RE: a Script error
Hi: Go into the Windows Control Panel and in the ScriptManager tab to the help item and see if you can contact the person who created the script. That is the best bet me thinks. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:34 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: a Script error Sorry for the vague subject line. On my Windows 8.1 desktop, I am running Winamp version 5.66. I also installed Jeff Bishop's Winamp script, version 4.1 which is the most recent incarnation of the app. At any rate, as soon as I launch Winamp, I get a message which says that for the script to work, I must be running Window-eyes 8.4 or later. After this message, the script aborts. Since I am running Window-eyes 9.1, why am I getting this message, and, is there a fix? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: a Script error
Hi: OK, missed that it was Jeffs script - relly should finish a couple of cups before reading and posting. Anyway, post to the scripting list or get back to me and I will post or better, if Jeff has a contact e-mail in the script contact him directly. Sounds like a simple fix, perhaps just change one line of code but Jeff would know for sure. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:34 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: a Script error Sorry for the vague subject line. On my Windows 8.1 desktop, I am running Winamp version 5.66. I also installed Jeff Bishop's Winamp script, version 4.1 which is the most recent incarnation of the app. At any rate, as soon as I launch Winamp, I get a message which says that for the script to work, I must be running Window-eyes 8.4 or later. After this message, the script aborts. Since I am running Window-eyes 9.1, why am I getting this message, and, is there a fix? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
introducing AT prime software with window eyes
hey check this out! http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/atprime.html this could eliminate a lot of scripting! and pass this on to everyone please! this AT prime software is gunna revolutionise how screen readers read stuff to us! and it works with everything from narrator up to window eyes and jaws and everything in between! -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: thats the problem with wlm
I have windows live mail and I have never seen that happen or heard of such a thing. I've had it since June of 2011. Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:56 PM To: Donald L. Roberts ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: thats the problem with wlm the problem is most of the time focus is left in the to field when you reply. it does not always go to the message edit box. i constantly write my message in the too field and have to cut and paste it back into the message edit box because wlm will tell me to check the name because it is not a valid name when i try to send it. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:39 PM To: Bill Belew ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use WindowEyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opiniona betteruser interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have encouragedGW over the years to produce a App which would Hey Bill, I realize that accidents happen. But how about typing the message in the body rather than in the subject line. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: a Script error
I will post a fix later this morning, sorry for the delay. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jeff=jeffbishop@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:34 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: a Script error Sorry for the vague subject line. On my Windows 8.1 desktop, I am running Winamp version 5.66. I also installed Jeff Bishop's Winamp script, version 4.1 which is the most recent incarnation of the app. At any rate, as soon as I launch Winamp, I get a message which says that for the script to work, I must be running Window-eyes 8.4 or later. After this message, the script aborts. Since I am running Window-eyes 9.1, why am I getting this message, and, is there a fix? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jeff%40jeffbishop.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: a Script error
I just verified this but the app is running fine here under 9.1. What other apps are you running? I even re-installed it from App Central. I thought the world was OK . -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jeff=jeffbishop@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:34 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: a Script error Sorry for the vague subject line. On my Windows 8.1 desktop, I am running Winamp version 5.66. I also installed Jeff Bishop's Winamp script, version 4.1 which is the most recent incarnation of the app. At any rate, as soon as I launch Winamp, I get a message which says that for the script to work, I must be running Window-eyes 8.4 or later. After this message, the script aborts. Since I am running Window-eyes 9.1, why am I getting this message, and, is there a fix? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jeff%40jeffbishop.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes manual
Hi Joe: Which website are you getting that manual from? Kevin Huber On 3/18/15, Joe Quinn via Talk wrote: > is there an HTML version of the window eyes manual for windoweyes 9? The > site I have boomarked seems to not have the latest version, as the > requirements to run it include win xp. Could be wrong though, but maybe I'm > not! Smiles > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use WindowEyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opinion a better user interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have enco
Kurzweil also does. Pam. -Original Message- From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:21 AM To: 'Larry Higgins' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; bob jutzi Subject: RE: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use WindowEyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opinion a better user interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have encouraged GW over the years to produce a App which wo... Hi, both omnipage and abby-fine reader supports automatic page orientation. Obviously, if you put the page in the correct order, that makes the ocr easier and quicker. Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:27 To: bob jutzi; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use Window Eyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opinion a better user interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have encouraged GW over the years to produce a App which wo... Excuse me, but I really have to take this opportunity to ask the following. Does Omnipage, or any of the other recommended OCR programs happen to have automatic or optional orientation settings like OB has had for years? I really would like to have a good reason to dispense with the present version of OB 8 I happen to have lying around waiting to be installed on my new Windows 8.1 computer. I really would like to be able to continue to scan with the book in the up side down position, because I simply find it much easier to scan with the book more toward the frunt of the scanner instead of way in the back. It is jus so much easier for me to keep it lined up well in that position Any other new conveniences/options in these commercial versions I should know about. Thanks much, Larry At 04:02 PM 3/17/2015, you wrote: Openbook already is a poor, expensive choice. For my use, Omnipage 18 works very well with all versions of Window-eyes as well as NVDA. On 3/17/2015 10:50 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: On 3/17/2015 12:32 PM, K4NKZ JIM via Talk wrote: 1, Ommi Page 19 2, OmniPage Pro version18 3, openbook 9.0 thanks for any and all help! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jutzi%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micallef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List
Re: thats the problem with wlm
