RE: Loss of letters when typing

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Mike,

Press Insert-2, not the two on the NumPad, but the other one, and press it
repeatedly until you hear Keyboard voice on with characters.
Now, assuming your Scope for this setting is set to global in the current
set file, this will be the default global setting, but then you must open
the Window-Eyes control panel and press Control-S to save it globally.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: December 16, 2015 10:12 PM
To: Window Eyes List 
Subject: Loss of letters when typing

Downloaded 9.3 and don't hear my keyboard letters.  How do I get the letter
sounds back?



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


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Re: Loss of speech when returning from sleep

[net bat via Talk]

its not just sleep mode. i am loosseing speech in wlm and in firefox too. 
usually with read to end. sometimes while just typeing a message in wlm.


-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:36 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Loss of speech when returning from sleep

Anyone else having a issue of losing speech when your laptop returns
from sleep mode?  This has started after installing WE 9.3.1 on my
Windows 10 64 bit laptop.
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FW: The Sea Battle Game Enhanced Is For Sale On Amazon

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi,

As requested by the app author; I'm forwarding updated info about how to
find his app on the Amazon site.

The best of the season,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: LB [mailto:lab...@fltg.net] 
Sent: December 20, 2015 8:59 PM
To: Rod Hutton 
Subject: The Sea Battle Game Enhanced Is For Sale On Amazon

Hi Rod,

I added the direct link to the page the Sea Battle game is on. It did
not get on the scripting list yet and don't know why. But if you could post
it on the talk list instead of waiting go ahead.

Bruce and Bronx

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: The Sea Battle Game Enhanced Is For Sale On Amazon




Hi Everyone,

The Amazon Sea Battle Link Is:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B018TLIR3S

Previous Posting:
I also forgot to mention that the new game voice adjustments and speaker
adjustments are the F2, F3, and F4 keys.
I got rid of the Home, End, PageUp and Down key adjustments.

This new game on Amazon has different speaker and voice settings and the
hotkeys are:
The F2 key adjust and test speakers and headset for you, which will change
orientation without you moving the speakers or your headset for your ears.

The F3 key adjusts all player voices. You select which player, including
computer than hit the enter key to adjust it's voice, volume, rate, and
pitch.
Also, the SAPI voices are in this option as well, just use the right
arrow key to select the SAPI player adjustments.
It automatically comes up with Windoweyes player voice settings, so cursor
right for SAPI and cursor left to go back to Windoweyes voices.
The left and right arrow keys takes you to which setting to adjust in all
cases for player voices.
The up and down arrows adjust each selections adjustments.

Now the F4 key is for which voice engine to use, When pressed it toggles
back and forth from using Windoweyes voices or SAPI voices that you have set
for each player.

The game comes with 18 background sounds and 5 Jukebox music files. As I
state below, you can either search for the files you want or just copy using
the clipboard and paste them into which list you want them in.

These are the other features for this game that are different from the
original game I have posted on Windoweyes.

So have fun with both the game and the Jukebox when you decide to
download the Amazon Sea Battle game/Jukebox.

Sincerely
Bruce
Brute Vision
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: The Sea Battle Game Enhanced Is For Sale



Hi!

For Christmas those who have downloaded Sea battle and no people who
would like to play it is now for sale on Amazon. Not available in Canada
until January according to Amazon.

It is called:
"Sea Battle For The Visually Impaired Enhanced"
The purchased form of Sea battle has the Jukebox as well to play the MP3
music and the choices of any background sounds or music you wish to listen
to while playing the game.

This enhanced version of the game corrects against errors if searching
for files on a CD drive or USB port that is not available and will tell you
without shutting down.
 Besides that feature which only stores address paths for the file the
enhanced version allows you to copy/cut and paste files to the respective
folder you want the music/sound to be listed in. In other words you can
paste files into the background folder or the Jukebox play list folder, or
both if you so desire.

When going into the background play list all added files will be listed
immediately but in the Jukebox play list those added files only show up if
you press the F9 key after entering the Jukebox play list.
Not listing them immediately inside the Jukebox prevents problems arising if
you want to edit the play list before adding new and disturbing any list
presently playing.


