Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us-nps] Feature Proposal - RFC - ranger_station

2013-08-12 Thread Thomas Colson
I'd update the definition to state facilities housing law enforcement and/or
visitor assistant services such as those commonly found in National Parks,
Forests, Wildlife Refuges, and State Parks. Tag should not be used on
facilities that do not include a law enforcement function such as
information kiosks or campground registration offices. In most cases, a
single structure will house many of these services.

 

Current text only references national parks. 

 

 

 

From: Clifford Snow [mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us] 
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:

After reading the discussion and incorporating what I could, I am moving

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dranger_st
ation

to the next step.  Please comment per voting procedures, here or on the talk
page.


I like your proposal. It would simplify mapping in parks with dedicated
ranger stations. Since there are 59 National Parks on our radar, each with a
least one ranger station, often more, the feature will be used throughout
the US. 

 

A Wikipedia search list over 6,000 results for ranger stations. The first
few pages appear to be sites that should be mapped.

 

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Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us-nps] Feature Proposal - RFC - ranger_station

2013-08-12 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Thomas, you say the tag should apply to facilities housing law enforcement
and/or visitor assistant services  but then say it shouldn't be used on
facilities that do not include a law enforcement function.  This seems
contradictory, unless you didn't really mean that or.

Also, does this law enforcement function really apply to all park rangers,
or just those in certain jurisdictions or levels of government?  I could
easily see this tag used in national, state, and county parks.

Brad


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote:

 I’d update the definition to state facilities housing law enforcement
 and/or visitor assistant services such as those commonly found in National
 Parks, Forests, Wildlife Refuges, and State Parks. Tag should not be used
 on facilities that do not include a law enforcement function such as
 information kiosks or campground registration offices. In most cases, a
 single structure will house many of these services.

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 Current text only references national parks. 

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 *From:* Clifford Snow [mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:42 PM
 *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools;
 talk-us-...@openstreetmap.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us-nps] [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -
 ranger_station

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 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
 wrote:

 After reading the discussion and incorporating what I could, I am moving**
 **


 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dranger_station
 

 to the next step.  Please comment per voting procedures, here or on the
 talk page.


 I like your proposal. It would simplify mapping in parks with dedicated
 ranger stations. Since there are 59 National Parks on our radar, each with
 a least one ranger station, often more, the feature will be used throughout
 the US. 

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 A Wikipedia search list over 6,000 results for ranger stations. The first
 few pages appear to be sites that should be mapped.

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 -- 

 Clifford

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Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us-nps] Feature Proposal - RFC - ranger_station

2013-08-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote:

 I’d update the definition to state facilities housing law enforcement
 and/or visitor assistant services such as those commonly found in National
 Parks, Forests, Wildlife Refuges, and State Parks.


Is there anything confusingly similar to a Ranger Station, that should have
a different tag?

Example: Pinnacles National Park has a true Ranger Station, but the first
contact for many visitors is elsewhere.
The main campground everyone uses has small store and campground office.
 There's a separate desk where park rangers hang out to talk maps and
collect fees.  Without guidance I'd call this as three nodes the same
building campground office/store/ranger station.

Example: the entrance stations at Yosemite National Park offer maps,
weather reports, collect fees, and are staffed with rangers who know the
park.  These rangers have radios to call on law enforcement.  Yet this is
pretty clearly an entrance kiosk, not a ranger station.
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