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RE: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Rick,

In my Windows 10 Home edition, I used Windows Update, and, in that dialog,
the Check for updates button, and, once the Install updates button appeared,
that is, after the update downloaded, the new version was installed.
Now, on another version of Windows 10, this time Ultimate within a virtual
machine, I noticed that I am still running Windows 10 1511 and it is
reported that I am up to date.
I'll have to check on that over the next while and see if thre is another
update available for Ultimate.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 6:28 PM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

Hi Rod et All:
I run windows 10 v 1511 I think with WE 9.5 I think.
As mentioned we need to get the W10 anniversery edition for screen readers.
Did you download the Media Creation tool you posted the url to and how does
that work to download the free upgrade or does it?
Does the Media Creation tool have you enter the url of the free version for
screen reader users or what does the process look or sound like as you
download and install?
I am running W 8.1 currently and sure would like to avoid all the problems
if I can.
Rick USA

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Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 5:23 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen reader.
you
have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will allow you to

get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29

copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate because it
is wrapping to the next line.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI
6mQ)()

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From: net bat
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI
6mQ)() 

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RE: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

In future, to make your life easier, try this site for shortening URLs:

https://bitly.com/

Ergo, the URL you supplied is:

http://bit.ly/2b03nG7

hth,

Rod

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Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 5:23 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen reader.
you have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will allow
you to get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29

copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate because it
is wrapping to the next line.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI
6mQ)()

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From: net bat
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI
6mQ)() 

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Re: netflix accessibility

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

no,i use the apple tv 3 and now 4 very accessible with voice over.

-Original Message- 
From: Brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:32 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: netflix accessibility

Do you use a smart phone? The netflix app is doable.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Thomas via Talk" 

To: "'Rod Hutton'" ; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'"
; "'net bat'" 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: netflix accessibility

Hi: I use Netflix but I don't think it is very accessible.
I can pick a show to watch from those listed on the opening web page or type
something into the search box and often get some listings.
I have to turn browse mode off to tab through the shows to watch and
sometimes they start and other times I have to tab around the page that
comes up and either click play with browse mode on or off, just have to
fiddle around a little sometimes.
I think there are allot more shows to watch than I get in a single web page
listing but I have not found how to get them but there are allot to choose
through anyway.
I also can turn on browse mode to read around the pages and sometimes can
click something, sometimes I can click a heading and get more listings for a
category or click the more button to get more choices.
The trick is to scout around with browse mode on and then with it off for
each page you are on and that is about the best I have been able to do so
far.
I have watched many tv shows, hundreds and hundreds of episodes so it can be
done but it sucks and Netflix nor WindowEyes has come up with a decent
solution in the past few years as accessibility gets worse and worse.
As for pausing and ReStarting there is a button to Play/Pause on the page
that is displayed when a show is playing but it takes a few minutes after
the show starts to appear on the page.
That's all I have for now. What has your experience been trying to use
Netflix lately?
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:13 PM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: netflix accessibility

Some time back, they used Microsoft Silverlight which opened within the
browser, and, at that time, I got it to work quite well.
I don't have a subscription right now, and so I am just wondering, does it
still use Silverlight?

Thanks,

Rod

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Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: netflix accessibility

no, netflix is missing something, an accessible app.
there app for  windows is not accessible. i don't know about the i pad app.
it works great on the apple tv 3 and now 4. i have both.

-Original Message-
From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: netflix question

Has anyone had any luck using netflix with WE? I just tried it and I hear
nothing and then a play button, nothing then a play button. Am I missing
something?
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ

-Original Message- 
From: Patricia Krinke

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:33 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

IF you find the secret web site, please send the address to the rest of us.
Thank you,

Trish

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:22 PM
To: via Talk
Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen reader.
you
have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will allow you to
get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29

copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate because it
is
wrapping to the next line.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ)()

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ)()

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Re: netflix accessibility

2016-08-06 Thread Brice Mijares via Talk

Do you use a smart phone? The netflix app is doable.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Thomas via Talk" 
To: "'Rod Hutton'" ; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
; "'net bat'" 

