Re: [Tagging] Pumps (wells and many other things)

[Michael Patrick]

 > you've a typo here, and it is worth pointing it out, that's meant to be
4000 years according to the link... interesting links.

> Since pumps have been a manufactured commodity for about 400 years ( 
> https://www.worldpumps.com/general-processing/features/a-brief-history-of-pumps/
> there is an abundance of existing typologies and taxonomies dealing with
> pumps.
>

Operative word here is 'commodity', as opposed to custom one off devices.
When something becomes an item of commerce, multiples are made, and
differentiate into distinct categories, which in turn means that industry
begins to develop a lexicon based on some mutually understood
classification system.  For ocean going vessels, this started with Lloyds
of London in 1760 eventually evolving into today's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Classification_Societies
... sometimes it maybe some sort of central publication like my copy of the
1556 "De Re Metallica" that unifies the lexicon: (
https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9780486600062-us.jpg )
*"Originally published in 1556, Agricola's De Re Metallica was the first
book on mining to be based on field research and observation — what today
would be called the "scientific approach." It was therefore the first book
to offer detailed technical drawings to illustrate the various specialized
techniques of the many branches of mining, and the first to provide a
realistic history of mining from antiquity to the mid-sixteenth century.
For almost 200 years, Agricola remained the only authoritative work in this
area and by modern times it had become one of the most highly respected
scientific classics of all time. A book more often referred to in
literature on mining and metallurgy than any other"*
The central work for picking around that date was probably Decarte's
Hydrostatics Manuscript (
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Descartes-Hydrostatics-Manuscript-AT-X-69_fig1_323533598
), but there was a lot practical ground level stuff happening around that
time, and the concept of 'pump' became a first order category of it's own,
a technology and commodity, designed rather than a trial and error
tradition.

Michael Patrick
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Re: [Tagging] Pumps (wells and many other things)

[François Lacombe]

Hi Michael,

Thank you for such interesting links :)
I was looking for established classification but most of time several
properties are mixed in attributes which is less usable.
My points below.

Le jeu. 19 mars 2020 à 05:01, Michael Patrick  a
écrit :

> Since pumps have been a manufactured commodity for about 400 years ( 
> https://www.worldpumps.com/general-processing/features/a-brief-history-of-pumps/
> ) there is an abundance of existing typologies and taxonomies dealing with
> pumps. If the goal is a general tagging scheme that can further be refined
> when needed to more detailed descriptions, there is a fairly low delta from
> a complete scheme compared to an incomplete one which will grow by random
> accretion. See  IEEE GlobalSpec's Engineering360
> https://www.globalspec.com/pfdetail/pumps/types
>
That sounds the most promising repository I could integrate to proposed
pump=* values.
Note that some proposed values already match this IEEE classification
(Wikipedia may took inspiration there)


> 
> There are public domain classification systems available also, like
> *UNSPSC* # *4015151 *takes you to a  Stainless Steel Deep Well
> Submersible Pump. See  the section " 2.2. Industrial Categorization
> Schemes and Product Data Management in 'Inter-organizational Networks" in 
> Integrated
> Product Ontologies for Inter-Organizational Networks' at
> https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c471/40672c0c2e5a34c098fcd2809185537ee985.pdf
>

Main problem of "Stainless Steel Deep Well Submersible Pump." is such a
name give many information, but let the mechanism unknown.
We've got material=*, submersible=yes/no and eventually man_made=water_well
but no corresponding value for pump=*
I've got the same issue with European INSPIRE classes as well in other
projects.

Once solved, this would be useful to give more details about a given pump=*
value in a further proposal.

All the best

François
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Re: [Tagging] Pumps (wells and many other things)

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Do., 19. März 2020 um 05:02 Uhr schrieb Michael Patrick <
geodes...@gmail.com>:

> Since pumps have been a manufactured commodity for about 400 years ( 
> https://www.worldpumps.com/general-processing/features/a-brief-history-of-pumps/
> ) there is an abundance of existing typologies and taxonomies dealing with
> pumps.
>


you've a typo here, and it is worth pointing it out, that's meant to be
4000 years according to the link...
interesting links.

Cheers
Martin
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[Tagging] Pumps (wells and many other things)

[Michael Patrick]

Since pumps have been a manufactured commodity for about 400 years (
https://www.worldpumps.com/general-processing/features/a-brief-history-of-pumps/
) there is an abundance of existing typologies and taxonomies dealing with
pumps. If the goal is a general tagging scheme that can further be refined
when needed to more detailed descriptions, there is a fairly low delta from
a complete scheme compared to an incomplete one which will grow by random
accretion. See  IEEE GlobalSpec's Engineering360
https://www.globalspec.com/pfdetail/pumps/types
There are public domain classification systems available also, like *UNSPSC*
# *4015151 *takes you to a  Stainless Steel Deep Well Submersible Pump. See
the section " 2.2. Industrial Categorization Schemes and Product Data
Management
in 'Inter-organizational Networks" in Integrated Product Ontologies for
Inter-Organizational Networks' at
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c471/40672c0c2e5a34c098fcd2809185537ee985.pdf
As a bonus, the UNSPSC is already translated to English, French, German,
Spanish, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Dutch, Mandarin Chinese, Portuguese,
Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and Hungarian.W3C has somewhat detailed
instructions how to approach building a typology for the .many other
things', one at
https://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/w3pm/XGR-w3pm-20091008/#B.12 , there are
similar simpler cookbooks out there.

Michael Patrick
Data Ferret
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