Re: Help Word Margins

[M Dorn via Talk]

In MS Word 2003 which I use, it's alt then f then u.  This gets you 
to the file menu and then page setup.  You start in the box for top 
margin.  You can either type in the number you want such as 1.5 for 1 
and a half inches, assuming your set up using inches as the unit of 
measure, or you can arrow up or down to adjust the value.  Tab to 
bottom and left and right margins and do the same thing in each 
one.  Then hit Enter for OK when you have what you like.


TTFN,
Marilyn

At 03:31 PM 2/16/2016, you wrote:

Need this right away.

How do I adjust margins in Word?




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Re: creating a contact group

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

So you put your multiple address group in BCC: so no one sees it.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Kim Lingo via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:22 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: creating a contact group

Hi everyone,
Please disregard my last message.  I figured it out, and then realized that
most people would not want to see their individual names on a list of other
people some of whom they didn't know.

Thanks, anyway,
Kim Lingo


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creating a contact group

[Kim Lingo via Talk]

Hi everyone,
Please disregard my last message.  I figured it out, and then realized that 
most people would not want to see their individual names on a list of other 
people some of whom they didn't know.


Thanks, anyway,
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FileZilla with virus and mouse keys

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
The latest version of FileZilla no longer works with the mouse keys and 
doing a Google search on the subject, discovered FillaZilla came with a 
virus.  The messages were dated last year so don't know if this problem 
has been fixed or not.  However, with the mouse keys no longer allowing 
access to the screen it is time to try something else.


So, can someone recommend a supported free FTP programme which works 
well with WE?



Thanks
Neville.


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slightly off-topic, but

[Kim Lingo via Talk]

I'm using Outlook Express.  Does anyone where I can find something about 
creating groups.  Right now, I have a lot of addresses to send things too. 
It would save a lot of time if I could just set something up, and do it with 
just a few key strokes.


I'd appreciate any info out there.
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just a test please ignore

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test from new email client

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Re: Help Word Margins

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

No I don't kid about computer problems. I sent you a link to a specific article 
on the topic you asked about. Double check the url in your browser and make 
sure it matches what I sent you. Copy and paste is your friend. 

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On February 16, 2016 7:05:10 PM Robert Ringwald  wrote:

> Are you kidding? There are hundreds of links on that site. I just keep going 
> around in circles.
>
> I need exact directions on how to get to margins in Word.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:54 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Help Word Margins
>
> This article should help: 
> http://www.gilsmethod.com/change-margins-word-2010.
> Regards,
> Marc
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>
> On February 16, 2016 6:33:43 PM Robert Ringwald via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
>> Need this right away.
>>
>> How do I adjust margins in Word?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
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>> they had the Bible and we had the land.
>> They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes.
>> When we opened them,
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Re: how to stop thunderbird repeting in the new window-eyes

[Alan Siman via Talk]

ii also have this all the time.  I suspect it has to do with emails in 
html or text format.  I cannot confirm this hypothesis since I cannot 
tell which emails are which but some emails repeat the first sentence 
and some do not.

On 2/16/2016 1:46 PM, Natalie via Talk wrote:
I have the same problem with Thunderbird repeating the subject line 
and Mozilla Thunderbird in the middle of messages.  It went away for 
the weekend but appeared again on Monday.  Thought it had repaired 
itself but no such luck.


Natalie

On 2/16/2016 4:26 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I have the latest window-eyes installed.
Now when I am reading A message in Thunderbird sometime it will be 
reading and then go along and `` what it just read.

Then it will read on like normal.
This only happens A few times.
So how do you make this not happen?




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Re: WE Vs. Fusion

[Reeva Webb via Talk]

Hi, approaching the end of my fusion trial. There's we key layout you can
change fusion to in settings. That's the first thing I changed.  It's
pretty much we and zt working good together finally. Outside of a couple
app hot keys i had to change there was no issue for me going from using we
and zt together  as seperate products to fusion.  Unfortunately, there
isn't a way to just restart the screenreader part. You have to restart the
whole program, which takes forever most likely due to the zt part though
ai2 said a update was ciming to help with this issue. I like it. If you're
in the   Really low vision boat like me and rely mostly on speech but still
use  magnifacation for some things fusion is a  program i suggest buying.

