Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[kitty hevener via Talk]

folks, please please let this topic die!  I'm getting carpel tunnel syndrome 
just hitting the delete key so many times.  Seriously, I think we have 
beaten this horse to death!!!


-Original Message- 
From: Bill Tillery via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:47 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!

Yes, and thanks for stating this.  All the speculation is nothing until the
owners of the software say things have changed!

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 11:18 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the
thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
friends...




On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:

Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
selling it?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

   And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes.

-Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
this tell you?

On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there FOLKS!

Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far as
I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called about
obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for the
future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about
Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
APPRECIATE!. 


On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:

Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very good
job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job than
Window Eyes.

But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, and
they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest
upgrade,
and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update, andcx isn't
all that much better than what you had bfore you spend an extra $200.
Then
they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
trouble
installing on more than one or two Systems.

And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something else
in my system that caused the system lock up.

I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves and
we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear Grandmother's eyes,
as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find her without someone
taking our hand and leading us up to the old girl.

Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to do
with the desperation of many who are Blind.
  Here is something to think about-
I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a Quad
Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM,  and a 750 GB Hard Drive, for
$250.

We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests
them
and puts them up for sale.
So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of
JAWS
is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure.

When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as the
computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that.

And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the owners,
and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem with a
Company doing.  But there is the Greed factor that tends to raise its
uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they believe the
Market will bare.  And with most program sales getting paid for by our
Government, the same government that will pay $600 for a Toilet Seat,
why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a screen Reader program? After all,
Uncle SAM is good for it, even though few people who are Blind can
afford it, with most living on minimum wage jobs, or some level of
Social Security.

JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than Window
Eyes, in some cases.

I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they
interacted with their customers.

I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of
people
to work and deal with when you needed to do so.  From the days of
DOS to
just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I Squared  I felt their
customer service and program s

Re: Windows Live Mail question

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Dave, Yes, you can save your messages.  There is a sent messages folder.  If 
you are in the in box where your messages are listed, press shift-tab one 
time and you should hear folders tree view.  Down arrow to sent.  Tab one 
time to see the messages in that folder.  Hope it helps.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 9:06 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Windows Live Mail question

This is an odd question.  When Sending email using Windows Live Mail, is
there any way to Save a copy of the Email Sent?

In other mail programs, there is usually a folder for Sent mail, but I
am not seeing one in Windows Live Mail.Is there one?  And if so,
where do I find it, or flip a switch to have one?

Thanks,

Grumpy Dave


--
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Re: Steve Clower

[kitty hevener via Talk]

reg, a few weeks ago, he emailed us to say he was leaving.  I forgot exactly 
what his last date was, but perhaps it has happened.


-Original Message- 
From: Reg Webb via Talk

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:03 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Steve Clower

After having striven mightily to help me with a Sonar problem, my last
mail to Steve Clower got an automated reply, indicating that he has left
A I Squared.  This was a bit sudden wasn't it?

If you have any support matters pending with Steve, you might want to
make sure that they are still in the works.

--
Reg


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Re: Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi Jeremy, I am sad to see you leave, but wish you all the very best in your 
new job.  Not familiar with interactive technology.  What will u be doing 
there?


-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you all well.  As the subject says, I will be 
leaving  Ai Squared. After serving with this team for nearly 12 years, my 
final day will be Friday, October 28.  I have decided to take a job with 
Interactive Accessibility.  While I won't be part of Ai Squared any more, I 
want you all to know that it has been an honor to serve our customers.  I 
plan to continue to stay active in the assistive technology community, and I 
don't plan to be a stranger. 


As one of my favorite Bible verses says, "In their hearts humans plan their 
course, but the Lord establishes their steps"  (Proverbs 16:9). I am looking 
forward to the new challenges and people that God has in store for me.


Warm Regards and God Bless,

Jeremy
Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.com
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Re: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my computer

[kitty hevener via Talk]

I tried texting using the postings for verizon wireless.  Almost 48 hours 
later, none of the texts have gone through nor have I gotten undeliverable 
messages.  So, am thinking it doesn't work.


-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Chao via Talk

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 5:44 PM
To: Smith, Veronica ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my computer

for AT&T,you would do the following:


1.  In your emailer on your PC, go to the TO: field.


2.  In that field, you would type:


1234567...@txt.att.net


where the numbers above you'd replace with the actual phone number to
which you want to send a text message.  You can skip over the Subject:
heading and send up to 250 characters in the text message.  Hope this
helps.--Matthew Chao




On 8/19/2016 5:29 PM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:
So I was just curious, since I've never heard of this, but say I want to 
send a text from my computer and I use AT&T, what exactly do I do. 
Please, please walk me through the process.

