[Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Georg]

Hi Mateusz,

in your edit
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aman_made%3Dwater_tap&type=revision&diff=2408821&oldid=2112133
you added the sentence

> For working one additional tags fitting it would be ...

I don't really get the meaning 🤷‍♂️ Could you word it differently or
explain and let me look for a wording? Thank you 🙂



As you're very active in the wiki: Do we have a template (in the meaning
as in Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer) for _the full wiki page_
describing a key/tag/value? I did only find templates in the MediaWiki
sense, so {{something}}, but not the whole page including typical
sections etc.

Best regards,
Georg

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Sep 30, 2022, 15:13 by georg2...@nurfuerspam.de:

> Hi Mateusz,
>
> in your edit
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aman_made%3Dwater_tap&type=revision&diff=2408821&oldid=2112133
> you added the sentence
>
>> For working one additional tags fitting it would be ...
>>
>
> I don't really get the meaning 🤷‍♂️ Could you word it differently or
> explain and let me look for a wording? Thank you 🙂
>
I meant that one that is pure decoration and not active and
not giving water will not qualify for this extra tags

Do you have an idea how to better phrase it?

> As you're very active in the wiki: Do we have a template (in the meaning
> as in Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer) for _the full wiki page_
> describing a key/tag/value? I did only find templates in the MediaWiki
> sense, so {{something}}, but not the whole page including typical
> sections etc.
>
maybe
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creating_a_page_describing_key_or_value
will help

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Two more questions re the wiki.

" A water tap is a man-made construction providing access to water, *supplied
by centralized water distribution system*" - how about taps connected to
rain-water tanks? That part of that sentence should be deleted.

&

" Note that fountain =
bubbler 
providing tiny upward jet of water is not considered as a water tap"

I disagree with that completely. In regard to a water tap, there's no
difference if the water comes out downwards, upwards or straight out! It is
still a device for providing drinking water.

Thanks

Graeme


On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 23:30, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
>
>
> Sep 30, 2022, 15:13 by georg2...@nurfuerspam.de:
>
> Hi Mateusz,
>
> in your edit
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aman_made%3Dwater_tap&type=revision&diff=2408821&oldid=2112133
> you added the sentence
>
> For working one additional tags fitting it would be ...
>
>
> I don't really get the meaning 🤷‍♂️ Could you word it differently or
> explain and let me look for a wording? Thank you 🙂
>
> I meant that one that is pure decoration and not active and
> not giving water will not qualify for this extra tags
>
> Do you have an idea how to better phrase it?
>
> As you're very active in the wiki: Do we have a template (in the meaning
> as in Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer) for _the full wiki page_
> describing a key/tag/value? I did only find templates in the MediaWiki
> sense, so {{something}}, but not the whole page including typical
> sections etc.
>
> maybe
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creating_a_page_describing_key_or_value
> will help
>
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mike Thompson]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 4:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> Two more questions re the wiki.
>
> " A water tap is a man-made construction providing access to water, *supplied
> by centralized water distribution system*" - how about taps connected to
> rain-water tanks? That part of that sentence should be deleted.
>
Agree it should be deleted or at least modified.  A tap could be supplied
by a local well for example. In fact, it may not be obvious how a tap is
supplied by just looking at it.

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[stevea]

I'll go this:  "A water tap is a human-made construction providing access to 
potable water" and leave out "supplied by centralized water distribution 
system."  That might be "a bucket near the roof of this building."  Honestly, I 
think it helps to connote "with a handy, accessible, user-friendly valve" soon 
after.  Emphasis on potable, drinkable, usable water, right now, like many 
humans enjoy what we mean today by indoor, "running water."  (Even as this 
fixture might be a raw, brass bib outdoors, where you might connect a garden 
hose, but it's still a water tap, as is the drinking fountain at the football 
pitch).  You might spray one of these up to your lips, you might wash your 
hands in it or use it to draw water into your hydration bottle for later.  
There are quite a few different kinds of these.

Words are powerful.  That's what "water tap" means to me.