Also, added to this is the display of all moves inside the game or in
any section of the Sea Battle/Jukebox you may be in. All display is done in
the Title Bar and it will display which player is playing, what square, or
ocean section there on. It also displays the presently selected music file
or any hotkey function that gets pressed.

This does allow sighted users to play the game while getting use to
voices. Besides the ability to get feed back of what you have just done. For
if a player is playing they can read the Title Bar to know what was
presently spoken...

So, the game is on Amazon now with the ability to add more SAPI voices
if you need to and still uses Windoweyes as the reader/voice unless you
select SAPI.
It is also installed in your Program Files folder instead of in your
Windoweyes default folder. This will allow easier access to you music files
and have your game portable by just copying that folder onto all of your
computers and moving copies of your Shortcut files for that folder either by
CD or your network from your desktop...

So just go to Amazon and search either by typing: "Sea 

Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Call them, tomorrow.  They may have to remote into your computer and do it. 
If they do, they may be able to find out what the problem is.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

I uninstalled Office 2003 thinking this might be the reason why
window eyes 9.3 won't install over 9.2.1, but I still get the message
that 9.3 is not compatible with my version of window eyes. This
happens on my windows 7 machine and my windows 10 machine.

At 09:33 AM 12/17/2015, you wrote:

Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.

If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.

A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?

Dave


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Re: utube video

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Below is a link to the tutorial in MP3 format.I've used SongR for years 
and it works great.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ouvw7ph2mti0e0f/01%20The%20Windows%2010%20Start%20Menu.mp3?dl=0

Hth,
Tom


On 12/20/2015 12:28 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Does anyone have a MP3 copy of  Kathy Ann Murtha's  tutorial on the
Windows 10 start menu.  If so, I'd appreciate a copy. If not, please
explain how I can make a copy.
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TB

[Alan Siman via Talk]

In we 9.3.1 as someone else mentioned we in mt tb 31 is repeating the 
first line or sentence in some emails but not others.


Obviously this just started with the update.  Is there a fix for this or 
is there a bug in the update?

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Re: utube video

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Another idea you might consider is using a program called SongR, which 
will let you copy a URL of a video or any other Youtube file to the 
clipboard, and paste it into the download from youtube dialog box, and 
convert it to .mp3. Depending on the size of the file, it might take 
less than 10 seconds for a two minute song, or maybe a minute or less to 
convert an hour long presentation.
I use it constantly, and I've found nothing better for accomplishing 
these kinds of tasks.


Good luck,

Larry

On 12/20/2015 2:29 PM, via Talk wrote:

This is Probably the hard way to do this, but this is what I do.

I used Gold Wave to record the video playing.

I then end the recording, edit the beginning and ending of this file,
and save it as an MP3 file.

A second way is to use a web site that converts Youtube videos to MP3.


Start the video, then copy the URL.  Go to that Special web site and
Paste the URL into the correct spot.  Choose a Button labeled Convert
and it takes a few minutes.

You are then able to download the newly created file.

I am doing this on a Win 7 system with 9.3.

Compared to recording with Gold Wave, using this Web Site is much
faster.  The web site converted a a45 minute video in just a few minutes.
The problem I ran into, was that the web site notified me that I needed
to install something called Flash Player Pro.   Even though I had never
heard of this program, I chose to download and install it.  When I did
this, I started getting warned by AVG that this file is wanting to
install and it may not be a good idea.So I canceled the download of
the Flash Player Pro.


I may try it again when I look up who and what Flash Player Pro is, and
if this works out, using the Web Site would be the fastest and cleanest
way to obtain an MP3 file of any video found on Youtube.

Now you all are wanting to know the address to the Converting Web site,
so it is found below.

http://2conv.com/


Dave






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WE and Jarte

[Don H via Talk]

Notice on App Central that there is a Jarte app.  It is quite old.  Is 
it still relavant to the latest version of Jarte?

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Loss of speech when returning from sleep

[Don H via Talk]

Anyone else having a issue of losing speech when your laptop returns 
from sleep mode?  This has started after installing WE 9.3.1 on my 
Windows 10 64 bit laptop.

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Re: Getting Eudora to Work properly in Windows 10

[Dave Basden via Talk]

It seems to work for me aside from not reading the header on the last 
message listed.  That was true in Windows 8.1 as well.  I changed 
nothing from my Windows 7 settings.