Reeva

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talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
>
>
> Haven't seen much on this list, but, I'm curious about fusion.
>
>
>
> How much like Window-Eyes is fusion if you turn off the ZoomText
> functionality?
>
>
>
> Looks rather similar, but, the hotkeys are different and I don't seem to
> see
> an option to restart the screen reader if things lock up.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, I almost have the feel I'm running Window-Eyes whenever I just
> use the screen reader part.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Bob, 
Can you provide a specific web page where you can't fill out a form and the 
steps to duplicate? I would like to try and duplicate the issue on my Win 8.1 
and 10 PCs.
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On February 16, 2016 6:57:53 PM bob jutzi via Talk  
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> Neglected to indicate that I've experienced both under Windows 8 and 10.
>
> On 2/16/2016 6:54 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
>> No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
>> I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms
>> in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues
>> with either using the free screen reader.
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
>>> in the past few months but here it is again.
>>>
>>> The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
>>> and W10.
>>> Neville.
>>>
>>> Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird
>>>
>>>
>>> Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
>>> accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
>>> WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
>>> assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
>>> case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.
>>>
>>>
>>> A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
>>> with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
>>> the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
>>> accessible as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work
>>> as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do
>>> try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e.
>>> Either positive or negative.
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Neville.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to
>>> find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the
>>> correct one to change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> block quote
>>>
>>> 1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter
>>>
>>> about:config
>>>
>>>   in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
>>> to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.
>>>
>>> 2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
>>> of options.
>>>
>>> 3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
>>> first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option
>>> in the
>>>
>>>
>>> list.
>>>
>>> the following are entries to search for:
>>>
>>>
>>> gfx.direct2d.disabled
>>>
>>> if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
>>>
>>> value to true.
>>>
>>>
>>> layers.acceleration.disabled
>>>
>>> if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
>>>
>>> value to true.
>>>
>>>
>>> layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled
>>>
>>> if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the
>>>
>>> value to false.
>>>
>>>
>>> press control+w to close the configuration window.
>>>
>>> restart Thunderbird/Firefox.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/02/2016 3:16 AM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:
 I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how
 to fix this. V

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 Behalf Of Casey via Talk
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox,
 and internet explorer

 Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
 How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox,
 Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
 I used to be able to do this.
 Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A
 repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
 But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I
 stated earlier in this message.
 all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
 When I try

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Re: Help Word Margins

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

Are you kidding? There are hundreds of links on that site. I just keep going 
around in circles.


I need exact directions on how to get to margins in Word.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:54 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Help Word Margins

This article should help: 
http://www.gilsmethod.com/change-margins-word-2010.

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On February 16, 2016 6:33:43 PM Robert Ringwald via Talk 
 wrote:



Need this right away.

How do I adjust margins in Word?




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Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[bob jutzi via Talk]

Neglected to indicate that I've experienced both under Windows 8 and 10.

On 2/16/2016 6:54 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms
in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues
with either using the free screen reader.


On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
in the past few months but here it is again.

The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
and W10.
Neville.

Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird


Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.


A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.


Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
accessible as well.


Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work
as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do
try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e.
Either positive or negative.


HTH

Neville.




This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.


The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to
find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the
correct one to change.



block quote

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter

about:config

  in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.

2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
of options.

3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option
in the


list.

the following are entries to search for:


gfx.direct2d.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.acceleration.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled

if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the

value to false.


press control+w to close the configuration window.

restart Thunderbird/Firefox.


On 17/02/2016 3:16 AM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how
to fix this. V

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox,
and internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox,
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try


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Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[bob jutzi via Talk]

No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms 
in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues 
with either using the free screen reader.



