Re: NVDA and Touch Screens

[David via Talk]

Memory serves me right, turning on and off browse mode in nvda, you have 
to press Insert-Space.


As for touch-screen support, I am no familiar, so cannot help.


Like you have already been adviced, you might want to ask your questions 
on the NVDA list. I do know, there was some discussion about touch 
handling, recently. Yet, since I am not on such a device, I skipped it all.



On 11/16/2017 10:08 PM, Andre via Talk wrote:
> I was wondering about NVDA and touch screens. I have to help my son access
> ABC Mouse on a pc running Windows 10 (fall creators). It seems like
> something has changed. Maybe not though. Basically my question is:
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Is it possible to keep NVDA running (for me) and still allow him to just use
> the regular touch screen gestures? For instance, when I have him on YouTube
> and I'm running NVDA so I can choose what I want him to watch, he can't just
> tap on play/pause and have it play or pause the video. I have to completely
> quit NVDA. After doing a Google search, I tried the sleep mode, but that
> didn't seem to work either. So are there any addons I can get to negate the
> nvda touch gestures, etc.?
>
>   
>
> Hopefully you understand what I'm asking. If not, please let me know. By the
> way, I'm no NVDA expert either. I know he can just touch the screen when I'm
> running Window-Eyes, but my browse mode feature disappeared and that was WE
> 9.5.4. I'm trying NVDA 2017.3. I think that's what it's called. So is there
> a way to keep NVDA running and turn off its touch support? I figure if I can
> do that, then that will kind of simulate Window-Eyes' browse mode.
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
>   
>
>   
>
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Re: We certificates

[Loy Green via Talk]

Reading  your messages about certificates and authorizations, I am confused 
about which version of Window Eyes you are talking about. Sometimes it seems 
you are talking about the paid version and sometimes you are talking about the 
WE for Office. I don't know much about the WE for Office version.
But for the Paid version there is no limit on the number of installations. And 
it is not clear what the certificate problem you mention is. I do know that 
around the first of  2017 there was a problem with certificates with AISquared 
products and there was an update to fix this problem in January. Could it be 
you are trying to install a version that had this certificate problem? Here is 
link that discusses this problem.
https://www.aisquared.com/certificatefix/
VFO no longer supports WE Paid version but they should give you a link to 
download full copy of your paid version of WE and then you can install without 
the problems.
  - Original Message - 
  From: net bat via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: net bat 
  Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: We certificates


  are you sure you have the full installation file?
  the downloads are usually not.
  i had to email vfo with my serial number and name. then they sent me a link 
to 
  download it with my serial number already embedded in the file.


  -Original Message- 
  From: Kevin Huber via Talk
  Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:35 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Kevin Huber
  Subject: Re: We certificates

  Hi Larry:

  I would just go ahead and reinstall WeForOffice.
  In the long run, you save time because you will not have to try
  something, have it not work and then try again.

  You may have to redownload it from the website.  I did that not too
  long ago, because I wanted to make sure that the website still exists
  and that I have a copy of the istallation file in case the website is
  taken down by the folks at VFO.

  Kevin Huber


  On 11/14/17, Larry Higgins via Talk  wrote:
  > Kevin,
  >
  >
  > Now that this issue has come up, I have a question I hope you have some
  > insight into.
  >
  >
  > For some reason, each time I make a major update to Windows 10, WE goes
  > into demo mode,  making it necessary to go to license management and
  > renew online. When I try doing it offline, it gives me an invalid
  > warning. When I do it offline, it tells me that I have a dwindling
  > number of renewal options, and now it appears that I have run out. So,
  > do you know how to deal with what appears to be the inevitable situation
  > where I am actually out of validations?
  >
  >
  > Who knows, maybe then it will be necessary to either uninstall, and then
  > reinstall another copy of WE for Office.
  >
  >
  > Any ideas?
  >
  >
  > On 11/14/2017 3:24 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:
  >> Hi Bernie:
  >>
  >> OK.  I will make another attempt at answering your question as I was
  >> not quite awake the first time.
  >> If you have a valid license for Microsoft Office version 10 or higher, you
  >> can
  >> run Window-eyes for Office and it will work perfectly. If it does not
  >> find a valid license, it will run in Demo mode.
  >>
  >> You can find all the information on www.windoweyesforoffice.com.
  >>
  >> Kevin Huber
  >>
  >>
  >> On 11/14/17, Kevin Huber  wrote:
  >>> Hi  Bernie:
  >>>
  >>> bAs for your question about Microsoft Office, If you have a valid
  >>> license for Microsoft Office 10 or above, all you need to do is to
  >>> start Windoweyesforoffice and if it doesn't find yourMicrosoft Office
  >>> license, it will just run in demo mode.
  >>>
  >>> You can get the information at www.windoweyesforoffice.com and you can
  >>> get all the information from there
  >>>
  >>> On 11/12/17, Bernie Perella via Talk  wrote:
   HI, Thanks for your note.  I did, in fact, purchase the acapella voices
   but I think they sent the wrong authorization.  I have two copies of WE,
   one on an older system 9.0 on a Vista system.  the other is We for
   office now running on Windows 10 version 17 09.  I am not sure but I
   seem to remember that when you got WE for office, you had to download an
   authorization so they would know you had purchased Office from MS.  Am I
   wrong about that?  Thanks, B
  
