Re: Synthesizer or Speech Card Behavior on Asus Zenbook

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Whoever you spoke to isn't right at all, unless it's not available with the 
generic sound card drivers. The "disable all enhancements" checkbox is still 
there in Windows 10.
> On 6 Aug 2015, at 23:31, Richard Petty via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I understand disabling speech enhancements should solve this. I spoke to
> Microsoft's accessibility line this afternoon. The person I spoke to said
> the "Disable all enhancements" option is no longer available in Windows 10.
> He did escalate my issue, so I may know more in the next four or five days.
> 
> It would be interesting to know if anyone does find the disable enhancements
> option in Windows 10.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Petty [mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:59 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Marc Solomon'; 'Christopher-Mark
> Gilland'; 'William Vandervest'
> Subject: Synthesizer or Speech Card Behavior on Asus Zenbook
> 
> I've just purchased a Asus Zenbook notebook, installed Windows 10 and WE
> 9.2.
> 
> In all menus and all programs, words are voiced indistinctly. Almost always
> the first letter is either not spoken or spoken at a lower volume level with
> a small pop sound. If this can't be changed, it will be hard to work with.
> 
> Has anyone had this experience and have you found a workaround? I'll
> appreciate any help on this that's available.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Clower [mailto:sclo...@aisquared.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 7:55 AM
> To: richard.pe...@earthlink.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Marc Solomon;
> 'Christopher-Mark Gilland'; 'William Vandervest'
> Subject: RE: win 10 start menu
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Aside from the change to the Start menu itself, everything else, including
> navigating the task bar and desktop are exactly the same as in Windows 7 and
> 8, including the ability to use first-letter navigation.
> 
> Steve
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Richard Petty via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 8:44 AM
> To: Marc Solomon ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> ; 'Christopher-Mark Gilland'
> ; 'William Vandervest' 
> Subject: RE: win 10 start menu
> 
> Is there no longer a task bar where first letter navigation can be used?
> 
> Is it possible to use first letter navigation in the user-created desktops?
> 
> Is first letter navigation possible anywhere in Windows 10?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List; William
> Vandervest
> Subject: RE: win 10 start menu
> 
> Hi Chris,
> I would recommend you check out the Windows 10 audio tutorial we recorded as
> it contains an overview of the new Start menu. Here is the direct link:
> http://getwindoweyes.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/tutorial_
> sections/10-Windows%2010.mp3.
> Thanks,
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:53 AM
> To: William Vandervest ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: win 10 start menu
> 
> I've actually heard that the W10 start menu is quite different in some
> respects, so yeah, if someone could describe how to navigate it, that would
> be very! very very appreciated!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "William Vandervest via Talk" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:40 AM
> Subject: win 10 start menu
> 
> 
>> running we9.2 on win 10 pro desktop with 32 bit cpu and my start menu only
> 
>> says cortana when I open it, and tabing says nothing at all, but narater 
>> and nvda both work just fine on the start menu
>> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See
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Re: Making a backup

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Casper can apparently do this, but you still got to go into the BIOS and change 
the boot order or go into a boot menu at startup, both of which requires 
sighted assistance. On the Mac, there is no BIOS, but there is a boot menu on 
every single Mac. Just press and hold the option key after the startup chime.
> On 7 Aug 2015, at 11:56, Martin Brown via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> There has been a lot of talk on the list recently about upgrading to Windows
> 10. Some subscribers advocate, and rightly so, to make a backup of all files
> and folders. The process of doing that is relatively easy. However, making a
> backup of your entire C drive, which would include all files, folders and
> programmes, on that drive is quite another matter using the Windows
> operating system. I can achieve this easily using the Mac operating system.
> Indeed, I can make a backup on an external drive which, should anything
> happen to the internal drive on my Mac, I can boot easily from the external
> drive.
> Perhaps there is an easy way to do the same thing using the Windows
> operating system which is accessible using a screen reader. If there is, I
> would love to know how to go about it. Of course, making such a backup would
> be useful regardless of upgrading or not.
> Unfortunately, Microsoft has a long way to go when it comes to
> accessibility. And yes, I fully understand that we are a small community in
> the grand scheme of things. Nevertheless, the same thing applies when it
> comes to Apple, but they really have done a lot to make their products
> accessible to all those with differing needs.
> Well done Apple, and shame on Microsoft for doing the bare minimum.
> M Brown   
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Re: reverting to previous windows

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi you can only go back to your previous version within 30 days unless you have 
it as a system image. The other resets will work perpetually.
> On 8 Aug 2015, at 15:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how long we'll have to do this.  Is it basically a 30 day grace 
> period? Or, are there actually any limitations?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Don H via Talk" 
> 
> To: "William Vandervest" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: reverting to previous windows
> 
> 
>> open the start menu and search for the word reset and it should pop up. I 
>> did it twice and it worked well.  What issues are you having with Windows 10?
>> 
>> On 8/8/2015 9:00 AM, William Vandervest via Talk wrote:
>>> can anybody tell me the process for reverting windows 10 back to windows
>>> 7 using win-eyes 9.2?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: windows 10

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Sorry to be the barer of bad news, but unless this has changed, the Window-Eyes 
demo does not give you an opportunity to activate the product. It is a demo 
copy which runs as a 60-day evaluation before it reverts to a 
30-minute-and-reboot demo.
> On 16 Aug 2015, at 18:30, Gregory Rosenberg via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bud,
> 
> I think I found my workaround. I am downloading the Window Eyes 9.2.0.0 demo. 
> I think once that is installed I will be able to activate it with my key.
> You can download the full version (not an upgrade) at: 
> http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Demo/index.php 
> .
> 
> 
>> On 2015Aug 16, at 12:22, Gregory Rosenberg via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bud,
>> 
>> FYI, you need to have 9.2 installed on Windows 7 before you upgrade to 10. I 
>> installed 10 from scratch and am caught in a catch 22. The 9,2 upgrade 
>> assumes you are starting from Windows 7 and have 8.x or newer already 
>> installed. If you upgrade to 10 and try to install 9.1 you are told it 
>> doesn’t run on Windows 10. And if you try to install the 9.2 update on 10 it 
>> says it requires WindowEyes to be installed on the machine before you can 
>> apply the update.
>> 
>> 
>> GW Micro has a two part Windows 10 Upgrade tutorial located at: 
>> http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1 (MP4 with 
>> CC) 
>> 
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1 (MP3) 
>> 
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1 (PDF) 
>> 
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1 (TXT) 
>> 
>> 
>> Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2 (MP4 with 
>> CC) 
>> 
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2 (MP3) 
>> 
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2 (PDF) 
>> 
>> 
>> Download Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2 (TXT) 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://getwindoweyes.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/tutorial_sections/10-Windows%2010.mp3
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2015Aug 16, at 12:12, Bud Schwab via Talk  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gang,
>>> I just got a new Dell with windows 10 and am trying to  learn a few things 
>>> agbout it.  It's a llot more different than I thought it would be from 
>>> windows 7. One thing I want to know, are there any tutorials or an;ything 
>>> like that for windows 10 and windoweyes? That could sure help me get 
>>> started  One of many immediate questions is, is there any setting so I 
>>> don't have to sign in every time?
>>> Thanks so much for any help for this poor babe in the woods.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bud Schwab
>>> W 6 Z Y P
>>> Malibu, California
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Re: Social-Eyes

