Re: Command for new folder creation
Hey, guess what, the Ctrl-Shift-N even worked on my Win7 machine, once I used the bypass. Thanks alot, still learning. Glad I do not have to deal with the ribbon. Never got used to it, so its great news there will be some hotkeys to benefit from, the day I make the move. David On 3/1/2020 9:28 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: > Windows 10 uses a ribbon in File Explorer. One of the side effects of > this is that you get some alt-number shortcuts. You can change their > definitions, but they come with a few. And they are not very > consistent among programs, and I think not even consistent within > parts of some large programs. So I tend not to use them. > By default, ctrl-shift-N is the Window-Eyes hotkey for reading a field > name. So unless you have remapped this key, you might need to press > the bypass keystroke first. To check your current Window-Eyes hotkey > mappings, you can use Insert-1. > > > > Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD > http://lras.home.sprynet.com > -Original Message- From: David via Talk > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 4:46 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: Command for new folder creation > > OK, so is this a new feature of Win10? > > > If I understood the initial message right, sitting Windows Explorer, you > should be able to press Alt-2, and get the creation of a new folder. I > tried with my Win7 system, just for the fun of it. Went to Windows > Explorer, hit Alt-2, and a little later Google Chrome opened. I thought > that was strange enough, but decided to explore what would happen if I > pressed Alt-3. Guess what, Google Chrome came up once again. I now > decided to test the alternativ that was mentioned, Ctrl-Shif-N, in my > Windows Explorer. To disappoint any Win7 users, it generated no action > at all. > > > I know, this was a Win10 question, and hope not to put anyone off track. > Just thought how strange it is, that not only does it seem to be > different from one system to the other, but even might generate > different results from one Operativ System to the next one. Yet another > challenge, when developers are not too consistent with their hotkeys. > Particularly as menu and ribbon navigation increasingly becomes more of > a job. > > David > > On 3/1/2020 8:45 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: >> And while we're at it, I'm running 1903 and both commands work. Go >> figure. >> I'm not aware of a way to edit these types of commands, but you may be >> able to find it with a little help from Google. >> Good luck, >> Tom >> >> >> On 2/29/2020 11:28 PM, Carol Smith via Talk wrote: >>> Hi Donald, >>> >>> I never knew about the alt-2 command. I am currently running version >>> 1903 and this command does work. The shift-control-n command does >>> nothing on my computer. I find this a bit funny that we both are >>> running 10 but have to use different commmands to do the same task. >>> >>> Carol >>> On 2/29/2020 11:59 AM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I’m running W E 9.5.4.0 on a Windows 10 desktop; operating system windows 1809, a recent version. I realize that 1909 is the latest, but I am in no hurry to upgrade. When I first installed the earliest version of Windows 10, the command to create a new folder was alt 2. For the past several months, I can no longer use Alt 2 to create a new folder. Instead, shift control N will create a new folder. This is true regardless of whether I am using Window-eyes or Jaws 18. I have never knowingly installed a key remapper on this or any system, so I have no idea whatsoever as to why I can no longer use alt 2. Could any lister explain why this might have happened and also how I can get alt 2 back as the appropriate command for folder creation. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >>> >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views
Re: Solving Mouse Trap
