Re: [Tagging] How about a Fork? Re: The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag
Am 08.06.2018 um 11:53 schrieb marc marc: > Le 08. 06. 18 à 11:34, Rory McCann a écrit : >> Replicate data from OSM, applying your data transformation programme > it's already what nearly all use of osm is doing. > it's named "preprocessor" or alias > it's waste that nearly all data use need to build their own list. > You are assuming that the data consumers doing pre-processing could/would agree on a specific way to normalize the data. I envision very long discussions on the "normalizing" mailing list bike sheding what landuse=forest should be mapped to :-). Seriously, in a such attribute rich dataset as OSM, normalizing is never going to go away for data consumers and wouldn't go away even if we had a tagging czar and a completely regular tagging scheme. It would be nice if going forward we don't create more "weird" stuff, but I think that in general is the case. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How about a Fork? Re: The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag
W dniu 08.06.2018 o 11:34, Rory McCann pisze: > Yes it takes a lot of work, but what you're proposing is going to take > work anyway, so why not try? Well, you've said it - because it's a lot of work. :-) It would be much easier to set up an alternative rendering server with an trivial osm-carto fork. That would help to spread the new tagging. It's still a lot of work, though. -- "My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple] ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How about a Fork? Re: The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag
On Friday 08 June 2018, Rory McCann wrote: > > One way to try this could be to fork OSM? It's open data, go for it. > As unlikely as it is that this will actually happen yes, this would be a very good idea. As Frederik has said there were projects competing with OSM following a more centralized, more heavy handed approach - but most of them vanished. Having an alternative where those who are not satisfied with the laissez-faire approach of OSM can find a place would be very healthy - even if, especially if this turns into a serious competition. In a way the worst thing that could happen to OSM in the long term is that it becomes 'alternativlos' to both data users and contributors. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How about a Fork? Re: The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag
Le 08. 06. 18 à 11:34, Rory McCann a écrit : > Replicate data from OSM, applying your data transformation programme it's already what nearly all use of osm is doing. it's named "preprocessor" or alias it's waste that nearly all data use need to build their own list. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] How about a Fork? Re: The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag
On 08/06/18 01:29, EthnicFood IsGreat wrote: I wouldn't mind if all the existing tags were replaced tomorrow with a brand new set of "intelligently-designed" keys. And I wouldn't mind if these keys were enforced from now on. And I wouldn't mind that I would have to relearn all the tagging I now know. Yes, it would be a "brave new world," and not the OSM we know now. Someone some time ago on one of the OSM mailing lists summed up the current situation by stating, "It seems OSM is incapable of moving forward." Unless we ever have more structure, I agree. One way to try this could be to fork OSM? It's open data, go for it. Set up a new project, and import the OSM data, and mass change the tags? Replicate data from OSM, applying your data transformation programme automatically? People can choose to contribute data to your project. You can provide data downloads where data users can know that it's structured. If your project is successful, then enough of the OSM community will move there and you'll "win". Yes it takes a lot of work, but what you're proposing is going to take work anyway, so why not try? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