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: netflix accessibility

Hi: I use Netflix but I don't think it is very accessible.
I can pick a show to watch from those listed on the opening web page or 
type

something into the search box and often get some listings.
I have to turn browse mode off to tab through the shows to watch and
sometimes they start and other times I have to tab around the page that
comes up and either click play with browse mode on or off, just have to
fiddle around a little sometimes.
I think there are allot more shows to watch than I get in a single web 
page

listing but I have not found how to get them but there are allot to choose
through anyway.
I also can turn on browse mode to read around the pages and sometimes can
click something, sometimes I can click a heading and get more listings for 
a

category or click the more button to get more choices.
The trick is to scout around with browse mode on and then with it off for
each page you are on and that is about the best I have been able to do so
far.
I have watched many tv shows, hundreds and hundreds of episodes so it can 
be

done but it sucks and Netflix nor WindowEyes has come up with a decent
solution in the past few years as accessibility gets worse and worse.
As for pausing and ReStarting there is a button to Play/Pause on the page
that is displayed when a show is playing but it takes a few minutes after
the show starts to appear on the page.
That's all I have for now. What has your experience been trying to use
Netflix lately?
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:13 PM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: netflix accessibility

Some time back, they used Microsoft Silverlight which opened within the
browser, and, at that time, I got it to work quite well.
I don't have a subscription right now, and so I am just wondering, does it
still use Silverlight?

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf

Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: netflix accessibility

no, netflix is missing something, an accessible app.
there app for  windows is not accessible. i don't know about the i pad 
app.

it works great on the apple tv 3 and now 4. i have both.

-Original Message-
From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: netflix question

Has anyone had any luck using netflix with WE? I just tried it and I hear
nothing and then a play button, nothing then a play button. Am I missing
something?
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-06 Thread Patricia Krinke via Talk

IF you find the secret web site, please send the address to the rest of us. 
Thank you,



Trish

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:22 PM
To: via Talk
Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen reader. 
you

have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will allow you to
get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29

copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate because it 
is

wrapping to the next line.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ)()

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ)()

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RE: netflix accessibility

2016-08-06 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi: I use Netflix but I don't think it is very accessible.
I can pick a show to watch from those listed on the opening web page or type
something into the search box and often get some listings.
I have to turn browse mode off to tab through the shows to watch and
sometimes they start and other times I have to tab around the page that
comes up and either click play with browse mode on or off, just have to
fiddle around a little sometimes.
I think there are allot more shows to watch than I get in a single web page
listing but I have not found how to get them but there are allot to choose
through anyway.
I also can turn on browse mode to read around the pages and sometimes can
click something, sometimes I can click a heading and get more listings for a
category or click the more button to get more choices.
The trick is to scout around with browse mode on and then with it off for
each page you are on and that is about the best I have been able to do so
far.
I have watched many tv shows, hundreds and hundreds of episodes so it can be
done but it sucks and Netflix nor WindowEyes has come up with a decent
solution in the past few years as accessibility gets worse and worse.
As for pausing and ReStarting there is a button to Play/Pause on the page
that is displayed when a show is playing but it takes a few minutes after
the show starts to appear on the page.
That's all I have for now. What has your experience been trying to use
Netflix lately?
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:13 PM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: netflix accessibility

Some time back, they used Microsoft Silverlight which opened within the
browser, and, at that time, I got it to work quite well.
I don't have a subscription right now, and so I am just wondering, does it
still use Silverlight?

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
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Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: netflix accessibility

no, netflix is missing something, an accessible app.
there app for  windows is not accessible. i don't know about the i pad app.
it works great on the apple tv 3 and now 4. i have both.

-Original Message-
From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: netflix question

Has anyone had any luck using netflix with WE? I just tried it and I hear
nothing and then a play button, nothing then a play button. Am I missing
something?
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RE: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-06 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi Rod et All:
I run windows 10 v 1511 I think with WE 9.5 I think.
As mentioned we need to get the W10 anniversery edition for screen readers.
Did you download the Media Creation tool you posted the url to and how does
that work to download the free upgrade or does it?
Does the Media Creation tool have you enter the url of the free version for
screen reader users or what does the process look or sound like as you
download and install?
I am running W 8.1 currently and sure would like to avoid all the problems
if I can.
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 5:23 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen reader.
you 
have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will allow you to

get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29

copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate because it
is 
wrapping to the next line.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI
6mQ)()

-Original Message- 
From: net bat
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI
6mQ)() 

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen reader. you 
have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will allow you to 
get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29


copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate because it is 
wrapping to the next line.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ)()

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ)() 


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Re: WE 9.5.1 and aut start problem

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk


i got it.
i had to set it to allways load on the desktop. if i used the global options it 
would keep reverting to never load. even when i saved the settings.