Veronica

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Ted Larson via Talk

Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:14 PM
To: 'Marilyn H'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my 
computer


Marilyn:
Thanks for your reply.  Regards:  Ted Larson


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+ted.larson=yahoo@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Marilyn H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:14 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: somewhat off topic--can i text someone's phone from my 
computer


Verizon uses:
1234567...@vzwpix.com
with the first part being the phone number of course.
Marilyn
At 05:10 PM 8/17/2016, you wrote:

Unless you know the carrier of that person's cell number, probably not.
Each carrier has its own way of accepting text messages from a
computer.  For example, AT&T's texting service uses the following:


1234567...@txt.att.net


Other carriers will do something else.  As far as I know, there's no
way to determine by phone number what carrier the person to whom you
want to send a text message has.  Hope this helps.--Matt, N1IBB.




On 8/17/2016 7:48 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:

Dear List:

In the past, if I knew the domain of someone's cell phone, I could send 
a

message to their phone.  However, I usually do not know their domain.

When
anyone else texts from their phone to another phone, all they need is 
the
ten-digit phone number.  Is there a way for me to text from my computer 
to

someone's phone with just their phone number?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted

Larson



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windoweyes hot keys alt 1-5 not working in we 9.5

[kitty hevener via Talk]

What do I need to do to make these keys function as they should in windows live 
mail?  Ap status in turned on.  I had this issue with wlm in we 9.4 but forgot 
how I fixed it.  

Thanks for your help.  
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Re: Exporting Contacts from WLM

[kitty hevener via Talk]

tom, I went through this ordeal about six or seven months ago.  To make it 
work, I think I ended up just selecting everything.  At first, I didn't 
really want all the fields as had not put stuff in them.  However, I ended 
up with a true mess when I imported.  I really should do another export on 
mine, so if u still need help, will do it and note exact details of how I 
did it.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Exporting Contacts from WLM

I am using WLM 2012 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro and Window-Eyes 9.5. I am 
having a terrible time exporting contacts to a CSV file. I can’t tell which 
items are selected in  the export, and even though I should be able to 
select 29 fields, I can only select 18 items. What is going on? Is this the 
best we can do with exporting contacts? Is another E-mail client better?

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Re: Your confirmation is required to join the Talk mailing list

[kitty hevener via Talk]

I have gotten a bunch of them too.

-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,Inc. via Talk

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:00 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Your confirmation is required to join the Talk mailing list

Anyone knows what's going on here?  I've gotten more than ten messages like
this below.  Are certain list members heing hacked without them knowing it?
Just wondering!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



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Re: PDF documents

[kitty hevener via Talk]

marc, very helpful, thanks much.

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:24 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: PDF documents

Don,
Here is a link to an Adobe support article with instructions on forcing PDFs 
to open in Adobe Reader instead of your browser: 
https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html. You can 
also save the PDF file to your computer using the link's context menu and 
then open it in Adobe Reader. Pressing Enter on a PDF link in a web browser 
using default settings leads to a poor experience for screen reader users.

Best,
Marc

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On July 7, 2016 9:14:08 PM Don H via Talk  
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I am running Windows 10 and Acrobat reader DC with the latest version of 
WE.

When I go to a web site where there are PDF files to view after opening
them I can't return to the web page from where the PDF link was.  How
can I change this behavior so I can read the PDF then return to the web
site I was on?
Thanks
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Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever

[kitty hevener via Talk]

I think my best one is I said how can my computer need servicing when I 
don't even own one lol!


-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:26 PM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where 
ever


Hello,

Looks like most here have had to deal with these guys as well.  Some of
your responses were quite good!A couple of them had me laughing.
Had me wishing they would call me back again so I could pull the same
stunts.

I did respond one time where I completely had the guy speechless.


Idiot Caller:  Hello this is Windows Technical Support.  We have
detected a problem with your computer.

Grumpy Dave:  Sorry, but I use an Apple System.  Apples do not run
MS Windows.


The guy didn't know what to say to that one.

