Re: [Tagging] How can I tag which lane has tram tracks?

2020-07-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Jul 7, 2020, 02:15 by ja...@piorkowski.ca:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 15:56, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
>  wrote:
>
>> I guess that something similar to
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Crossing_with_a_designated_lane_for_bicycles
>> would fit.
>>
>> For example for road that has:
>>
>> - tram-free lane
>> - lane with tram tracks
>> - lane with tram tracks in an opposite direction
>> - tram-free lane in an opposite direction
>>
>> could be tagged
>>
>> tram:lanes:forward=designated|none
>> tram:lanes:backward=designated|none
>>
>
> I'm not sure - does this add something that embedded_rails:lanes=*
> does not specify?
>
embedded_rails:lanes would fit exactly what I want! Thanks!
I was unaware that this variation of this tag exists already.
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Re: [Tagging] How can I tag which lane has tram tracks?

2020-07-06 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 20:15, Jarek Piórkowski  wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 15:56, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
>  wrote:
> > ...
> > tram:lanes:forward=designated|none
> > tram:lanes:backward=designated|none
> ...
> Looks like tram:lanes variations have around 1100 uses right now,
> embedded_rails variations around 5700 uses. I'm actually not sure if
> they mean something different?

I'm sorry, I realized I got the use count comparison wrong because I
included the non-lane-specific embedded_rails tags.

* embedded_rails:lanes plus embedded_rails:lanes:both_ways plus
embedded_rails:lanes:backward plus embedded_rails:lanes:forward is
used 610 times

* tram:lanes plus tram:lanes:forward plus tram:lanes:backward is used
1035 times - so more

I've not really seen tram:lanes tagging before, how is it used?

Looks like a substantial amount of the uses is tram:lanes:forward=yes
(364 uses) and tram:lanes:backward=yes (317) - mostly on two-lane
streets in Helsinki? tram:lanes:forward=designated|none would indeed
fit that schema.

--Jarek

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Re: [Tagging] How can I tag which lane has tram tracks?

2020-07-06 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 15:56, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
 wrote:
> I guess that something similar to
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Crossing_with_a_designated_lane_for_bicycles
> would fit.
>
> For example for road that has:
>
> - tram-free lane
> - lane with tram tracks
> - lane with tram tracks in an opposite direction
> - tram-free lane in an opposite direction
>
> could be tagged
>
> tram:lanes:forward=designated|none
> tram:lanes:backward=designated|none

I'm not sure - does this add something that embedded_rails:lanes=*
does not specify?

If you have the tram tracks already mapped as their own ways, I'd just
do embedded_rails:lanes=|tram|tram| on the street way.

Looks like tram:lanes variations have around 1100 uses right now,
embedded_rails variations around 5700 uses. I'm actually not sure if
they mean something different?

Actually I guess they might since there's some abandoned tracks here
(e.g. https://osm.org/way/553562816 + https://osm.org/way/553562815 )
where embedded rails still exist but trams don't have a legal access
(or physical access), so strictly speaking the street way would be
embedded_rails:lanes=|tram|tram + tram:lanes:forward=|no|no... but I'm
not sure if that's what you meant?

--Jarek

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[Tagging] How can I tag which lane has tram tracks?

2020-07-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I guess that something similar to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Crossing_with_a_designated_lane_for_bicycles
would fit.

For example for road that has:

- tram-free lane
- lane with tram tracks
- lane with tram tracks in an opposite direction
- tram-free lane in an opposite direction

could be tagged

tram:lanes:forward=designated|none
tram:lanes:backward=designated|none
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