Let me ask this about WLM? When I was using WE 8.4, I could arrow up and down the folder list and WE would tell me how many unread messages are in each folder. This no longer seems to be the case with WE 9.10. -Original Message- From: michael's mail boxl via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:40 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: thats the problem with wlm Hi Net Bat I some times can just tab to the message body. But do you have my problem with WLM i get only on my win 7 machine every time i use it and start reading or deleting emails I get a message saying WLm is not responding witch stops We straight away. And some times i can alt tab to get WE back. Or I press hot key alt control W to get WE back, And IE gives me same message lots about not responding. It gives me an option to wait or close or check for a salution to the provlem. Whitch their never is one.But on My win 8.1 i never get that WLM message and only some times i get it with IE 11 with win 8.1. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:56 PM To: Donald L. Roberts ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: thats the problem with wlm the problem is most of the time focus is left in the to field when you reply. it does not always go to the message edit box. i constantly write my message in the too field and have to cut and paste it back into the message edit box because wlm will tell me to check the name because it is not a valid name when i try to send it. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:39 PM To: Bill Belew ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use WindowEyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opiniona betteruser interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have encouragedGW over the years to produce a App which would Hey Bill, I realize that accidents happen. But how about typing the message in the body rather than in the subject line. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
Hi: Interesting Demo video. Sounds pretty rough but has some nice ideas. I wonder how, if, screen readers handle windows without handles currently. Also, I wonder if he is getting the info from the UIA DOM or someplace else. Anyway, sort of cool that he has managed to get as far as he has. Keep us informed if you use it and how it develops over the rest of the year prior to production. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Introducing A T Prime software with Window-eyes
why? when at prime comes out we should not need so many apps for things. right? I'll wait for at prime and see what new accessibility it brings! maybe spotify will then be nearly 100% useable! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 3/18/2015 10:30 AM, Michael Massey wrote: Hey, Josh! Thank you so very much for passing along the information about the A T Prime software. Deep down, some of your emails have come across as having a flare for the dramatics, smile. But, not in this case, smile. I guess what also has bothered me is that you have begged for somebody to create an app for this or that. In my humble opinion, people will create an app to make Window-eyes work better with applications when or if they choose to do so. From my experience having been on this list since 1999 and you don't receive a response is that either nobody has an answer to a question or nobody can help you out. It appears that begging for somebody to create a specific app isn't getting you anywhere. Will I pass along your information? You betcha! I really hope this program will make the screen reader manufacturers take notice. Even with the improvements made in the Window-eyes 9 series, I still cannot interact with sites from Synchrony Bank such as Amazon.com or Wal-mart.com. You need sighted help to perform mouse clicks to interact with the date picker to select a payment date and blah blah blah. Mike M P.S. The opinions I expressed are my own. That's why I sent you a private message. As I have indicated to other list members, I don't appreciate being chastised on a public email list by members. The owners of the list is another story because they run the list. I've been chastised by Aaron a couple of times and felt I deserved it. . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: thats the problem with wlm
Set your live mail to single line view, and that should take care of the problem. Pam. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:32 AM To: michael's mail boxl ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: thats the problem with wlm Let me ask this about WLM? When I was using WE 8.4, I could arrow up and down the folder list and WE would tell me how many unread messages are in each folder. This no longer seems to be the case with WE 9.10. -Original Message- From: michael's mail boxl via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:40 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: thats the problem with wlm Hi Net Bat I some times can just tab to the message body. But do you have my problem with WLM i get only on my win 7 machine every time i use it and start reading or deleting emails I get a message saying WLm is not responding witch stops We straight away. And some times i can alt tab to get WE back. Or I press hot key alt control W to get WE back, And IE gives me same message lots about not responding. It gives me an option to wait or close or check for a salution to the provlem. Whitch their never is one.But on My win 8.1 i never get that WLM message and only some times i get it with IE 11 with win 8.1. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:56 PM To: Donald L. Roberts ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: thats the problem with wlm the problem is most of the time focus is left in the to field when you reply. it does not always go to the message edit box. i constantly write my message in the too field and have to cut and paste it back into the message edit box because wlm will tell me to check the name because it is not a valid name when i try to send it. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:39 PM To: Bill Belew ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use WindowEyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opiniona betteruser interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have encouragedGW over the years to produce a App which would Hey Bill, I realize that accidents happen. But how about typing the message in the body rather than in the subject line. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Introducing A T Prime software with Window-eyes
what are you having trouble with spotify? what parts aren't working? On 3/18/2015 11:17 AM, Josh K via Talk wrote: why? when at prime comes out we should not need so many apps for things. right? I'll wait for at prime and see what new accessibility it brings! maybe spotify will then be nearly 100% useable! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 3/18/2015 10:30 AM, Michael Massey wrote: Hey, Josh! Thank you so very much for passing along the information about the A T Prime software. Deep down, some of your emails have come across as having a flare for the dramatics, smile. But, not in this case, smile. I guess what also has bothered me is that you have begged for somebody to create an app for this or that. In my humble opinion, people will create an app to make Window-eyes work better with applications when or if they choose to do so. From my experience having been on this list since 1999 and you don't receive a response is that either nobody has an answer to a question or nobody can help you out. It appears that begging for somebody to create a specific app isn't getting you anywhere. Will I pass along your information? You betcha! I really hope this program will make the screen reader manufacturers take notice. Even with the improvements made in the Window-eyes 9 series, I still cannot interact with sites from Synchrony Bank such as Amazon.com or Wal-mart.com. You need sighted help to perform mouse clicks to interact with the date picker to select a payment date and blah blah blah. Mike M P.S. The opinions I expressed are my own. That's why I sent you a private message. As I have indicated to other list members, I don't appreciate being chastised on a public email list by members. The owners of the list is another story because they run the list. I've been chastised by Aaron a couple of times and felt I deserved it. . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sunshine%40abe.midco.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Introducing A T Prime software with Window-eyes
