date:20170525

Hi, how do I prevent Jaws or any screen reader from  saying something like
m.yahoo when I start to type an address into the address bar?  I also want
to prevent it from showing a list of possible sites that it could be in a
list as I type.  I would love to get rid of all search engines but I don't
see how this is possible I looked under search.  I'm using latest Firefox
any help is appreciated.

 

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Re: Jaws and desktop


which version of windows?
for windows 7 you can use alt tab to switch from the jaws screen to the desktop
or find the jaws option to run it from the system tray.
another option in jaws settings is to turn on focus. this will tell you when 
jaws has lost focus in your programs.
for me it says lost focus every time i close wlm and i have to alt tab to bring 
focus back to the desktop. or mouse click the desktop.



-Original Message- 
From: Neville via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:03 PM
To: Window Eyes
Subject: Jaws and desktop

Hi,
Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner.

When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the
Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows
d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop.

Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some
setting somewhere?  If so, which setting and where?


Thanks
Neville.

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this is spam. not from a user/ Test Message


someone is spamming the list.
this is suppose to be the address its comeing from.
Michael D. Lawler;Window-Eyes Discussion 
List;


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Subject: Re: Test Message

At 08:42 PM 5/25/2017, you wrote:




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Biblical Belly Breakthrough
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Re: Test Message

2017-05-25 Thread Michael D. Lawler via Talk


At 08:42 PM 5/25/2017, you wrote:




Brilliant Trick Melts Body Fat Overnight (Do This Tonight)
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http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/59277a4e4da3f7a4e5ec2st03vuc
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Jaws and desktop

2017-05-25 Thread Neville via Talk


Hi,
Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner.

When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the 
Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows 
d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop.


Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some 
setting somewhere?  If so, which setting and where?



Thanks
Neville.

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RE: End of Life Message

Exactly they were very smart for putting it in.  it wasn't should they they
had to.  Let's give an example and this is only an example!  If someone not
on this list  used it in a year it crashed there computer and caused there
hard drive to not work they could try and  say it's Window Eyes fault.  This
is not the case of course but without that disclaimer they could try and say
it.

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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:25 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Don H
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Remember, not everyone who uses WE is on this list.

On 5/25/2017 5:53 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> Yesterday, the window eyes thing came on that tells you there are new 
> aps to download.  It surprised me.  After I told it to download, I got 
> that message.  So, I guess they sent an ap with that.  They really 
> didn't need to do that!  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:14 PM
> To: Dennis Long via Talk
> Subject: Re: End of Life Message
> 
> How are people getting this end of life message to come up?
> 
> On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need 
>> it isn't as frustrating just my opinion.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
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>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: Re: End of Life Message
>>
>> Hi.
>> remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it 
>> works, keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS 
>> once again on this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's 
>> there if I ever need it.
>> Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't 
>> work anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost 
>>> died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes 
>>> End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just 
>>> said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less 
>>> ominous.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes 
>>> still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I 
>>> just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with 
>>> programs like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a 
>>> setting which makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.
>>>
>>> Brenda
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Re: converting to jaws

2017-05-25 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk

Exactly. And when you're in credit consolidation you literally can't. So as 
nice as it would be to take advantage of the current offer I'll just wait 
and pay full price later. In the meantime I can at least still relearn the 
ropes, and that's been a lot easier than I was expecting. And I do like that 
we still have access to Vocalizer voices for those times when I just want a 
break frol Eloquence LOL.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Huber via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:10 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Hi Netbat:

In my opinion, charging it is a bad idea if you don't have the money
in the first place. (smile)
Kevin Huber










On 5/18/17, net bat via Talk  wrote:

charge it! grin.
even with a years worth of interest it would still cost less then $900 to
buy
it.
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From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:51 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

As I understand it though doesn't that only apply till the end of July?
Because if so there'll be no way I'll be able to save up that much.



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From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Hi Brian:

Even if your retail copy is not current, you will get a substantial
discount.  For instance, if you have WE version 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,  8.3 or
8.4, it will cost $130 in U.S. funds, and the cost goes up for lower
versions.



Kevin Huber


On 5/17/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:

I only wish I could. Unfortunately my retail copy of WE isn't current and
I

can't purchase an upgrade. Fortunately a lot of what I used to remember
has

been coming back to me.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: Armando Maldonado via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Haven't got mine yet so hope things work out.
Armando
- Original Message -
From: "Don H via Talk" 
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: converting to jaws



So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing a
Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am told
I

should finally get my activation key tomorrow.
The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE.
Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't think
I

could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free.  Of course VFO
will

still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future.
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Re: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk

just use shift key to copy with jaws.

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:24 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Jaws and copy text question

Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text 
and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste 
when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select 
text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?

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Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

2017-05-25 Thread Don H via Talk

If I change to the laptop keyboard I lose the ability to use my num pad 
for entering numbers.


On 5/25/2017 8:30 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Nick,

I'm not willing to go out on a limb and say the sticky insert key mode is 
better than using the laptop layout which makes the caps lock the jaws key.
For me, right now, the sticky insert key seems the easiest way to leave 
everything alone, including the desktop layout, while getting used to using 
jaws.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: May 25, 2017 8:49 PM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Thanks, do you think that will work more effectively than the Caps Lock
Key?  It's going to be a while before I migrate, so perhaps I should ask
these questions should they become necessary.  Based on the tutorials, I
tend not to use most of the key strokes involving the insert key.

On 5/25/2017 3:25 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

The sticky key function of the Insert key is a global setting, which can only 
be toggled on by first switching to global settings, namely, by pressing 
Control-Shift-D in the Settings Center.
The actual name of the setting you're looking for is Insert key mode.

Cheers,

Rod

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk
Sent: May 25, 2017 1:53 PM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Hi,
In JAWS settings, Insert+6 on the top numbers row, you can make the insert key 
a sticky key. I would search for insert key, and the setting that you can check 
will probably be there. You can do this with JAWS so the Insert is not a sticky 
key on your computer for all programs like it would be if you went to ease of 
access and did it there. I love that, because I can press Insert key, let up 
off of that, and press other keys, and it works just like I held it down.
I hope you find that setting in the settings center of JAWS!
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:34 PM
To: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I
understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how
do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean
simply using the caps lock?

On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:

Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state,
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.

I hope that helps.


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On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:

Hi Raul,

I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default
Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on
caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says
nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher
pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I
am not sure why it is no longer working.

This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed,
or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo
accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the
state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be
alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the
Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe
someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I
don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is
necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I
like it like this.

Take care,

Carol




On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of
the alt-tab order.


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On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a
desktop keyboard setting to l

RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Hi Nick,

I'm not willing to go out on a limb and say the sticky insert key mode is 
better than using the laptop layout which makes the caps lock the jaws key.
For me, right now, the sticky insert key seems the easiest way to leave 
everything alone, including the desktop layout, while getting used to using 
jaws.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: May 25, 2017 8:49 PM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Thanks, do you think that will work more effectively than the Caps Lock 
Key?  It's going to be a while before I migrate, so perhaps I should ask 
these questions should they become necessary.  Based on the tutorials, I 
tend not to use most of the key strokes involving the insert key.