  
   On 11/12/2017 7:17 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
  > Not sure what authorizations you are talking about, if it is for
  > voices
  > you purchased for the paid version of WE 9.54, you need to request a
  > download link from AISquared that would include any paid versions of
  > voices you purchased. They were still giving these links a while back,
  > but
  > don't know how long they might continue doing so.
  > >>
  > >> On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote:
  > >>> HI, I have a 

RE: NVDA and Touch Screens

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Andre,

Here's the info page for an NVDA email list where you can submit all such 
enquiries:

https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Read down the page for the link to subscribe.

hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Andre via Talk
Sent: November 16, 2017 4:09 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Andre 
Subject: NVDA and Touch Screens

I was wondering about NVDA and touch screens. I have to help my son access
ABC Mouse on a pc running Windows 10 (fall creators). It seems like
something has changed. Maybe not though. Basically my question is:

 

 

Is it possible to keep NVDA running (for me) and still allow him to just use
the regular touch screen gestures? For instance, when I have him on YouTube
and I'm running NVDA so I can choose what I want him to watch, he can't just
tap on play/pause and have it play or pause the video. I have to completely
quit NVDA. After doing a Google search, I tried the sleep mode, but that
didn't seem to work either. So are there any addons I can get to negate the
nvda touch gestures, etc.? 

 

Hopefully you understand what I'm asking. If not, please let me know. By the
way, I'm no NVDA expert either. I know he can just touch the screen when I'm
running Window-Eyes, but my browse mode feature disappeared and that was WE
9.5.4. I'm trying NVDA 2017.3. I think that's what it's called. So is there
a way to keep NVDA running and turn off its touch support? I figure if I can
do that, then that will kind of simulate Window-Eyes' browse mode.

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

 

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Re: We certificates

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Kevin is using WE for Ofice. That's a free full download for anyone.
Regards,
Tom


On 11/16/2017 3:44 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

are you sure you have the full installation file?
the downloads are usually not.
i had to email vfo with my serial number and name. then they sent me a 
link to download it with my serial number already embedded in the file.



-Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Kevin Huber
Subject: Re: We certificates

Hi Larry:

I would just go ahead and reinstall WeForOffice.
In the long run, you save time because you will not have to try
something, have it not work and then try again.

You may have to redownload it from the website.  I did that not too
long ago, because I wanted to make sure that the website still exists
and that I have a copy of the istallation file in case the website is
taken down by the folks at VFO.

Kevin Huber


On 11/14/17, Larry Higgins via Talk  wrote:

Kevin,


Now that this issue has come up, I have a question I hope you have some
insight into.


For some reason, each time I make a major update to Windows 10, WE goes
into demo mode,  making it necessary to go to license management and
renew online. When I try doing it offline, it gives me an invalid
warning. When I do it offline, it tells me that I have a dwindling
number of renewal options, and now it appears that I have run out. So,
do you know how to deal with what appears to be the inevitable situation
where I am actually out of validations?


Who knows, maybe then it will be necessary to either uninstall, and then
reinstall another copy of WE for Office.


Any ideas?


On 11/14/2017 3:24 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Bernie:

OK.  I will make another attempt at answering your question as I was
not quite awake the first time.
If you have a valid license for Microsoft Office version 10 or 
higher, you

can
run Window-eyes for Office and it will work perfectly. If it does not
find a valid license, it will run in Demo mode.

You can find all the information on www.windoweyesforoffice.com.

Kevin Huber


On 11/14/17, Kevin Huber  wrote:

Hi  Bernie:

bAs for your question about Microsoft Office, If you have a valid
license for Microsoft Office 10 or above, all you need to do is to
start Windoweyesforoffice and if it doesn't find yourMicrosoft Office
license, it will just run in demo mode.