-Original Message- 
From: Martha

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 11:21 AM
To: net...@comcast.net
Subject: WE 9.5.1 and aut start problem

Hi.

Are you still having the problem with the WE general setting?
If so, has AI Squared had any response/fix?

I have not yet done the Windows 10 Anniversary update.

Thanks.

Martha 


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Re: Getting my Classic Shell Back

2016-08-06 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk

As I recall, a year or more ago, there was some talk about later 
versions of this program's configuration not working with window-eyes. 
Does this now work?

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Don H via Talk wrote:

Download the newest version of Classic shell and reinstall.  I think it is 
version 4.3.  Works fine on the anniversary version of Win 10


On 8/6/2016 8:25 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:

 Hi, Folks.  My desktop system automatically upgraded to Windows 10
 Anniversary Edition.  When it did, however, it took away my classic
 start menu I used under the Classic Shell program.  How do I get this
 back?  Do I need to reinstall it?  Thabnks.--Matthew Chao



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Re: installing win 10 anaversory.

2016-08-06 Thread via Talk

I did not have to uninstall WE when I went from Windows 7 to 10, I just
had to run the upgrade file and the correct video drivers were then
installed.

net bat  wrote:

> if it is an upgrade version of w e 9.2 or higher it will only run as a
> demo if it installs at all.
> i would uninstall it before upgradeing from win7 anyway because win10
> uses different sound and video drivers then windows 7. they are not
> the same.
> you would not have the problems of haveing to install w e twice and
> haveing to run the w e diagnostic test to do the repairs it would have
> to do to get it working.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: cov...@ccs.covici.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:10 AM
> To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: john_far...@btinternet.com
> Subject: Re: installing win 10 anaversory.
> 
> If you have a recent version of window-eyes, you can go from windows 7
> to 10, but after you do, you have to install the upgrade file over
> itself and it does have to be later  or equal 9.4, if I remember
> correctly.
> 
> net bat via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > first thing. make a complete windows 7  system backup. incase the
> > upgrade fails.
> > when you go from win 7 to win 10 anaversory i think you will still
> > have to uninstall window eyes because win 10 uses different display
> > technology
> > you would need a full version of window eyes 9.2 or higher before you
> > start. older versions will not work.
> > upgrade disks will not work. they would run as a demo if they install at 
> > all.
> > make sure you have a internet connection. sometimes it will not find a
> > sound card driver. but if you have some u s b speakers or  a u s b
> > head set it should work.
> > it should go to the desktop in about 1 hour after you start the 
> > installation.
> > when it does press windows and enter to turn narrator on or off . then
> > you will have some speech to start the window eyes installation.
> >
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: John Farley via Talk
> > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 6:59 AM
> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant
> > saysthe display driver is blocking installation
> >
> > Hello Chris,
> >
> > In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could you also
> > let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 Pro environment
> > to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be done with Window-Eyes
> > alone? That is, there is no need to run any other screen reader in order to
> > complete the process.
> >
> > I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process with
> > success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> > Regards, John
> >
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
> > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> > Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
> > To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says
> > the display driver is blocking installation
> >
> > Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any
> > display error issues.
> > I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.
> >
> > I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues up
> > until the first reboot.
> > To Be Continued...
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Ai Squared Support
> > Ai Squared
> > 725 Airport North Office Park
> > Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> > (802) 362-3612
> > www.aisquared.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> > Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
> > To: via Talk 
> > Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the
> > display driver is blocking installation
> >
> > as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone
> > else
> > is trying to use.
> > it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
> > this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
> > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
> >
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Bob Tinney
> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
> > To: net bat
> > Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking
> > installation
> >
> > NetBat,
> >
> >
> > The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
> > anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!
> >
> >
> > I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
> > didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
> > when I tried this upgrade.
> >
> >
> > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
> >
> >

Re: installing win 10 anaversory.