Peter, sometimes a bit of a challenge to know how much to tell, and what to leave out. One user is this much experienced, the next is all that much of a newbie, or too worried to go for anything new. Sorry if my advices tend to be too thorough. Sounds like your mouse does have ears, does it. Perhaps it has been reading about all the clean-up and reinstallation, and is afraid the next thing you are going to bring onto your system is the Cat. Please do make it aware, that the cable you are using for hooking up to the Internet, is named a CAT cable. Cat here telling the standard for how to connect the many wires inside the cable, in both ends. And, remind the mouse of your computer, that the CAT standard is up to version 6 now, though you might only be at version 5 yourself currently. See if any of that will make the mouse start to behave. Big smiles, and please excuse the jokes. Sure seems you have the habit of taking good measures of safety. That does root out a few possibilities. So let's see if we can get anything further. Maybe the following is old news to you, and in such a case, please disregard it. AVG. That one is not just inaccessible for screen readers, and has been for a long time. It even is almost impossible to get rid of, once it has entered your computer. I did spend a number of hours a couple of years ago, to get rid of that very software. It came bundled with something else, and had got installed without my knowing. Attempting to uninstall by means of normal Windows routines, only left me with some error messages, and a load of head-scratching. Going to Programs and Features in Windows, Right-clicking on the AVG entry, and then trying to run what AVG and Windows had conspired to name uninstallation, resulted in a window that the screen reader could not read. Searching the net, I found that AVG offers their taylored uninstallation software, which supposedly should remove the stuff from the computer. Downloading and running that uninstaller, again resulted in a screen that was non-usable for the screen reader. Attempting to use WinEyes, NVDA or Jaws, it was all to no avail. Two eyes would have known what to click on, and how to get the mouse there. But with the screen readers, it was close to impossible. And why Close? Well, because I found that one screen reader would read one part of the dialogs, another screen reader would pick up something else. By running Jaws and WinEyes simultaneously, and using their OCR features, I finally was able to operate the silly dialogs, and have the system rid itself of AVG. Jaws performed the better on the OCR job, but was unable to click any of the buttons. WinEyes did a poor job in the OCR, but got the mouse clicks working. A bunch of chattering from both screen readers. Wish they could have been set to speak in each their ear, it would have made the job a tiny bit easier. Did I say the system got rid of the AVG? In That would have been a great exergeration. I ran a clean-up, using a couple of cleaners. They reported having cleaned out so many files and entries. Checking my system, several traces were still left. Ended up having to manually going through my Registry, deleting each and every entry that would refer to anything that had to do with AVG and its manufacturer. A step that seemed to be well-known, when I checked the net. Users suggested this to be the way to go. OK, an anti-ware should not let itself be removed by chance, or by some intruders. Still, when you download and run the uninstaller provided by the manufacturer, directly from their homepage, you hope to get rid of their product altogether. And just to tell, AVG is not the only example of this. Had a struggle in getting another piece of anti-virus off my system many years back. Even plain normal software, sometimes can be quite sticky. Sum of it all? Don't rely on one screen reader, if you want to make certain of getting the job done. And make sure the technician will be aware that things are not necessarily removed from your computer, just because the stuff is not showing up on the taskbar, or reported as not running when you check the control panel. Maybe your tech personel simply is not aware this fact, and did leave something behind, or even replaced with something else that they thought you needed or even wanted. Maybe inform them that you do not and never want anything installed - temporarily or permanently - on your computer, which you did not explicitly agree on. Too many a software now aday, is not constructed with screen reader users in mind. Strangely enough, since the usage of screen readers have become far more widely known. Wish they had that as part of the educational program for the developer students, to always ensure screen reader accessibility. And it does not even take that much more time, if it is included from scratch. Anyway, have to face the real world. Smile. JAVA. OK. Why do you have Java on y
Re: A big problem with Winamp, help please!