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Last time I knew SocialEyes grin it was only a Facebook client and still is. No 
Twitter or anything. Price as of today I would contact Gw Micro for accurate 
pricing.
> On 17 Aug 2015, at 18:27, Wendy Alling via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> Can someone give me information on Social-Eyes which is used for face book?
> Can you also use twitter with it, and what is the price?
> Thanks,
> Wendy
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Re: confirm 9318119c34587b6b053db7594c5995328f840711

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi well it's Mailman and I know this from first hand experience as had exactly 
the same issues when I ran lists on Mailman.
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Re: Pockey menu, what is it?

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi it is also on Acer laptops at least the one I have.
> On 24 Aug 2015, at 22:03, Bill Belew via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe that Pockey menu is software added to Toshiba computers.  That
> only based on encountering it on a couple of Toshiba laptops.  
> 
> Bill
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bill=mind@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:16 AM
> To: Donald L. Roberts; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Pockey menu, what is it?
> 
> No idea but you could always google something that you don't recognize. 
> Hopefully it isn't malware.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Donald L. Roberts via Talk" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:11 PM
> Subject: Pockey menu, what is it?
> 
> 
> The subject says it.  I saw this in 8.1 but didn't see it when I
> upgraded to Windows 10.  However, after an update on Friday, now this
> pockey menu is on the task bar.  So just what is it and why is it on the
> task bar?
> 
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Re: Persistant Windows 10 offer

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Sorry for the plug, but just to let you know, if you don't upgrade to Windows 
10 before July of next year, you will have to pay for it. Might as well get it 
for nothing then while it's on offer me thinks. Again sorry for the plug and am 
sure you have good intentions not to upgrade. But I am one of those who 
believes in "the more, the merrier" i.e. the more who knows about this offer, 
the more people will upgrade.
> On 7 Dec 2015, at 23:23, M Dorn via Talk  wrote:
> 
> I have started getting a message to upgrade to Windows 10, which I do not 
> intend to do.  There's nothing in it to say "don't ask me anymore."  Even 
> after closing it, it pops up again and again.  It also seems to make the 
> computer unrsponsive when the Win 10 message is open.
> 
> Any suggestions as to how to get rid of this annoyance?
> 
> Thanks!
> Marilyn
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Re: WE on a Microsoft Surface

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

If it's anything like the days of netbooks, it would probably run ok for 
messing about on, but not fast enough for day to day, more important tasks.
> On 18 Dec 2015, at 16:47, Don H via Talk  wrote:
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> Anyone running WE on a Microsoft Surface tablet with a Atom processor? 
> Looking at one that has the Atom processor 4 Gig of RAM and 128GB of storage 
> running Windows 8.1.
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Re: re wondering if you could use the tocr function for solving captias

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi no it can't and probably never will. Captchas fool OCR programs, 
deliberately, otherwise bots who use such programs could very easily bypass 
these.
> On 25 Dec 2015, at 06:15, Gary Melconian via Talk 
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> Hello I was wondering if the OCR functionality could bbe used on a web page 
> for solving captias. I could se this be a good way to solve captias that  
> some of these sites put up in order to accomplish a particular task. If this 
> has not been considered could it be looked at for future improvements to the 
> OCR functionality  which would help all of us with these silly captias.
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Re: AMAZON MUSIC PLAYER

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

I use iTunes to buy music.
> On 28 Dec 2015, at 20:43, Stephen Thacker via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I've recently downloaded the Amazon Music Player on my Windows 10 64 bit 
> pc usiq the latest WE9.3.1 but node of the buttons are labeled and I've no 
> idea how to use it, anyone help please?
> 
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Re: question abut laptops.

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Oh no! I hope my half brothers' laptops didn't come with any spyware. They 
received these for Christmas. They both have a Lenovo. Ar well, too bad if they 
have I guess.
> On 3 Jan 2016, at 03:11, net bat via Talk  wrote:
> 
> i wouldn't buy any  lenovo product. they have been selling computers and 
> cellphones with spyware on them.
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/now-three-pre-installed-malwares-lenovo-laptops/
> 
> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1748900-spy-software-found-pre-installed-on-lenovo-huawei-and-xiaomi-smartphones/
> 
> 
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/now-three-pre-installed-malwares-lenovo-laptops/ 
> product.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: michael's emails via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: window eyes help list
> Subject: question abut laptops.
> 
> Hi guys is anyone running a lenovo laptop if so are they not a bad machine.
> I am thinking about a intel quad core i7 model.
> Does anyone think a quad core is faster then a dual core with hyper threading.
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Re: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Untrue. I mostly use the official iOS and Android apps which are quite 
accessible. But I also use
m.facebook.com
which again is quite accessible. Since I have a Mac, there are third party apps 
that interface with Facebook. Current, a paid app, is one of them and I use it. 
Again this is quite accessible.