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

if it is an upgrade version of w e 9.2 or higher it will only run as a demo if 
it installs at all.
i would uninstall it before upgradeing from win7 anyway because win10 uses 
different sound and video drivers then windows 7. they are not the same.
you would not have the problems of haveing to install w e twice and haveing to 
run the w e diagnostic test to do the repairs it would have to do to get it 
working.


-Original Message- 
From: cov...@ccs.covici.com

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:10 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: john_far...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: installing win 10 anaversory.

If you have a recent version of window-eyes, you can go from windows 7
to 10, but after you do, you have to install the upgrade file over
itself and it does have to be later  or equal 9.4, if I remember
correctly.

net bat via Talk  wrote:


first thing. make a complete windows 7  system backup. incase the
upgrade fails.
when you go from win 7 to win 10 anaversory i think you will still
have to uninstall window eyes because win 10 uses different display
technology
you would need a full version of window eyes 9.2 or higher before you
start. older versions will not work.
upgrade disks will not work. they would run as a demo if they install at all.
make sure you have a internet connection. sometimes it will not find a
sound card driver. but if you have some u s b speakers or  a u s b
head set it should work.
it should go to the desktop in about 1 hour after you start the installation.
when it does press windows and enter to turn narrator on or off . then
you will have some speech to start the window eyes installation.

-Original Message- 
From: John Farley via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 6:59 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant
saysthe display driver is blocking installation

Hello Chris,

In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could you also
let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 Pro environment
to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be done with Window-Eyes
alone? That is, there is no need to run any other screen reader in order to
complete the process.

I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process with
success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.

?


Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says
the display driver is blocking installation

Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any
display error issues.
I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.

I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues up
until the first reboot.
To Be Continued...
Chris


Ai Squared Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the
display driver is blocking installation

as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone
else
is trying to use.
it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking
installation

NetBat,


The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!


I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
when I tried this upgrade.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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Re: installing win 10 anaversory.

2016-08-06 Thread via Talk

You may be correct, I didn't remember whether it was 9.4 or 9.5.1, but
they fixed quite a bit for 9.5.1, so people should get that anyway.

Rod Hutton  wrote:

> Actually, prior to the anniversary version WE 9.2 would have sufficed, but,
> with the anniversary, it would have to be 9.5.1.
> This is my understanding, anyway. smile
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:11 PM
> To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: installing win 10 anaversory.
> 
> If you have a recent version of window-eyes, you can go from windows 7 to
> 10, but after you do, you have to install the upgrade file over itself and
> it does have to be later  or equal 9.4, if I remember correctly.
> 
> net bat via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > first thing. make a complete windows 7  system backup. incase the 
> > upgrade fails.
> > when you go from win 7 to win 10 anaversory i think you will still 
> > have to uninstall window eyes because win 10 uses different display 
> > technology you would need a full version of window eyes 9.2 or higher 
> > before you start. older versions will not work.
> > upgrade disks will not work. they would run as a demo if they install at
> all.
> > make sure you have a internet connection. sometimes it will not find a 
> > sound card driver. but if you have some u s b speakers or  a u s b 
> > head set it should work.
> > it should go to the desktop in about 1 hour after you start the
> installation.
> > when it does press windows and enter to turn narrator on or off . then 
> > you will have some speech to start the window eyes installation.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Farley via Talk
> > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 6:59 AM
> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant 
> > saysthe display driver is blocking installation
> > 
> > Hello Chris,
> > 
> > In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could 
> > you also let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 
> > Pro environment to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be 
> > done with Window-Eyes alone? That is, there is no need to run any 
> > other screen reader in order to complete the process.
> > 
> > I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process 
> > with success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > 
> > Regards, John
> > 
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
> > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> > On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
> > To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant 
> > says the display driver is blocking installation
> > 
> > Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any 
> > display error issues.
> > I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.
> > 
> > I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues 
> > up until the first reboot.
> > To Be Continued...
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > Ai Squared Support
> > Ai Squared
> > 725 Airport North Office Park
> > Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> > (802) 362-3612
> > www.aisquared.com
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> > On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
> > To: via Talk 
> > Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says 
> > the display driver is blocking installation
> > 
> > as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that 
> > everyone else is trying to use.
> > it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
> > this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
> > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bob Tinney
> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
> > To: net bat
> > Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking 
> > installation
> > 
> > NetBat,
> > 
> > 
> > The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10 
> > anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!
> > 
> > 
> > I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but 
> > I didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool 
> > when I tried this upgrade.
> > 
> > 
> > Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
> > 
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RE: installing win 10 anaversory.