I won't run jaws either. I use window-eyes when possible and also run n v d a. Each program does some things better. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: David, Thanks much for the URL for the cleaner. Although I have managed to solve my Winamp issue with a system restore, I am having an issue with Window-Eyes which renders browse mode a bit unstable, and can't figure out why I am the only one using Windows 10 who seems to be having a problem using WE. My reasons for using an end of life product like Window-Eyes are plenty, not the least of which is not wanting to even consider purchasing JAWS, due to both, the money involved, and their cut throat ways, and the way they went after Window-Eyes in what I suspect was a rather underhanded manner. But then again, that is just personal opinion and suspicion. Maybe the guys at GWMicro could have played things a little smarter, but the loss of both the product and such a good company with such fine staff was IMHO a travesty. Sorry, really didn't mean to digress in such a manner, but there are just some things for which I find WE quite Necessary, especially as they relate to Reading my books from Bookshare. It looks like IE11 is the only handy way I can find to read them, and WE and their browse mode in their present condition on my system leave much to be desired. But, who knows, maybe RegClean may play an important part in clearing things up. Thanks for reading this far. I will be shouting from the rooftops as well as the Net if I finally come up with a solution. Take care, Larry On 2/28/2020 12:50 PM, David via Talk wrote: As for trouble with the Registry, CCleaner might be of some help. You find it at ccleaner.com The Home Standard version, is free of charge. Basically, long as you do not change the factory settings, it might be safe enough to run. But you might want to go through the settings, to make sure it does what you want, and nothing more. In the Main menu, choose Options, then Settings. Work your way through the tabs, and it will at least give you an idea what kind of issues the cleaner will care for. Note that a cleaner will not repair anything. It will remove things that seem to be outdated or left-overs, even broken. In other words, if your MP3's do not play, the cleaner might not fix that in itself. But it might remove a broken connection between your file type and the player. This will leave the MP3 connection open so to speak, and you then will be able to reconnect it with your chosen player. Broken connections, or associations, may cause trouble to many things on your computer, since they serve as a road map for the computer to know where to take given info, and what to do about it. Such broken stuff might come from uninstalling, updating or otherwise changing software on your PC. They can even arise as a consequence of a power failure, a failed or cancelled operation, a forced shut down of the system, or any untold reasons. Another software that I have been benefitting from, and which takes care of different issues, is SpyBot Search and Destroy. One place to get that one from, is: ninite.com SpyBot is an Anti-Spyware. But due to the fact that spyware includes a number of techniques, and some of them meddle with many things on your computer, a side-effect of SpyBot is that it might happen to clean out things that solves technical issues. Again, the benefit of such, is that it leaves you with a more clean PC, and makes it easier for you to troubleshoot. Leaving factory settings usually is the best way, but it leaves you certain control over its activity. Both the above cleaners do work with WinEyes. They are, as most modern software, quite mouse entensive. As a note, I just tested them this morning when cleaning up my system, with Jaws 18 and likewise NVDA. Clearly, WinEyes offered you the best control. Even in CCleaner's latest version, NVDA worked only so well, and Jaws failed altogether. WinEyes got the job done. Funny how different screen readers work, and how the old approach sometimes is the better go. All of this, only for your information. David On 2/26/2020 9:40 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > Hey Rod, that's OK, we all have days like that. I just decided to go > for it, because since other extensions were being likewise effected, I > just deduced that it must definitely be a registry issue. Certainly a > chance worth taking, especially since I didn't figure it could do any > real damage considering that I hadn't installed anything else over the > past week. > > > I did uninstall and reinstall Winamp, but to no avail. I started to > realize that the registry might be an issue when I tried to change the > preference through the default app extensions option, and found that > there was nothing for .mp3 without that Winamp URL Command Handler > thing. > > >
Re: A big problem with Winamp, help please!