> On 26 Jan 2016, at 13:02, Helen Murphy via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> face book is not blind friendly ive heard a lot of people say that. I'm a 
> partial sighted person legally blind and it took a very, very long time to 
> master it. helen murphy
> 
> On Tue, 1/26/16, Matthew Chao via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience
> To: grimwoodpi...@btinternet.com, "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
> 
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 7:32 AM
> 
> Hi, Robert.  Yes. 
> It's much better than conventional Facebook, though
> it has some shortcomings.  If only Facebook
> were easier overall. 
> Thanks.--Matthew
> Chao
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Matthew Chao 
> 
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:25:00
> +
> Robert Grimwood via Talk 
> wrote:
> 
>>  
> Dear Matthew,
>> 
>> 
> have you tried m.facebook.com on your computer? For some
> reason it seems to be more easily accessible, although it is
> not perfect.
>> 
>> 
> Cheerio,
>> Robert
>> 
> 
>> On 1/26/2016 5:52 AM, Bryan Peterson
> via Talk wrote:
>>> I can definitely
> agree with that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Focus your powers and prepare for
> buttle.
>>> -Original Message-
> From: Jed Barton via Talk
>>> Sent:
> Monday, January 25, 2016 9:25 PM
>>> 
> To: Smith, Veronica ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Navigating Facebook, a
> Frustrating Experience
>>> 
>>> i won't use anything but fb
> mobile, it's super easy.  No need to get
>>> frustrated with the regular sight
>>> 
>>> On
> 1/25/2016 4:04 PM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:
 Sign into FB Mobile.  It is so
> easy, you'll wonder why you didn't go >> there
> first.
 
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>> 
>>> From: Talk >>
> [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On >> Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016
> 9:08 AM
 To: Window-Eyes
> Discussion List
 Subject:
> Navigating Facebook, a Frustrating Experience
 
 Hi,
> Folks.  Have been up on Facebook trying to take care of
> things. Am
 having trouble
> reading the messages I want to read and sending out new
 ones.  Also, tough finding
> recent messages.  Is there an easy way to
 navigate this Web Site?  I find
> it extremely frustrating and a great
>> 
>>> consumer of wasted time.  Any help would be
> appreciated.  Thanks in
 
> advance.--Matthew Chao
 
 P.S.  the alt-number keys
> don't seem to work.
 
 
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Re: Password Managers

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

I didn't know this was an issue till now. Recently, I began syncing my vaults 
through iCloud since the Mac version downloaded and or purchased from the 
Agilebits Webstore now supports iCloud Syncing. The version from the Mac App 
Store always had this capability. So can't help.
> On 6 Feb 2016, at 03:35, Tom Fairhurst via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I can’t remember if it was this list or not, but someone suggested 1Password  
> when I asked about a password manager that might work well between a PC and 
> other devices. It seems quite promising and does have an IOS app as well as a 
> PC app. However, I can’t import my current CSV file into the PC program. I 
> can’t select columns and the OK button is disabled. Any suggestions would be 
> appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: WE doesn't my copy of office and a program to chat on facebook

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi oh wow this looks good. Works fine here on my Mac.
> On 9 Feb 2016, at 21:56, Marc Solomon via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Another option to consider is www.messenger.com. This is Facebook's Messenger 
> web application. 
> Regards,
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:49 PM
> To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: WE doesn't my copy of office and a program to chat on facebook
> 
> Facebook has stopped all external chat services. So there is nolonger a 
> possibility to use chat clients like instantbird or miranda. The only not 
> that convenient way to chat is via m.facebook.com or use other platforms 
> like ios or android.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
> From: Chris Grabowski via Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 1:51 PM
> To: Simon Cavendish ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: WE doesn't my copy of office and a program to chat on facebook
> 
> Also if this is the office version, make sure you are using Microsoft speech 
> platform or eSpeak as the synthesizers.
> 
> You can also  use SAPI.
> 
> If you are using Eloquence or Vocalizer Expressive and have not purchased 
> them Window-eyes will be a demo.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Window-Eyes Product Support
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Simon Cavendish via Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 3:05 AM
> To: Rafa ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: WE doesn't my copy of office and a program to chat on facebook
> 
> Hello Rafa,
> 
> Indeed, as it was said by somebody else here, in WE, under diagnostics, 
> there's an item for Office and if you expand the submenu, there should be an 
> item that says something about your office license...  Run it, and it should 
> help recognise the valid Office installation.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Simon
>> On 7 Feb 2016, at 11:52, Rafa via Talk  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear listers,
>> Yesterday I activated my version of office via Internet in windows 10 by 
>> using the aplication that my HP computer has for this purpose and the 
>> office package was downloaded and installed from Internet. When I 
>> downloaded and installed WE 9.3 in English, although I'm from Spain and as 
>> far as I know the latest Spanish version is 8.4 that doesn't work with 
>> windows 10, it doesn't recognize my activation of office, please, can 
>> anybody tell me what I can do to make WE find this activation?, because 
>> when I launch the program the microsoft web site to sign in appears and 
>> when I do that introducing my email acount and password correctly nothing 
>> happens and We says time and again that my demo is about to expire.
>> Apart from that, I'd like to know if there is a program to chat on 
>> facebook, because Miranda NG doesn't work yet and and thunderbird either 
>> and I don't know how to use the mobile site to chat with contacts.
>> Thanks in advance and sorry for such a long mail.
>> Take care.
>> Rafa.
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Re: Dan is retiring

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi I am sorry to see you retire but in another way congratulations and hope you 
have many happy years. We all appreciate what you have done for Gw Micro, now 
Ai Squared, and for the others, please keep it up. Thank you for everything, 
and take care.
> On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:39, Dan Weirich via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I am retiring.
> 
> My career in the Assistive Technology industry started in the late 80's, 
> working for Computer Aids Corp. for a couple years, where I met Doug 
> Geoffray.  Then I partnered with Doug to launch GW Micro in 1990 which 
> operated for 24 years, followed by our merging into Ai Squared in 2014.  So 
> now, after almost 28 years in the AT industry, it's time for me to take a 
> break.  I will be retired from Ai Squared after this week.  No worries - the 
> rest of the Fort Wayne office and staff will continue as normal - whatever 
> normal means .
> 
> I'm not very active on this list but I look at many of the posts and I know 
> many of your names even if we rarely talk on the phone or meet in person.  I 
> will continue to support Ai Squared and if the opportunity presents itself 
> who knows - I might come back for a few special projects from time to time.  
> Thank you very much for your support and friendship.
> 
> One thing I understand - this industry is very different from all others.  
> The people I know not only want to stay active, employed or stay in business 
> but they also want to make the world a better place by providing quality 
> products and services.  You should all be proud of whatever contribution you 
> personally make.
> 
> Thank you all again for your friendship and loyalty over the many years.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Dan
> 
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> VP of Strategic Programs
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> www.gwmicro.com
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Re: Web application with facebook question