It's still unclear to me where best (now, tomorrow) to discuss such topics, 
wiki Talk, here, other...  I figure as long as I say my thing no more than 
once, I'm OK.  Please let me know if I'm off there.  I do consume and 
participate in multiple media, as I think many or all of do to some degree, we 
don't always overlap "neatly."
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Oct 1, 2022, 00:43 by graemefi...@gmail.com:

> "Note that > fountain > => 
> bubbler >  
> providing tiny upward jet of water is not considered as a water tap"
>
> I disagree with that completely. In regard to a water tap, there's no 
> difference if the water comes out downwards, upwards or straight out! It is 
> still a device for providing drinking water.
>

I would not  expect https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker.

How you would then distinguish
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
and
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg

(upward tiny flow vs downward flow that basically always is more significant)
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[stevea]

As a native speaker (though US English, not "the King's" or RP), a "bubbler" 
(what we Yanks call "drinking fountain") is a water tap.

Some of these "aim at our lips," some of them are "better suited in a downward 
direction, perhaps for hand-washing, perhaps for drawing into a hydration 
bottle...".  Both are water taps, hey, maybe water_tap as a value.

To me, it feels like "we either close or there," as I see a great deal of 
agreement, here.  I haven't heard a wider chime-in to my emphasis on "potable" 
(drinkable, if you prefer) but I think many of us mean that with a water_tap, 
even if we don't say it, I think we should.
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:01, Mike Thompson  wrote:

>
> Agree it should be deleted or at least modified.
>

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:19, stevea  wrote:

> I'll go this:  "A water tap is a human-made construction providing access
> to potable water" and leave out "supplied by centralized water distribution
> system."


Yep, we're in agreement there.

How about "water bubblers"? Are they also a tap?


> It's still unclear to me where best (now, tomorrow) to discuss such
> topics, wiki Talk, here, other...


Yep! Many times I've asked questions on various wikis, some of which have
only been modified in the last month or so, so still well & truly active, &
never had a response? Discord is (usually) OK for a quick answer to How do
I ..., but a problem I sometimes notice there is that I'm asking questions
during the Australian day, which is middle of the night in Europe & US!
Tagging still, atm, seems the best place for in-depth discussions, although
Discourse "may" replace it?

 Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> I would not  expect https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
> to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker.
>

Yes, quite definitely a water tap!

How you would then distinguish
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
> and
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg
>

I wouldn't! I'd call them both a tap.


> (upward tiny flow vs downward flow that basically always is more
> significant)
>

For the purpose of a water tap, the amount of flow is basically irrelevant,
just so long as you can get water from it as required.

Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:37, stevea  wrote:

> I haven't heard a wider chime-in to my emphasis on "potable" (drinkable,
> if you prefer) but I think many of us mean that with a water_tap, even if
> we don't say it, I think we should.
>

I'm not sure if we should define that all taps are automatically potable /
drinkable.

I see a lot of taps in parks etc that are tagged as non-potable, because
they use recycled water.

Maybe leave that as water_tap + drinking_water=yes?

Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mike Thompson]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 5:53 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:37, stevea  wrote:
>
>> I haven't heard a wider chime-in to my emphasis on "potable" (drinkable,
>> if you prefer) but I think many of us mean that with a water_tap, even if
>> we don't say it, I think we should.
>>
>
> I'm not sure if we should define that all taps are automatically potable /
> drinkable.
>
Agree.  Sometimes the water is just for animals (e.g. horses), there are
also water taps that supply water for washing out the holding tanks on RVs
and that water isn't potable.
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[stevea]

With those, no need to say potable/drinkable, yeah.  I do see signs that say 
"using recycled water" or "not drinkable, use for radiator only" signs (fewer 
of the latter, but I do recall those from decades ago).  This might be marked 
with a "do not drink" glyph / red circle-with-slash over a human drinking, too.

So, yeah, a tap might be only for "golf course irrigation only," for example, 
and unfit for drinking.

Thanks for the additional inputs.

> On Sep 30, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 5:53 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:


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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Brian M. Sperlongano]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 7:45 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> How about "water bubblers"? Are they also a tap?
>

Ah yes, the "bubbler".