On 5/25/2017 3:25 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> The sticky key function of the Insert key is a global setting, which can only 
> be toggled on by first switching to global settings, namely, by pressing 
> Control-Shift-D in the Settings Center.
> The actual name of the setting you're looking for is Insert key mode.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk
> Sent: May 25, 2017 1:53 PM
> To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key
> 
> Hi,
> In JAWS settings, Insert+6 on the top numbers row, you can make the insert 
> key a sticky key. I would search for insert key, and the setting that you can 
> check will probably be there. You can do this with JAWS so the Insert is not 
> a sticky key on your computer for all programs like it would be if you went 
> to ease of access and did it there. I love that, because I can press Insert 
> key, let up off of that, and press other keys, and it works just like I held 
> it down.
> I hope you find that setting in the settings center of JAWS!
> Have a great one!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:34 PM
> To: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
> Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key
> 
> Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I
> understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how
> do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean
> simply using the caps lock?
> 
> On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
>> Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state,
>> all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>>
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>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
>> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
>> Office: 832.639.4477
>> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
>> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>>
>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” -
>> David Thornburg
>>
>> On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
>>> Hi Raul,
>>>
>>> I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default
>>> Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on
>>> caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says
>>> nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher
>>> pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I
>>> am not sure why it is no longer working.
>>>
>>> This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed,
>>> or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo
>>> accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the
>>> state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be
>>> alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the
>>> Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe
>>> someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I
>>> don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is
>>> necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I
>>> like it like this.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by
 pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys
 along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really
 works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of
 the alt-tab order.


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Re: Eloquence pitch in jaws?

Yes, this can be done. My instructions may not be the best, but I think
you can figure it out since you have already been in the Jaws options
and found the voice settings. From within the voices setting, choose
voice adjustment.
Press alt-v to get to the combo box where you choose which cursor you
want to modify.
you will get to an option where you can down arrow through options for
default cursor, PC cursor, Jaws cursor, etc.
You can not have the option set to default. After choosing the cursor
you want to set, tab until you find the pitch setting. This is the next
tab after the punctuation setting.

You change it with the arrow keys.
Once you have it set, tab to save as and give it a name, something you
will recognize, like Glen pitch 44 and press enter on OK.
You will be asked if you want to set this for the default. Enter on yes
or OK, I forgot what it is called at this point.

Now, you will have access to that voice whenever you want to use it.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 8:52 PM, Andre via Talk wrote:

I really don't like the default pitch for the Jaws eloquence. Is it possible
to change this? I know with Window-eyes I could, but for some reason I
haven't found how to do it in Jaws. I found something that says the pitch
for uppercase where you can input a percent. I haven't found anything else.

Along the same lines are there hot keys to rotor through the screen,
keyboard, mouse, virtual cursor settings. In Window-Eyes it was
control-Alt-arrows etc. Still trying to get used to things. I just activated
my copy today.

Much thanks,

Andre

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Re: WLM APP annoyance


have you checked for app updates?
you have to go to the app manager and to add remove. in there you can manually 
check for updates.


-Original Message- 
From: Grant Metcalf via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:13 PM
To: Via Talk
Subject: WLM APP annoyance

Hi list,
Running win7 on a 32bit pc with window-eyes 9.5.4.
When starting this email and also trying to attach files to an email I get a 
message saying that there is a WLM APP error and I am ask “do you want to 
Ignore, Stop, Restart”, et cetera. It also says something about a VBS error in 
line 700.  Does anoybody else have this problem or know how to get rid of it? 
My grandson thinks it is a WLM problem which can not be fixed except by 
changing to a different email program. HMMM!

Thank for any help that can be provided.
Cordially,
Grant A K A Grumpy Grandpa DOS for the moment SMILE!
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Eloquence pitch in jaws?

2017-05-25 Thread Andre via Talk

I really don't like the default pitch for the Jaws eloquence. Is it possible
to change this? I know with Window-eyes I could, but for some reason I
haven't found how to do it in Jaws. I found something that says the pitch
for uppercase where you can input a percent. I haven't found anything else.

 

Along the same lines are there hot keys to rotor through the screen,
keyboard, mouse, virtual cursor settings. In Window-Eyes it was
control-Alt-arrows etc. Still trying to get used to things. I just activated
my copy today.

 

Much thanks,

 

Andre

 

 

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Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

2017-05-25 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Thanks, do you think that will work more effectively than the Caps Lock 
Key?  It's going to be a while before I migrate, so perhaps I should ask 
these questions should they become necessary.  Based on the tutorials, I 
tend not to use most of the key strokes involving the insert key.

On 5/25/2017 3:25 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> The sticky key function of the Insert key is a global setting, which can only 
> be toggled on by first switching to global settings, namely, by pressing 
> Control-Shift-D in the Settings Center.
> The actual name of the setting you're looking for is Insert key mode.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk
> Sent: May 25, 2017 1:53 PM
> To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key
> 
> Hi,
> In JAWS settings, Insert+6 on the top numbers row, you can make the insert 
> key a sticky key. I would search for insert key, and the setting that you can 
> check will probably be there. You can do this with JAWS so the Insert is not 
> a sticky key on your computer for all programs like it would be if you went 
> to ease of access and did it there. I love that, because I can press Insert 
> key, let up off of that, and press other keys, and it works just like I held 
> it down.
> I hope you find that setting in the settings center of JAWS!
> Have a great one!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:34 PM
> To: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
> Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key
> 
> Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I
> understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how
> do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean
> simply using the caps lock?
> 
> On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
>> Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state,
>> all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>>
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>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
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>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>>
>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” -
>> David Thornburg
>>
>> On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
>>> Hi Raul,
>>>
>>> I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default
>>> Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on
>>> caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says
>>> nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher
>>> pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I
>>> am not sure why it is no longer working.
>>>
>>> This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed,
>>> or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo
>>> accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the
>>> state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be
>>> alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the
>>> Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe
>>> someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I
>>> don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is
>>> necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I
>>> like it like this.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by
 pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys
 along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really
 works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of
 the alt-tab order.


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 On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
> I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a
> desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile
> to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the
> capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for
> me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many times
> to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but even I
> can't have messed up that badly, LOL!
>
>>>

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Re: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Remember, not everyone who uses WE is on this list.

On 5/25/2017 5:53 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> Yesterday, the window eyes thing came on that tells you there are new 
> aps to download.  It surprised me.  After I told it to download, I got 
> that message.  So, I guess they sent an ap with that.  They really 
> didn't need to do that!  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:14 PM
> To: Dennis Long via Talk
> Subject: Re: End of Life Message
> 
> How are people getting this end of life message to come up?
> 
> On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it 
>> isn't
>> as frustrating just my opinion.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: Re: End of Life Message
>>
>> Hi.
>> remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it 
>> works,
>> keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once 
>> again on
>> this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever 
>> need it.
>> Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
>> anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
>>> died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
>>> End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
>>> said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
>>> ominous.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
>>> still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
>>> just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
>>> like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
>>> makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.
>>>
>>> Brenda
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WLM APP annoyance

2017-05-25 Thread Grant Metcalf via Talk

Hi list,
Running win7 on a 32bit pc with window-eyes 9.5.4.
When starting this email and also trying to attach files to an email I get a 
message saying that there is a WLM APP error and I am ask “do you want to 
Ignore, Stop, Restart”, et cetera. It also says something about a VBS error in 
line 700.  Does anoybody else have this problem or know how to get rid of it?  
My grandson thinks it is a WLM problem which can not be fixed except by 
changing to a different email program. HMMM!
Thank for any help that can be provided.
Cordially,
Grant A K A Grumpy Grandpa DOS for the moment SMILE!
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sounds for loading and unloading Jaws

2017-05-25 Thread brice Mijares via Talk

How does one go about assigning a sound when loading and unloading Jaws? 
Using windows ten.