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

It's there for everyone. Facebook recently introduced "reactions". I have them 
in the iOS app as well.
> On 26 Feb 2016, at 18:39, Loy via Talk  wrote:
> 
> When using Web Application mode on Facebook, in addition to the like button 
> WE announces Love, HaHa, Wow, Sad, and Anger buttons.Is this something that 
> the web app adds or is it there for everyone.
> "1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
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Re: Test

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hi it should work as I got this message.
> On 2 Apr 2016, at 19:49, Terry Chaney via Talk  
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> I am attempting to confirm that the list still works for me.
> Terry Chaney
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Re: what's up with the list?

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

This would be resolved if they changed providers altogether. They could change 
to groups.io for example. The web interface for both members and administrators 
is completely accessible, and the support is second to none and cares about 
making the service accessible to everyone.
> On 22 Apr 2016, at 01:12, Reeva Webb via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I've been deactivated from the list like 3 times in 2 weeks. Ai2 please fix
> the issue causing this. I'm using gmail and this ain't happening on any
> other  list i'm on.
> 
> Reeva
> 
> On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Trent Fogle via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
>> You know that's happened to me multiple times and Yesterday was one of
>> them.
>> This is getting annoying. Trent.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+trentfogle33 =
>> gmail@lists.window-eyes.com ] On Behalf
>> Of Rick Thomas via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:51 AM
>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: what's up with the list?
>> 
>> Hi: Same here but not so often.
>> I either go into the WindowEyes website and fix the problem as described in
>> their e-mail message or click it and respond to ReActivate the account.
>> This does not happen with any other lists I am on.
>> There can be several reasons it is happening but there is, as far as I
>> know,
>> not much you can do at your end to fix it.
>> Some have said that switching e-mail providers might help - don't know and
>> that would depend on the reason causing the bounces back to their servers
>> even if only messages.
>> Rick USA
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail =
>> mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com ] On
>> Behalf Of Jim via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 2:55 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>>> 
>> Subject: what's up with the list?
>> 
>> Hi there!
>> About once a week I receive a message stating that my membership in this
>> list is terminated due to excessive bounces.  I have been using the same
>> eMail for years and now am having to re-confirm my membership on a
>> fairly regular basis..?  Does anyone have any ideas on what might be
>> going on?  THANKS!.
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Re: regarding ETI elequence.

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hope you are not after a crack as well as you will not get it from us .
> On 5 May 2016, at 17:36, Ravi Paswan via Talk  
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> hello gang any one can provide me elequence sapi 5 for 64 bit windows.
> urgent need for me.
> 
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> -- 
> please joine me in skype:ravi.paswan32
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Mail on Windows 10

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Evening everyone.

Does the mail app on Windows 10 work with Window-Eyes because it does with 
narrator and NVDA.


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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

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Hmmm, I think it’s true actually according to those running the insider builds 
and even Microsoft documents improvements in their accessibility blog.
> On 14 May 2016, at 04:27, Bob Tinney via Talk  
> wrote:
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> Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it that 
> with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator is going 
> to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!
> 
> 
> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
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> On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
>> Dear List:
>> I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9 window-eyes disk 
>> is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use narrator untiol payday when I 
>> hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I can read menu items with the up and 
>> down arrows and read controls with the tab key with narrator, but that is 
>> all.  Does anyone know how to read through a web page with narrator?  
>> Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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Re: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The Results Will Surprise You!

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

I know and have used Window-Eyes when I was using a Windows computer, and it 
was good. When I do use a Windows computer, it is NVDA all the way. Trouble is, 
most institutions who cater for the blind and visually impaired have Windows 
computers with either JAWS or Supernova installed, nothing else.
> On 12 Aug 2016, at 22:25, CJ &AA MAY via Talk  
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> 
> It saddens me that there are so many people, especially here in the UK, who
> don't know about Window-eyes' existence.
> 
> I have used this screenreader right from the start, in fact when it was
> called Vocal-eyes and used to provide access to DOS - this must be providing
> some clues to my age!
> 
> But I've never regretted my choice. 
> 
> Alison
> 
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Re: test

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Passed
> On 9 Feb 2015, at 19:44, Jesse via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Just testing this new list.  Thanks guys.
> Jesse
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Re: speaking when it shouldn't be

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

The Pocky Menu app came with my recently purchased Windows 8.1 64 bit 
Acer laptop which Window-Eyes 9.0 has just been installed on. From the 
title it sounds like one of those classic start menu based apps. I just 
uninstalled it from Programs and Features as am quite used to the start 
screen.


On 10/02/2015 16:36, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote:

Hi Gang,

I have two questions and I don't think they are related.

1.  Every few minutes my computer just starts talking on it's own, maybe
reads a line of an email or some setting or just most anything. Just a
line or two and then quits for a few minutes before it does it again.

2.  Every once in a while it refers to "pocky menu,"  what is that?

Thanks for any enlightenment.


Bud Schwab
W 6 Z Y P
Malibu, California

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Re: Getting Eloquence

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Ditto. You're the only company that does not allow this as far as I 
know. Only company as in screen reader vendor.


On 05/03/2015 20:03, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:

Hi Marc.

Will AI Squared shift away from its policy of not allowing online purchases
from overseas customers?



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vdodd=xtra.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Friday, 6 March 2015 3:23 a.m.
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Getting Eloquence

Rick,
There is a step by step tutorial on the entire process of purchasing and
adding a new speech synthesizer here:
http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com/Voices/Tutorial/. There are video, audio
and text versions. I hope this helps Regards, Marc Solomon Ai Squared GW
Micro is now part of the Ai Squared family!


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On March 5, 2015 4:16:40 AM Rick Thomas via Talk
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Hi I just peeked at getting it online.

I added it to my cart and was told I needed to enter my serial number

before

clicking continue button.

Ok, it told me to look at the about item under the we help menu but it is
the general gwoffice code serial number.

as noted on some other page,  I think, I will need to do something else to
get a valid serial number prior to doing this I guess.