For those that don't live in Rhode Island, or one specific part of
Wisconsin, "bubbler" is a word that we use for what's called a "water
fountain" in other parts of the US.  The history of this is that once upon
a time, the Kohler company (the one that makes faucets and so forth)
manufactured the first outdoor water fountain, and named this invention the
"bubbler".  For reasons probably lost in history, these Kohler Bubblers
were first installed in those two locations and locals there referred to
them as bubblers from thereon out.  As other manufacturers made other water
fountain fixtures, "everywhere else" just called them water fountains.

I was probably in high school before I learned what a "water fountain"
was...
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[stevea]

Maybe it's west coast / east coast, but I hear "drinking fountain," and maybe 
I'm hearing more-often in Rhode Island "water fountain."  That latter, to my 
California ear, is a broad category that does include "bubblers" (to spray up 
at your lips and you take a drink right now) but "water fountain" (more often, 
simply "fountain") also includes the fountain at the urban street park that 
people dart in and out of on a hot day.  Or, the lit, synchronized ones at big 
Las Vegas resorts.  And again, not fire hydrants.

Not the jets on water park slide / rides, though.  Those aren't "fountains."

There are those "umbrella-shaped things" that spray water in water parks, too, 
I WOULD call those "fountain," of a certain, specific sort.  (I think Minh had 
a discussion about these somewhere...).  I wouldn't call most fountains a 
water_tap, to get back to it.  But what I call a "drinking fountain" and 
UK/Aussies call a bubbler and what Brian in Rhode Island calls a "water 
fountain" (and I've heard that, as I've heard bubbler, too) are not THOSE kind 
of "fountain."  Ugh, language, sometimes.

Peel back just a layer or three on this onion and it gets fairly rich pretty 
fast!

There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as drinking 
fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in the park or Las Vegas), 
there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the same page about these?!  Good 
discussion so far!
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea  wrote:
> 
> There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as drinking 
> fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in the park or Las 
> Vegas), there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the same page about these?!  
> Good discussion so far!


there is also a whole tagging scheme for all of this.

amenity=drinking_water
fountain=drinking/bubbler/…
drinking_water=yes/no/…
man_made=water_tap
amenity=watering_place
amenity=fountain 
…

the tags can be combined to get to a useful description.

FWIW, the water tap tag is often used for water that is not potable (because 
otherwise the standard is amenity=drinking_water

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[stevea]

Some of this I know, some of this we (maybe now) know better because of your 
sharpening of focus.  Thanks, Martin!  That's a nice, rich list of six separate 
tags that mean six separate things.  Related, many can agree, sometimes 
sensibly combined, though often not.

> On Sep 30, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  
> wrote:
> there is also a whole tagging scheme for all of this.
> …
> the tags can be combined to get to a useful description.

Very much agree, we can use "one or more" to be specific.  Or not.

> FWIW, the water tap tag is often used for water that is not potable (because 
> otherwise the standard is amenity=drinking_water

Agreed, that is the "potable tag" I know best, thanks for saying that's true 
for you, too.
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Added "no drinking" water tap example at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap#Examples

(if someone has a better photo: feel free to replace this example, water
tap is not well visible there

or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably already
uploaded to Wikimedia Commons
)


Oct 1, 2022, 02:07 by stevea...@softworkers.com:

> With those, no need to say potable/drinkable, yeah.  I do see signs that say 
> "using recycled water" or "not drinkable, use for radiator only" signs (fewer 
> of the latter, but I do recall those from decades ago).  This might be marked 
> with a "do not drink" glyph / red circle-with-slash over a human drinking, 
> too.
>
> So, yeah, a tap might be only for "golf course irrigation only," for example, 
> and unfit for drinking.
>
> Thanks for the additional inputs.
>
>> On Sep 30, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 5:53 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick  
>> wrote:
>>
>
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Warin]

On 1/10/22 09:45, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:




On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
 wrote:



I would not  expect
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker.


Yes, quite definitely a water tap!

How you would then distinguish
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
and

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg


I wouldn't! I'd call them both a tap.

(upward tiny flow vs downward flow that basically always is more
significant)


For the purpose of a water tap, the amount of flow is basically 
irrelevant, just so long as you can get water from it as required.