Think we are a few, who lament the discontinuation of WinEyes. The very fact that a number of people still prefers using it for their activities, tells its own story. And though both NVDA and Jaws might do a better job in many a case, I still find that WinEyes does what I have come to enjoy. Even - as shown recently - in certain cases WinEyes is the only one that can get you out of a tricky situation. Whoever heard of a carpenter only bringing his hammer, thinking that it can both cut the wood, and screw the pieces together. Check the net, and see how many different tools are available for each tiny job on your computer. And tell you, if you check for an app for your mobile device, you usually end up with a list that easily numbers into the hundreds. Little wonder then, that the blind person needs more than one screen reader. Smiles. All of that said, glad to hear you got your issue sorted out this far. Let's just hope it will stay that way. No matter what cleaner, or other action you take, sometimes things just gets so messed up - that a clean install of a given software might be the way to go. If you decide to familiarize with a cleaner, you might want to include it in your reinstallation routine. I know this can seem to be yet another hassle, but might be worth considering. Uninstall your software; Run a thorough clean-up, even with the Anti-malware of your choice; Reinstall the software again. Though nothing could be guaranteed, it at least gives you the chance of a real clean installation. Shocking how much traces certain pieces of software could leave behind. Sometimes due to poor construction on the software itself and its uninstallation routines. But just as much due to the fact that many an entry in the Registry and generation of files and folders, is being done on the fly, through runtime. In such cases, the uninstaller might not even know where to go so as to delete the traces. Even WinEyes could not fully be uninstalled by means of Windows itself. On the distribution disc from GW, you would find what was known as the Emergency Remover. This because the Windows Operativ System would leave out some traces from deletion. The emergency remover was far more agressive, even to the extent that it would find your backup, if you did not hide it rather deeply. I do notice this even need for a taylored uninstaller, even for other pieces of software. If your screen reader is playing up on you, make sure the right .set file is loaded for the software you are attempting to use. Two different approaches, sometimes the one works better than the other, so again bring your complete toolbox. Smile. 1. Start your software, like Internet Explorer. 2. Open the WinEyes Control Panel, by Ctrl-Backslash. If you have turned on Advanced mode in the Help menu, your title bar of the control panel should tell you which set file is currently active, and which association has been given between the set file and the running application. 3. As an alternative to the control panel, you could simply hit Insert-L, directly from within the application you are using. You now will get a dialog for choosing what set file to load. If there is any set file associated with your application, you will see it already suggested in the edit box. If so, simply press either Escape or Enter, to return to your application. If not, use your Tab-key to get to the list of available files, and make your choice. And of course, there is one extra chance of not having to reinstall your very screen reader. Long as you have a backup of your profile folder, you can simply copy it into your system, restart your screen reader, and things will be right back to the point where you backed up last time. Once you are satisfied with your screen readers performance, make sure to back up the profile. If you want to play safe, keep two backups. That means, every time you backup your profile, let the old backup become your spare-backup. Process then would be: 1. Delete your spare backup. 2. Rename or move your backup to the spare position. 3. backup your working profile. By doing this, you will have the chance of rolling not one, but two steps back in time. thereby giving yourself yet another breathing room. Just a few ideas for consideration. David On 3/2/2020 5:08 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > David, > > > Thanks much for the URL for the cleaner. Although I have managed to > solve my Winamp issue with a system restore, I am having an issue with > Window-Eyes which renders browse mode a bit unstable, and can't figure > out why I am the only one using Windows 10 who seems to be having a > problem using WE. > > > My reasons for using an end of life product like Window-Eyes are > plenty, not the least of which is not wanting to even consider > purchasing JAWS, due to both, the money involved, and their cut throat > ways, and the way they went after Window-Eyes in what I suspect was a >
Re: A big problem with Winamp, help please!