You can get the information at www.windoweyesforoffice.com and you can
get all the information from there

On 11/12/17, Bernie Perella via Talk  
wrote:
HI, Thanks for your note.  I did, in fact, purchase the acapella 
voices
but I think they sent the wrong authorization.  I have two copies 
of WE,

one on an older system 9.0 on a Vista system.  the other is We for
office now running on Windows 10 version 17 09.  I am not sure but I
seem to remember that when you got WE for office, you had to 
download an
authorization so they would know you had purchased Office from MS.  
Am I

wrong about that?  Thanks, B


On 11/12/2017 7:17 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:

    Not sure what authorizations you are talking about, if it is for
voices
you purchased for the paid version of WE 9.54, you need to request a
download link from AISquared that would include any paid versions of
voices you purchased. They were still giving these links a while 
back,

but
don't know how long they might continue doing so.
    >>
    >> On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote:
    >>> HI, I have a couple of authorization files that I had gotten
from
Gw
    >>> before they went belly up. However, none of these 
authorization

files
    >>> will run and they give the error that they are blocked by an
    >>> administrator. Is there any way to get these authorization
files
with
    >>> the new certificate? thanks. B
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NVDA and Touch Screens

[Andre via Talk]

I was wondering about NVDA and touch screens. I have to help my son access
ABC Mouse on a pc running Windows 10 (fall creators). It seems like
something has changed. Maybe not though. Basically my question is:

 

 

Is it possible to keep NVDA running (for me) and still allow him to just use
the regular touch screen gestures? For instance, when I have him on YouTube
and I'm running NVDA so I can choose what I want him to watch, he can't just
tap on play/pause and have it play or pause the video. I have to completely
quit NVDA. After doing a Google search, I tried the sleep mode, but that
didn't seem to work either. So are there any addons I can get to negate the
nvda touch gestures, etc.? 

 

Hopefully you understand what I'm asking. If not, please let me know. By the
way, I'm no NVDA expert either. I know he can just touch the screen when I'm
running Window-Eyes, but my browse mode feature disappeared and that was WE
9.5.4. I'm trying NVDA 2017.3. I think that's what it's called. So is there
a way to keep NVDA running and turn off its touch support? I figure if I can
do that, then that will kind of simulate Window-Eyes' browse mode.

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

 

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Re: Question About WLM

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

It did not cure the problem.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:03 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: net bat
Subject: Re: Question About WLM

open the ribbon and find it.
it says grid drop down button then it will say application menu.
you press enter on it  then arrow down to options then  to mail then go to 
the

tab control to  send.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: Question About WLM

Yes, I am using WLM 2012.

How do I find the applications menu?

-Bob.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:42 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: net bat
Subject: Re: Question About WLM

are you useing wlm 2012?
its in the applications pull down
options, mail.
then go to the control tab to send
the option is in there.
there is another option there about plain text but i left this alone. grin.
i
don't want to mess mine up.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:24 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: Question About WLM

You wrote:

try turning off the option to send your
message in the format it was sent in.
 maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain
text.

How do I do this?

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: net bat
Subject: Re: Question About WLM

sometimes, like if you have firefox and wlm loaded at the same time w e will
lose focus and i have to open the wlm pull down menu and click on restore
and
speech will come back.
but most of the time i have to unload and reload w e and speech will come
back.
i also have to reload w e if i am composeing a message and press escape,
which
turns browse mode on. once i do this i get invalid key with every key i
press.
when it does this i have to reload w e to get it back.
***
this may not make any difference. but try turning off the option to send
your
message in the format it was sent in.
maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain
text.
***
make sure the message window is maximized.
sometimes this helps.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:37 AM
To: Talk
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Question About WLM

Windows 10

Window-Eyes 9.4.5

WLM



This started a couple months ago.



When I use the N command to open and write an email, I can’t read what I am
writing. I can read the address and subject, but not the text.



I have to write it in Word and then paste it into the out-going email.



I can read incoming emails no sweat.



I used to be able to read while writing an email, but not now.



Any suggestions?





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Re: We certificates

[net bat via Talk]

are you sure you have the full installation file?
the downloads are usually not.
i had to email vfo with my serial number and name. then they sent me a link to 
download it with my serial number already embedded in the file.



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Huber via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Kevin Huber
Subject: Re: We certificates

Hi Larry:

I would just go ahead and reinstall WeForOffice.
In the long run, you save time because you will not have to try
something, have it not work and then try again.

You may have to redownload it from the website.  I did that not too
long ago, because I wanted to make sure that the website still exists
and that I have a copy of the istallation file in case the website is
taken down by the folks at VFO.

Kevin Huber


On 11/14/17, Larry Higgins via Talk  wrote:

Kevin,


Now that this issue has come up, I have a question I hope you have some
insight into.


For some reason, each time I make a major update to Windows 10, WE goes
into demo mode,  making it necessary to go to license management and
renew online. When I try doing it offline, it gives me an invalid
warning. When I do it offline, it tells me that I have a dwindling
number of renewal options, and now it appears that I have run out. So,
do you know how to deal with what appears to be the inevitable situation
where I am actually out of validations?


Who knows, maybe then it will be necessary to either uninstall, and then
reinstall another copy of WE for Office.


Any ideas?