At 09:08 AM 12/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi, Folks.  Has anyone been able to get Eudora to work properly in 
Windows 10, and if so, how?  I recently upgraded to Windows 10, and 
left Eudora installed.  Also, reinstalled the factory 
settings/Eudora set files, as the ones I had disappeared.  Also 
maximized the child and parent windows (alt-hypen/x and alt-space/x) 
and still can't read the emails and navigate properly.  Is there 
anything I need to do to get Eudora working again, or is this a lost 
cause?  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao


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RE: testing complete

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Carol,

Have you updated your set files for TB in the Factory Settings dialog in the
File menu?
Repeating was happening for me in Outlook 2013 even after I upgraded to WE
9.3.1 yesterday until I updated the outdated set files.

Hth,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: December 18, 2015 8:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: testing complete

In order to keep Thunderbird from reading the first line of the message 
twice, I have found that a single character in the first line will stop 
the repeat.  Would it be possible to create an automatically generated 
character addition to the TB Enhanced app so that it would automatically 
add something at the beginning of the compose email screen?  Of course, 
it doesn't bother me to do this for my outgoing messages, it is only a 
problem for incoming messages that begin with an entire line of text 
that gets repeated. Yes, I know I am being picky, grin.


On 12/18/2015 8:18 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
> .
> Well, skipping a blank line did not stop the repeated reading of the 
> first line.  I have placed a period in this test.
>
> On 12/18/2015 8:12 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
>> I have a problem where all first lines read twice.  This is fine when 
>> someone writes something like hello or hi, but when most of the 
>> message is on the first line, it gets read and then is read a second 
>> time.  I am adding a blank line here to see if this solves the 
>> problem.  Thank you.
>>
>>
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table headings

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
Using: WE 9.3.1, latest FireFox, W7 HP 32

Since updating WE last week, I am unable to turn off the column and row 
headings on some sites I use regularly. The changes just do not stick.


Going into Verbosity, Browse Mode, Tables,I have tried turning off 
anything that seems a likely candidate but it either doesn't stop WE 
reading the column and row headings or if it does, only until next time.


In order to save the settings, control s, pressing enter on the save 
settings button as well as the spacebar have been tried. Next time the 
table is accessed, the option Default headings has changed from "none" 
back to row and column.


The FireFox set files have also been updated to the latest but  with no 
change. Chrome also gives the same results.



Anyone else struck this problem?

Neville.

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Cannot install window-eyes 9.3

[Thomas J Heinl via Talk]

I have tried to install 9.3 by downloading the file and then installing
it  and by checking for updates and then installing it.  In either case
it asks me if I will let this program change the user account ( UAC ) and
I say yes and then nothing happens.  I am using windowws 10 with
window-eyes 9.2 needed for windows 10.  Any suggestions?

Thanks


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Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

[David Pearson via Talk]

I uninstalled Office 2003 thinking this might be the reason why 
window eyes 9.3 won't install over 9.2.1, but I still get the message 
that 9.3 is not compatible with my version of window eyes. This 
happens on my windows 7 machine and my windows 10 machine.


At 09:33 AM 12/17/2015, you wrote:

Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.

If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.

A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?

Dave


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WE with Handytech Active Braille

[Imke Durre via Talk]

Hello,

Is there anyone on this list who is using Window-Eyes together with a
Handy Tech Active Braille. I would like to find out how to get the ATC
technology as well as braille entry from the Active Braille  to work.
I know about pressing Space-1-7 for toggling ATC on and off and have
it set to on, but when I scroll through text, I haven't gotten the
display to advance when my hands reach the end of the braille line.
Also, I haven't found the setting in WE for turning on braille input.

Thanks,
Imke Durre



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Re: Cannot install window-eyes 9.3

[via Talk]

Sometimes it takes quite a while between steps whenupgrading or
installing, I have seen it take several minutes each.