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Re: Jaws installing latest version

2017-05-25 Thread Neville via Talk


Thanks Chris.

Neville.


On 25/05/2017 11:37 PM, Chris G via Talk wrote:

Hi,
It will install over JAWS 18.

When they say having multiple versions of JAWS installed, they say 16, 
17, 18, not the patches.




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 Original Message 
From: Neville via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:11 PM EST
To: Window Eyes
Subject: Jaws installing latest version

Hi,
A few days ago I installed the then current version of Jaws to try it
out while waiting for my registration code. Which still has not arrived.

My question concerns the installation of the latest Jaws version
released in the past few days.

Will the latest version install over the previous version in the same
folder or will it install in a new folder?  My question relates to being
able to have more than one version of Jaws installed on a system at the
same time.

   Thanks
Neville.
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RE: End of Life Message

Hi Don,

The end of life message is a feature of the newest update to the Windows 
Enhance app.
You'll get the message if you update the app.
In order to not get the message again, check the check box, and select the 
Cancel button.

Hth,

Rod

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On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: May 25, 2017 5:14 PM
To: Dennis Long via Talk 
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

How are people getting this end of life message to come up?

On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
> You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it isn't
> as frustrating just my opinion.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: End of Life Message
> 
> Hi.
> remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it works,
> keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once again on
> this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever need it.
> Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
> anymore.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
>> died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
>> End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
>> said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
>> ominous.
>>
>> Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
>> still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
>> just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
>> like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
>> makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.
>>
>> Brenda
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Re: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

Well, there are still people using Window-eyes, so yes, 
actually that could help people who may have had a particular problem 
that that update might fix.  I'm glad to see a little development going 
on even if it


 is in the short term.

On 5/25/2017 5:53 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Yesterday, the window eyes thing came on that tells you there are new 
aps to download.  It surprised me.  After I told it to download, I got 
that message.  So, I guess they sent an ap with that.  They really 
didn't need to do that!  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:14 PM
To: Dennis Long via Talk
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

How are people getting this end of life message to come up?

On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need 
it isn't

as frustrating just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes. If it 
works,
keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once 
again on
this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever 
need it.

Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
anymore.




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Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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Re: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread Tony C via Talk

   Thanks, I thought that was actually a Windows 10 keystroke. Thanks 
again...

-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:31 PM
To: Tony C via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws and copy text question

The F8 key for starting to select what you want to copy is a Window Eyes
command and not a Jaws command.

On 5/25/2017 1:24 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote:
Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select 
text and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t 
paste when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have 
to select text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow 
to select?

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Re: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread Tony C via Talk

   Hi, Thanks. Yeah Windows 10 uses the F8. So, I just revert back to the 
older way of doing it. lol

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:50 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Jaws and copy text question

Maybe this is because I am running Windows 7, but my copy method with
Jaws is the same as it used to be in Window-Eyes before we started using
the f8 method.

For example, I find the beginning of the text I wans and press the shift
key.  By arrowing down, I copy lines of text at a time.  By adding in
the control, I can now move down by paragraphs or by page if I use the
page down button with the shift key.  These are the keystrokes that are
still available in NotePad.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 2:29 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Tony:

F8 marks the beginning of the text to be copied, then arrow down to
the end of the text that you want to copy and press control-c.
Kevin Huber

On 5/25/17, Tony C via Talk  wrote:
Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select 
text
and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t 
paste
when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to 
select
text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to 
select?

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Re: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Yesterday, the window eyes thing came on that tells you there are new aps to 
download.  It surprised me.  After I told it to download, I got that 
message.  So, I guess they sent an ap with that.  They really didn't need to 
do that!  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:14 PM
To: Dennis Long via Talk
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

How are people getting this end of life message to come up?

On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it 
isn't

as frustrating just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it 
works,

keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once again on
this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever need 
it.

Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
anymore.




On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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Re: End of Life Message

Yesterday, I had a message about updating apps.  After that, whenever I 
started Window-eyes it came up until I checked the "do not show" check 
box.  (I close w-E to switch to Jaws, and start W-e manually after 
rebooting my pc.)


hth
Brenda

On 5/25/2017 5:14 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:

How are people getting this end of life message to come up?

On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it 
isn't

as frustrating just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it 
works,
keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once 
again on
this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever 
need it.

Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
anymore.




On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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Re: End of Life Message


Yep, Dennis, you're right, and I'm slowly doing that.

I really appreciate all the tips on this list.  I may not use them 
instantly, but at least I'm exposed to them for future refreshing.

brenda

On 5/25/2017 5:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it isn't
as frustrating just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it works,
keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once again on
this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever need it.
Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
anymore.




On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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Re: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Don H via Talk


How are people getting this end of life message to come up?

On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it isn't
as frustrating just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it works,
keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once again on
this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever need it.
Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
anymore.




On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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RE: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

You would be smart to learn jaws now rather than later just my opinion.

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On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: End of Life Message

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost died due
to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes End of Life
Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just said window-eyes
Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes still
works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I just can't
bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs like Vipre and
Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which makes it work in safe
mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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RE: Jaws and copy text question

I tell you, the Window-Eyes method for copying text is less cumbersome.
Only three keystrokes to worry about:  F8 to start, F8 to end, Alt-C to copy
to Clipboard.

For Jaws, Ctrl-Windows-K, then Insert-Space, then M, last, Ctrl-C to finally
copy to clipboard.  I wonder why Jaws can't keep almost anything simple?

Sincerely,
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RE: End of Life Message

You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it isn't
as frustrating just my opinion.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it works,
keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once again on
this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever need it.
Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work
anymore.

On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost 
> died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes 
> End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just 
> said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less 
> ominous.
>
> Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes 
> still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I 
> just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs 
> like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which 
> makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.
>
> Brenda
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RE: SMA''s

I would call them.

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On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:18 PM
To: brice Mijares; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: SMA''s

supposedly if you look in the jaws help pull down then about it will show
how many s m a's you have left.
i was told my 1 s m a left from window eyes was transfered. but it says i
have
0 left in the about dialog.

-Original Message-
From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: SMA''s

I purchased the  SMA for Jaws. I was sent a message stating that I'd use a
credit card ETC. But, I received nothing further. Were we suppose to get any
further info? Also, I barely received my Authorization code after calling
them today, Gwmicro migration had my correct email address, but VFO had an
old email address from when I purchased open book.  If anyone can answer my
question on the SMA I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
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RE: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

That is correct.