Do I click register under the help menu to get a valid serial number?

Or will, I think someone mentioned a few weeks ago, windoweyes send me one
sometime during the process after I enter, what in the serial number field
before clicking the continue button during the buy process online?

Or did I miss an entire step in the process.

Rick usa

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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Even better, get Chrome here
www.ninite.com/chrome
or check the Chrome check box on the main Ninite website and click get 
installer button. The last computer I had, Chrome could not work at all; it 
would simply crash. Hope it works on my new computer since I have Chrome on my 
mac and it's a good browser, especially if it has in-built flash.
> On 6 Mar 2015, at 17:18, Chris Grabowski via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
> 
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
> directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
> accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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Re: ThunderBird, a miner problem

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Press alt-v for view menu, b for message body as then p for plain text.
> On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:11, Jim via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Hi there Group!
> After updating my ThunderBirt the oter day, I keep receiving the following 
> msg, 'for your protection ThunderBird has block the content of this message'. 
>  I hope I got the text correct.  Is there anyway that I can turn off this 
> message? THANKS de
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Re: socialeyes

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

You subscribe to the service first. This is something like $39 a year or 
$25 for the first year then $39 a year after that can't remember. Once 
subscribed you are then sent an authorization file which will allow you 
to activate the subscription on up to five PCs. Yes, SocialEyes is an 
app but not in the same way as a Window-Eyes app.


On 17/03/2015 01:45, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:

went to apps list got socialeyes when I went to desktop and hit
socialeyes said must put in an authorization before you can run it,
where do you put in the authorization key? no spot.

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Re: accessing BIOS

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Correct unless you get a brand of machines by Toshiba! They include 
utilities to configure certain aspects of the computer such as the boot 
order!


On 24/03/2015 18:33, Don H via Talk wrote:

Am I correct in saying that there is no way to access and modify the
system BIOS without sighted help?
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Re: window eyes 9.1 demo problem

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

I thought the demo downloads do now come with a 60 day trial or timed 
evaluation version?


On 25/03/2015 00:32, Loy via Talk wrote:

No, demo is 30 minutes and then you have to reboot, no limit on how many
days. Not sure if there is a trial version of WE. Trial versions usually
run 30-60 days.
- Original Message - From: "Sky Mundell via Talk"

To: "'wally from michigan'" ; "'Window-Eyes
Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: window eyes 9.1 demo problem



Hello, actually the demo is supposed to be 60 days, not 30 minutes.
Btw, I
thought you had the free Microsoft office offer of Window-Eyes?

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of wally from michigan via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: window eyes 9.1 demo problem

I'm running a demo of window eyes 9.1 on a windows 7 64 bit
laptop.  I know that the demo is supposed to work as a thirty minute
demo.  It doesn't.  When i boot up my computer, it tells me that in less
than five minutes, window eyes will shut down.  How do i correct this?

On 3/24/2015 11:03 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

No large print version? :( unless it's in grade 1 Braille i can't
read it.

Reeva

On Tuesday, March 24, 2015, David R. Stayer via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


I would like the same David R. Stayer 2704 Beach Drive
Merrick, NY 11566. Thank You.

Each day is a precious gift David R. Stayer, LCSW-R

On 3/24/2015 7:00 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:


I would really welcome such a resource.  Thank you for making this

offer.

Please send me a copy. My address is:
]
Louis Gosselin
499 Silver St. Apt. 101
Manchester, NH  03103-5078

-Original Message-
From: Talk


[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com

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On Behalf Of Roger Behm AIS via Talk
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:47 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: free window-eyes tips of the day version 9 in braille!

   Hi Folks,

for those who like material in Braille, I have a 69 page 9 by 9 inchh
double
sided  braille document with the 9 window-eyes tips of the day, great
resource!
just email back with your mailing address and I will send it out free
matter
for the blind.
Regards,
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Re: Very Minor Suggestion Regarding the B and Shift B Command in Browse Mode

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Window-Eyes could always say "no next" or "no previous" followed by the 
control you're trying to navigate to.


On 26/03/2015 17:04, David Goldfield via Talk wrote:

Yesterday, I was navigating through a Web page and I pressed the letter
B as I thought that the page contained buttons. As it happens, the page
did not contain any buttons and Window-eyes understandably said "no
button." I thought, however, that this was, in fact, a button labeled
"no" as in a form where you have a "yes" button and a "no" button. It's
almost funny, really, and I found it amusing. I wonder if the message
should be changed to something like "no button available" or words to
that effect.
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Re: leaving list

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Actually this is now the case with demo copies available here
www.gwmicro.com/demo
If you never had Window-Eyes before it will run as a 60 day fully 
functional evaluation. After that or if you have used Window-Eyes 
previously it will run as a restricted 30 minute demo.


On 31/03/2015 17:52, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:

Isn't there a 60 day evaluation version that you get when you're on a
payment plan? It's the full product, but after 60 days it stops working
completely. Perhaps that's what he's referring to.

On 3/30/2015 5:46 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

   why leave the list?
the demo should still work for 30 minutes at a time.
you just have to reboot the computer to get another 30 minutes of use.
reloading the demo will only give you 5 minutes until the computer is
re booted.

-Original Message- From: wally from michigan via Talk
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:28 PM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: leaving list

Well folks, i have learned a lot here, and thanks for all the help. My
demo copy of window eyes no longer works, and i don't have office on
this computer, so i must bid all of you a fond farewell.  Mark solomon,
netbat, Chris, and all others, i'll miss you.  Maybe some day my ship
will come in and i'll buy window eyes.  Thanks.

On 3/30/2015 1:20 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

Hi,

The best time to send a diagnostic report is when you are having the
issue in question.

After rebooting the computer or restarting Window-eyes the issue in
question is gone.

Hope this helps,
Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
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-Original Message-
From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:54 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Diagnostics

Hi

If W-E, or perhaps it's the computer,  crashes in a way which means I
lose everything except the letter keys, three of the numpad keys which
just say "beginning of Page, end of page", and "center", my only option
is to restart.  In that case, is it worth starting diagnostics when
Windows comes up again, or is all memory of the problem session lost?
This has now happened to me twice.





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Re: browsing the web issues

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Try them with another browser like Firefox. Also make sure you are in 
fact running 9.1 and not 9.0.


