Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[Stewart Russell via talk]

On Tue., Apr. 11, 2023, 19:59 Znoteer via talk,  wrote:

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> baremetal.ca


Thanks. They don't seem to offer servers, though. We also are settled on
Digital Ocean.

 Stewart



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Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[Znoteer via talk]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 03:14:06PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
> I know that Akamai Cloud (formerly Linode) has dedicated root Linux servers
> in Toronto, but is there anyone else non-terrible*? There's a potential
> client who absolutely must have all data and processing hosted in Canada. I
> realize there's probably a 3x (or more) premium for in-country hosting.
> 
> Any suggestions/caveats greatly appreciated.

baremetal.ca They're in BC. The founder/owner was a member of VLUG back in 
97ish. That's how I know of them. Never used their services, but am likely 
going to transfer some domains names to them when they get close to expiring.


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Re: [GTALUG] UNIX of ESP32 [was Re: Canadian hosting?]

[Stewart C. Russell via talk]

On 11/04/2023 11.34, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:

As you say, Linux doesn't run on an ESP32.  But there is a youtube
video of someone who has built a PDP-11 emulator with an ESP32 and
runs 2.11 BSD UNIX on it.

So cute!
Ah, Sprite_tm's project: Sprites mods - Tiny PDP11 - Intro — 
https://spritesmods.com/?art=minipdp11


It's a little hard to find the exact EP32 module used for that 
simulation. That's part of the problem: there are many different chips 
called ESP32 /something/, but many of them are incompatible. Some have 
one core, most have two. Some have the ability to take a few megabytes 
of extra external (slow-ish) RAM, many don't. Some are even RISC V in 
disguise (the new ESP32-C6 is fully RISC V) , or have a tiny RISC V 
acting as an Ultra Low Power Processor that can do basic electronic 
logic and while the main processor is asleep.



I wonder if uClinux could be ported to ESP32.  But not enough to try!
It's not clear to me that it would be very useful.
Apparently it can  — 
https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/18/linux-5-0-esp32-processor/ - but 
it's doing it via RISC V emulation. I can't see how it would be useful 
at all, though


cheers,
 Stewart
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[GTALUG] UNIX of ESP32 [was Re: Canadian hosting?]

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Stewart Russell via talk 

|  It's been fun times
| engineering out US-disapproved products. We were just about to roll out an
| ESP32-based controller, but that got noped out by a client. A shame,
| because what you can do with a $2 ESP32 used to take a small server. (None
| of them are big enough to run Linux, tho)

I'm not sure what "none of them" refers to: ESP32 things or their
substitutes.

As you say, Linux doesn't run on an ESP32.  But there is a youtube
video of someone who has built a PDP-11 emulator with an ESP32 and
runs 2.11 BSD UNIX on it.

So cute!

I wonder if uClinux could be ported to ESP32.  But not enough to try!
It's not clear to me that it would be very useful.
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Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[Stewart Russell via talk]

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 8:40 AM Giles Orr via talk  wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 15:16, Alex Kink via talk  wrote:
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> > Digital Ocean, ...
>
> I second the Digital Ocean suggestion
>

Thanks, all! Looks like Digital Ocean has exactly what we need at a price
we can work with.

US ownership is fine: the only ownership problem a very few of our clients
have is China. They provide services in turn to the US government, so if
they want to be xenophobic, that's their problem. It's been fun times
engineering out US-disapproved products. We were just about to roll out an
ESP32-based controller, but that got noped out by a client. A shame,
because what you can do with a $2 ESP32 used to take a small server. (None
of them are big enough to run Linux, tho)

cheers,
 Stewart
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Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[Giles Orr via talk]

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 15:16, Alex Kink via talk  wrote:
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> Digital Ocean, Vultr, OVHcloud have data centres in Toronto or Montreal.
>
> > On Apr 10, 2023, at 15:14, Stewart C. Russell via talk  
> > wrote:
> >
> > I know that Akamai Cloud (formerly Linode) has dedicated root Linux servers 
> > in Toronto, but is there anyone else non-terrible*? There's a potential 
> > client who absolutely must have all data and processing hosted in Canada. I 
> > realize there's probably a 3x (or more) premium for in-country hosting.
> >
> > Any suggestions/caveats greatly appreciated.

I second the Digital Ocean suggestion: I use them heavily both at work
and personally (gilesorr.com mentioned in my email signature is hosted
there), with all machines in their Toronto data centre.  We've used
them for approximately seven years (the Toronto presence is only about
five years old), and they've been excellent.  I think we should point
out one caveat: D.O. is American-owned.  Although if you were
considering Akamai/Linode, I guess that's okay.

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