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On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:02 PM
To: 'Kevin Huber'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Jaws and copy text question

Tony, as far as I know, the F8 copy command is a Window-Eyes thingie; it
will not work using Jaws until its developers elect to script it for that!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado  

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RE: Jaws and copy text question

Tony, as far as I know, the F8 copy command is a Window-Eyes thingie; it
will not work using Jaws until its developers elect to script it for that!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado  


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RE: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread David Moore via Talk

Hi,
Here is what you want to do with JAWS. First, press Windows+CTRL+K to set a 
temperary place marker. Then, arrow to the end of what you want to select. 
Then, Press Insert+Space bar, and press the letter M for marker. When you do 
that, all of the text between the place marker and your mark is selected. Then, 
just press CTRL+C to copy, then you can paste it anywhere.
Take care,
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:31 PM
To: Tony C via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws and copy text question

The F8 key for starting to select what you want to copy is a Window Eyes 
command and not a Jaws command.

On 5/25/2017 1:24 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote:
> Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text 
> and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste 
> when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select 
> text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?
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Re: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread Don H via Talk

The F8 key for starting to select what you want to copy is a Window Eyes 
command and not a Jaws command.


On 5/25/2017 1:24 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote:

Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text 
and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste when 
I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select text 
using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?
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RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

The sticky key function of the Insert key is a global setting, which can only 
be toggled on by first switching to global settings, namely, by pressing 
Control-Shift-D in the Settings Center.
The actual name of the setting you're looking for is Insert key mode.

Cheers,

Rod

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On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk
Sent: May 25, 2017 1:53 PM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Hi,
In JAWS settings, Insert+6 on the top numbers row, you can make the insert key 
a sticky key. I would search for insert key, and the setting that you can check 
will probably be there. You can do this with JAWS so the Insert is not a sticky 
key on your computer for all programs like it would be if you went to ease of 
access and did it there. I love that, because I can press Insert key, let up 
off of that, and press other keys, and it works just like I held it down.
I hope you find that setting in the settings center of JAWS!
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:34 PM
To: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I 
understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how 
do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean 
simply using the caps lock?

On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
> Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
> all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
> Office: 832.639.4477
> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
> 
> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
> David Thornburg
> 
> On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
>> Hi Raul,
>>
>> I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
>> Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
>> caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says 
>> nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
>> pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I 
>> am not sure why it is no longer working.
>>
>> This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed, 
>> or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo 
>> accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the 
>> state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be 
>> alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the 
>> Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe 
>> someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I 
>> don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is 
>> necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I 
>> like it like this.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
>>> pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
>>> along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
>>> works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of 
>>> the alt-tab order.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
>>> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
>>> Office: 832.639.4477
>>> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
>>> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
>>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>>>
>>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
>>> David Thornburg
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
 I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a 
 desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile 
 to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the 
 capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for 
 me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many times 
 to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but even I 
 can't have messed up that badly, LOL!

 Carol, happily using my insert key!


 On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
> I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
> possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
> certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
> keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be 
> advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which 
> computer I am us

Re: SMA''s

supposedly if you look in the jaws help pull down then about it will show how 
many s m a's you have left.
i was told my 1 s m a left from window eyes was transfered. but it says i have 
0 left in the about dialog.


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From: brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: SMA''s

I purchased the  SMA for Jaws. I was sent a message stating that I'd use
a credit card ETC. But, I received nothing further. Were we suppose to
get any further info? Also, I barely received my Authorization code
after calling them today, Gwmicro migration had my correct email
address, but VFO had an old email address from when I purchased open
book.  If anyone can answer my question on the SMA I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
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Re: SMA''s

Hi,

When I made my purchase, they verified that I had two SMA's at
GW-Micro. The very nice lady informed me that they had transferred to
my Jaws purchase. She also explained that it would show that I have one
SMA. This is because VFO sells two at one time. So, when you purchase
one SMA from them, you get two upgrades. These come usually around the
end of October. Updates count as a free software patch. So, If you
only had one SMA, you will only be entitled to one upgrade. I am not
quite sure how this shows on the purchase order, but I am sure there
will be some information about it. Mine was written directly into the
email, so I did not need to read some pdf file or other attachment.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 2:47 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
I purchased the SMA for Jaws. I was sent a message stating that I'd
use a credit card ETC. But, I received nothing further. Were we
suppose to get any further info? Also, I barely received my
Authorization code after calling them today, Gwmicro migration had my
correct email address, but VFO had an old email address from when I
purchased open book. If anyone can answer my question on the SMA I'd
appreciate it. Thanks.

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RE: SMA''s

I suggest calling them.

Good luck,

Rod

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On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: May 25, 2017 2:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: SMA''s

I purchased the  SMA for Jaws. I was sent a message stating that I'd use 
a credit card ETC. But, I received nothing further. Were we suppose to 
get any further info? Also, I barely received my Authorization code 
after calling them today, Gwmicro migration had my correct email 
address, but VFO had an old email address from when I purchased open 
book.  If anyone can answer my question on the SMA I'd appreciate it. 
Thanks.
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Re: Jaws and copy text question

Maybe this is because I am running Windows 7, but my copy method with
Jaws is the same as it used to be in Window-Eyes before we started using
the f8 method.

For example, I find the beginning of the text I wans and press the shift
key. By arrowing down, I copy lines of text at a time. By adding in
the control, I can now move down by paragraphs or by page if I use the
page down button with the shift key. These are the keystrokes that are
still available in NotePad.

Carol

On 5/25/2017 2:29 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Tony:

F8 marks the beginning of the text to be copied, then arrow down to
the end of the text that you want to copy and press control-c.
Kevin Huber

On 5/25/17, Tony C via Talk wrote:

Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text
and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste
when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select
text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?
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Re: Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread brice Mijares via Talk


Yes, standard windows methods.

On 5/25/2017 11:24 AM, Tony C via Talk wrote:

Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text 
and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste when 
I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select text 
using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?
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SMA''s

2017-05-25 Thread brice Mijares via Talk

I purchased the  SMA for Jaws. I was sent a message stating that I'd use 
a credit card ETC. But, I received nothing further. Were we suppose to 
get any further info? Also, I barely received my Authorization code 
after calling them today, Gwmicro migration had my correct email 
address, but VFO had an old email address from when I purchased open 
book.  If anyone can answer my question on the SMA I'd appreciate it. 
Thanks.

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Re: Jaws and copy text question

Hi Tony:

F8 marks the beginning of the text to be copied, then arrow down to
the end of the text that you want to copy and press control-c.
Kevin Huber

On 5/25/17, Tony C via Talk  wrote:
> Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text
> and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste
> when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select
> text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?
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RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

2017-05-25 Thread David Moore via Talk

You certainly can use both insert keys as well as the caps lock key. You have 
everything you have in desktop layout, plus the caps lock, and a lot of extra 
commands that are much easier to do from the keyboard.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:06 PM
To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Hi Brenda,

I'm not Raul, but I can answer your questions.  Yes, you are using the 
laptop layout.  No, you can not use the insert keys as modifiers.  I 
presume they will still work as insert-typeover toggles.  The keypad can 
still be used, but you use the capslock key instead of the insert key to 
get the same keystrokes.

If you do a lot with numbers, turning the numlock on for the keypad will 
give you access to numbers without having to use the number row.  
Turning it off allows access to mouse click keys.  I benefit from this 
because I an not a very good numeral inputter, grin.