I can't make playlists, share songs through facebook and email, and I can't tell what song is currently playing, nor can I purchase the song that is currently playing. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 3/18/2015 1:23 PM, Sunshine wrote: what are you having trouble with spotify? what parts aren't working? On 3/18/2015 11:17 AM, Josh K via Talk wrote: why? when at prime comes out we should not need so many apps for things. right? I'll wait for at prime and see what new accessibility it brings! maybe spotify will then be nearly 100% useable! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 3/18/2015 10:30 AM, Michael Massey wrote: Hey, Josh! Thank you so very much for passing along the information about the A T Prime software. Deep down, some of your emails have come across as having a flare for the dramatics, smile. But, not in this case, smile. I guess what also has bothered me is that you have begged for somebody to create an app for this or that. In my humble opinion, people will create an app to make Window-eyes work better with applications when or if they choose to do so. From my experience having been on this list since 1999 and you don't receive a response is that either nobody has an answer to a question or nobody can help you out. It appears that begging for somebody to create a specific app isn't getting you anywhere. Will I pass along your information? You betcha! I really hope this program will make the screen reader manufacturers take notice. Even with the improvements made in the Window-eyes 9 series, I still cannot interact with sites from Synchrony Bank such as Amazon.com or Wal-mart.com. You need sighted help to perform mouse clicks to interact with the date picker to select a payment date and blah blah blah. Mike M P.S. The opinions I expressed are my own. That's why I sent you a private message. As I have indicated to other list members, I don't appreciate being chastised on a public email list by members. The owners of the list is another story because they run the list. I've been chastised by Aaron a couple of times and felt I deserved it. . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sunshine%40abe.midco.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: W E 9.1 on an XP system
Hello Mr. Roberts: I'm one individual who still schlepps Windows XP Pro around the block. Why so? It still works! I have virtually everything set up and it'll take me sometime to do the same in Windows7/8/8.1 especially at work. I am happily using Window-Eyes 9.0.0 in a Windows XP Professional 32Bit box with no problems whatsoever. I have NOT CHANGED any setting or tinkered with anything. I just installed, and that was it. Yes, I know there's Window-Eyes 9.1.0 out there; I've had NO LUCK in upgrading my XP box to this one. I downloaded and installed Browse Mode Enhanced, but, when I launch Window-Eyes, I get the message that Browse Mode Enhanced is NOT supported using the version of Window-Eyes I have in my XP box. I simply press on OK and I can go on and get work done with no hassles. Now do I have Window-Eyes 9.1.0 installed on any computer? I do! On my laptop running Windows7 Professional. I don't get the message about Browse Mode Enhanced I alluded to inter alia. I also have a laptop in my office running Windows8.1 Professional; I just installed Window-Eyes 9.0.0 in this box! It took me more than 30 minutes to complete the installation process and I don't know why that was the case. In fact, I had to get a pair of eyes to help me! In Windows XP, the installation process took less than 10 minutes total, and I did not need any pair of eyes! I'll say go ahead and install Window-Eyes 9.0.0 in your Windows XP box; if it doesn't work for you, you can always revert to version 8.4.0. It's working for me, I don't see why it won't work for you. Yes, GW Micro/AI Squared may not make any guarantees regarding XP, me thinks that's OK, they're just following the trend. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Internet Explorer
I just heard a article on the radio that Microsoft will do away with Internet Explorer. Will it still be in Windows 10? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Internet Explorer
Internet explorer is not dying completely. I just read an article not 5 minutes ago that says that internet explorer will still be available for professionals, and people with legacy needs. so it won't be gone completely from windows 10. On 3/18/2015 3:28 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: I just heard a article on the radio that Microsoft will do away with Internet Explorer. Will it still be in Windows 10? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Internet Explorer
Hi, Internet explorer will not be in Windows 10! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 19 Mar 2015, at 5:28 am, Don H via Talk wrote: I just heard a article on the radio that Microsoft will do away with Internet Explorer. Will it still be in Windows 10? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: W E 9.1 on an XP system
Hi, Browse mode enhance is not designed to work on anything earlier then Window-eyes 9.1. Feel free to remove it from your 9.0 machine. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:58 PM To: Donald L. Roberts; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: W E 9.1 on an XP system Hello Mr. Roberts: I'm one individual who still schlepps Windows XP Pro around the block. Why so? It still works! I have virtually everything set up and it'll take me sometime to do the same in Windows7/8/8.1 especially at work. I am happily using Window-Eyes 9.0.0 in a Windows XP Professional 32Bit box with no problems whatsoever. I have NOT CHANGED any setting or tinkered with anything. I just installed, and that was it. Yes, I know there's Window-Eyes 9.1.0 out there; I've had NO LUCK in upgrading my XP box to this one. I downloaded and installed Browse Mode Enhanced, but, when I launch Window-Eyes, I get the message that Browse Mode Enhanced is NOT supported using the version of Window-Eyes I have in my XP box. I simply press on OK and I can go on and get work done with no hassles. Now do I have Window-Eyes 9.1.0 installed on any computer? I do! On my laptop running Windows7 Professional. I don't get the message about Browse Mode Enhanced I alluded to inter alia. I also have a laptop in my office running Windows8.1 Professional; I just installed Window-Eyes 9.0.0 in this box! It took me more than 30 minutes to complete the installation process and I don't know why that was the case. In fact, I had to get a pair of eyes to help me! In Windows XP, the installation process took less than 10 minutes total, and I did not need any pair of eyes! I'll say go ahead and install Window-Eyes 9.0.0 in your Windows XP box; if it doesn't work for you, you can always revert to version 8.4.0. It's working for me, I don't see why it won't work for you. Yes, GW Micro/AI Squared may not make any guarantees regarding XP, me thinks that's OK, they're just following the trend. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
How To ID Current Synth and Settings
I have to test some synths but don't remember which synth I have running. How do I determine which is the currently active synth and voice for the synth? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Internet Explorer
Here's a link to the article i just referenced, I hope this will clear the issue up. http://betanews.com/2015/03/18/despite-what-you-may-have-heard-internet-explorer-is-not-dead/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed+-+bn+-+Betanews+Full+Content+Feed+-+BN On 3/18/2015 3:31 PM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: Internet explorer is not dying completely. I just read an article not 5 minutes ago that says that internet explorer will still be available for professionals, and people with legacy needs. so it won't be gone completely from windows 10. On 3/18/2015 3:28 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: I just heard a article on the radio that Microsoft will do away with Internet Explorer. Will it still be in Windows 10? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: How To ID Current Synth and Settings