2016-08-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Actually, prior to the anniversary version WE 9.2 would have sufficed, but,
with the anniversary, it would have to be 9.5.1.
This is my understanding, anyway. smile

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:11 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: installing win 10 anaversory.

If you have a recent version of window-eyes, you can go from windows 7 to
10, but after you do, you have to install the upgrade file over itself and
it does have to be later  or equal 9.4, if I remember correctly.

net bat via Talk  wrote:

> first thing. make a complete windows 7  system backup. incase the 
> upgrade fails.
> when you go from win 7 to win 10 anaversory i think you will still 
> have to uninstall window eyes because win 10 uses different display 
> technology you would need a full version of window eyes 9.2 or higher 
> before you start. older versions will not work.
> upgrade disks will not work. they would run as a demo if they install at
all.
> make sure you have a internet connection. sometimes it will not find a 
> sound card driver. but if you have some u s b speakers or  a u s b 
> head set it should work.
> it should go to the desktop in about 1 hour after you start the
installation.
> when it does press windows and enter to turn narrator on or off . then 
> you will have some speech to start the window eyes installation.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Farley via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 6:59 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant 
> saysthe display driver is blocking installation
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could 
> you also let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 
> Pro environment to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be 
> done with Window-Eyes alone? That is, there is no need to run any 
> other screen reader in order to complete the process.
> 
> I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process 
> with success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> Regards, John
> 
> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
> To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant 
> says the display driver is blocking installation
> 
> Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any 
> display error issues.
> I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.
> 
> I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues 
> up until the first reboot.
> To Be Continued...
> Chris
> 
> 
> Ai Squared Support
> Ai Squared
> 725 Airport North Office Park
> Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> (802) 362-3612
> www.aisquared.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
> To: via Talk 
> Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says 
> the display driver is blocking installation
> 
> as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that 
> everyone else is trying to use.
> it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
> this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Tinney
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
> To: net bat
> Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking 
> installation
> 
> NetBat,
> 
> 
> The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10 
> anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!
> 
> 
> I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but 
> I didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool 
> when I tried this upgrade.
> 
> 
> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
> 
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RE: netflix accessibility

2016-08-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Some time back, they used Microsoft Silverlight which opened within the
browser, and, at that time, I got it to work quite well.
I don't have a subscription right now, and so I am just wondering, does it
still use Silverlight?

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: netflix accessibility

no, netflix is missing something, an accessible app.
there app for  windows is not accessible. i don't know about the i pad app.
it works great on the apple tv 3 and now 4. i have both.

-Original Message-
From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: netflix question

Has anyone had any luck using netflix with WE? I just tried it and I hear
nothing and then a play button, nothing then a play button. Am I missing
something?
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Re: installing win 10 anaversory.

2016-08-06 Thread via Talk

If you have a recent version of window-eyes, you can go from windows 7
to 10, but after you do, you have to install the upgrade file over
itself and it does have to be later  or equal 9.4, if I remember
correctly.

net bat via Talk  wrote:

> first thing. make a complete windows 7  system backup. incase the
> upgrade fails.
> when you go from win 7 to win 10 anaversory i think you will still
> have to uninstall window eyes because win 10 uses different display
> technology
> you would need a full version of window eyes 9.2 or higher before you
> start. older versions will not work.
> upgrade disks will not work. they would run as a demo if they install at all.
> make sure you have a internet connection. sometimes it will not find a
> sound card driver. but if you have some u s b speakers or  a u s b
> head set it should work.
> it should go to the desktop in about 1 hour after you start the installation.
> when it does press windows and enter to turn narrator on or off . then
> you will have some speech to start the window eyes installation.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: John Farley via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 6:59 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant
> saysthe display driver is blocking installation
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could you also
> let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 Pro environment
> to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be done with Window-Eyes
> alone? That is, there is no need to run any other screen reader in order to
> complete the process.
> 
> I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process with
> success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> Regards, John
> 
> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
> To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says
> the display driver is blocking installation
> 
> Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any
> display error issues.
> I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.
> 
> I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues up
> until the first reboot.
> To Be Continued...
> Chris
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
> To: via Talk 
> Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the
> display driver is blocking installation
> 
> as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone
> else
> is trying to use.
> it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
> this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Bob Tinney
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
> To: net bat
> Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking
> installation
> 
> NetBat,
> 
> 
> The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
> anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!
> 
> 
> I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
> didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
> when I tried this upgrade.
> 
> 
> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
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Re: How to get to the power button with WE

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

its still in the start menu. why do you need it? just make sure you are on the 
desktop and press alt f4.

-Original Message- 
From: Loy via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: How to get to the power button with WE

Is there a way to get to the power button in the newest win 10 anniversary 
upgrade?

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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Has Shorter Rollback Period -- Redmond Channel Partner

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

if you don't like the windows 10 anaversory you only have 10 days from the 
installation date to roll back this time. instead of the 30 days you had with 
the last upgrade.
also check your privicy settings. some people reported they were changed back 
to the factory defaults.



-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:04 PM
To: nb
Subject: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Has Shorter Rollback Period -- Redmond 
Channel Partner


https://rcpmag.com/articles/2016/08/05/windows-10-update-rollback.aspx 


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How to get to the power button with WE

2016-08-06 Thread Loy via Talk

Is there a way to get to the power button in the newest win 10 anniversary 
upgrade?
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installing win 10 anaversory.

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

first thing. make a complete windows 7  system backup. incase the upgrade 
fails.
when you go from win 7 to win 10 anaversory i think you will still have to 
uninstall window eyes because win 10 uses different display technology
you would need a full version of window eyes 9.2 or higher before you start. 
older versions will not work.

upgrade disks will not work. they would run as a demo if they install at all.
make sure you have a internet connection. sometimes it will not find a sound 
card driver. but if you have some u s b speakers or  a u s b head set it should 
work.

it should go to the desktop in about 1 hour after you start the installation.
when it does press windows and enter to turn narrator on or off . then you will 
have some speech to start the window eyes installation.


-Original Message- 
From: John Farley via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 6:59 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant saysthe 
display driver is blocking installation


Hello Chris,

In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could you also
let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 Pro environment
to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be done with Window-Eyes
alone? That is, there is no need to run any other screen reader in order to
complete the process.

I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process with
success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.

?


Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



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[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says
the display driver is blocking installation

Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any
display error issues.
I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.

I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues up
until the first reboot.
To Be Continued...
Chris


Ai Squared Support
Ai Squared
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Fort Wayne, IN 46825
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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the
display driver is blocking installation

as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone
else
is trying to use.
it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking
installation

NetBat,


The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!


I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
when I tried this upgrade.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

2016-08-06 Thread via Talk

I just see an image, a frame and a couple of normal links, and a frame.
I am using ie11 under windows 10.

Andre via Talk  wrote:

> Sorry about that. Here it is:
> 
> http://www.groupcoachingsuccess.com/live/
> 
> Thanks 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:57 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1
> 
> What web page and what are you trying to play?
> 
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> 
> 
> On August 6, 2016 11:26:56 AM Andre via Talk 
> wrote:
> 
> > Will a kind lister check out this link for me? I'm trying to get it to
> play
> > with WE 9.5.1. I had to turn on NVDA just to even find out that there was
> > something that was clickable. I can get it to play with NVDA. Are there
> some
> > settings I need to change in WE to announce these clickable links? I think
> > all the verbosity settings are set, but I could be missing something.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Using ff 47, vista32, WE 9.5.1
> >
> >  
> >
> > Much thanks,
> >
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RE: Shortcut Keys for Starting NVDA