Actually, I think Apple systems can run MS Windows, but if you have an
Apple, why put MS Windows on it?  Well, I can see needing to run some
software that is only made for Windows.  But even then, I think I would
just buy a cheap MS Windows System, rather than having a Dual-Boot Mac.


But thanks for the feed back for the question.   I am not as concerned
about these calls now.

Grumpy Dave


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Re: Of Possible Interest

[kitty hevener via Talk]

thanks, sounds like a good resource.

-Original Message- 
From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 7:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Of Possible Interest

This just came through on the Bard List.

Windows 10: the missing manual : the book that should have been in the box
DB83406

Pogue, David. Reading time: 29 hours, 33 minutes.

Read by Bill Burton.

Computers

Guidebook to using the Windows 10 computer operating system, which was
released in 2015. Topics include what is found on the desktop, programs,
accessing the internet, the use of hardware and peripherals, maintaining
your computer, and setup and use of a network. Addresses accessibility in
the "Settings and Control Panel" chapter. 2015

 Download Windows 10: the missing manual : the book that should have been
in the box

HTH.

Rebecca





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Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Just a thought, are you using the bypass key (ins-b) prior to entering 
ctrl-shift-r to reply to more than one person?


-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:13 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

ON the main screen, the wlm set file is associated with the program.

IN a open message, the wlm set file is associated with the program.

The only way I can reply to more than one message, I have to exit wlm, and
restart we.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:52 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

when on the main screen open the w e control panel to see if the wlm set
file
is associated with the program.
then again when you open a message.
wlm uses two copies of the samme set file

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:48 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Yes, I do.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:44 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

do you have the wlm app installed? this has the wlm set files included too.
or if you do check that it has not been disabled in the app manager.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 7:18 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Here’s the problem I now have with windows live mail on this new computer.
When replying to my first message after starting we, it works as it should.
Here is where the problem starts.  When I go to reply to my second message,
I
can’t use the arrow keys to review what I typed.  The back space won’t speak
when I back space.  When I check to see what set file is loaded, It’s
wineyes.set.
On the first message, It’s WindowsLiveMail.set.
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Re: suggestions for window-eyes

[kitty hevener via Talk]

tom, I couldn't have said it better.  Speech recognition is by no means 
perfect.  For instance, I can give my flip phone a command that it in theory 
recognizes.  Sometimes it does what I command it to and other times, the 
result is way out in left field.  And, in both instances, my amount of 
background noise is the same.  But, for those of us with repetitive motion 
injuries in hands and arms, having a reliable speech option would be nice. 
I hope dictation bridge is the answer.  Am excited about its possibilities.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:19 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: suggestions for window-eyes

Dennis,

I'm glad you have no problems using the keyboard. Please take a second
and think about those who do. Then think of a writer who is able to
simply think out loud instead of being hampered by typing as fast as is
possible. I'm sure there are more examples of helpful and practical
reasons to use dictation. And freedom of choice isn't exactly a bad
thing; at least for those of us who live in a free society.

Regards,
Tom


On 6/8/2016 2:07 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

It shouldn't be relied on as a primary option.  It should be an option for
those that want to use it but you don't stop being able to use the 
keyboard

to accomplish what you need to.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:05 PM
To: Marc Solomon; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: suggestions for window-eyes

I myself have CP, and dictation bridge would asist me alot! RJ


On 6/8/2016 1:35 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Hi Darrell,
Regarding your first request for Window-Eyes to support Windows Speech

Recognition (WSR), DictationBridge is the potential solution. They have an
activate crowd sourcing campaign, and if they raise $15,000, they have
committed to adding DictationBridge to Window-Eyes and ZoomText Fusion. 
You

can learn more at http://dictationbridge.com/.

Best,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:14 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: suggestions for window-eyes

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.



Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode

with

window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,
you have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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Re: WLM Question

[kitty hevener via Talk]

alt-7 pressed twice quickly.  The seven is on the keyboard not the numpad.

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:00 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: WLM Question

Darn, I can’
‘t remember the keystroke to open attachments in WLM. Can someone refresh 
me??