Hello, Control-backslash. Select devices from the tree. Select Synthesizers and tab through the dialog.. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:00 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: How To ID Current Synth and Settings I have to test some synths but don't remember which synth I have running. How do I determine which is the currently active synth and voice for the synth? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: How To ID Current Synth and Settings
Hi Chris: I did that but nthing told me which synth is set currently unless I missed it. The default place where it opened to was the sappi voices and tabbing around told me nothing about which synth in the list is the currently running synth let alone which voice. I then cursored over all 27 synths in the list but nothing read as a synth being selected. Exactly what am I looking for? Rick USA -Original Message- From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:04 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: How To ID Current Synth and Settings Hello, Control-backslash. Select devices from the tree. Select Synthesizers and tab through the dialog.. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:00 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: How To ID Current Synth and Settings I have to test some synths but don't remember which synth I have running. How do I determine which is the currently active synth and voice for the synth? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40a isquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: W E 9.1 on an XP system
Hmm, I downloaded the 9.1 upgrade, but, thus far, it won't install on my XP Professional box. I do have Service Pak3, 32Bit! I'll keep trying though. Got to love Window-Eyes!! It still puts food on my wee, small table and enables me to pay the bills, bills, and more bills! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
OK, just gave that podcast a listen. Sure sounds interesting. Yet, I strongly disagree in a solution that requires you to be online, even if it is only for launching it. This kind of solution, is so deeply digging into the way people will get access to their screen, that they will become more or less completely depending on it. And then, what do you do the day when your internet connection is down? You cannot even launch the whole product, meaning that you now have to rely on the built-in functionality of your screen reader. Since you have come to depend on the info and operation of the AT Prime, you may have forgotten - or even worse, never really learned - the way to operate the screen reader itself. And, you may have learned to base your computer activity on a software that the screen reader does not necessarily cooperate well with. Now that your internet is down, you don't get a chance to launch this extra piece of software, and are left out in the cold, dark blue; with nowhere to go. You know, it all reminds me of what recently has taken place on the Android platform. First we saw the Eloquence voices hit the Android market, and lately I think it was Ivona. In both cases, the manufacturers decided to go for an online-based solution. Seems they figured we live in a time and world, where internet is something everybody are born with - a kind of an extension to our very body. Sorry, but that is not the everyday of many users. The guy behind the AT Prime, even is talking about developing countries who cannot afford. And then, he forces them to pay expensive, unreliable internet connections, for every time the product is going to be launched on your system. Imagine, in those countries with an unstabil power supply. The computer goes down ten times a day, due to power failure. And every time, you as a blind user have to hope for your internet connection to be up running, put aside a whole budget for online time, simply just to launch your extra piece of screen reading technology. Even in super-modern countries, like the North-Americas and Europe, we know what a connection failure causes for trouble. Do I have to remind people of the many complains GW received every time GWConnect did not work? Why was that? Wasn't it namely due to the lack of connection for an online service that people had come to rely on? And that was for a chatting program, something people could do without. I doubt your employer will accept you telling him, that you cannot read the screen, just because there is some sort of connection-downtime. And it may not even be on your side. It likely could just be on the service providers side. Timezones are different, and when you in the North-Americas get up in the morning, people in Australia have ended their working day. So, the cloud is down, and you cannot get your job done, until tomorrow when the Americas have had their lunch-break and got things sorted out. At least, I am happy that Window-Eyes has not yet turned into a cloud-based screen reader. Too bad, that people who develop good working solutions, block their users from effective use, simply by relying on third-party connections. The technology itself, may be well worth some extra thought. And if the screen reader market would pick up the idea, making the screens even more accessible, that would be great. But please don't come this way around, and offer us cloud-based solutions. Too many experiences have shown that to be far too unreliable. To the one posting the link, thanks for doing so. It was interesting to listen to the podcast, and I welcome the initiative behind the upcoming product. I just have a strong reaction to the cloud-basing, and want people to be aware how that actually could turn what was meant to be a great leap forward into accessibility, into something that would even worsen your daily computer activity. Or, do you really want to put yourself on the spot of all the frustrations, whenever the cloud is down, slow or incorrectly working, and you cannot get your daily activities carried out? David On 3/18/2015 1:00 PM, Josh K via Talk wrote: hey check this out! http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/atprime.html this could eliminate a lot of scripting! and pass this on to everyone please! this AT prime software is gunna revolutionise how screen readers read stuff to us! and it works with everything from narrator up to window eyes and jaws and everything in between! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window
Re: How To ID Current Synth and Settings
Hi. Make sure to open the devices node with the right arrow if it's closed. Down arrow to synthesizer. From here the tab key is your friend. The first list is the synthesizer, for example Eloquence Window-Eyes. The next tab press takes you to the selected voice. So, for example you may have English U.S. Reed selected. That's all there is to it. If your selected synth has no alternative voices that option won't show up, for example with my Doubletalk LT there's no list of specific voices. Good lubk. On 3/18/2015 3:15 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: Hi Chris: I did that but nthing told me which synth is set currently unless I missed it. The default place where it opened to was the sappi voices and tabbing around told me nothing about which synth in the list is the currently running synth let alone which voice. I then cursored over all 27 synths in the list but nothing read as a synth being selected. Exactly what am I looking for? Rick USA -Original Message- From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:04 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: How To ID Current Synth and Settings Hello, Control-backslash. Select devices from the tree. Select Synthesizers and tab through the dialog.. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:00 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: How To ID Current Synth and Settings I have to test some synths but don't remember which synth I have running. How do I determine which is the currently active synth and voice for the synth? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40a isquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mcommerford%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
wlm message count is gone.