Carol


On 5/25/2017 1:32 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
> I may have missed the initial message or got confused with the various 
> replies.
>
> In order to use caps lock as the Jaws key do you have to turn laptop 
> mode on?
>
> Once laptop mode is on, can you still use the insert as the Jaws key 
> and the numpad for navigation?
>
> If true, it seems like laptop mode is more versitile than desktop mode.
>
> If not, what do I have to do to have the caps lock and insert key both 
> funcgtion as the Jaws key?
>
> Thanks
> Brenda
>
> On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
>> Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
>> all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
>> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
>> Office: 832.639.4477
>> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
>> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>>
>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
>> David Thornburg
>>
>> On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
>>> Hi Raul,
>>>
>>> I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
>>> Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
>>> caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says 
>>> nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
>>> pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but 
>>> I am not sure why it is no longer working.
>>>
>>> This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I 
>>> alt-tabbed, or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the 
>>> alt-Caps-Lock combo accidently instead.  Guess what! Alt-Caps-Lock 
>>> sets and says the state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it 
>>> supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the 
>>> Caps-Lock?  Pressing the Caps-Lock key now works just like the 
>>> insert key used to.  I believe someone indicated there were times I 
>>> should press it twice, but I don't remember why.  I just hope the 
>>> setting stays whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, since I 
>>> don't know how it got this way.  I like it like this.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
 pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
 along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
 works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out 
 of the alt-tab order.


 -- 
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
 Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
 Office: 832.639.4477
 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
 Work Email: train...@rgats.com
 Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

 “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” 
 - David Thornburg

 On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
> I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching 
> a desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be 
> worthhwhile to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to 
> use the capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very 
> tempramental for me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I 
> did try many times to use it.  I am certain there was some 
> operator error, but even I can't have messed up that badly, LOL!
>
> Carol, happily using my insert key!
>
>
> On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
>> I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
>> possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
>> certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
>> keyboard layout on both

Jaws and copy text question

2017-05-25 Thread Tony C via Talk

Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text 
and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste when 
I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select text 
using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select?
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Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key


Hi Brenda,

I'm not Raul, but I can answer your questions.  Yes, you are using the 
laptop layout.  No, you can not use the insert keys as modifiers.  I 
presume they will still work as insert-typeover toggles.  The keypad can 
still be used, but you use the capslock key instead of the insert key to 
get the same keystrokes.


If you do a lot with numbers, turning the numlock on for the keypad will 
give you access to numbers without having to use the number row.  
Turning it off allows access to mouse click keys.  I benefit from this 
because I an not a very good numeral inputter, grin.


Carol


On 5/25/2017 1:32 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
I may have missed the initial message or got confused with the various 
replies.


In order to use caps lock as the Jaws key do you have to turn laptop 
mode on?


Once laptop mode is on, can you still use the insert as the Jaws key 
and the numpad for navigation?


If true, it seems like laptop mode is more versitile than desktop mode.

If not, what do I have to do to have the caps lock and insert key both 
funcgtion as the Jaws key?


Thanks
Brenda

On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.


I hope that helps.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

“Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
David Thornburg


On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:

Hi Raul,

I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says 
nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but 
I am not sure why it is no longer working.


This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I 
alt-tabbed, or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the 
alt-Caps-Lock combo accidently instead.  Guess what! Alt-Caps-Lock 
sets and says the state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it 
supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the 
Caps-Lock?  Pressing the Caps-Lock key now works just like the 
insert key used to.  I believe someone indicated there were times I 
should press it twice, but I don't remember why.  I just hope the 
setting stays whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, since I 
don't know how it got this way.  I like it like this.


Take care,

Carol




On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out 
of the alt-tab order.



--
Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

“Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” 
- David Thornburg


On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching 
a desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be 
worthhwhile to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to 
use the capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very 
tempramental for me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I 
did try many times to use it.  I am certain there was some 
operator error, but even I can't have messed up that badly, LOL!


Carol, happily using my insert key!


On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be 
advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which 
computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.

Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
J. Edward Culpepper
Huntsville, Alabama, USA
Check out my weekly devotional blog, Blind Faith, at:
   
http://www.blindfaith.fbchsv2.org

From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it. This is also 
available in a DAISY book through FS Reader.  Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip

RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

2017-05-25 Thread David Moore via Talk

Hi,
In JAWS settings, Insert+6 on the top numbers row, you can make the insert key 
a sticky key. I would search for insert key, and the setting that you can check 
will probably be there. You can do this with JAWS so the Insert is not a sticky 
key on your computer for all programs like it would be if you went to ease of 
access and did it there. I love that, because I can press Insert key, let up 
off of that, and press other keys, and it works just like I held it down.
I hope you find that setting in the settings center of JAWS!
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:34 PM
To: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I 
understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how 
do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean 
simply using the caps lock?

On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
> Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
> all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
> Office: 832.639.4477
> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
> 
> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
> David Thornburg
> 
> On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
>> Hi Raul,
>>
>> I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
>> Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
>> caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says 
>> nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
>> pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I 
>> am not sure why it is no longer working.
>>
>> This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed, 
>> or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo 
>> accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the 
>> state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be 
>> alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the 
>> Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe 
>> someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I 
>> don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is 
>> necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I 
>> like it like this.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
>>> pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
>>> along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
>>> works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of 
>>> the alt-tab order.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
>>> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
>>> Office: 832.639.4477
>>> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
>>> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
>>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>>>
>>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
>>> David Thornburg
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
 I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a 
 desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile 
 to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the 
 capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for 
 me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many times 
 to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but even I 
 can't have messed up that badly, LOL!

 Carol, happily using my insert key!


 On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
> I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
> possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
> certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
> keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be 
> advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which 
> computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.
> Thanks for the suggestion and link.
> Ed Culpepper
> J. Edward Culpepper
> Huntsville, Alabama, USA
> Check out my weekly devotional blog, Blind Faith, at:
>    
> http://www.blindfaith.fbchsv2.org
> From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
> To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
> Hi:
> Have you trie

Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key


hi raul,
Apparently, I must have some strange quirk with my keyboard.  I have 
pressed the capslock key as quickly as I possibly could.  It absolutely 
will not switch the setting.  However, using alt-capslock does work, so 
as long as it does, I will use it.  The only time I have any difficulty 
at all is when I want to use the f1 through f4 keys.  That reach is a 
bit awkward for me.  I have been trying to practice and I think it 
should be possible eventually.  I might need to start exercising my 
little left-hand pinky, though, grin.  Thank you for your help.


I doubt that it should make any difference, but my keyboard is one of 
those wireless ones with a little USB things put out by Dell. The PC is 
about 7-1/2 years old and is running Windows 7, 64-bit Windows.  Both 
Dell and Windows have indicated to me that I should not update to 
Windows 10 on this system because it will not support it.  I do see a 
new computer in my future, but I hope it is not too soon.


Carol


On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.


I hope that helps.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

“Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
David Thornburg


On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:

Hi Raul,

I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off. Now, it says 
nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I 
am not sure why it is no longer working.


This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I 
alt-tabbed, or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the 
alt-Caps-Lock combo accidently instead.  Guess what! Alt-Caps-Lock 
sets and says the state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it 
supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  
Pressing the Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used 
to.  I believe someone indicated there were times I should press it 
twice, but I don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays 
whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it 
got this way.  I like it like this.


Take care,

Carol




On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of 
the alt-tab order.



--
Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

“Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” 
- David Thornburg


On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a 
desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile 
to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the 
capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for 
me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many 
times to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but 
even I can't have messed up that badly, LOL!


Carol, happily using my insert key!


