit :

How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

Is it about
"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags
or topics"
option in account settings?

Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.

What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
email assigned to my OSM account
(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)

I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.

Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that
tag. On the top right, you see a bell icon. There you can
select to get emails.

That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on
all proposals (RFC) and votes.

Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and
add .rss to the website URL like:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss

Greetings,
Vincent



24 sep. 2022 10:51 van
tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

(1)
Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get
notifications via email, without getting
notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?

"Using simple rss or email notifications, people can
subscribe to new proposals
on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear
how it can be done

Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

Require proposal announcements to be made on the
new forum instead of the mailing list


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

Greetings,

Vincent






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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Can I get email notifications
- about new topics in particular tag,
- without getting other email notifications
- with notifications directed to specific email, not one used for OSM 
registartion
?

Sep 24, 2022, 20:42 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> From your settings, you can suscribe to  notiifcations about a particular 
> tag, here this would be  'tagging'.
> A 'Tagging' category (that you can also  suscribe too) could  be 
> requested to the admins.
>
> Yves
>
> On 24.09.22 20:04, Mateusz Konieczny  via Tagging wrote:
>
>> My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
>> to avoid missing RFC/vote.
>>
>> Right now it is working for me and I am unwillingto lose it.
>>
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by >> y...@mailbox.org>> :
>>
>>> There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
>>> Yves 
>>>
>>> Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, MateuszKonieczny via 
>>> Tagging >>>  
>>> >>
 How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

 Is it about 
 "Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my  @username is 
 mentioned,
 or when there is new activity in my watched  categories, tags 
 or topics"
 option in account settings?

 Because that seems more spammy than tagging  mailing list.

 What worse, I cannot assign a separate email  account from
 email assigned to my OSM account 
 (I have a separate account just for mailing  lists due to 
 volume)

 I see there "Email can be updated from  authentication 
 provider."
 without option to set a different one for  Discourse 
 notifications.

 Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by  tagging@openstreetmap.org :

> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics withthat 
> tag. On the top right, you see a bell icon. Thereyou can 
> select to get emails.
>
> That is why I proposed to use the tag"wiki-proposal" on 
> all proposals (RFC) and votes. 
>
> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed.Click on a tag and 
> add .rss to the website URL like: 
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>
> Greetings,
> Vincent
>
>
>
> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van > 
> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co> :
>
>> (1)
>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to  get 
>> notifications via email, without getting
>> notified about for example postings in  talk-de subforum?
>>
>> "Using simple rss or email  notifications, people can 
>> subscribe to new proposals
>> on the community." is mentioned but it  is not clear how 
>> it can be done
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by >> tagging@openstreetmap.org>> :
>>
>>> Require proposal announcements to be made on thenew 
>>> forum instead of the mailing list
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>>>
>>> Please discuss this proposal on itsWiki Talk page.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

1 and 2) yes. Select a tag, for example: 
https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging and click the bell icon. There 
you have several options about the intensity of notifications. You can for 
example follow everything, topics and comments. You can for example get a 
notification about new topics. You can then follow the topics individually you 
would like to follow. And there are more options so I would say choice enough.

3) Not really as far as I know. You could setup an email rule to filter these 
RFC and votes out. While I understand that you have a certain system to keep 
track of the mailing list, you can't except a new system to be the exact same 
as the old system. With 1 and 2, you can come quite close to what I think would 
be a workable situation. Every system has their pros and cons.

Greetings,
Vincent




24 sep. 2022 21:44 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

> Can I get email notifications
> - about new topics in particular tag,
> - without getting other email notifications
> - with notifications directed to specific email, not one used for OSM 
> registartion
> ?
>
> Sep 24, 2022, 20:42 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
>> From your settings, you can suscribe to  notiifcations about a 
>> particular tag, here this would be  'tagging'.
>> A 'Tagging' category (that you can also  suscribe too) could  be 
>> requested to the admins.
>>
>> Yves
>>
>> On 24.09.22 20:04, Mateusz Konieczny  via Tagging wrote:
>>
>>> My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
>>> to avoid missing RFC/vote.
>>>
>>> Right now it is working for me and I am unwillingto lose it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by >>> y...@mailbox.org>>> :
>>>
 There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
 Yves 

 Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, MateuszKonieczny via 
 Tagging   
   aécrit :

> How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?
>
> Is it about 
> "Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my  @username is 
> mentioned,
> or when there is new activity in my watched  categories, tags 
> or topics"
> option in account settings?
>
> Because that seems more spammy than tagging  mailing list.
>
> What worse, I cannot assign a separate email  account from
> email assigned to my OSM account 
> (I have a separate account just for mailing  lists due to 
> volume)
>
> I see there "Email can be updated from  authentication 
> provider."
> without option to set a different one for  Discourse 
> notifications.
>
> Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by > tagging@openstreetmap.org> :
>
>> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics withthat 
>> tag. On the top right, you see a bell icon. Thereyou can 
>> select to get emails.
>>
>> That is why I proposed to use the tag"wiki-proposal" on 
>> all proposals (RFC) and votes. 
>>
>> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed.Click on a tag and 
>> add .rss to the website URL like: 
>> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van >> 
>> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co>> :
>>
>>> (1)
>>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to  get 
>>> notifications via email, without getting
>>> notified about for example postings in  talk-de 
>>> subforum?
>>>
>>> "Using simple rss or email  notifications, people can 
>>> subscribe to new proposals
>>> on the community." is mentioned but it  is not clear 
>>> how it can be done
>>>
>>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by >>> tagging@openstreetmap.org>>> :
>>>
 Require proposal announcements to be made on the
 new forum instead of the mailing list

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

 Please discuss this proposal on itsWiki Talk page.

 Greetings,

 Vincent

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>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

I have made changes to the proposal. 

I tried to clarify some things because the proposal is smaller then it seemed 
at first. I don't force people to discuss on the forum, nor does the current 
proposal process require discussion on the mailing list. The recommended 
discussion place is and stays the wiki's talk page. I only change the medium 
where you have to announce a RFC or vote. 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
 .

Greetings,
Vincent


24 sep. 2022 09:34 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
> mailing list
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Minh Nguyen]

Vào lúc 11:04 2022-09-24, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging đã viết:

My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
to avoid missing RFC/vote.


By the way, the wiki also has tools for keeping track of RfCs and votes 
under way. For example, you can track recent changes to any proposal 
page that says it's under way. [1] This page can be filtered to just the 
latest revision of each page, or just pages that are or aren't on your 
watchlist. There's also an RSS feed. Special:RecentChangesLinked can do 
this for inbound links to any page on the wiki.


It isn't the same as getting an invitation to participate in a vote 
delivered to your inbox, but on-wiki solutions are also worth 
investigating for those who don't subscribe to the lists for various 
reasons. The DynamicPageList extension would enable us to maintain a 
feed of new proposals without any maintenance overhead [2], but in the 
meantime, maybe someone would be interested in maintaining one manually 
as part of the main page's "News" section?


[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Proposed_features_under_way

[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#DynamicPageList_extension

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