David, Thanks much for the URL for the cleaner. Although I have managed to solve my Winamp issue with a system restore, I am having an issue with Window-Eyes which renders browse mode a bit unstable, and can't figure out why I am the only one using Windows 10 who seems to be having a problem using WE. My reasons for using an end of life product like Window-Eyes are plenty, not the least of which is not wanting to even consider purchasing JAWS, due to both, the money involved, and their cut throat ways, and the way they went after Window-Eyes in what I suspect was a rather underhanded manner. But then again, that is just personal opinion and suspicion. Maybe the guys at GWMicro could have played things a little smarter, but the loss of both the product and such a good company with such fine staff was IMHO a travesty. Sorry, really didn't mean to digress in such a manner, but there are just some things for which I find WE quite Necessary, especially as they relate to Reading my books from Bookshare. It looks like IE11 is the only handy way I can find to read them, and WE and their browse mode in their present condition on my system leave much to be desired. But, who knows, maybe RegClean may play an important part in clearing things up. Thanks for reading this far. I will be shouting from the rooftops as well as the Net if I finally come up with a solution. Take care, Larry On 2/28/2020 12:50 PM, David via Talk wrote: As for trouble with the Registry, CCleaner might be of some help. You find it at ccleaner.com The Home Standard version, is free of charge. Basically, long as you do not change the factory settings, it might be safe enough to run. But you might want to go through the settings, to make sure it does what you want, and nothing more. In the Main menu, choose Options, then Settings. Work your way through the tabs, and it will at least give you an idea what kind of issues the cleaner will care for. Note that a cleaner will not repair anything. It will remove things that seem to be outdated or left-overs, even broken. In other words, if your MP3's do not play, the cleaner might not fix that in itself. But it might remove a broken connection between your file type and the player. This will leave the MP3 connection open so to speak, and you then will be able to reconnect it with your chosen player. Broken connections, or associations, may cause trouble to many things on your computer, since they serve as a road map for the computer to know where to take given info, and what to do about it. Such broken stuff might come from uninstalling, updating or otherwise changing software on your PC. They can even arise as a consequence of a power failure, a failed or cancelled operation, a forced shut down of the system, or any untold reasons. Another software that I have been benefitting from, and which takes care of different issues, is SpyBot Search and Destroy. One place to get that one from, is: ninite.com SpyBot is an Anti-Spyware. But due to the fact that spyware includes a number of techniques, and some of them meddle with many things on your computer, a side-effect of SpyBot is that it might happen to clean out things that solves technical issues. Again, the benefit of such, is that it leaves you with a more clean PC, and makes it easier for you to troubleshoot. Leaving factory settings usually is the best way, but it leaves you certain control over its activity. Both the above cleaners do work with WinEyes. They are, as most modern software, quite mouse entensive. As a note, I just tested them this morning when cleaning up my system, with Jaws 18 and likewise NVDA. Clearly, WinEyes offered you the best control. Even in CCleaner's latest version, NVDA worked only so well, and Jaws failed altogether. WinEyes got the job done. Funny how different screen readers work, and how the old approach sometimes is the better go. All of this, only for your information. David On 2/26/2020 9:40 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Hey Rod, that's OK, we all have days like that. I just decided to go for it, because since other extensions were being likewise effected, I just deduced that it must definitely be a registry issue. Certainly a chance worth taking, especially since I didn't figure it could do any real damage considering that I hadn't installed anything else over the past week. I did uninstall and reinstall Winamp, but to no avail. I started to realize that the registry might be an issue when I tried to change the preference through the default app extensions option, and found that there was nothing for .mp3 without that Winamp URL Command Handler thing. I did download your copy of the last version of Winamp . I've forgotten, but that might be the version I am already running. Hmm, no it isn't mine is in the 5 range. I'll have to fix that right away. When it comes to WE, I think we might should discuss that in private. If you can help me res
Re: Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes)
Hello David, Thanks so much for your suggestions. I will try to answer your questions as best I can First of all, about my system. No, I have never reinstalled Windows since it was set up more than a year ago. The only programs I have uninstalled of any significance were my Collins dictionary and my Word Web dictionary. I am the only person using this computer and to my knowledge I have never clicked on any offers of new programs. I use the network icon on the desktop as an example but, surprisingly, I haven't heard the word "Network" being repeated. I just chose the word out of the blue as an example. The repeated words could be part of the message or word file I am typing, or it could be words at the top or bottom of the screen if my mouse is in that position. I always disconnect the LAN cable from my computer whenever I go off line. My Desktop computer doesn't have a wireless connection. However, you might have a point about something trying to update. Java has been trying to get me to update