On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be 
advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which 
computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.

Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
J. Edward Culpepper
Huntsville, Alabama, USA
Check out my weekly devotional blog, Blind Faith, at:
   
http://www.blindfaith.fbchsv2.org

From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it.  This is also 
available in a DAISY book through FS Reader.  Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip 


Hope this helps.
Sent from Mail  
for Windows 10

From: Ed Cu

Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

2017-05-25 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I 
understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how 
do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean 
simply using the caps lock?

On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
> Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
> all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
> Office: 832.639.4477
> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
> 
> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
> David Thornburg
> 
> On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
>> Hi Raul,
>>
>> I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
>> Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
>> caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says 
>> nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
>> pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I 
>> am not sure why it is no longer working.
>>
>> This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed, 
>> or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo 
>> accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the 
>> state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be 
>> alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the 
>> Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe 
>> someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I 
>> don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is 
>> necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I 
>> like it like this.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
>>> pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
>>> along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
>>> works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of 
>>> the alt-tab order.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
>>> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
>>> Office: 832.639.4477
>>> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
>>> Work Email: train...@rgats.com
>>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>>>
>>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
>>> David Thornburg
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
 I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a 
 desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile 
 to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the 
 capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for 
 me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many times 
 to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but even I 
 can't have messed up that badly, LOL!

 Carol, happily using my insert key!


 On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
> I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
> possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
> certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
> keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be 
> advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which 
> computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.
> Thanks for the suggestion and link.
> Ed Culpepper
> J. Edward Culpepper
> Huntsville, Alabama, USA
> Check out my weekly devotional blog, Blind Faith, at:
>    
> http://www.blindfaith.fbchsv2.org
> From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
> To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
> Hi:
> Have you tried the laptop layout?
> Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it.  This is also 
> available in a DAISY book through FS Reader.  Here is the link;
> ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip
>  
>
> Hope this helps.
> Sent from Mail   
> for Windows 10
> From: Ed Culpepper via Talk 
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:28 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
> Greeting WE Migrants -
> I am learning Jaws navigational keystrokes as I migrate from 
> beloved WE

Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

I may have missed the initial message or got confused with the various 
replies.


In order to use caps lock as the Jaws key do you have to turn laptop 
mode on?


Once laptop mode is on, can you still use the insert as the Jaws key and 
the numpad for navigation?


If true, it seems like laptop mode is more versitile than desktop mode.

If not, what do I have to do to have the caps lock and insert key both 
funcgtion as the Jaws key?


Thanks
Brenda

On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.


I hope that helps.


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On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:

Hi Raul,

I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default 
Jaws key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on 
caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says 
nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher 
pitch.  Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I 
am not sure why it is no longer working.


This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed, 
or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo 
accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the 
state of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be 
alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the 
Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to.  I believe 
someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I 
don't remember why.  I just hope the setting stays whenever it is 
necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way.  I 
like it like this.


Take care,

Carol




On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of 
the alt-tab order.



--
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Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
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Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

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David Thornburg


On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a 
desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile 
to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the 
capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for 
me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many times 
to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but even I 
can't have messed up that badly, LOL!


Carol, happily using my insert key!


On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be 
advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which 
computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.

Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
J. Edward Culpepper
Huntsville, Alabama, USA
Check out my weekly devotional blog, Blind Faith, at:
   
http://www.blindfaith.fbchsv2.org

From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it.  This is also 
available in a DAISY book through FS Reader.  Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip 


Hope this helps.
Sent from Mail   
for Windows 10

From: Ed Culpepper via Talk 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Greeting WE Migrants -
I am learning Jaws navigational keystrokes as I migrate from 
beloved WE to
Jaws. Using the insert key as a primary Jaws modifier key is very 
awkward
for me. On my keyboard the insert key is the top left key on the 
so-called
"6-pack" of keys located just above the arrow keys. The Jaws 
com

Re: Link for FSCast on Key Labels

That link didn't work for me either.

The following link should get you to the FS Podcast page where you can
chose which podcast you want.
www.freedomscientific.com/about/FSCast.

Kevin Huber

On 5/18/17, net bat via Talk  wrote:
> no go..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:45 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: Link for FSCast on Key Labels
>
> Hi list:
>
>
>
> Well, I messed up my own link.  Here it is, should get through without line
> breaks this time:
>
>
>
> http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
> tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3%22
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Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key

2017-05-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk

Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, 
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.


I hope that helps.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

“Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
David Thornburg


On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:

Hi Raul,

I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default Jaws 
key now.  I do have one question  Is it possible to turn on caps-lock? 
Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off.  Now, it says nothing when I 
press it and my letters do not speak with a higher pitch.  Fortunately, 
I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I am not sure why it is 
no longer working.


This is really strange!  I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed, 
or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo 
accidently instead.  Guess what!  Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the state 
of the Caps-Lock.  Go figure!  So, is it supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, 
or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?  Pressing the Caps-Lock key now 
works just like the insert key used to.  I believe someone indicated 
there were times I should press it twice, but I don't remember why.  I 
just hope the setting stays whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, 
since I don't know how it got this way.  I like it like this.


Take care,

Carol




On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by 
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys 
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really 
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of 
the alt-tab order.



--
Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer

“Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - 
David Thornburg


On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a 
desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile 
to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the 
capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for 
me.  It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many times 
to use it.  I am certain there was some operator error, but even I 
can't have messed up that badly, LOL!


Carol, happily using my insert key!


On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that 
possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I 
certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same 
keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be advantageous. 
Using the same keystrokes regardless of which computer I am using 
seems more simple and efficient.

Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
J. Edward Culpepper
Huntsville, Alabama, USA
Check out my weekly devotional blog, Blind Faith, at:
   
http://www.blindfaith.fbchsv2.org

From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it.  This is also 
available in a DAISY book through FS Reader.  Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip 


Hope this helps.
Sent from Mail   for 
Windows 10

From: Ed Culpepper via Talk 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Greeting WE Migrants -
I am learning Jaws navigational keystrokes as I migrate from beloved 
WE to
Jaws. Using the insert key as a primary Jaws modifier key is very 
awkward
for me. On my keyboard the insert key is the top left key on the 
so-called

"6-pack" of keys located just above the arrow keys. The Jaws command to
begin "Say All" (like WE "Read to End") is Insert-down arrow. That 
requires
an awkward contortion of my right hand or an inconvenient reach with 
my left
hand for the insert key as I press the down arrow with my right 
hand. Other
navigational commands use the insert key as the modifier with keys 
that are
usually typed with fingers on the right hand. I am finding these 
keystroke

combinations to be frustrating.
Obviously Jaws users have been using this illogical keystroke 
combination
for years. I

Re: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Robert Grimwood via Talk


Dear Amanda,


if you write to me privately, I will help you with WE9.53.


Regards,

Robert


On 5/25/2017 5:15 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:

I don't like to chime in with 'me too' messages.  However I reluctantly
bought into the migration.  I still wish I could purchase the upgrades to
and want a standalone V9.5.4 of Window-Eyes as I will continue to use it
until it will no longer function.  I still find Window-Eyes to be faster to
respond amongst other aspects.  I use JAWS at work and it can be tedious.