this is because of changes made to the windows live mail app. if you have not upgraded this app the message count will still be announced. the new app version will not. but the new app will speak text you have highlighted while editing text in a reply. i square is aware of this and will work on this later. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:40 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion ListSubject: Re: thats the problem with wlm Set your live mail to single line view, and that should take care of the problem. Pam. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:32 AM To: michael's mail boxl ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: thats the problem with wlm Let me ask this about WLM? When I was using WE 8.4, I could arrow up and down the folder list and WE would tell me how many unread messages are in each folder. This no longer seems to be the case with WE 9.10. -Original Message- From: michael's mail boxl via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:40 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: thats the problem with wlm Hi Net Bat I some times can just tab to the message body. But do you have my problem with WLM i get only on my win 7 machine every time i use it and start reading or deleting emails I get a message saying WLm is not responding witch stops We straight away. And some times i can alt tab to get WE back. Or I press hot key alt control W to get WE back, And IE gives me same message lots about not responding. It gives me an option to wait or close or check for a salution to the provlem. Whitch their never is one.But on My win 8.1 i never get that WLM message and only some times i get it with IE 11 with win 8.1. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:56 PM To: Donald L. Roberts ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: thats the problem with wlm the problem is most of the time focus is left in the to field when you reply. it does not always go to the message edit box. i constantly write my message in the too field and have to cut and paste it back into the message edit box because wlm will tell me to check the name because it is not a valid name when i try to send it. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:39 PM To: Bill Belew ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Open Book has its own built in speech. You can not use WindowEyes with it. Only advantage to using Open Book is in my opiniona betteruser interface versus off the shelf OCR programs. I have encouragedGW over the years to produce a App which would Hey Bill, I realize that accidents happen. But how about typing the message in the body rather than in the subject line. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. Fo
Re: How To ID Current Synth and Settings
Under the syn list there is a entry called SMP window eyes. If I try to set to that syn I get nothing. What is this SMP syn? Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
CapEnhance Working Well With Eloquence
Hi Rod: Thanks for the app. It is working well with my Eloquence Synth. A small but valuable app for the WindowEyes ToolBox. I have not done anything but install it and setup Eloquence speech to sound pretty nice and the Caps are spoken with enough Pitch Change to be plenty noticeable. Good job Rod. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
David, If this is cloud based, well is a complete waste of time for the reasons you mention. Ross. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rossmcg=hotkey.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2015 7:50 AM To: Josh K; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes OK, just gave that podcast a listen. Sure sounds interesting. Yet, I strongly disagree in a solution that requires you to be online, even if it is only for launching it. This kind of solution, is so deeply digging into the way people will get access to their screen, that they will become more or less completely depending on it. And then, what do you do the day when your internet connection is down? You cannot even launch the whole product, meaning that you now have to rely on the built-in functionality of your screen reader. Since you have come to depend on the info and operation of the AT Prime, you may have forgotten - or even worse, never really learned - the way to operate the screen reader itself. And, you may have learned to base your computer activity on a software that the screen reader does not necessarily cooperate well with. Now that your internet is down, you don't get a chance to launch this extra piece of software, and are left out in the cold, dark blue; with nowhere to go. You know, it all reminds me of what recently has taken place on the Android platform. First we saw the Eloquence voices hit the Android market, and lately I think it was Ivona. In both cases, the manufacturers decided to go for an online-based solution. Seems they figured we live in a time and world, where internet is something everybody are born with - a kind of an extension to our very body. Sorry, but that is not the everyday of many users. The guy behind the AT Prime, even is talking about developing countries who cannot afford. And then, he forces them to pay expensive, unreliable internet connections, for every time the product is going to be launched on your system. Imagine, in those countries with an unstabil power supply. The computer goes down ten times a day, due to power failure. And every time, you as a blind user have to hope for your internet connection to be up running, put aside a whole budget for online time, simply just to launch your extra piece of screen reading technology. Even in super-modern countries, like the North-Americas and Europe, we know what a connection failure causes for trouble. Do I have to remind people of the many complains GW received every time GWConnect did not work? Why was that? Wasn't it namely due to the lack of connection for an online service that people had come to rely on? And that was for a chatting program, something people could do without. I doubt your employer will accept you telling him, that you cannot read the screen, just because there is some sort of connection-downtime. And it may not even be on your side. It likely could just be on the service providers side. Timezones are different, and when you in the North-Americas get up in the morning, people in Australia have ended their working day. So, the cloud is down, and you cannot get your job done, until tomorrow when the Americas have had their lunch-break and got things sorted out. At least, I am happy that Window-Eyes has not yet turned into a cloud-based screen reader. Too bad, that people who develop good working solutions, block their users from effective use, simply by relying on third-party connections. The technology itself, may be well worth some extra thought. And if the screen reader market would pick up the idea, making the screens even more accessible, that would be great. But please don't come this way around, and offer us cloud-based solutions. Too many experiences have shown that to be far too unreliable. To the one posting the link, thanks for doing so. It was interesting to listen to the podcast, and I welcome the initiative behind the upcoming product. I just have a strong reaction to the cloud-basing, and want people to be aware how that actually could turn what was meant to be a great leap forward into accessibility, into something that would even worsen your daily computer activity. Or, do you really want to put yourself on the spot of all the frustrations, whenever the cloud is down, slow or incorrectly working, and you cannot get your daily activities carried out? David On 3/18/2015 1:00 PM, Josh K via Talk wrote: > hey check this out! > > http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/atprime.html > > this could eliminate a lot of scripting! > and pass this on to everyone please! this AT prime software is gunna > revolutionise how screen readers read stuff to us! and it works with > everything from narrator up to window eyes and jaws and everything in > between! > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
RE: Enlist assistance resolving a web site issue