On 08/04/2015 01:23, Jim Ruby via Talk wrote:

I'm just curious why we is having so many problems when browsing the web
losing speech, not being able to navigate on many pages while trying with
other screen readers have very little or no trouble at all. I really hate to
say this as I've been a we user since the beginning on win 95 I'm finding
myself having to use other resources more and more often to do some of the
simple things on pages I always visited before to get my research done. I am
having this happen using ie on my desk top as well as my laptop both running
win 7 x 64 systems with all the latest windows updates. :(

Am I the only one running in to this type of behavior?

I'd like to send in the web pages for you to look at but often we is so
unresponsive it makes it hard to get this information to you.

At any rate here is hoping we can get back to its former magnificence and
stability.

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Re: Windows 8 facebook app.

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Can I just say wow! This seems to be accessible with NVDA as well! I 
would say if ever GWSocialEyes stops working for any reason, you may 
want to check out this app free in the Windows App Store. Proud of 
myself personally though, as this is the first app I ever installed on 
this 8.1 64 bit laptop!


On 11/04/2015 04:51, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

Ok, i keep hearing the windows 8 app version of facebook is accessible, is
this true? Any tips on using it with WE? I have never used fb on the pc
always on my phone, so any help or tips on this would be great.

Thanks
Reeva
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Windows apps in general was Re: Windows 8 facebook app.

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Well, since I'm new to Windows apps in general can someone tell me 
please how to access menus if there are any, and any tips and tricks you 
can offer. I know how to close an app, and I have apps showing in the 
taskbar and can work out how to use an app in general. From memory I 
know Windows-z does something, but all NVDA and probably Window-Eyes 
says is unknown expanded checked. I have no idea what this is meant to 
be. Also when I press the application key, all I can see is a refresh 
button. Thanks!


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Yep this app works a treat.  Everything is tabable and is accessible  using
standard windows command.  You can also spell  check as you write.  Just use
the context menu to correct  any errors.  Let me know if there is anything
else you need to know.

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Re: Windows apps in general was Re: Windows 8 facebook app.

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

So is it not available for Windows 8.0? Not that one should be on it really.
> On 11 Apr 2015, at 21:06, Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you are running windows 8.1 you can find it in the windows app store
> witch is installed on your computer.
> Hth 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:09 AM
> To: Christopher Hallsworth; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Windows apps in general was Re: Windows 8 facebook app.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where can I find the FaceBook Windows app?  I've been thinking about signing
> up for FaceBook and it seems that FaceBook has finally improved their
> privacy settings, so I think I'll give it a try.
> 
> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
> 
> On 4/11/2015 3:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth via Talk wrote:
>> Well, since I'm new to Windows apps in general can someone tell me 
>> please how to access menus if there are any, and any tips and tricks 
>> you can offer. I know how to close an app, and I have apps showing in 
>> the taskbar and can work out how to use an app in general. From memory 
>> I know Windows-z does something, but all NVDA and probably Window-Eyes 
>> says is unknown expanded checked. I have no idea what this is meant to 
>> be. Also when I press the application key, all I can see is a refresh 
>> button. Thanks!
>> 
>> On 11/04/2015 08:25, Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk wrote:
>>> Yep this app works a treat.  Everything is tabable and is accessible 
>>> using standard windows command.  You can also spell  check as you 
>>> write.
>>> Just use
>>> the context menu to correct  any errors.  Let me know if there is 
>>> anything else you need to know.
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Re: Windows apps in general was Re: Windows 8 facebook app.

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Oh ok because I could not find the search field anywhere to begin with. 
Then somehow it came up and managed to download and install Facebook.


On 11/04/2015 23:31, Scott via Talk wrote:

hello, just click into the store, and type facebook in the search field
and hit enter.
Then u can find the install button somewhere, but i don't remember now
where it is.
hth

Scott

On 4/11/2015 11:09 AM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

Hi,

Where can I find the FaceBook Windows app?  I've been thinking about
signing up for FaceBook and it seems that FaceBook has finally
improved their privacy settings, so I think I'll give it a try.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/11/2015 3:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth via Talk wrote:

Well, since I'm new to Windows apps in general can someone tell me
please how to access menus if there are any, and any tips and tricks
you can offer. I know how to close an app, and I have apps showing in
the taskbar and can work out how to use an app in general. From
memory I know Windows-z does something, but all NVDA and probably
Window-Eyes says is unknown expanded checked. I have no idea what
this is meant to be. Also when I press the application key, all I can
see is a refresh button. Thanks!

On 11/04/2015 08:25, Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk wrote:

Yep this app works a treat.  Everything is tabable and is
accessible  using
standard windows command.  You can also spell  check as you write.
Just use
the context menu to correct  any errors.  Let me know if there is
anything
else you need to know.

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Re: Windows 8 facebook app.

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

I also cannot figure out how to tat friends in a post. I click status, 
click tag a friend, search for a friend, press enter on the friend in 
question, click save but I just get taken back to the search for a 
friend field. And no preceeding the friend with the "at" symbol does not 
work in this app. Otherwise if this is a new app this is a great start.


On 11/04/2015 23:26, Scott via Talk wrote:

yes, it seems to work fairly well.
There is some things i can not figure out though, like how to deal with
replying to notification.
And chat/messages r somewhat of a problem too.
In fact i was just sensing msgs to two different people on there, and i
hope i sent the correct person the correct message.
It seems to work no matter what screen reader i have used, window eyes,
system access or nvda.
I hope this helps.

Scott

On 4/10/2015 11:51 PM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

Ok, i keep hearing the windows 8 app version of facebook is
accessible, is
this true? Any tips on using it with WE? I have never used fb on the pc
always on my phone, so any help or tips on this would be great.

Thanks
Reeva
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My list

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Hi all,
In response to a separate off topic message, I invite you to my general 
technology list The Tech Zone. Window-Eyes users are welcome!  to 
join simply send a blank email to

the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
Thank you, see you there!
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Re: free Rollback RX

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Great news! Have now downloaded the program.

On 13/04/2015 01:41, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,

It has been mentioned on this list numerous times about restoring the
system to an earlier time with the Windows Restore feature.  Apparently
the Windows Restore feature can cause problems although I have never
experienced this.