2016-08-06 Thread Andre via Talk

Control-alt-N

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 11:32 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Shortcut Keys for Starting NVDA

Hi, Folks.  Am having Windows problems with a laptop and have NVDA 
onboard.  What's the keyboard shortcut to start NVDA so I can uninstall 
Window-Eyes 9.5.1 and go back to 9.3.1? Thanks.--Matthew Chao

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Re: netflix accessibility

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk


no, netflix is missing something, an accessible app.
there app for  windows is not accessible. i don't know about the i pad app. it 
works great on the apple tv 3 and now 4. i have both.


-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: netflix question

Has anyone had any luck using netflix with WE? I just tried it and I hear 
nothing and then a play button, nothing then a play button. Am I missing 
something?

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Question on Media Creation Tool and Windows 10

2016-08-06 Thread John Farley via Talk

Hello list,

Can the entire process of upgrading  a PC in a Windows 7 Pro environment to
the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro be done with Window-Eyes alone?
That is, there is no need to run any other screen reader in order to
complete the process.


Regards, John

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Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



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Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says
the display driver is blocking installation

Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any
display error issues.
I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.

I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues up
until the first reboot.
To Be Continued...
Chris


Ai Squared Support
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[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:21 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the
display driver is blocking installation

as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone
else 
is trying to use.
it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking 
installation

NetBat,


The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!


I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
when I tried this upgrade.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

2016-08-06 Thread Loy via Talk

Window Eyes does not see the play video  button.  NVDA did not see it either 
but it does see a link at bottom of page that WE does not see.It's a Poorly 
written web page.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andre via Talk 
  To: 'Marc Solomon' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:03 PM
  Subject: RE: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

  Sorry about that. Here it is:

  http://www.groupcoachingsuccess.com/live/

  Thanks 
  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
  On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
  Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:57 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

  What web page and what are you trying to play?

  Sent with AquaMail for Android
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  On August 6, 2016 11:26:56 AM Andre via Talk 
  wrote:

  > Will a kind lister check out this link for me? I'm trying to get it to
  play
  > with WE 9.5.1. I had to turn on NVDA just to even find out that there was
  > something that was clickable. I can get it to play with NVDA. Are there
  some
  > settings I need to change in WE to announce these clickable links? I think
  > all the verbosity settings are set, but I could be missing something.
  >
  >  
  >
  > Using ff 47, vista32, WE 9.5.1
  >
  >  
  >
  > Much thanks,
  >
  >  
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Re: Shortcut Keys for Starting NVDA

2016-08-06 Thread net bat via Talk

control alt n

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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 9:31 AM
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Subject: Shortcut Keys for Starting NVDA

Hi, Folks.  Am having Windows problems with a laptop and have NVDA
onboard.  What's the keyboard shortcut to start NVDA so I can uninstall
Window-Eyes 9.5.1 and go back to 9.3.1? Thanks.--Matthew Chao

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Shortcut Keys for Starting NVDA

2016-08-06 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk

Hi, Folks.  Am having Windows problems with a laptop and have NVDA 
onboard.  What's the keyboard shortcut to start NVDA so I can uninstall 
Window-Eyes 9.5.1 and go back to 9.3.1? Thanks.--Matthew Chao




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netflix question

2016-08-06 Thread Tony C via Talk

Has anyone had any luck using netflix with WE? I just tried it and I hear 
nothing and then a play button, nothing then a play button. Am I missing 
something?
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RE: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

2016-08-06 Thread Andre via Talk

Sorry about that. Here it is:

http://www.groupcoachingsuccess.com/live/

Thanks 
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On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

What web page and what are you trying to play?

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> Will a kind lister check out this link for me? I'm trying to get it to
play
> with WE 9.5.1. I had to turn on NVDA just to even find out that there was
> something that was clickable. I can get it to play with NVDA. Are there
some
> settings I need to change in WE to announce these clickable links? I think
> all the verbosity settings are set, but I could be missing something.
>
>  
>
> Using ff 47, vista32, WE 9.5.1
>
>  
>
> Much thanks,
>
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Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

2016-08-06 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk

What web page and what are you trying to play?