Don, Not sure if you had another response on this. I'm frankly impressed at how far you got on this form. Maybe the issue is that I'm only on WE 8.4 here in my office and maybe this site would respond better with WE 9. What I see visually where you pick a date is a calendar view for March and April -- the grid format with the days of the week across the top. I found that if I did a Insert Tab to pull up the link on the page, the calendar is actually labelled really nicely "you are on Friday, March 13". If I hit on that link in the dialog I'm placed on the calendar within the page and can tab between the date links. I was only finding the pickup location combo box erratically, so I don't' fully trust that my experience is like yours, but it's worth a try. I was using Firefox. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:48 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Enlist assistance resolving a web site issue I would appreciate it if one or more interested persons would check this out and tell me if the issue described below is a screen reader issue or is poor construction on the part of the web host. Please go to: www.usps.com , click on quick tools, then click on schedule a pickup. At this point, you are asked to provide first name, middle initial, last name, phone number, and email address, after which there is a 250 character edit field for any additional info to be entered. All of these work fine for me either with Window-eyes 9.1 or JFW 16. I haven't tried it with NVDA. Now here is where I have a seemingly insurmountable problem. You are presented with a combo box for selecting whether the package is to be picked up on your porch or in your mailbox when the carrier delivers your mail. This is okay, but the date selection mechanism just doesn't work for me regardless of screen reader though there well may be something which I am missing. So the question becomes "is it possible to complete the scheduling of a package pickup using Window-eyes 9.1? Thanks in advance for any assistance. By the way, I had similar results regardless of whether I used Internet 11 or a recent version of Firefox. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:dnereque...@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
A Little Happier With WE
Hi: I am a little happier now that Rods CapEnhance is working and Eloquence is ripping along after turning some settings off in the WE Control Panel. Now, if I can just get WE to work properly in Visual Studio I will be back to pre WE 9.1 ground 0 but with the CapEnhance to help during programming tasks. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
cap enhanced app
I looked for the Cap Enhanced app at app central and can not locate it. What grouping is it under? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
This @prime, what is it exactly? -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:49 PM To: Josh K ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes OK, just gave that podcast a listen. Sure sounds interesting. Yet, I strongly disagree in a solution that requires you to be online, even if it is only for launching it. This kind of solution, is so deeply digging into the way people will get access to their screen, that they will become more or less completely depending on it. And then, what do you do the day when your internet connection is down? You cannot even launch the whole product, meaning that you now have to rely on the built-in functionality of your screen reader. Since you have come to depend on the info and operation of the AT Prime, you may have forgotten - or even worse, never really learned - the way to operate the screen reader itself. And, you may have learned to base your computer activity on a software that the screen reader does not necessarily cooperate well with. Now that your internet is down, you don't get a chance to launch this extra piece of software, and are left out in the cold, dark blue; with nowhere to go. You know, it all reminds me of what recently has taken place on the Android platform. First we saw the Eloquence voices hit the Android market, and lately I think it was Ivona. In both cases, the manufacturers decided to go for an online-based solution. Seems they figured we live in a time and world, where internet is something everybody are born with - a kind of an extension to our very body. Sorry, but that is not the everyday of many users. The guy behind the AT Prime, even is talking about developing countries who cannot afford. And then, he forces them to pay expensive, unreliable internet connections, for every time the product is going to be launched on your system. Imagine, in those countries with an unstabil power supply. The computer goes down ten times a day, due to power failure. And every time, you as a blind user have to hope for your internet connection to be up running, put aside a whole budget for online time, simply just to launch your extra piece of screen reading technology. Even in super-modern countries, like the North-Americas and Europe, we know what a connection failure causes for trouble. Do I have to remind people of the many complains GW received every time GWConnect did not work? Why was that? Wasn't it namely due to the lack of connection for an online service that people had come to rely on? And that was for a chatting program, something people could do without. I doubt your employer will accept you telling him, that you cannot read the screen, just because there is some sort of connection-downtime. And it may not even be on your side. It likely could just be on the service providers side. Timezones are different, and when you in the North-Americas get up in the morning, people in Australia have ended their working day. So, the cloud is down, and you cannot get your job done, until tomorrow when the Americas have had their lunch-break and got things sorted out. At least, I am happy that Window-Eyes has not yet turned into a cloud-based screen reader. Too bad, that people who develop good working solutions, block their users from effective use, simply by relying on third-party connections. The technology itself, may be well worth some extra thought. And if the screen reader market would pick up the idea, making the screens even more accessible, that would be great. But please don't come this way around, and offer us cloud-based solutions. Too many experiences have shown that to be far too unreliable. To the one posting the link, thanks for doing so. It was interesting to listen to the podcast, and I welcome the initiative behind the upcoming product. I just have a strong reaction to the cloud-basing, and want people to be aware how that actually could turn what was meant to be a great leap forward into accessibility, into something that would even worsen your daily computer activity. Or, do you really want to put yourself on the spot of all the frustrations, whenever the cloud is down, slow or incorrectly working, and you cannot get your daily activities carried out? David On 3/18/2015 1:00 PM, Josh K via Talk wrote: hey check this out! http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/atprime.html this could eliminate a lot of scripting! and pass this on to everyone please! this AT prime software is gunna revolutionise how screen readers read stuff to us! and it works with everything from narrator up to window eyes and jaws and everything in between! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn.com. For subscription o
Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
It's a helper application that allows people to have access to controls that wouldn't otherwise be accessible. Even if it's a non-standard control, if there's any help text or a tooltip, AT prime can grab it and make the control more meaningful to the user. Also, if the help text isn't something meaningful, it's possible to create text labels for controls so that they're more meaningful for folks. It's cloud-based, so even if you're on a computer that isn't yours, you can still have access to all your settings and everything, no matter where you are in the world. I'm still not sure how it handles web pages, such as non-standard flash controls and other things like that, but I'm certain that we'll know more soon. I'm going to reserve judging it until i've actually had a play with it, to see what it can do. from the demo I heard though, it's pretty darn impressive. On 3/18/2015 8:16 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: This @prime, what is it exactly? -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:49 PM To: Josh K ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes OK, just gave that podcast a listen. Sure sounds interesting. Yet, I strongly disagree in a solution that requires you to be online, even if it is only for launching it. This kind of