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Re: Information on Upgrading to Windows 10

[kitty hevener via Talk]

jim, I tried it a few months ago.  I followed the directions on the two part 
tutorial that mark solomon put together.  I think you can do most of it 
yourself.  I ran in to some issues that had nothing to do with windows 10 or 
window-eyes.  So, I ultimately had to get lots of help, including a complete 
recovery of windows 7.  I haven't tried since.   In the tutorial, I seem to 
recall having to ultimately reinstall the latest version of we.  But, now 
that we are on 9.4, don't know if that is still an issue.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:24 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Information on Upgrading to Windows 10

Hi,
Can any of the folks that have gone through the upgrade process from 7 or 8 
to 10 tell me if they were able to do it themselves, or if they needed 
sighted assistance?  How did the procedure go, and how did you know when it 
was completed?
After installing WindowEyes 9.4 as the screen reader, what changes do I need 
to make to 10 to make things work as well as Windows 7, and where do I go to 
make the changes?
After the upgrade, is it still necessary to download a full version of 10 to 
do a clean install?
I’m planning on giving the upgrade a go over the weekend, without sighted 
help, so any advice, hints or tips, will be greatly appreciated.


Regards.
Jim.

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Re: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

[kitty hevener via Talk]

veronica, I have windows 7 and office 2013.  I use microsoft security 
essentials as antivirus and malware bytes and have no problem with we.


-Original Message- 
From: Smith, Veronica via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:21 AM
To: Bob Tinney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

Oh and I have windows 7. , so am trying to find out what is the best virus 
protector.  I have Norton and it is messing with my stuff. V


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Bob Tinney via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:05 AM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem

Russ,

I don't know where all of the windows 10 bashing got started, but go ahead 
and upgrade to windows 10.  Its free until July of this year and unless you 
have some really old peripherals, they should work just fine in Windows 10. 
I'm running Windows 10 on all of our computers and I do not regret 
upgrading!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/5/2016 9:25 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

Does anyone know anything about the following article?
I wonder if I’ll be stuck with using windows 10?
I have a Asus computer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#e18758f395e5


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Re: I have had enough

[kitty hevener via Talk]

the constant update messages deals with those of us who are still using 
windows 7.  Microsoft keeps nagging people to get windows 10.  Hope that 
helps clear up the confusion.


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:00 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: I have had enough

Chris,

I agree with you.  I haven't had that many Windows 10 updates and they
have never stopped me from doing anything.  When you go to shutdown, you
might get a notification asking if you want to update and shutdown or
just shutdown.  I always pick the update and shutdown option, and my
Wife always picks the shutdown only option so that I have to catch her
computer up with updates every once and a while.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 3/23/2016 7:47 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:

Hi
I'm a bit confused, as my room mate just got a windows 10 laptop, and I've 
not noticed any updates several times a day which interrupts her use of 
the laptop.   It does update itself overnight which makes sense because 
she's not using it then. I do remember one time that it updated itself in 
the background, but it didn't request a restart to save any changes. I'm 
ok with that. Is this the case with windows 10 itself?If it does 
update and interrupts your use of it I hope there's a way to change that.




On 3/23/2016 5:37 AM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Thanks for your reply John.

Yes, I have noticed this and take particular care which updates are 
checked for download and installation.  The monthly updates are a bit of 
a battle between the user and Microsoft it seems.


Cheers
Neville.




On 23/03/2016 7:29 PM, John Farley via Talk wrote:

Hello Neville,

Please also take care about what Microsoft brings in at update time.

You may well find that it will slip in the upgrade to Windows 10 as an
optional upgrade. This is pre-checked and will need to be unchecked on 
each

occasion if you want to prevent it.

You could probably stop this, but as Microsoft seem to change its name
occasionally it will only creep back into the optional upgrade list.



Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076




-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:30 AM
To: Window Eyes
Subject: I have had enough

Thanks to those who replied to my email about stopping W10 upgrading my
system from W7.

The programme has been downloaded, run and the problem stopped.

Cheers
Neville.



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Re: Question about ctrl shift R

[kitty hevener via Talk]

if u do not want to go to the menus to find reply to all, you can use the 
bypass command ins-b.  After hitting that command, ctrl-shift-r will reply 
to all.  After that one instance, ctrl-shift-r will revert to reading from 
cursor to end of document.


-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:47 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about ctrl shift R

I believe control-shift R is reply to all; control-r is reply to the
sender.  However, control-shift R is read to end in Window-eyes.  If you
go to your context menu, just arrow to reply all and hit enter.

On 3/14/2016 2:57 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

Windows 10
WE 9.2
WLM
Del lap top

I thought ctrl R was supposed to include all addresses in To and CC:?

The computer just dings when I use that command trying to reply to an 
email.