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On August 6, 2016 11:26:56 AM Andre via Talk  wrote:

> Will a kind lister check out this link for me? I'm trying to get it to play
> with WE 9.5.1. I had to turn on NVDA just to even find out that there was
> something that was clickable. I can get it to play with NVDA. Are there some
> settings I need to change in WE to announce these clickable links? I think
> all the verbosity settings are set, but I could be missing something.
>
>  
>
> Using ff 47, vista32, WE 9.5.1
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>  
>
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Re: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

2016-08-06 Thread Loy via Talk

You didn't include the link to check out.

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  From: Andre via Talk 
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 11:25 AM
  Subject: clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

  Will a kind lister check out this link for me? I'm trying to get it to play
  with WE 9.5.1. I had to turn on NVDA just to even find out that there was
  something that was clickable. I can get it to play with NVDA. Are there some
  settings I need to change in WE to announce these clickable links? I think
  all the verbosity settings are set, but I could be missing something.

  Using ff 47, vista32, WE 9.5.1

  Much thanks,

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clickable links? NVDA vs. WE 9.5.1

2016-08-06 Thread Andre via Talk

Will a kind lister check out this link for me? I'm trying to get it to play
with WE 9.5.1. I had to turn on NVDA just to even find out that there was
something that was clickable. I can get it to play with NVDA. Are there some
settings I need to change in WE to announce these clickable links? I think
all the verbosity settings are set, but I could be missing something.

 

Using ff 47, vista32, WE 9.5.1

 

Much thanks,

 

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FW: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking installation

2016-08-06 Thread John Farley via Talk

Hello Chris,

In addition to reporting the success, or not, of this method, could you also
let us know if the entire process of upgrade in a Windows 7 Pro environment
to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10 Pro can be done with Window-Eyes
alone? That is, there is no need to run any other screen reader in order to
complete the process.

I note also on this list that others seem to have used this process with
success; maybe they may be able to answer my question.

? 


Regards, John

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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:38 PM
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Subject: RE: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says
the display driver is blocking installation

Using this link, my tablet is in the first reboot.  I didn't have any
display error issues.
I downloaded the media creation utility that is 17mb.

I won't be truly happy until it is complete but didn't have any issues up
until the first reboot.
To Be Continued...
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Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says the
display driver is blocking installation

as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone
else 
is trying to use.
it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking 
installation

NetBat,


The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!


I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
when I tried this upgrade.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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Re: Getting my Classic Shell Back

2016-08-06 Thread Don H via Talk

Download the newest version of Classic shell and reinstall.  I think it 
is version 4.3.  Works fine on the anniversary version of Win 10


On 8/6/2016 8:25 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:

Hi, Folks.  My desktop system automatically upgraded to Windows 10
Anniversary Edition.  When it did, however, it took away my classic
start menu I used under the Classic Shell program.  How do I get this
back?  Do I need to reinstall it?  Thabnks.--Matthew Chao



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Getting my Classic Shell Back

2016-08-06 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk

Hi, Folks.  My desktop system automatically upgraded to Windows 10 
Anniversary Edition.  When it did, however, it took away my classic 
start menu I used under the Classic Shell program.  How do I get this 
back?  Do I need to reinstall it?  Thabnks.--Matthew Chao




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Re: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says thedisplay driver is blocking installation

2016-08-06 Thread michael's emails via Talk

Hi Netbat i did the media tool update and had no problems thanks.
Cheers Michael.

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Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 3:21 AM
To: via Talk
Subject: maybe you will believe me now. Re: the upgrade assistant says 
thedisplay driver is blocking installation

as i have said. this creation tool is not the same version that everyone 
else

is trying to use.
it installed the anaversory version without haveing to uninstall anything.
this person got it to work too. so i am not the only one.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:21 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking
installation

NetBat,

The media creation tool worked.  As I'm writing this, windows 10
anniversary addition is being installed.  Thanks for the tip!

I used the media creation tool when I first installed windows 10, but I
didn't scroll down far enough on the Microsoft page to see this tool
when I tried this upgrade.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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