solution, is so deeply digging into the way people will get access to their screen, that they will become more or less completely depending on it. And then, what do you do the day when your internet connection is down? You cannot even launch the whole product, meaning that you now have to rely on the built-in functionality of your screen reader. Since you have come to depend on the info and operation of the AT Prime, you may have forgotten - or even worse, never really learned - the way to operate the screen reader itself. And, you may have learned to base your computer activity on a software that the screen reader does not necessarily cooperate well with. Now that your internet is down, you don't get a chance to launch this extra piece of software, and are left out in the cold, dark blue; with nowhere to go. You know, it all reminds me of what recently has taken place on the Android platform. First we saw the Eloquence voices hit the Android market, and lately I think it was Ivona. In both cases, the manufacturers decided to go for an online-based solution. Seems they figured we live in a time and world, where internet is something everybody are born with - a kind of an extension to our very body. Sorry, but that is not the everyday of many users. The guy behind the AT Prime, even is talking about developing countries who cannot afford. And then, he forces them to pay expensive, unreliable internet connections, for every time the product is going to be launched on your system. Imagine, in those countries with an unstabil power supply. The computer goes down ten times a day, due to power failure. And every time, you as a blind user have to hope for your internet connection to be up running, put aside a whole budget for online time, simply just to launch your extra piece of screen reading technology. Even in super-modern countries, like the North-Americas and Europe, we know what a connection failure causes for trouble. Do I have to remind people of the many complains GW received every time GWConnect did not work? Why was that? Wasn't it namely due to the lack of connection for an online service that people had come to rely on? And that was for a chatting program, something people could do without. I doubt your employer will accept you telling him, that you cannot read the screen, just because there is some sort of connection-downtime. And it may not even be on your side. It likely could just be on the service providers side. Timezones are different, and when you in the North-Americas get up in the morning, people in Australia have ended their working day. So, the cloud is down, and you cannot get your job done, until tomorrow when the Americas have had their lunch-break and got things sorted out. At least, I am happy that Window-Eyes has not yet turned into a cloud-based screen reader. Too bad, that people who develop good working solutions, block their users from effective use, simply by relying on third-party connections. The technology itself, may be well worth some extra thought. And if the screen reader market would pick up the idea, making the screens even more accessible, that would be great. But please don't come this way around, and offer us cloud-based solutions. Too many experiences have shown that to be far too unreliable. To the one posting the link, thanks for doing so. It was interesting to listen to the podcast, and I welcome the initiative behind the upcoming product. I just have a strong reaction to the cloud-basing, and want people to be aware how that actually could turn what was meant to be a great leap forward into accessibility, into somethin
RE: Cursoring in Active Directory /Tree
Sad to say, I manages a couple of AD myself from 2003 and now 2012, all it's the same when it comes to huge or multiple OU. Cursor delay does not do much to me, sometimes it just got worst, so I prefer to use ctrl - shift - s to read the actual item I am in. it can't be the network being slow as I RDP into them to manage them directly. It started since 7.5 I think or so. If you look at the group policy editor in all those new server, it have delay reading as well. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk Sent: Friday, 13 March 2015 10:01 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List (talk@lists.window-eyes.com) Subject: Cursoring in Active Directory /Tree Hello, I am using Windows 7 and WE 9.1 with a set file renamed from default.set. In Active Directory, the cursoring up or down reads the previous container when in the first 3 branches. This also happens when navigating by typing the first letter of the container. The settings for the up and down arrows are set to read line. I have tried to change to read something else, but that doesn't help. An example would be: we have departments like Public Health and Public Works. If I am on Public Health and press the down arrow to Public Works, WE says Public Health when it should say Public Works. Likewise, when I arrow back up to Public Health, WE says Public Works. The Windows Explorer or any other tree views do not behave like this. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get these arrow keys or typing by first letter to read correctly? Thanks, David Ayers ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%4 0gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Sorry for the OT but I really need some word adjustments for we to work
Hi all, I need to copy some documents I received via Outlook 2007 email and re-do them in Word 2007. However all I am seeing in Word are tables and rows. We reports that Word 2007 is in print mode when no document is displayed. How can I fix Word 2007 to not show tables and colums or whatever, - just a simple Word layout is all I need at this point. Please be detailed concerning Word as I am new to the ribbon thingys. Thanks for the help, John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Sorry for the OT but I really need some word adjustments for we to work
Hi, press ALT+control D when the word document has loaded. This will put you in draft View for you! This is the view you want.thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 19 Mar 2015, at 1:22 pm, John Chilelli via Talk wrote: Hi all, I need to copy some documents I received via Outlook 2007 email and re-do them in Word 2007. However all I am seeing in Word are tables and rows. We reports that Word 2007 is in print mode when no document is displayed. How can I fix Word 2007 to not show tables and colums or whatever, - just a simple Word layout is all I need at this point. Please be detailed concerning Word as I am new to the ribbon thingys. Thanks for the help, John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: cap enhanced app
Hi Don, I wrote this in response to Rick's difficulty distinguishing capital letters, but I have not, as yet, posted it to App Central. Unlike the CapBeeper app, my app actually raises the pitch more than synthesizers do normally. I'm just ironing out a few bugs and it should be ready to post in the coming days. Thanks for the interest, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Don H via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:47 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: cap enhanced app I looked for the Cap Enhanced app at app central and can not locate it. What grouping is it under? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