Anyway, there is now a free or home version of Rollback RX. Just do a
search for Rollback RX Home download.

The Home version only allows 7 snapshots and does not allow the setting
up of when the snapshops can be taken automatically. By default, a new
snapshot is taken upon bootup and does not take long for the 7 to be
reached. At this point, no more snapshots are recorded without manual
intervention.

The first snapshot is locked and cannot be unlocked or deleted which
leaves 6 snapshots available. This is where the programme becomes useful.

It is very simple with WE, to go into the snapshots, right click the
oldest snapshot and delete it. A new snapshot can be then manually taken
by pressing control n and follow the prompts.

Currently I am deleting the oldest and creating a new one every 4 days
giving a maximum of 24 days coverage.  The whole process of deletion and
creation is very quick and easy.  However, the next boot up may take a
while as the existing snapshots are defragged.

I had a situation recently where the system would not boot correctly and
the Windows Restore feature would not work.

With sighted assistance, very early in the boot process, it was noticed
that a message briefly flashed on the screengiving the option to press a
key.  From memory, I think it was the "Home"key which needed to be
pressed in order to give access to the Rollback feature. Anyway, it was
then a simple task of using the keys to select andexecute a Rollback
snapshot. At this early point in the boot process, the mouse would not
function.

The rollback worked perfectly and my system was back to normal in a
short time.


HTH
Neville.

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Re: Accessible Partitioning Software

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Partition Assistant from
www.extend-partition.com


On 14/04/2015 14:57, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote:



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Re: telling the time

[Christopher Hallsworth via Talk]

Sounds like you have the insert key layout enabled. If you press 
control-alt-0 to disable, insert-t should work as expected.


On 15/04/2015 05:38, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote:

Hi Gang,

Am I getting forgetful or did the hot key change for telling the time?
I thought it used to be insert plus T.  Now if I use that combo it just
reads what's current like the control shift R  does.  Thanks to who
everhas the answer.


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W 6 Z Y P
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Re: firefox and flash?

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but suspend flash isn't needed with the new browse 
mode.
> On 16 Apr 2015, at 22:03, net bat via Talk  wrote:
> 
> does w e 9.1 still have the option to suspend flash?
> it probibly won't not work on ebay but would like to try.
> i would advise people that are useing ebay to contact them about the flash 
> advertisement they have on there main page now.
> it keeps re loading the page and w e 9.1 will keep reading it over and over 
> again. rendering they're page almost useless. pressing the shift key to shut 
> it up helps for a little while before it starts again. long enough to enter 
> something to search on. but i can't go to anything else on the page without 
> the flash interupting me.
> 
> 
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. 
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Re: Test.

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Worked
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 03:00, Trent Fogle via Talk  
> wrote:
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> Hello.
> 
> I've switched from my Internet provider's email to Gmail because of
> technical reasons and have subscribed again.
> 
> Just wondering if this is working or not.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Trent Fogle.
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Re: gw social eyes?

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Not according to what was posted by AI Squared.
> On 30 Apr 2015, at 19:16, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hi, this program has been discontinued.thank you.
> 
> Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue
> 
> On 1 May 2015, at 4:01 am, Darrell Bowles via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hello, Whare can I get an authorization, and the d download for GW social 
> eyes?
> THanks,
> Darrell
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Re: window-eyes support address

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wesupp...@aisquared.com
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Re: question

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

You can only uninstall the program, not modify or repair it.
> On 17 May 2015, at 06:19, michael's mail boxl via Talk 
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> Hi guys i was wondering how to do a repair on WE.
> I was thinking about going to add and remove programs and i think it comes 
> up about removing or repair after you click on the program is that right.
> Cheers Michael. 
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Re: Seeking Your Input

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Hi all

Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to use 
without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote Assistance was 
introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now, thanks to a later 
update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance, it is not so. Some 
clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.

Thanks for reading.
> On 29 May 2015, at 00:25, Bill Belew via Talk  
> wrote:
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> I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely works
> for me any longer.  
> 
> I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bill=mind@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: Seeking Your Input
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
> could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
> reading product, what would they be?
> 
> Thanks for the input!
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> Jeremy Curry
> Director of Product Management
> Ai Squared, Inc.
> Phone: (802) 362-3612
> Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
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Re: Seek Suggested Development

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Wow! Where are they going to get the revenue then? *smile* anyway while I'm a 
Mac junkie, I'm all for good progress on all platforms.
> On 30 May 2015, at 04:57, Peter Duran via Talk  
> wrote:
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> Hello
> 
> Microsoft will release Office 2016 as a free software package this year,
> probably when Windows 10 is released.  It would be wonderful if full support
> for Office 2016 were available.  Then everybody could avail themselves of
> free Window-Eyes and free Office 2016 as their educational and work
> platform.  Complete access at last, no economic barriers to personal
> fulfillment!
> 
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Re: instantbird troubles

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Think my friend is having the same problem using NVDA 2015.1. I suggested that 
Instantbird may no longer work with Facebook due to major changes in the API 
that prevents third party clients from using Facebook chat at least.
> On 1 Jun 2015, at 04:27, Jed Barton via Talk  
> wrote:
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> Hey guys,
> 
> I have no idea why this is ahppening, but i nolonger see anyone in my 
> instantbird contacts.  I didn't change anything.  I am running window-eyes 
> 8.4, but i no longer see any contacts in my list, and i usually see a ton of 
> them.
> Is there any way to see if something got corrupt, or how to fix this, any 
> ideas of what could be wrong?  This makes no sense why it happens.
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Re: Netflix?

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Good luck, because I could not access the player controls on the Mac. If it's 
anything like that, you may not be able to access them under Windows either. I 
had to enable it through the iOS app.



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> Hi.
> I have a feeling this question has been asked and answered, but cannot find
> the thread.  Can you turn on Netflix's audio description using either
> Firefox or IE with WE?  If so, how?  Thanks.
> Bill
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Re: testing

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Passed
> On 18 Jun 2015, at 19:12, Sky Mundell via Talk  
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> This is a test
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Re: sapi5 eloquence now available

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I think I saw an option in Control Panel > Speech Recognition > text to speech 
to change the audio output.