A shower too would have a water tap. We don't add that tag to the shower 
.. so why would we to a bubbler? Should we not try to keep it simple?


Decorative fountains (what I would simply call a fountain) would also 
have a tap .. but not normally used by the public .. and plumbers would 
call it a 'stop cock' in Australia.
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Warin]

An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia

https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/


On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


sent from a phone


On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea  wrote:

There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as drinking 
fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in the park or Las Vegas), 
there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the same page about these?!  Good 
discussion so far!


there is also a whole tagging scheme for all of this.

amenity=drinking_water
fountain=drinking/bubbler/…
drinking_water=yes/no/…
man_made=water_tap
amenity=watering_place
amenity=fountain
…

the tags can be combined to get to a useful description.

FWIW, the water tap tag is often used for water that is not potable (because 
otherwise the standard is amenity=drinking_water



amenity=drinking_water does not signify a tap, nor a bubbler nor a 
stream, nor a spring nor a pond .. it could be any of those and more .. 
a 'well' for instance.


All amenity=drinking_water implies is 'drinking_water=yes', and 
hopefully the legal status too.



Only ~16% of man_made=water_tap carry the tag 'drinking_water=no'. I 
don't think that supports the comment 'often used for water that is not 
potable'.


See 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made%3Dwater_tap#combinations 
for more.



A bubbler would normally be drinking water and have a tap. A shower too 
would normally be drinking water and have one or more taps. I don't 
think that the tag 'man_made=water_tap' should be applied to these things.



A web comparison of 'bubbler' vs 'drinking  fountain' 
https://www.dictionary.com/compare-words/bubbler-vs-water%20fountain?root=bubbler 



I do like the distinction that a bubbler 'spouts water' where as a 
drinking fountain 'supplies water'. It is the "upward" 'spout' that 
makes human drinking easier.





Tagging combinations can get overly verbose?


man_made=water_tap
drinking_water=yes
material=brass

should not need added tags to further describe the water  .. such as

amenity=drinking_water ... I think this is just tagging for the render, 
possibly necessary for some.

And then adding

fountain=drinking ... adds no new information?






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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Volker Schmidt]

A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a
drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are tricky
in that regard.

BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking water,
for example by using rain water.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia
>
>
> https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/
>
>
> On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >
> > sent from a phone
> >
> >> On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea  wrote:
> >>
> >> There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as drinking
> fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in the park or Las
> Vegas), there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the same page about these?!
> Good discussion so far!
> >
> > there is also a whole tagging scheme for all of this.
> >
> > amenity=drinking_water
> > fountain=drinking/bubbler/…
> > drinking_water=yes/no/…
> > man_made=water_tap
> > amenity=watering_place
> > amenity=fountain
> > …
> >
> > the tags can be combined to get to a useful description.
> >
> > FWIW, the water tap tag is often used for water that is not potable
> (because otherwise the standard is amenity=drinking_water
>
>
> amenity=drinking_water does not signify a tap, nor a bubbler nor a
> stream, nor a spring nor a pond .. it could be any of those and more ..
> a 'well' for instance.
>
> All amenity=drinking_water implies is 'drinking_water=yes', and
> hopefully the legal status too.
>
>
> Only ~16% of man_made=water_tap carry the tag 'drinking_water=no'. I
> don't think that supports the comment 'often used for water that is not
> potable'.
>
> See
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made%3Dwater_tap#combinations
> for more.
>
>
> A bubbler would normally be drinking water and have a tap. A shower too
> would normally be drinking water and have one or more taps. I don't
> think that the tag 'man_made=water_tap' should be applied to these things.
>
>
> A web comparison of 'bubbler' vs 'drinking  fountain'
>
> https://www.dictionary.com/compare-words/bubbler-vs-water%20fountain?root=bubbler
>
>
> I do like the distinction that a bubbler 'spouts water' where as a
> drinking fountain 'supplies water'. It is the "upward" 'spout' that
> makes human drinking easier.
>
>
> 
>
> Tagging combinations can get overly verbose?
>
>
> man_made=water_tap
> drinking_water=yes
> material=brass
>
> should not need added tags to further describe the water  .. such as
>
> amenity=drinking_water ... I think this is just tagging for the render,
> possibly necessary for some.
>
> And then adding
>
> fountain=drinking ... adds no new information?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably
> already
> uploaded to Wikimedia Commons
>

How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Non_Potable_Water-01%2B_(489656009).jpg


Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Warin]

On 3/10/22 23:26, Volker Schmidt wrote:
A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a 
drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are 
tricky in that regard.