but I recently abandoned the update halfway because I didn't quite understand what it was requiring me to do. I do diskclean at least once a day but I haven't used my C Cleaner for some time so I think I had better try that. I always avoid scheduling anything like antivirus or defragging programs, preferring to do these tasks manually when I have the time. In Windows 8, they don't use the word "Defrag" but "Optimize". I optimize my drives once inn a while even though I am told by Windows that my drives do not need optimizing. My antivirus program is the Windows Defender provided by Microsoft. I don't consider it a very effective antivirus program so I am ver wary about visiting strange websites. My computer technician did put on AVG for me but I told him to uninstall it as AVG has become rather inaccessible. I don't think he did a very good job of it as I still find traces of the program on my computer and that could be another source of my troubles. On the other hand, why should it only cause trouble recently? Just for your info, since I reported this strange behaviour, my mouse has been behaving properly, and the unwanted repetitions have stopped. Thanks again and I am definitely going to clean up my computer with C Cleaner tomorrow as I have to go out this evening. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:43 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes) Well, Peter, This really sounds like a nut. If something like you describe is repeated over and over, like: Desktop, Network, Desktop, Network; I am almost ready to think this is due to some background service attempting to start, and likely not being able to perform what it wants. That could be, some sort of update, an unstabil network connection, Things like a disk Clean-up or Defragmentation, Scheduled scanning jobs from your Anti-Virus; or whatever else. Seemingly, the software is trying to do its job, fails, and pops back to the Desktop - determines that it wants to try again, also this time failing, and returning to the desktop. The screen reader is doing its job, in picking up that something is going on, and reading out to you what it can manage, before next operation is plunging in. Since this retrying is rapidly going on, the screen reader might not have time to read out all the dialogs, and you only hear the window titles spoken. GW were asked several years ago, if a user-activated delaying filter could be implemented, that would leave the screen reader time enough to recognize and speak out dialogs like this, or even determine to skip them altogether. Their reply in short, was that they did not see it as anything useful. Another screen reader which I used before WinEyes, did have such capability, which I found useful many a time. And NVDA seems to be slow enough, or perhaps more like agressive enough, to pick up all the info and take its time to read it aloud. Now for a moment, let's imagine my assumption is right. When the software has kept attempting a preset number of times, it pops an error message on you. That message is not visible to WinEyes, like we have talked about earlier. This invisible window is trapping your mouse; and you, are pulling your hair. Yes, a wild guess, but not totally out of the blue either. Again, I suggest trying an alternative screen reader for a little. This might just prove helpful, as another screen reader might pick up what is going on, and read out some info that will point you to the real nest of your trouble. Try install NVDA. Restart your computer, and when it is all ready, turn off WinEyes. For instance by hitting Ctrl-Insert-F4, and then Enter on the OK button. Then Start NVDA, by default Alt-Ctrl-N. Work on your computer as normal, writing some stuff, checking your email, browsing some familiar website, or whatever you typically are doing on your computer. Try do s
Re: test again
Hey Tom, thanks for that. I was having a bit of a problem with Thunderbird never adding this list to the address book. Every time I would type anything into the too field having to do with the Window-Eyes list, I would get the address of a list subscriber, making it necessary to delete that name in order to post. I really didn't want to take the chance on that subscriber getting my every post in his inbox. Not that would be that many, but I'm sure it might become an annoyance. Have a good evening, Larry On 3/1/2020 7:04 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Both came through. Hth, Tom On 3/1/2020 7:14 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Maybe we will get it right this time. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: test again
Both came through. Hth, Tom On 3/1/2020 7:14 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Maybe we will get it right this time. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
test again
Maybe we will get it right this time. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
test
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Re: Command for new folder creation