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> On 7 Jul 2015, at 22:52, Joseph Norton via Talk  
> wrote:
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> Another thing I don't like about using SAPI voices is that you can't select
> the sound device for the synth.
> 
> In a job I do, the phone application uses the default sound device, which is
> a headset.  If I use SAPI, it also wants to go through the headset.  I can
> use the WE voices routed through the main sound board on the laptop, and,
> the other sound still goes through the headset.
> 
> If I just used a sound card, it wouldn't matter as much.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Petro T. Giannakopoulos via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 4:04 PM
> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence now available
> 
> I believe someone said A T Guys sells it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:15 PM
> To: Rob ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence now available
> 
> Try as I may, I'm nhot sure how on earth you managed to buy this thing.
> Every time I hit the icon to add it to my cart, it never adds it.  I click
> view my shopping cart, and  nothing is in it.
> 
> I've tried with Window-eyes, NVDA, JAWS, and even on my Mac have tried with
> Safari and Voiceover.
> 
> I've tried with IE11, Chrome, Firefox, etc.
> 
> I've done this on a Windows 8.1 system, my Windows 7 system, my Windows XP
> Pro system, my mac which is on Safari and Chrome both, and is running
> 10.10.4 Yosemite, so totally up to date, and even have tried on I O S with
> my IPhone, and my IPad.  I even tried with Firefox on my Nexus6 Android
> device which is running Talkback 4.2 with Lollypop 5.11.
> 
> I even tried with my Samsung Tab 4 which is Talkback 4.2, and is running
> Android 4.42 KitKat.  Come to think of it, I even tried on an old
> nonactivated 2013 Generation Motorola X phone running firefox, Talkback 4.2,
> and KitKat 4.44.
> 
> None of these solutions are working.  I hit add to cart, scroll down to view
> shopping cart, hit that, scroll down to the table, and it says your cart is
> empty.  So, I have no clue how you're getting this to work.
> 
> Sure as hell would love to know though.
> 
> I got the demo downloaded no problem.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rob via Talk" 
> To: "Josh K" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:00 PM
> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence now available
> 
> 
>> I bought it and I now use it for my crosswords and Q read. It's awesome. 
>> Got a few punctuation problems still, but this is still only version 1.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Josh K via Talk" 
>> To: "Joseph Norton" ; "'Sunshine'" 
>> ; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 11:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence now available
>> 
>> 
>>> this synthesizer not only works with window eyes but it is sapi5 and you 
>>> get more languages and features the window eyes one does not offer. I 
>>> have one kid and am raising him on my own and will still manage to find 
>>> or come up with the money to buy this sapi5 eloquence that works with any
> 
>>> screen reader i throw at it. it even works with microsoft narator!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>> 
>>> On 7/7/2015 11:04 AM, Joseph Norton wrote:
 Hi:
 
 45 pounds is a little pricy for me.  If I spend anywhere near that much,
 I'll buy the voices from GW, since it's my chosen solution.
 
 My wife would have a cow if she saw that kind of charge on our account 
 for a
 speech synthesizer, plus, we couldn't afford to feed the cow, since 
 we've
 got 2 kids already.
 
 
 
 
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 Behalf Of Sunshine via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 4:07 AM
 To: Josh K; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence now available
 
 Josh, do you know if there are any voice samples for this sapi 5 version
 of equlance? if so could you share some voice samples?
 
 On 7/5/2015 1:54 PM, Josh K via Talk wrote:
> hi
> there is now sapi5 eloquence available. get the demo from here.
> 
> 
 
> http://www.comproom.co.uk/downloads/EloquenceForWindows_ComputerRoom-Setup.e
 xe
> 
> and buy it here.
> 
> 
 
> http://comproom.secured-area.co.uk/acatalog/Code_Factory_Nuance_Voices.html
> 
> you can use it to play audio games that require sapi. it comes with
> th

Re: Windows 10

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Not if you have an OEM version it seems. My laptop came with Windows 8.1 64 bit 
OEM. I did the upgrade today, and now it won't activate. Not a big deal, as 
thanks to an article I found on Google I got my product key which have saved as 
a text document. The next step would be to presumably download the ISO which I 
also have, either mount that or burn to DVD/USB and perform an in-place 
upgrade. Long winded but I'm sure it can be done.


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> On 29 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Steve Clower via Talk  
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> If you're upgrading, no. Windows will handle activation automatically.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:06 PM
> To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: Windows 10
> 
> Do you have to type in a key for Windows 10?
> 
> Pastor Gil
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Don H via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:59 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Windows 10
> 
> I assume that there is still more than one edition of Windows 10, such
> as home and pro.  Does it install the version that matches your current
> Operating System?
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Re: Windows 10

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no. The upgrade handles that.


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> Do you have to type in a key for Windows 10?
> 
> Pastor Gil
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> -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk
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> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Windows 10
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> I assume that there is still more than one edition of Windows 10, such
> as home and pro.  Does it install the version that matches your current
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Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 still crashing With Windows Explorer

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Try opening the ribbon and selecting the view tab. To do this, press the alt 
key as if you were opening a menu bar. Now right arrow to view tab and press 
space to select.
> On 31 Jul 2015, at 01:31, Kevin Minor via Talk  
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> Hi Chip.
> 
> I am using Windows 10, and I tried to follow your instructions to see if my
> preview pane was checked.  I can't find any organize option when tabbing in
> Windows Explorer.  Any ideas to try?
> 
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: Windows 10 gone

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Wrong for the first 30 days. You can roll back to your previous version. After 
that, there's no going back. Who said Windows 10 deletes any recovery 
partitions? If true, that's not good especially for those who bought PCs 
preinstalled with Windows 7, 8 or 8.1.
> On 31 Jul 2015, at 01:23, l.urie via Talk  wrote:
> 
> I thought that once Windows 10 was installed there was no going back?  Is 
> that wrong?
> 
> Lee
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Don H via Talk" 
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> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:29 PM
> Subject: Windows 10 gone
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>> Should have taken the advise to wait on the Windows 10 upgrade.  I continued 
>> to have problems with WE not reading anything in the file explorer.  Thought 
>> I had it fixed but no such luck.  I have now gone back to Windows 8.1 and 
>> hope what ever the problems are whether it is a WE or Windows issue get 
>> fixed soon.  Just a note reverting back to Win 8.1 was painless.
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