True, but it can be done.


BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking 
water, for example by using rain water.


In some parts of the world rain water is prized. The showers at William 
Creek Hotel, South Australia use bore water, rich in salt. Your towel 
will need a wash after drying yourself, the experienced skip the showers 
there unless your very dirty.




On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia


https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/


On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea  wrote:
>>
>> There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as
drinking fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in
the park or Las Vegas), there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the
same page about these?!  Good discussion so far!
>
> there is also a whole tagging scheme for all of this.
>
> amenity=drinking_water
> fountain=drinking/bubbler/…
> drinking_water=yes/no/…
> man_made=water_tap
> amenity=watering_place
> amenity=fountain
> …
>
> the tags can be combined to get to a useful description.
>
> FWIW, the water tap tag is often used for water that is not
potable (because otherwise the standard is amenity=drinking_water


amenity=drinking_water does not signify a tap, nor a bubbler nor a
stream, nor a spring nor a pond .. it could be any of those and
more ..
a 'well' for instance.

All amenity=drinking_water implies is 'drinking_water=yes', and
hopefully the legal status too.


Only ~16% of man_made=water_tap carry the tag 'drinking_water=no'. I
don't think that supports the comment 'often used for water that
is not
potable'.

See
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made%3Dwater_tap#combinations

for more.


A bubbler would normally be drinking water and have a tap. A
shower too
would normally be drinking water and have one or more taps. I don't
think that the tag 'man_made=water_tap' should be applied to these
things.


A web comparison of 'bubbler' vs 'drinking  fountain'

https://www.dictionary.com/compare-words/bubbler-vs-water%20fountain?root=bubbler



I do like the distinction that a bubbler 'spouts water' where as a
drinking fountain 'supplies water'. It is the "upward" 'spout' that
makes human drinking easier.




Tagging combinations can get overly verbose?


man_made=water_tap
drinking_water=yes
material=brass

should not need added tags to further describe the water  .. such as

amenity=drinking_water ... I think this is just tagging for the
render, possibly necessary for some.

And then adding

fountain=drinking ... adds no new information?






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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[stevea]

Yeah, this "lion spitting" non-potable water is what I might describe as a 
"decorative fountain fixture," not a "water tap" (no valve or flow control) and 
isn't drinkable (not a "drinking fountain," but it IS a "fountain") because the 
sign warns the water isn't safe to drink.

With much of Earth suffering from drought (or floods!) with wacky climate 
changes (I've lived long enough to see real changes in less than one lifetime — 
redwood forests are literally dying all around me!), I'm actually glad to see 
it when luxuries / extravagancies like fountains are using reclaimed / 
non-potable water:  it's the least they can do.

I was initially surprised at how confusing water tap, fountain, bubbler and all 
of this has been, but as we've teased it apart, there really are a great many 
subtle issues going on here.  And if English isn't your first language, wow, 
even tougher.  (I struggle to speak four other languages; being multi-lingual 
isn't easy for everybody).  If we keep answering enough specific questions from 
a wide variety of people about a wide variety of slightly different aspects of 
"water taps," I think we can eventually get somewhere.  We're doing OK.

On Oct 3, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap.
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Non_Potable_Water-01%2B_(489656009).jpg

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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Oct 4, 2022, 00:19 by graemefi...@gmail.com:

>
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> 
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
>
>>
>> or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably 
>> already
>> uploaded to Wikimedia Commons
>>
>
> How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Non_Potable_Water-01%2B_(489656009).jpg
>
This one seems to be flowing continuously, without user control.

So likely does not qualify as a water tap?

(at least I hope so)

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