The only limitation you will find with Window-Eyes is in Windows 10 when new
functionality after this point is implemented.  Still, Window-Eyes won't
just stop working.  For example, when Office 2017 or later emerges, then
incompatibility issues may begin but if you don't choose to install Office
greater than Office 2016, then you can continue to use Window-Eyes as you
always have.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it
works, keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once
again on this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I
ever need it.  Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until
it doesn't work anymore.




On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less
ominous.

Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.

Brenda
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RE: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread CJ &AA MAY via Talk

Me too.

 

Alison

 

 

 

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RE: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk

I don't like to chime in with 'me too' messages.  However I reluctantly
bought into the migration.  I still wish I could purchase the upgrades to
and want a standalone V9.5.4 of Window-Eyes as I will continue to use it
until it will no longer function.  I still find Window-Eyes to be faster to
respond amongst other aspects.  I use JAWS at work and it can be tedious.

The only limitation you will find with Window-Eyes is in Windows 10 when new
functionality after this point is implemented.  Still, Window-Eyes won't
just stop working.  For example, when Office 2017 or later emerges, then
incompatibility issues may begin but if you don't choose to install Office
greater than Office 2016, then you can continue to use Window-Eyes as you
always have.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message

Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it 
works, keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once 
again on this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I 
ever need it.  Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until 
it doesn't work anymore.

On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost 
> died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes 
> End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just 
> said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less 
> ominous.
>
> Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes 
> still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I 
> just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs 
> like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which 
> makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.
>
> Brenda
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Re: End of Life Message

2017-05-25 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk


Hi.
remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes.  If it 
works, keep right on using it as long as you can!  I also have JAWS once 
again on this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I 
ever need it.  Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until 
it doesn't work anymore.





On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost 
died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes 
End of Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just 
said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less 
ominous.


Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes 
still works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I 
just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs 
like Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which 
makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.


Brenda
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Re: a question regarding jaws installation


Hey Lee,

Just to be safe if you have the license number and authorization code, I 
would download and install Jaws but just don't use it. VFO phone support 
can say otherwise, but the info might not be correct.  If it is on your 
computer and registered you will be in the system.


Brenda

On 5/25/2017 11:47 AM, Lee Hodgson via Talk wrote:

Hi ,
I wondered if anyone can answer a question for me.

I have my jaws authorisation code, but do not really, as yet, want to 
install jaws.
Will this authorisation code work whenever I use it? in other words, 
after the 31 july when the offer of free transfer expires?


I guess what I want to know is, if I install Jaws on say the 1st of 
september this year, will the authorisation ccode still work 
regardless.   I would imagine so, but just wanted to msound out about 
it, to put my mind at rest.

thanks and sorry if this is a silly question.
Lee, Emily my guiding furry snowflake and Chester and Simba the feline 
fellas.


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End of Life Message


Hello List,

I turn Window-eyes on manually.  Yesterday after my computer almost died 
due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes End of 
Life Notification.  Really depressing.  I wish they had just said 
window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less ominous.


Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes still 
works.  I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I just 
can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs like 
Vipre and Jaws doesn't.  Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which makes it 
work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't.


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a question regarding jaws installation

2017-05-25 Thread Lee Hodgson via Talk


Hi ,
I wondered if anyone can answer a question for me.

I have my jaws authorisation code, but do not really, as yet, want to 
install jaws.
Will this authorisation code work whenever I use it? in other words, 
after the 31 july when the offer of free transfer expires?


I guess what I want to know is, if I install Jaws on say the 1st of 
september this year, will the authorisation ccode still work 
regardless.   I would imagine so, but just wanted to msound out about 
it, to put my mind at rest.

thanks and sorry if this is a silly question.
Lee, Emily my guiding furry snowflake and Chester and Simba the feline fellas.  

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RE: WE with Win 10 Mail

2017-05-25 Thread Whizza via Talk

Hi Ramona,
I ran into the same problem you did.  The first message read without a hitch
but that was it.  I couldn't get WE to read the next or subsequent messages.
The rest of the program is, as you say, pretty accessible but it's no good
if you can't read messages.  I gave it up as a bad job in the end and went
to Outlook 2016.
Sorry not to be more helpful.

Cheers,
Sandra.

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Re: files not found/Re: moving to the next page

Hi:

The reason why those links didn't work because the last part of each
one was on a separate line, so you were trying to activate a partial
link.

I tried them just a while ago and made that discovery.

Kevin Huber

On 5/19/17, net bat via Talk  wrote:
> doesn't work.
> it says the page or file can not be found.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: brice Mijares via Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:00 AM
> To: net bat via Talk
> Subject: Re: files not found/Re: moving to the next page
>
> Try using the context menu within your email client to download the 2
> PDF files. That's how I got them.
>
> On 5/18/2017 8:46 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
>> i get 404 errors for all of your links
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:59 PM
>> To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: moving to the next page
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Below my name are a couple of links I got from the person I spoke with
>> when
>> I got Jaws. I think they will come in quite handy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paulette
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JAWS Keystrokes
>> > pdf>
>>
>>
>>
>> JAWS Quick Start Guide
>> > Start-Guide.pdf>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:31 PM
>> To: Paulette Vickery via Talk
>> Subject: Re: moving to the next page
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you try control page down? Also, please send me a link to that PDF.
>>
>> thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2017 3:55 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Someone from JAWS sent me a link to something called, JAWS Quick Start
>>
>>> Guide, in pdf format. I opened it and have the title page. Now how do I
>>> go
>>
>>> to the next page, using Window Eyes? I have version 9.4, I believe.
>>> Thanks
>>
>>> for your help.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Paulette
>>
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Re: converting to jaws

Hi Netbat:

In my opinion, charging it is a bad idea if you don't have the money
in the first place. (smile)
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On 5/18/17, net bat via Talk  wrote:
> charge it! grin.
> even with a years worth of interest it would still cost less then $900 to
> buy
> it.
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: converting to jaws
>
> As I understand it though doesn't that only apply till the end of July?
> Because if so there'll be no way I'll be able to save up that much.
>
>
>
> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Huber
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
> To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: converting to jaws
>
> Hi Brian:
>
> Even if your retail copy is not current, you will get a substantial
> discount.  For instance, if you have WE version 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,  8.3 or
> 8.4, it will cost $130 in U.S. funds, and the cost goes up for lower
> versions.
>
>
>
> Kevin Huber
>
>
> On 5/17/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:
>> I only wish I could. Unfortunately my retail copy of WE isn't current and
>> I
>>
>> can't purchase an upgrade. Fortunately a lot of what I used to remember
>> has
>>
>> been coming back to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Armando Maldonado via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
>> To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: converting to jaws
>>
>> Haven't got mine yet so hope things work out.
>> Armando
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Don H via Talk" 
>> To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:05 PM
>> Subject: converting to jaws
>>
>>
>>> So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing a
>>> Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am told
>>> I
>>>
>>> should finally get my activation key tomorrow.
>>> The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE.
>>> Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't think
>>> I
>>>
>>> could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free.  Of course VFO
>>> will
>>>
>>> still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future.
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Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

2017-05-25 Thread Dave via Talk

  Kevin, you just did, and have been for a while.  You are 
Amazing!