On 11/14/2017 3:24 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Bernie:

OK.  I will make another attempt at answering your question as I was
not quite awake the first time.
If you have a valid license for Microsoft Office version 10 or higher, you
can
run Window-eyes for Office and it will work perfectly. If it does not
find a valid license, it will run in Demo mode.

You can find all the information on www.windoweyesforoffice.com.

Kevin Huber


On 11/14/17, Kevin Huber  wrote:

Hi  Bernie:

bAs for your question about Microsoft Office, If you have a valid
license for Microsoft Office 10 or above, all you need to do is to
start Windoweyesforoffice and if it doesn't find yourMicrosoft Office
license, it will just run in demo mode.

You can get the information at www.windoweyesforoffice.com and you can
get all the information from there

On 11/12/17, Bernie Perella via Talk  wrote:

HI, Thanks for your note.  I did, in fact, purchase the acapella voices
but I think they sent the wrong authorization.  I have two copies of WE,
one on an older system 9.0 on a Vista system.  the other is We for
office now running on Windows 10 version 17 09.  I am not sure but I
seem to remember that when you got WE for office, you had to download an
authorization so they would know you had purchased Office from MS.  Am I
wrong about that?  Thanks, B


On 11/12/2017 7:17 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:

Not sure what authorizations you are talking about, if it is for
voices
you purchased for the paid version of WE 9.54, you need to request a
download link from AISquared that would include any paid versions of
voices you purchased. They were still giving these links a while back,
but
don't know how long they might continue doing so.
>>
>> On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote:
>>> HI, I have a couple of authorization files that I had gotten
from
Gw
>>> before they went belly up. However, none of these authorization
files
>>> will run and they give the error that they are blocked by an
>>> administrator. Is there any way to get these authorization
files
with
>>> the new certificate? thanks. B
>>>
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>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
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Re: We certificates

[Kevin Huber via Talk]

Hi Larry:

I would just go ahead and reinstall WeForOffice.
In the long run, you save time because you will not have to try
something, have it not work and then try again.

You may have to redownload it from the website.  I did that not too
long ago, because I wanted to make sure that the website still exists
and that I have a copy of the istallation file in case the website is
taken down by the folks at VFO.

Kevin Huber


On 11/14/17, Larry Higgins via Talk  wrote:
> Kevin,
>
>
> Now that this issue has come up, I have a question I hope you have some
> insight into.
>
>
> For some reason, each time I make a major update to Windows 10, WE goes
> into demo mode,  making it necessary to go to license management and
> renew online. When I try doing it offline, it gives me an invalid
> warning. When I do it offline, it tells me that I have a dwindling
> number of renewal options, and now it appears that I have run out. So,
> do you know how to deal with what appears to be the inevitable situation
> where I am actually out of validations?
>
>
> Who knows, maybe then it will be necessary to either uninstall, and then
> reinstall another copy of WE for Office.
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 3:24 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Bernie:
>>
>> OK.  I will make another attempt at answering your question as I was
>> not quite awake the first time.
>> If you have a valid license for Microsoft Office version 10 or higher, you
>> can
>> run Window-eyes for Office and it will work perfectly. If it does not
>> find a valid license, it will run in Demo mode.
>>
>> You can find all the information on www.windoweyesforoffice.com.
>>
>> Kevin Huber
>>
>>
>> On 11/14/17, Kevin Huber  wrote:
>>> Hi  Bernie:
>>>
>>> bAs for your question about Microsoft Office, If you have a valid
>>> license for Microsoft Office 10 or above, all you need to do is to
>>> start Windoweyesforoffice and if it doesn't find yourMicrosoft Office
>>> license, it will just run in demo mode.
>>>
>>> You can get the information at www.windoweyesforoffice.com and you can
>>> get all the information from there
>>>
>>> On 11/12/17, Bernie Perella via Talk  wrote:
 HI, Thanks for your note.  I did, in fact, purchase the acapella voices
 but I think they sent the wrong authorization.  I have two copies of WE,
 one on an older system 9.0 on a Vista system.  the other is We for
 office now running on Windows 10 version 17 09.  I am not sure but I
 seem to remember that when you got WE for office, you had to download an
 authorization so they would know you had purchased Office from MS.  Am I
 wrong about that?  Thanks, B


 On 11/12/2017 7:17 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
> Not sure what authorizations you are talking about, if it is for
> voices
> you purchased for the paid version of WE 9.54, you need to request a
> download link from AISquared that would include any paid versions of
> voices you purchased. They were still giving these links a while back,
> but
> don't know how long they might continue doing so.
> >>
> >> On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote:
> >>> HI, I have a couple of authorization files that I had gotten
> from
> Gw
> >>> before they went belly up. However, none of these authorization
> files
> >>> will run and they give the error that they are blocked by an
> >>> administrator. Is there any way to get these authorization
> files
> with
> >>> the new certificate? thanks. B
> >>>
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