-Bob



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Re: Update Warning

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Joseph, thanks for the tip about GWX control panel.  I installed and have 
not seen get windows 10 messages since.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 6:45 AM
To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Kevin Barry'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

Hi Dennis:

If you have Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and don't want to be forced to upgrade to
Windows 10, this program will stop the automatic download and installation
of Windows 10 and also let you know if the "Get Windows 10" app is present
and let you remove those things.

So, if you are comfortable with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, this tool will help
you decide when, or whether to upgrade to Windows 10.

As far as I know, you may not need to be as concerned after July 29, as
MicroSoft is going to charge for updating to Windows 10 after that, so, I
doubt they will push it as heavily at that point.

If you want to download this tool, you can get it from:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

There are both an installer and a stand-alone executable that you can just
run if you don't like installers.

The advantage of installing the product is that it can watch your system and
warn you if MicroSoft begins pushing Windows 10 to you.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:12 AM
To: 'Kevin Barry' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk

wrote:


your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i
will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your
account and you get denied access to your own account and files you
created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re
format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag
behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few
are w e accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i
would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live
mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things
on the screen with the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still
not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you
can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is
full access to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out
the door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any
control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the
whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil

Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its
time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better
platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion
List 
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2

dtimes.

This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: malware bytes accessibility

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi Tom, From time to time, I get a dialog box saying malware bytes has 
finished scanning.,  nonmalware detected press enter for details.  Have 
never been able to see the details and neither has sighted reader.  By 
default, what does malware bytes premium do with potential malware if u do 
nothing?


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:09 AM
To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: malware bytes accessibility

I'm running the latest version (2.2) and it works fine with Window-Eyes
9.3 on Windows 7 and 10.

Regarding the recent vulnerability? Here's the blog post at their site.
If you have the premium version you can solve this by turning on
Self-protection under Settings, Advanced. If you don't have premium you
don't have any protection other than an after the fact manual scan.

https://blog.malwarebytes.org/news/2016/02/malwarebytes-anti-malware-vulnerability-disclosure/

Hth,
Tom


On 2/22/2016 6:23 AM, David via Talk wrote:

Just for info.

It recently was claimed from some source, that MalwareBytes has
experienced a security flaw. Although they are aware of the issue, they
could not at the point of the message spreading, tell anything about
when the issue would be fixed.

I don't mean to discourage any usage of the software, and I don't know
what flaw it all is about. But just wanted to let you all know, that
apparently you will not be totally protected.

As always, the people telling about this kind of flaws, encourages us to
use some other kind of security software. and, of course, that means a
piece of software that has forgotten everything about people who do not
enjoy glossy and fancy graphics, or who simply just need a bit of
textual feedback on the controls of the suggested software.


David

On 2/22/2016 10:50 AM, Michael Capelle via Talk wrote:

you need malware bytes 1.75

-Original Message- From: Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 3:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: malware bytes accessibility

Hey guys,
Well it appears malware bytes is not accessible any more.  I am running
we 8.4, and whenever i try and access it, it literally does nothing.  I
went to the system tray in windows 7, and tried several times to do a
left and right mouse click, and my system just keeps saying taskbar.
Then i hit the desktiop icon, and now it just came up, but there are no
accessible buttons.  When i tab around, nothing, arrow up and own,
nothing.  I'm running this on a win 7 machine.  Any ideas?
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Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?

[kitty hevener via Talk]

As a troubleshooting tool, I usually start out by checking my title bar. 
Then, if still not quite sure what is going on, I tried reading a dialog box 
with ctrl-shift-w or even hitting the w twice.  If you have not already 
tried, perhaps this will help u too.


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Thomas via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:24 AM
To: 'Tony C' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes?

Hi: Yup, WE does not usually read that dialog, just locks up.
I just ran through some web pages that lock up allot with WindowEyes using
JAWS.
After navigating through a few of them JAWS reported that Internet Explorer
was not responding and had the buttons to close the program.
WindowEyes will just lock up and you have to use narrator or another screen
reader to close, even to be aware of, that dialog.
I have seen WindowEyes lock up like this in other programs as well although
not as often and it is likely that if a program has a problem WindowEyes
will lock up instead of continuing to work unlike other screen readers.
Someone had had a problem like this with some game and found it was that
WindowEyes had some kind of threading problem where it locks up if a program
locks up and he had to set some priority for either the game or WindowEyes
to get around this if I remember.
I don't know how to set the WindowEyes threading priority nor the Internet
threading priority to test this whether this might at least get the dialog
to read  - any ideas?
Rick USA


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Re: WE

[kitty hevener via Talk]

I do use wlm and, for the things I do, am not having a problem.  My biggest 
issue was in exporting and importing contacts.  In the first part of the 
dialog box, where u choose the file type, we did not speak.
-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 8:56 PM
To: Singing Sparrow ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE

It's working fine here. No problems on the web. I don't use WLM.