Well, it would be good if they also had a paid version, so you could buy it and install it on your computer, so you're not bothered if the net is working or not, on that day. Ross. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rossmcg=hotkey.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:40 AM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes It's a helper application that allows people to have access to controls that wouldn't otherwise be accessible. Even if it's a non-standard control, if there's any help text or a tooltip, AT prime can grab it and make the control more meaningful to the user. Also, if the help text isn't something meaningful, it's possible to create text labels for controls so that they're more meaningful for folks. It's cloud-based, so even if you're on a computer that isn't yours, you can still have access to all your settings and everything, no matter where you are in the world. I'm still not sure how it handles web pages, such as non-standard flash controls and other things like that, but I'm certain that we'll know more soon. I'm going to reserve judging it until i've actually had a play with it, to see what it can do. from the demo I heard though, it's pretty darn impressive. On 3/18/2015 8:16 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: > This @prime, what is it exactly? > > > -Original Message- From: David via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:49 PM > To: Josh K ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes > > OK, just gave that podcast a listen. Sure sounds interesting. > > Yet, I strongly disagree in a solution that requires you to be online, > even if it is only for launching it. This kind of solution, is so > deeply digging into the way people will get access to their screen, > that they will become more or less completely depending on it. And > then, what do you do the day when your internet connection is down? > You cannot even launch the whole product, meaning that you now have to > rely on the built-in functionality of your screen reader. Since you > have come to depend on the info and operation of the AT Prime, you may > have forgotten > - or even worse, never really learned - the way to operate the screen > reader itself. And, you may have learned to base your computer > activity on a software that the screen reader does not necessarily > cooperate well with. Now that your internet is down, you don't get a > chance to launch this extra piece of software, and are left out in the > cold, dark blue; with nowhere to go. > > You know, it all reminds me of what recently has taken place on the > Android platform. First we saw the Eloquence voices hit the Android > market, and lately I think it was Ivona. In both cases, the > manufacturers decided to go for an online-based solution. Seems they > figured we live in a time and world, where internet is something > everybody are born with - a kind of an extension to our very body. > Sorry, but that is not the everyday of many users. The guy behind the > AT Prime, even is talking about developing countries who cannot > afford. And then, he forces them to pay expensive, unreliable internet > connections, for every time the product is going to be launched on your system. > Imagine, in those countries with an unstabil power supply. The > computer goes down ten times a day, due to power failure. And every > time, you as a blind user have to hope for your internet connection to > be up running, put aside a whole budget for online time, simply just > to launch your extra piece of screen reading technology. > > Even in super-modern countries, like the North-Americas and Europe, we > know what a connection failure causes for trouble. Do I have to remind > people of the many complains GW received every time GWConnect did not > work? Why was that? Wasn't it namely due to the lack of connection for > an online service that people had come to rely on? And that was for a > chatting program, something people could do without. I doubt your > employer will accept you telling him, that you cannot read the screen, > just because there is some sort of connection-downtime. And it may not > even be on your side. It likely could just be on the service providers > side. Timezones are different, and when you in the North-Americas get > up in the morning, people in Australia have ended their working day. > So, the cloud is down, and you cannot get your job done, until > tomorrow when the Americas have had their lunch-break and got things sorted out. > > At least, I am happy that Window-Eyes has not yet turned into a > cloud-based screen reader. Too bad, that people who develop good > working solutions, block their users from effective use, simply by > relying on third-party connections. The technology itself, may be well >
RE: introducing AT prime software with window eyes
Hi Guys: It is an interesting app. I am looking forward to later this year to see how Paul fleshes out the project. My only thought is that if he can do this stuff, likely using UIA, why cant the screen reader companies do it? And, in fact, once he has a product on the market they will likely setup similar features. In any case it is a nice project and he has evidently put some time into it. Showing up at Csun or whatever with a demo and creating a audio video is another nice touch showing he is serious about putting something out. But lets wait to see how he sets the project up for production. Right now he is talking online, likely easier to manage and control any pricing he might, or not, require but as some have noted it would be a good app as a stand-alone download as well. He has put himself out there in the public eye so lets see how well he builds his product and his company. Good luck to all who develop for others! Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:40 PM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes It's a helper application that allows people to have access to controls that wouldn't otherwise be accessible. Even if it's a non-standard control, if there's any help text or a tooltip, AT prime can grab it and make the control more meaningful to the user. Also, if the help text isn't something meaningful, it's possible to create text labels for controls so that they're more meaningful for folks. It's cloud-based, so even if you're on a computer that isn't yours, you can still have access to all your settings and everything, no matter where you are in the world. I'm still not sure how it handles web pages, such as non-standard flash controls and other things like that, but I'm certain that we'll know more soon. I'm going to reserve judging it until i've actually had a play with it, to see what it can do. from the demo I heard though, it's pretty darn impressive. On 3/18/2015 8:16 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: > This @prime, what is it exactly? > > > -Original Message- From: David via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:49 PM > To: Josh K ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: introducing AT prime software with window eyes > > OK, just gave that podcast a listen. Sure sounds interesting. > > Yet, I strongly disagree in a solution that requires you to be online, > even if it is only for launching it. This kind of solution, is so deeply > digging into the way people will get access to their screen, that they > will become more or less completely depending on it. And then, what do > you do the day when your internet connection is down? You cannot even > launch the whole product, meaning that you now have to rely on the > built-in functionality of your screen reader. Since you have come to > depend on the info and operation of the AT Prime, you may have forgotten > - or even worse, never really learned - the way to operate the screen > reader itself. And, you may have learned to base your computer activity > on a software that the screen reader does not necessarily cooperate well > with. Now that your internet is down, you don't get a chance to launch > this extra piece of software, and are left out in the cold, dark blue; > with nowhere to go. > > You know, it all reminds me of what recently has taken place on the > Android platform. First we saw the Eloquence voices hit the Android > market, and lately I think it was Ivona. In both cases, the > manufacturers decided to go for an online-based solution. Seems they > figured we live in a time and world, where internet is something > everybody are born with - a kind of an extension to our very body. > Sorry, but that is not the everyday of many users. The guy behind the AT > Prime, even is talking about developing countries who cannot afford. And > then, he forces them to pay expensive, unreliable internet connections, > for every time the product is going to be launched on your system. > Imagine, in those countries with an unstabil power supply. The computer > goes down ten times a day, due to power failure. And every time, you as > a blind user have to hope for your internet connection to be up running, > put aside a whole budget for online time, simply just to launch your > extra piece of screen reading technology. > > Even in super-modern countries, like the North-Americas and Europe, we > know what a connection failure causes for trouble. Do I have to remind > people of the many complains GW received every time GWConnect did not > work? Why was that? Wasn't it namely due to the lack of connection for > an online service that people had come to rely on? And that was for a > chatting program, something people could do without. I doubt your > employer will accept you telling him, that you cannot read th