On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
in the past few months but here it is again.

The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
and W10.
Neville.

Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird


Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.


A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.


Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
accessible as well.


Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work
as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do
try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e.
Either positive or negative.


HTH

Neville.




This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.


The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to
find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the
correct one to change.



block quote

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter

about:config

  in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.

2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
of options.

3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option
in the


list.

the following are entries to search for:


gfx.direct2d.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.acceleration.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled

if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the

value to false.


press control+w to close the configuration window.

restart Thunderbird/Firefox.


On 17/02/2016 3:16 AM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how
to fix this. V

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[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox,
and internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox,
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try


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Re: Help Word Margins

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

This article should help: http://www.gilsmethod.com/change-margins-word-2010.
Regards, 
Marc

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On February 16, 2016 6:33:43 PM Robert Ringwald via Talk 
 wrote:

> Need this right away.
>
> How do I adjust margins in Word?
>
>
>
>
> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet 
> Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
> 916/ 806-9551
> Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV
>
> "When the white missionaries came to Africa,
> they had the Bible and we had the land.
> They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes.
> When we opened them, 
> we had the Bible and they had the land."
> ~ Desmond Tutu
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Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times 
in the past few months but here it is again.


The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8 
and W10.

Neville.

Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird


Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird 
accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use 
WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted 
assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the 
case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.



A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success 
with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with 
the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.



Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse 
accessible as well.



Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work 
as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do 
try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e. 
Either positive or negative.



HTH

Neville.




This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.


The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to 
find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the 
correct one to change.




block quote

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter

about:config

 in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate 
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.


2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list 
of options.


3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the 
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option 
in the



list.

the following are entries to search for:


gfx.direct2d.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.acceleration.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled

if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the

value to false.


press control+w to close the configuration window.

restart Thunderbird/Firefox.


On 17/02/2016 3:16 AM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how to fix 
this. V

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox,
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try


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Help Word Margins

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

Need this right away.

How do I adjust margins in Word?




Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet 
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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they had the Bible and we had the land.
They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes.
When we opened them, 
we had the Bible and they had the land."
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RE: Windows10 Start Item

[Alex Yray via Talk]

What I have done is make short-cuts to the desk-top.  Everything you need
will be there whenever you need them!

Aloha,

Alex

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+alex.liberty=hawaii.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:25 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Windows10 Start Item

How do we navigate the start item to find things?
I have had mixed results using the arrow keys and have on occasion heard
things like the weather and even a Get Office item read but then cant find
them when looking for them.
I can find a bunch of usual suspects over and over using the arrow keys but
others I can not find but know they are there since I hear them from time to
time.
What is the solid, consistent and reliable way of finding everything in that
start item?
I look under the Life At A Glance I think but not even sure about that.
Rick USA

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Re: forms mode:

[Tony C via Talk]

Hi, yes, that's been happening for a while now. Ctrl shift a will work.

-Original Message- 
From: Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:01 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: forms mode:

Hi when searching for something in youtube I've noticed that window-eyes
doesn't exit out of forms mode after you press enter. I've tried
pressing escape but it didn't work.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
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WE Vs. Fusion

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi:

 

Haven't seen much on this list, but, I'm curious about fusion.

 

How much like Window-Eyes is fusion if you turn off the ZoomText
functionality?

 

Looks rather similar, but, the hotkeys are different and I don't seem to see
an option to restart the screen reader if things lock up.

 

Otherwise, I almost have the feel I'm running Window-Eyes whenever I just
use the screen reader part.

 

Thanks!

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forms mode:

[Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk]

Hi when searching for something in youtube I've noticed that window-eyes 
doesn't exit out of forms mode after you press enter. I've tried 
pressing escape but it didn't work.

Kenny Peyatt jr.
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Re: Dan is retiring

[Norene Trappa via Talk]

Thank you for making Window-Eyes a good product over the years.  I 
appreciate that.  Enjoy your retirement wherever it may lead.


Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Dan Weirich via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:39 AM
To: Dan Weirich
Subject: Dan is retiring

I am retiring.

My career in the Assistive Technology industry started in the late 80's, 
working for Computer Aids Corp. for a couple years, where I met Doug 
Geoffray.  Then I partnered with Doug to launch GW Micro in 1990 which 
operated for 24 years, followed by our merging into Ai Squared in 2014.  So 
now, after almost 28 years in the AT industry, it's time for me to take a 
break.  I will be retired from Ai Squared after this week.  No worries - the 
rest of the Fort Wayne office and staff will continue as normal - whatever 
normal means .


I'm not very active on this list but I look at many of the posts and I know 
many of your names even if we rarely talk on the phone or meet in person.  I 
will continue to support Ai Squared and if the opportunity presents itself 
who knows - I might come back for a few special projects from time to time. 
Thank you very much for your support and friendship.


One thing I understand - this industry is very different from all others. 
The people I know not only want to stay active, employed or stay in business 
but they also want to make the world a better place by providing quality 
products and services.  You should all be proud of whatever contribution you 
personally make.


Thank you all again for your friendship and loyalty over the many years.

Take care,

Dan

Daniel R. Weirich
VP of Strategic Programs
AI Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN  46825
www.gwmicro.com
www.aisquared.com
802-362-3612 ext. 201

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Re: how to stop thunderbird repeting in the new window-eyes

[Natalie via Talk]

I have the same problem with Thunderbird repeating the subject line and 
Mozilla Thunderbird in the middle of messages.  It went away for the 
weekend but appeared again on Monday.  Thought it had repaired itself 
but no such luck.


Natalie

On 2/16/2016 4:26 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I have the latest window-eyes installed.
Now when I am reading A message in Thunderbird sometime it will be 
reading and then go along and `` what it just read.

Then it will read on like normal.
This only happens A few times.
So how do you make this not happen?




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how to stop thunderbird repeting in the new window-eyes

[Casey via Talk]

Hi I have the latest window-eyes installed.
Now when I am reading A message in Thunderbird sometime it will be 
reading and then go along and `` what it just read.

Then it will read on like normal.
This only happens A few times.
So how do you make this not happen?


--
Casey
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Re: running the new window-eyes and opened live mail and woudl like toknow how do adjust something in it

[net bat via Talk]

make sure the wlm app is installed and running first.
browse mode is suppose to be off when composeing your message. but it is 
suppose to turn off automatically when you reply to a message.
also make sure the windowslivemail.set file is associated with the main screen, 
the reply and incomeing message windows. each window use to have to be 
associated with the set file.



-Original Message- 
From: Casey via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: running the new window-eyes and opened live mail and woudl like toknow 
how do adjust something in it


Hi I have not finally been able to get and install the latest window-eyes.
And now when I go and open windows live mail and get to the body of
where I can type the text of  A message.
And I hit the shift key and capitalize the first letter of my sentence t says 
now heading or links or something like that.

So I have to turn browse mode off.
So how do I fix that from happening in windows live mail?


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running the new window-eyes and opened live mail and woudl like to know how do adjust something in it

[Casey via Talk]

Hi I have not finally been able to get and install the latest window-eyes.
And now when I go and open windows live mail and get to the body of 
where I can type the text of  A message.
And I hit the shift key and capitalize the first letter of my sentence 
it says now heading or links or something like that.

So I have to turn browse mode off.
So how do I fix that from happening in windows live mail?


--
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RE: WE

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Not sure about MacAfee, but AVG can create focus issues when the system 
retrieves mail or updates etc.
>From within AVG go to options/advance and turn off   display system tray 
>notifications.
They aren't needed and can cause focus issues.
If you want alerts, assign sounds to AVG events.


Window-Eyes Product Support
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Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
 


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 4:12 PM
To: Karyn Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: WE

I'm using Mcaffee on my windows 10 pc and AVG on my windows 8 machine.

