[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread OSM user
Hello!
Please, look at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory .
I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of
some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there
are addresses name of territory, number of house).
   User Dinamik

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/25 OSM user o...@fizik.spb.ru:
 Hello!
 Please, look at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory .
 I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of
 some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there
 are addresses name of territory, number of house).


What about addr:housename and addr:full ?

Cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
OSM user o...@fizik.spb.ru wrote:

 Hello!
 Please, look at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory .
 I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of
 some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there
 are addresses name of territory, number of house).
User Dinamik
 
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It seems likely to me that some very small communities might lack a house 
number as well; if the community is small enough for everyone to know everyone 
else, a given house might well be described only in terms of the village name 
and the name of the residents.  However, this would seem to be a matter for 
renderers and data-validation routines, rather than requiring a new tag.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread OSM user
I have address Big town, Good Place, 1. How do you suppose to write
it into OSM to show software, that there is no street with name Good
Place and there is no a mistake?
For example, in one town Good Place is territorial zone, and in
another town we have street Good Place - how can we see, that in first
case we shouldn't find street with name Good Place and there is no
losing street and we should find street with name Good Place in second
case and there is a mistake?

2011/7/25 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
 OSM user o...@fizik.spb.ru wrote:

 Hello!
 Please, look at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory .
 I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of
 some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there
 are addresses name of territory, number of house).
    User Dinamik

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 It seems likely to me that some very small communities might lack a house 
 number as well; if the community is small enough for everyone to know 
 everyone else, a given house might well be described only in terms of the 
 village name and the name of the residents.  However, this would seem to be a 
 matter for renderers and data-validation routines, rather than requiring a 
 new tag.

 --
 John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
 Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
 think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread Willi
OSM user [mailto:o...@fizik.spb.ru] wrote on 25. July 2011 06:47

 Hello!
 Please, look at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory .
 I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of
 some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there
 are addresses name of territory, number of house).
User Dinamik

Why not use addr:province, addr:district and subdistrict? 
They provide a hierarchy of areas below country level using well established
terms: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr.

The term territory is rather unspecific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territory

Willi


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread OSM user
1) Terms province, district, subdistrict are not sufficient for
all cases. For example, in Russia there is a term territorial zone -
it is not a province, district and subdisctrict, it is term, which is
used in addresses of some houses.
2) Even address contain province, district or subdistrict, we have
problem with mistakes checkers (people think, that losing addr:street
is mistake, software too).
3) I don't insist on term territory: we can use any another
analogous term, for example, area.
4) We should have a possibility to mark, that address doesn't contain
street (1) we can't write addr:street=no, because rendereres will
think, that we have street with name no; if we write addr:street=no,
where should we write the name of territorial unit?

2011/7/25 Willi wil...@gmx.de:
 OSM user [mailto:o...@fizik.spb.ru] wrote on 25. July 2011 06:47

 Hello!
 Please, look at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory .
 I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of
 some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there
 are addresses name of territory, number of house).
    User Dinamik

 Why not use addr:province, addr:district and subdistrict?
 They provide a hierarchy of areas below country level using well established
 terms:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr.

 The term territory is rather unspecific:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territory

 Willi


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