Windows 10 uses a ribbon in File Explorer. One of the side effects of this is that you get some alt-number shortcuts. You can change their definitions, but they come with a few. And they are not very consistent among programs, and I think not even consistent within parts of some large programs. So I tend not to use them. By default, ctrl-shift-N is the Window-Eyes hotkey for reading a field name. So unless you have remapped this key, you might need to press the bypass keystroke first. To check your current Window-Eyes hotkey mappings, you can use Insert-1. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 4:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Command for new folder creation OK, so is this a new feature of Win10? If I understood the initial message right, sitting Windows Explorer, you should be able to press Alt-2, and get the creation of a new folder. I tried with my Win7 system, just for the fun of it. Went to Windows Explorer, hit Alt-2, and a little later Google Chrome opened. I thought that was strange enough, but decided to explore what would happen if I pressed Alt-3. Guess what, Google Chrome came up once again. I now decided to test the alternativ that was mentioned, Ctrl-Shif-N, in my Windows Explorer. To disappoint any Win7 users, it generated no action at all. I know, this was a Win10 question, and hope not to put anyone off track. Just thought how strange it is, that not only does it seem to be different from one system to the other, but even might generate different results from one Operativ System to the next one. Yet another challenge, when developers are not too consistent with their hotkeys. Particularly as menu and ribbon navigation increasingly becomes more of a job. David On 3/1/2020 8:45 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: And while we're at it, I'm running 1903 and both commands work. Go figure. I'm not aware of a way to edit these types of commands, but you may be able to find it with a little help from Google. Good luck, Tom On 2/29/2020 11:28 PM, Carol Smith via Talk wrote: Hi Donald, I never knew about the alt-2 command. I am currently running version 1903 and this command does work. The shift-control-n command does nothing on my computer. I find this a bit funny that we both are running 10 but have to use different commmands to do the same task. Carol On 2/29/2020 11:59 AM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I’m running W E 9.5.4.0 on a Windows 10 desktop; operating system windows 1809, a recent version. I realize that 1909 is the latest, but I am in no hurry to upgrade. When I first installed the earliest version of Windows 10, the command to create a new folder was alt 2. For the past several months, I can no longer use Alt 2 to create a new folder. Instead, shift control N will create a new folder. This is true regardless of whether I am using Window-eyes or Jaws 18. I have never knowingly installed a key remapper on this or any system, so I have no idea whatsoever as to why I can no longer use alt 2. Could any lister explain why this might have happened and also how I can get alt 2 back as the appropriate command for folder creation. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/opt
Re: Command for new folder creation
OK, so is this a new feature of Win10? If I understood the initial message right, sitting Windows Explorer, you should be able to press Alt-2, and get the creation of a new folder. I tried with my Win7 system, just for the fun of it. Went to Windows Explorer, hit Alt-2, and a little later Google Chrome opened. I thought that was strange enough, but decided to explore what would happen if I pressed Alt-3. Guess what, Google Chrome came up once again. I now decided to test the alternativ that was mentioned, Ctrl-Shif-N, in my Windows Explorer. To disappoint any Win7 users, it generated no action at all. I know, this was a Win10 question, and hope not to put anyone off track. Just thought how strange it is, that not only does it seem to be different from one system to the other, but even might generate different results from one Operativ System to the next one. Yet another challenge, when developers are not too consistent with their hotkeys. Particularly as menu and ribbon navigation increasingly becomes more of a job. David On 3/1/2020 8:45 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > And while we're at it, I'm running 1903 and both commands work. Go > figure. > I'm not aware of a way to edit these types of commands, but you may be > able to find it with a little help from Google. > Good luck, > Tom > > > On 2/29/2020 11:28 PM, Carol Smith via Talk wrote: >> Hi Donald, >> >> I never knew about the alt-2 command. I am currently running version >> 1903 and this command does work. The shift-control-n command does >> nothing on my computer. I find this a bit funny that we both are >> running 10 but have to use different commmands to do the same task. >> >> Carol >> On 2/29/2020 11:59 AM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: >>> I’m running W E 9.5.4.0 on a Windows 10 desktop; operating system >>> windows 1809, a recent version. I realize that 1909 is the latest, >>> but I am in no hurry to upgrade. >>> >>> When I first installed the earliest version of Windows 10, the >>> command to create a new folder was alt 2. For the past several >>> months, I can no longer use Alt 2 to create a new folder. Instead, >>> shift control N will create a new folder. This is true regardless of >>> whether I am using Window-eyes or Jaws 18. I have never knowingly >>> installed a key remapper on this or any system, so I have no idea >>> whatsoever as to why I can no longer use alt 2. Could any lister >>> explain why this might have happened and also how I can get alt 2 >>> back as the appropriate command for folder creation. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Don Roberts >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