-Original Message- 
From: Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:07 PM
To: 'Tom Kingston' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: WE

In the case of Web Root Security Anywhere, it was not white-listed.  This 
means that the antivirus  software grabs some of the DLL files and corrupts 
your installation of WE.

We know this as we have experience with it on both a Windows 8.1 machine as 
well as a Windows 10 machine.  Chris Grabowski confirmed that this product 
did not white-list WE.

We finally got Web Root Security Anywhere removed from both machines with 
the help of Best Buy's Geek Squad.  Once this was done, Ray re-installed 9.0 
on the Windows 8.1 machine and downloaded 9.3 and all is working as it 
should.

He was unable to use the installation he had on our external hard drive as 
Web Root corrupted that installation.  For this reason, he went  to AI 
Squared's website and downloaded 9.3 for my Windows 10 mahine as the method 
he used for the Windows 8.1 machine would not work. I am happy to say that I 
am now running WE 9.3 on this machine and I'm one happy camper.

If anyone offers you Web Root Security Anywhere, run from it as it grabs DLL 
files and corrupts your WE installation.

I would agree that accessibility of antivirus packages is the next frontier 
in accessibility to technology.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com and likely Viper 
Antivirus on both machines.
Using WE   9.3 on HP Pavilion running Windows 8.1 with Office 2013 and I.E. 
11 as well as Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013 
and I.E. 11 as default browser and Viper Antivirus on boht machines.




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RE: Dan is retiring

[Josh Rivera via Talk]

May God's blessings go with you, Dan, as you enter this next phase of your
life. Thanks for a fine product.
Josh


 
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Weirich via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:39 PM
To: Dan Weirich
Subject: Dan is retiring

I am retiring.

My career in the Assistive Technology industry started in the late 80's,
working for Computer Aids Corp. for a couple years, where I met Doug
Geoffray.  Then I partnered with Doug to launch GW Micro in 1990 which
operated for 24 years, followed by our merging into Ai Squared in 2014.  So
now, after almost 28 years in the AT industry, it's time for me to take a
break.  I will be retired from Ai Squared after this week.  No worries - the
rest of the Fort Wayne office and staff will continue as normal - whatever
normal means .

I'm not very active on this list but I look at many of the posts and I know
many of your names even if we rarely talk on the phone or meet in person.  I
will continue to support Ai Squared and if the opportunity presents itself
who knows - I might come back for a few special projects from time to time.
Thank you very much for your support and friendship.

One thing I understand - this industry is very different from all others.
The people I know not only want to stay active, employed or stay in business
but they also want to make the world a better place by providing quality
products and services.  You should all be proud of whatever contribution you
personally make.

Thank you all again for your friendship and loyalty over the many years.

Take care,

Dan

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Saving PDF files

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I'm sure you probably already told us how to do this, but could you remind me 
once again.
Also, if I have Open Book installed in my computer, aren't I suppose to be able 
to read scanned documents that someone sends to me?
Sometimes I feel so confused.
V
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RE: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how to fix 
this. V  

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox, 
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A 
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I 
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try
-- 
Casey
to read with the mouse keys in any of those programs.
I am soon going to upgrade to the latest version of window-eyes.
So then will that fix this also?

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RE: WE

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Jonathan:
This well could be the case.
Vbs is no longer supported by the Microsoft browsers either.
Perhaps this is one reason why.
There may also be problems because of the multi-threading nature of the newer 
operating systems and the Microsoft Framework classes which also are using more 
and more async processing as well.
I don’t know for sure but the bones of WindowEyes are getting pretty old and 
brittle me thinks as I remember them from many years ago and I don’t think they 
have changed that much.
Rick USA

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RE: the pronouncing dictionary

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If you know where the entry is that you want to delete--for example, if
you're certain the entry is in excp.dic--then you can do this.