Kevin Barry via Talk  wrote:

> I am having the exact same problem on not one, but two separate Windows
> 8.one machines. No matter how many times I download it, or what steps I
> take, nothing works. I have turned up smart filter. It is very unusual, or
> suspicious, that this is happening to two of my machines, the machines are
> very separate and have nothing in common other than the operating system. I
> have updated window eyes on these machines previously.
> 
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015, Thomas J Heinl via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have tried to install 9.3 by downloading the file and then installing
> > it  and by checking for updates and then installing it.  In either case
> > it asks me if I will let this program change the user account ( UAC ) and
> > I say yes and then nothing happens.  I am using windowws 10 with
> > window-eyes 9.2 needed for windows 10.  Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 
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Re: Cannot install window-eyes 9.3

[Kevin Barry via Talk]

I am having the exact same problem on not one, but two separate Windows
8.one machines. No matter how many times I download it, or what steps I
take, nothing works. I have turned up smart filter. It is very unusual, or
suspicious, that this is happening to two of my machines, the machines are
very separate and have nothing in common other than the operating system. I
have updated window eyes on these machines previously.

On Sunday, December 20, 2015, Thomas J Heinl via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I have tried to install 9.3 by downloading the file and then installing
> it  and by checking for updates and then installing it.  In either case
> it asks me if I will let this program change the user account ( UAC ) and
> I say yes and then nothing happens.  I am using windowws 10 with
> window-eyes 9.2 needed for windows 10.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
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who at a squared do i send a site too

[McLeod Stinnett via Talk]

i want a staff member to look at a site but i forget who to send it too.
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Re: Loss of speech

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Interesting, I wonder why when I removed WE 9.3 and reinstalled WE 9.2, it 
works again?  I’m still running windows 7.

From: Curtis Delzer 
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 9:36 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Loss of speech

Russ, I had to re-install the drivers for my triple talk as well as unplug / 
re-plug in my synth so the drivers themselves would re-initialize. After a 
windows 10 update, not only did I have an issue with the USB triple talk, but 
my sound scheme I'd been using for years became corrupted and my computer would 
lock up when sounds were generated, certain sounds, not always the same ones. I 
solved it by just loading a default scheme and re-loading my "old friend" 
scheme. :)
This scheme contains many of the sounds which use to come with windows. :)

At 06:49 AM 12/19/2015, you wrote:

  Speaking of the loss of speech issue.  Is there anyone using WE 9.3 with a 
TripleTalk usb?  After I upgraded to 9.3, I had WLM 2012 crash several times 
when reading messages as well as lose speech.  I could hardly do anything 
without losing speech.  After I removd 9.3 and installed 9.2 everything works 
without any problems.  I'm using windows 7 home premium 64 bit with all updates.

  -Original Message- From: Dan Rathburn via Talk
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:37 PM
  To: t...@window-eyes.com
  Subject: Loss of speech


  Hello,

  I upgraded to WE 9.3.1 yesterday successfully.  However, this afternoon,
  I've lost speech and had to restart WE three times.  Twice, speech was lost
  after opening a link in an email in WLM 2009.  One was a Kepler update from
  NASA and the other was alink in an weekly update from the city of Royal Oak,
  Michigan.  The third loss of speech happened while using the OCR pportion of
  MP Navigator which came with my Canon scanner.  I haven't had this happen
  with WE for a very long time.  I'm using an Acer laptop with Windows 7 HP
  64-bit, I.E. 11 and the SAPI synthesizer.  The link from Royal Oak leads to
  weekly police reports in PDF format.  Loss of speech happened when Adobe
  Reader DC tried to open the PDF.

  I didn't have any of these problems with WE 9.2.

  Regards,

  Dan




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Re: Loss of speech

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Well, I might give it another try.  I'll also try using it with access32 to 
make sure it's not a WE 9.3 issue.


-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Loss of speech

I am using it with a tripple talk mini USB.  It works well, most of the
time.  Occasionally, it will shut up for about half a minute, then come
back.  When I first upgraded, it seemed slow, but whatever the problem was,
it seems to have mostly fixed itself.  I still wish I could use read-to-end
when composing an email, though.  That, of course, has nothing to do with
the tripple talk.  It used to be possible to do this in versions before
seven, I think.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 9:49 AM
To: Dan Rathburn ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Loss of speech

Speaking of the loss of speech issue.  Is there anyone using WE 9.3 with a
TripleTalk usb?  After I upgraded to 9.3, I had WLM 2012 crash several times
when reading messages as well as lose speech.  I could hardly do anything
without losing speech.  After I removd 9.3 and installed 9.2 everything
works without any problems.  I'm using windows 7 home premium 64 bit with
all updates.