Grumpy Dave


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Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

Hi Peter:

I think you have to hand it to Donald Trump.  It is an amazing feat of
agility to be able to actually walk around with one, sometimes both
feet in his mouth. (grin)
I'll bet you can't do that, Of course, Neither can I.
Kevin Huber

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> Well, now all of you officially know that Window-Eyes is really dead!  But,
> why couldn’t most of  you (mostly well-educated and intelligent) folks
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>
> That is  by no means a silly question.  Analysis of news stories, by
> independent researchers, over the past 6 months reveal that smart people as
> well as stupid people embrace “fake news” with equal relish.  Why is that?
>
> Also, lots of folks still believe that President Trump is “doing a good job”
> in spite of the fact that nothing has been really accomplished so far and
> that Trump apparently has no clue about the facts at hand.
>
> It is an intriguing question, pondered by sociologists, why approximately
> half of the population, in any given community at any given time, will
> believe “crazy stuff” if asserted by a “figure of authority”.
>
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downloading tapin radio

2017-05-25 Thread BK via Talk

Hello, I tried to download tapin radio from their home page, but it is
so confusing, I was going in circles. Does anyone know where I can download
tapin radio besides raimersoft's home page? Does anyone know what
version works best with jaws on a windows 10 machine? All help is
appreciated.

Butch
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Re: list of all jaws commands

Hi Jeff:

The list is in JAWS Help.  Go to the JAWS Control panel by pressing
insert-j and then press alt-h to get to the help menu.  If you arrow
down a few times you will get to an item that says something like
"keyboard commands",  press the Enter key and you will be presented
with the list of JAWS keys.
Kevin Huber.

On 5/24/17, Jeff Weiss via Talk  wrote:
> Is there a list somewhere of all the jaws commands?
> I would certainly like to have such a list.
> thanks
> Jeff Weiss
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Re: WE with Win 10 Mail

2017-05-25 Thread Ian Westerland via Talk



Hi Ramona.  I tried the program but couldn't get passed the "Add 
Account" button.  From there on, nothing spoke using curser keys, or the 
numeric key pad so unless there's a trick I don't know, it doesn't seem 
to work.


I have the latest version of WE.

My priority email program is ThunderBird and that does what I want.

Sorry for the bad news.

Regards


Ian Westerland


On 5/25/2017 8:59 AM, Ramona Mandy via Talk wrote:

Hi,

My Name is Ramona mandy. I am new to this list and this is my first post. So 
please excuse me if this topic has already been discussed.

Does anyone have any experience with using WE with the Windows 10 Mail app and 
can advise on accessibility or otherwise?

I am running WE 9.5.4.

I find that when I first launch Mail and Enter on the first message I select, 
WE will read it fine and I can navigate and hear the text by moving up or down 
arrow.

However, if I then close that message with escape or delete it with CTRL+D, 
then open another message, if I arrow up or down, it just says blank. WE also 
does not read it at all when I open it.

In this case, if I turn off browse mode and tab, I sometimes find a link to 
download message and pictures which is odd because I thought the message would 
already be downloaded. I enter on this and then sometimes I can launch browse 
mode and read the message, but once again, not always.

Sometimes, if the message is presenting as blank, I can turn off browse mode 
and will find a link by tabbing to read the message in a web browser which then 
works, but I don't want to have to always read my messages by opening them in 
IE.

I find the rest of the program is reasonably accessible such as tabbing to 
buttons. It is this reading problem that I am interested to hear how others 
have found it.

Thanks
Ramona


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Re: Jaws installing latest version

2017-05-25 Thread Chris G via Talk


Hi,
It will install over JAWS 18.

When they say having multiple versions of JAWS installed, they say 16, 
17, 18, not the patches.




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 Original Message 
From: Neville via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:11 PM EST
To: Window Eyes
Subject: Jaws installing latest version

Hi,
A few days ago I installed the then current version of Jaws to try it
out while waiting for my registration code. Which still has not arrived.

My question concerns the installation of the latest Jaws version
released in the past few days.

Will the latest version install over the previous version in the same
folder or will it install in a new folder?  My question relates to being
able to have more than one version of Jaws installed on a system at the
same time.

  Thanks
Neville.
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Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

2017-05-25 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk


does this work in the windows file explorer and the message list in wlm?

-Original Message- 
From: Marten Post Uiterweer

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:42 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

Hi,

There is an sort of top / bottom index indication. I was searching for
the same and I found an option.
In the quick settings menu [ins-v] arrow down and press t until you have
the option:
top and bottom edge alert
with space bar you can toggle between sound and silence. Silence is the
default.

In the quick settings menu, you can also fill in the word: top
and press arrow down.

Regards, Marten



On Wed, 24 May 2017 06:43:34 -0700 Russ Kiehne via Talk 
 wrote:


I don't think jaws has the optionn of saying top and bottom when arrowing 
up

and down a file list in windows explorer.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

Hi Tom,

And so you're saying our beloved Window-Eyes developers took pains to 
allow

these unique windows to share their treasures with their devoted users.
(sniff)
We really got burned, didn't we?

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf

Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: May 23, 2017 3:24 PM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion 
List


Subject: Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS

I haven't installed JAWS yet. But I assume the problem is that JAWS does
not possess the elegant code Window-Eyes does to determine the logical
status bar when there is no actual status bar, which is the case on the
desktop and in Thunderbird.
Obviously there's no status bar on the desktop. But in Thunderbird there
is a window that looks and acts like a status bar, but it is not
(technically speaking) a true status bar.
It's a good example of the never-ending uphill battle screen-reader
developers face. Windows has a specific status bar window that can be
created and yet it is not uncommon for developers to just tack on
another standard window that accomplishes the same purpose visually.
Regards,
Tom


On 5/23/2017 1:30 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
> Thank you, but that was not the answer.  The window is already
> maximized.  Ctrl-numpad page down says absolutely nothing.  If I move to
> my Carol folder, it says 465 items.  If I am on the desktop, it says
> 5/23/2017.  If I select some random items from a folder, it then says x
> number of items selected.  It will read how many pages, words and some
> percentage in Office Word.  It will not read anything from Thunderbird
> that should represent any type of status information.  I can go back to
> the main folder list in Thunderbird and get a number of how many unread
> messages there are for all unread messages, but they are not broken into
> different accounts.
>
> I have finished beating this dead horse, so I am walking off into the
> sunset, grin!
>
>
> Carol
>
>
> On 5/23/2017 12:44 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:
>> Sometimes I find that the status lines only reads correctly when the
>> window has been maximized.  You might see if that helps in this case.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:10 AM
>> To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
>>
>> If the key is insert-page down, then I never have anything in the 
>> status
>> line except for the file explorer.  I am used to having a status line 
>> in
>> Thunderbird that tells me how many messages there, how many are not 
>> read

>> and in some cases, how many have been deleted.  I have tried using both
>> the insert-page down on the number pad and the ones on the six-pack. 
>> It

>> says absolutely nothing.  Oh yes, somethimes, when I am on the desktop,
>> it will tell me either the date or the time, depending on what mood it
>> is in, grin.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/2017 6:29 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
>>> Yes it's insert plus page down. On a desktop, it's insert plus the
>>> numpad 3.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:26 PM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Fw: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Tom Fairhurst
>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:07 PM
>>> To: talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com
>>> Subject: Reading the Status Line in JAWS
>>>
>>> Is there a JAWS equivalent for reading the status line in a window in
>>> MS Word or other programs? Reading the top or bottom line doesn’t
>>> give enough information. If one can’t id

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