Control backslash to open the WE control panel.
Alt-F for file, E for explore profile folder.
The list of your set files, character dictionaries, pronunciation
dictionaries, etcetera is presented.
Press the first letter of the dictionary name until you land on it.
Press the application key or Shift-F10 to open the context menu and choose
the open with menu item.
When the dialog opens, choose notepad and press enter.
Notepad launches and you are presented with a list of dictionaries. Here is
an example of part of my excp.dic contents that I copied from Notepad.

anapest=annapest
golive=go live
nietzsche=neetcheh
amphibrach=amfuhbrack
teotihuacan=tayoateewahcan

If I wanted to remove the amphibrach entry, I would put the cursor at the
beginning of the line containing the entry, then press Shift-End to
highlight the word and its replacement. The delete key removes the entry and
then I'd save the dictionary with Control-S.

After removing an entry in this way, you must restart WE.

You can remove an entry from within the WE control panel by navigating to
the dictionary node in the settings tree view as well. To me, all that
tabbing to the include program check box and then to the pronunciation
dictionary node and then to the list of dictionaries and then to the
dictionary contents is slower and relatively clunky, but it can be
accomplished in less than a day, I'll bet. Things get a bit more complicated
if the program has its own dictionary. Before you can find an entry in the
program dictionary, you must first visit the dictionaries> status dialog and
check the include program dictionary check box and save the setting. Then
you must select your dictionary from the list of available dictionaries. Tab
tab tab tab.

By the way. Why have accelerators been removed from some of the WE dialogs?
Now, instead of Alt-k for cursoring keys, it's tab tab tab and shift tab
shift tab shift tab. The cursoring key first action used to say I first
action and now that accelerator no longer works. The problem seems to be
with edit boxes, combo boxes and list views in WE itself. Was this
purposeful or is it a glitch, or maybe just an oversight?

Hope I helped and didn't confuse you,
Lou N.

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:14 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: the pronouncing dictionary

So do you happen to know how to change or delete a word in the how to
pronounce it dictionary?
Veronica


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Re: sleep mode again.

[Don H via Talk]

That is one of the reasons that I went back to version 9.2 of WE.  I 
reported this issue to Ai Squared and was told it was no big deal and 
would be low on priority list to be resolved.


On 2/16/2016 3:51 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:

Hi guys people was having trouble with WE after waking computer up.
Its just started for me after I woke laptop up we spoke a few words but would 
not speek in the eddit field to for the password.
This is on win 10 and latest WE.
Cheers Michael.
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RE: Starting Narrator in Windows 7

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Narrator is the Microsoft Screen Reader of sorts.
I don't know how you start and stop it in windows7 but the windows key and
enter will start it in windows10.
It is not very good as an intuitive screen reader but in windows10 you can
set it to read items, characters, words etc... and it helps in debugging
problems where windoweyes is not speaking.
Often when WindowEyes wont speak I can fire up narrator move around the page
or form and windoweyes will come back and I then turn narrator off.
Rick USA


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Patricia Krinke via Talk
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 10:23 AM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Starting Narrator in Windows 7

GGood morning,

What does narrator do?


Trish

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From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:18 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Starting Narrator in Windows 7

First is windows key plus u and then press alt plus n for Narrator.
On 2/10/2016 8:25 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
> Hi, Folks.  I need to install Window-Eyes on a new computer.  How do I get

> Narrator going so I can finish the WE installation?  thanks in 
> advance.--Matthew Chao
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Windows10 Start Item

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

How do we navigate the start item to find things?
I have had mixed results using the arrow keys and have on occasion heard
things like the weather and even a Get Office item read but then cant find
them when looking for them.
I can find a bunch of usual suspects over and over using the arrow keys but
others I can not find but know they are there since I hear them from time to
time.
What is the solid, consistent and reliable way of finding everything in that
start item?
I look under the Life At A Glance I think but not even sure about that.
Rick USA

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sleep mode again.

