Re: [Tagging] OSM changes the world | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial
On 21/10/2020 09.34, Tobias Zwick wrote: You seem to defend that OSM should be used as a tool to change language, for politically motivated reasons in this case. Indeed; we should not forget that the ultimate motivation here is *very much* political. (Note: as I stated elsewhere, that may not be the OP's motivation, but that of the forces manipulating the OP.) OTOH, there is unfortunately a political aspect to *not* making the change... because the group that wants a change can't tolerate the status quo. In my book, furthering political or social ideologies does not even fall remotely under the mission of OSM. I dearly hope it stays this way. Likewise. -- Matthew ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] OSM changes the world | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial
The purpose of OSM is to **map** the world. If this brings about positive change such as the things you mentioned (any many more), that's good and that is the reason why many people contribute to such a free wiki world map. This is a huge difference to your statement! You seem to defend that OSM should be used as a tool to change language, for politically motivated reasons in this case. OSM is as much about change as science, FOSS or wikipedia is about change. Who would trust wikipedia as a reliable source if their mission was to "bring about (political) change"? In my book, furthering political or social ideologies does not even fall remotely under the mission of OSM. I dearly hope it stays this way. Tobias On 21/10/2020 09:49, Rory McCann wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, at 6:25 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: (4) I would prefer to not use OSM as a tool to change language, especially if done at cost of making more complicated for mappers. AFAIK term "man made" and it's meaning remains standard and is well understood The purpose of OSM is to change the world. We're trying to create a map of the world, build by enthusiastic local people and to give it away to everyone for free. We're trying to produce a geo commons for every person. It's too late to say that OSM shouldn't change anything in the world. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] OSM changes the world | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial
Oct 21, 2020, 09:49 by r...@technomancy.org: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, at 6:25 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> (4) I would prefer to not use OSM as a tool >> to change language, especially if done at >> cost of making more complicated for >> mappers. AFAIK term "man made" and it's >> meaning remains standard and is well >> understood >> > > The purpose of OSM is to change the world. We're trying to create a map of > the world, build by enthusiastic local people and to give it away to everyone > for free. We're trying to produce a geo commons for every person. It's too > late to say that OSM shouldn't change anything in the world. > I wrote "I would prefer to not use OSM as a tool to change language". I see this proposal as similar to "we should use Esperanto as language for name tag" that appeared some time ago. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] OSM changes the world | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, at 6:25 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > (4) I would prefer to not use OSM as a tool > to change language, especially if done at > cost of making more complicated for > mappers. AFAIK term "man made" and it's > meaning remains standard and is well > understood The purpose of OSM is to change the world. We're trying to create a map of the world, build by enthusiastic local people and to give it away to everyone for free. We're trying to produce a geo commons for every person. It's too late to say that OSM shouldn't change anything in the world. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