-Original Message- 
From: Dan Rathburn via Talk

Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:37 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Loss of speech


Hello,

I upgraded to WE 9.3.1 yesterday successfully.  However, this afternoon,
I've lost speech and had to restart WE three times.  Twice, speech was lost
after opening a link in an email in WLM 2009.  One was a Kepler update from
NASA and the other was alink in an weekly update from the city of Royal Oak,
Michigan.  The third loss of speech happened while using the OCR pportion of
MP Navigator which came with my Canon scanner.  I haven't had this happen
with WE for a very long time.  I'm using an Acer laptop with Windows 7 HP
64-bit, I.E. 11 and the SAPI synthesizer.  The link from Royal Oak leads to
weekly police reports in PDF format.  Loss of speech happened when Adobe
Reader DC tried to open the PDF.

I didn't have any of these problems with WE 9.2.

Regards,

Dan




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Getting Eudora to Work properly in Windows 10

[Matthew Chao via Talk]

Hi, Folks.  Has anyone been able to get Eudora to work properly in 
Windows 10, and if so, how?  I recently upgraded to Windows 10, and left 
Eudora installed.  Also, reinstalled the factory settings/Eudora set 
files, as the ones I had disappeared.  Also maximized the child and 
parent windows (alt-hypen/x and alt-space/x) and still can't read the 
emails and navigate properly.  Is there anything I need to do to get 
Eudora working again, or is this a lost cause?  Thanks in 
advance.--Matthew Chao


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Corel Word Perfect and WE

[Don H via Talk]

How well does Corel Word Perfect work with WE on a Windows 10 system?
Thanks
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Re: who at a squared do i send a site too

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

I would just send it to wesupp...@aisquared.com and let them figure out who 
gets the message. I think that 2 or 3 staff members get those messages 
simultaneously anyway.




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http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: McLeod Stinnett via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:27 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: who at a squared do i send a site too

i want a staff member to look at a site but i forget who to send it too.
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Re: utube video

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This is Probably the hard way to do this, but this is what I do.  

I used Gold Wave to record the video playing.  

I then end the recording, edit the beginning and ending of this file,
and save it as an MP3 file.  

A second way is to use a web site that converts Youtube videos to MP3.


Start the video, then copy the URL.  Go to that Special web site and
Paste the URL into the correct spot.  Choose a Button labeled Convert
and it takes a few minutes.  

You are then able to download the newly created file.  

I am doing this on a Win 7 system with 9.3.  

Compared to recording with Gold Wave, using this Web Site is much
faster.  The web site converted a a45 minute video in just a few minutes. 
The problem I ran into, was that the web site notified me that I needed
to install something called Flash Player Pro.   Even though I had never
heard of this program, I chose to download and install it.  When I did
this, I started getting warned by AVG that this file is wanting to
install and it may not be a good idea.So I canceled the download of
the Flash Player Pro.  


I may try it again when I look up who and what Flash Player Pro is, and
if this works out, using the Web Site would be the fastest and cleanest
way to obtain an MP3 file of any video found on Youtube.  

Now you all are wanting to know the address to the Converting Web site,
so it is found below.  

http://2conv.com/


Dave




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Re: Corel Word Perfect and WE

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I attempted to use Word Perfect 13 with WE 8.4 back a few years ago.  WE
read very little in that edition of Word Perfect.  

As far as I know, there is no support in WE for any version of Word
Perfect.

Do not recall when WE stopped supporting Word Perfect, but it has
probably been at least 10 years ago.  

There is always the small word processor named Jart.  It is small and
has much less in the way of Features.  However, if all you really need
is basic editing and Spell Checking,  Jart works, and is what I now use,
as I dislike MS Word 2010 and beyond.  

I used Word Perfect up until version 8, when I was forced by my job to
switch over to MS Word.But, have missed Word Perfect.  Which just
proves I am an Old Dog that doesn't like New things, especially  when
the new things only add extra layers of complication.But then again,
I suspect there are some even older Goats that still miss Word Star!  

Dave




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