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

Hi guys people was having trouble with WE after waking computer up.
Its just started for me after I woke laptop up we spoke a few words but would 
not speek in the eddit field to for the password.
This is on win 10 and latest WE.
Cheers Michael.
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RE: another odd win 10

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Again:
After having starting narrator during typing the last message in outlook
WindowEyes is now returning to the desktop when I hit alt-f4 and I ran
another program, closed it with alt-f4 and WindowEyes returned to the
desktop.
Before this closing with alt-f4 was returning me to the taskbar.
How do I even guess at what might be going on unless it has something to do
with a WindowEyes script or one of the executables it has running in the
background or whatever?
Any ideas how to narrow down the source of these problems like what app or
automatic event is causing WindowEyes to get confused?
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:19 AM
To: 'Tony C' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: another odd win 10

Hi: This has been happening to me as well lately.
I will open a program, do some work and close it and I end up on the task
bar, either the start item or if focus is lost during working in the program
sometimes in the view task button item on the task bar instead of being
returned to the desktop.
Also, often when WE seemingly locks up if I tab I find I have been placed in
the task bar even if in other programs and especially when things start
slowing down, we starts locking up for a few seconds etc...
It seems WE is struggling at figuring out where focus should be, where the
user is working or where something is going on someplace in the task bar.
Also, sometimes, all the time pretty much, if I boot up and sit for a few
seconds on the desktop I hear WindowEyes speak the words "Clear Button" and
then WE is locked up as far as the arrow keys are concerned and I think I
find myself in the task bar once again.
Tabbing will get me back but there sure sounds like there are some problems
with how WindowEyes is handling automatic dynamic actions occuring in
Windows10 when it comes to the insertion point and the focus positions.
Finally, when WE locks up if I fire up narrator I hear WindowEyes, not
narrator, speak "Give Us Feedback" then narrator will say "Starting
Narrator" I forget if window eyes speaks the "Give us feedback" before or
after narrator says "starting narrator" will now start narrator while typing
to see...
OK WE speaks, while in this message, "Give us feedback" before narrator
starts speaking.
I closed narrator and WindowEyes was locked up, no arrow keys until I tabbed
and WE then came back so I could type but there was a tab character in this
message - I removed it, but that indicates that focus and the insertion
point were not in the same place or something along those lines which sounds
like what allot of these problems may be related to for WindowEyes.
Rick USA

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RE: another odd win 10

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: This has been happening to me as well lately.
I will open a program, do some work and close it and I end up on the task bar, 
either the start item or if focus is lost during working in the program 
sometimes in the view task button item on the task bar instead of being 
returned to the desktop.
Also, often when WE seemingly locks up if I tab I find I have been placed in 
the task bar even if in other programs and especially when things start slowing 
down, we starts locking up for a few seconds etc...
It seems WE is struggling at figuring out where focus should be, where the user 
is working or where something is going on someplace in the task bar.
Also, sometimes, all the time pretty much, if I boot up and sit for a few 
seconds on the desktop I hear WindowEyes speak the words "Clear Button" and 
then WE is locked up as far as the arrow keys are concerned and I think I find 
myself in the task bar once again.
Tabbing will get me back but there sure sounds like there are some problems 
with how WindowEyes is handling automatic dynamic actions occuring in Windows10 
when it comes to the insertion point and the focus positions.
Finally, when WE locks up if I fire up narrator I hear WindowEyes, not 
narrator, speak "Give Us Feedback" then narrator will say "Starting Narrator" I 
forget if window eyes speaks the "Give us feedback" before or after narrator 
says "starting narrator" will now start narrator while typing to see...
OK WE speaks, while in this message, "Give us feedback" before narrator starts 
speaking.
I closed narrator and WindowEyes was locked up, no arrow keys until I tabbed 
and WE then came back so I could type but there was a tab character in this 
message - I removed it, but that indicates that focus and the insertion point 
were not in the same place or something along those lines which sounds like 
what allot of these problems may be related to for WindowEyes.
Rick USA

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