Regarding anti-virus software? It doesn't matter to sighted folks
because they're not using a screen-reader, which by its very nature can
be seen as a key logger because it hooks the keyboard at a low level. I
saw this with Webroot. There is nothing AI can do other than ask them to
whitelist it in their program. And if it's too much to ask we can't use
that anti-malware. So they make the choice for us.

Tom


On 2/13/2016 8:27 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:

Tony, you are right there have been other people that have said the same
things, that window eyes has been the cause of the troubles they have
been having but asquared has told people that it is your computer and
not our products when a person can confirm that it is not a persons
computer, when other screen readers, work and that window eyes always
seems to bring on the problems.


On 2/13/2016 9:59 AM, Tony C via Talk wrote:

Why is it that ;everytime I have had problems with WE reading the web,
WLM, I always get the same response in the end, “ it’s a windows
issue, or a windows focun issue”. It shouldn’t matter what virus
protection I’m using, it doesn’t matter to the sighted people. If
sighted people were limited to only being able to use a certain virus
protection or two, because of a program not being able to cope with it
then they would use a different program or contact tech support and
get it fixed, since win 7, 8 and now 10 the same issues are happening,
and I can’t really see where any of the issues have been fixed.
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Re: Dan is retiring

[kitty hevener via Talk]

dan, I wish you all the best in your retirement.  While I don't think we 
ever worked together, I certainly knew of you.  Take care.


-Original Message- 
From: Dan Weirich via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:39 PM
To: Dan Weirich
Subject: Dan is retiring

I am retiring.

My career in the Assistive Technology industry started in the late 80's, 
working for Computer Aids Corp. for a couple years, where I met Doug 
Geoffray.  Then I partnered with Doug to launch GW Micro in 1990 which 
operated for 24 years, followed by our merging into Ai Squared in 2014.  So 
now, after almost 28 years in the AT industry, it's time for me to take a 
break.  I will be retired from Ai Squared after this week.  No worries - the 
rest of the Fort Wayne office and staff will continue as normal - whatever 
normal means .


I'm not very active on this list but I look at many of the posts and I know 
many of your names even if we rarely talk on the phone or meet in person.  I 
will continue to support Ai Squared and if the opportunity presents itself 
who knows - I might come back for a few special projects from time to time. 
Thank you very much for your support and friendship.


One thing I understand - this industry is very different from all others. 
The people I know not only want to stay active, employed or stay in business 
but they also want to make the world a better place by providing quality 
products and services.  You should all be proud of whatever contribution you 
personally make.


Thank you all again for your friendship and loyalty over the many years.

Take care,

Dan

Daniel R. Weirich
VP of Strategic Programs
AI Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN  46825
www.gwmicro.com
www.aisquared.com
802-362-3612 ext. 201

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Re: Starting Narrator in Windows 7

[kitty hevener via Talk]

How about the windows key and enter?  I found that it worked when I was 
attempting to upgrade to windows 10.


-Original Message- 
From: Carmela Morrison via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:04 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Starting Narrator in Windows 7

On 2/10/16, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk  wrote:
Another way to start Narrator is Windows-R, followed by narrator. I 
suppose


you could just do Windows, followed by narrator, but that might not always
select the program.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:25 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Starting Narrator in Windows 7

Hi, Folks.  I need to install Window-Eyes on a new computer.  How do I
get Narrator going so I can finish the WE installation?  thanks in
advance.--Matthew Chao

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Loyd,
When installing Window-Eyes you will be given a choice whether you
want to install with speech or not. All you have to do is to press S
for speech and you hear all the instructions. I hope it helps.
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Re: How do you add an email address to WLM Multiple list?

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi Robert, When u are in the desired category, tab till we says "list view". 
Down arrow to the address u want.  Press spacebar to select it.  Tab till u 
hear WE say "address well".  Press ctrlv to paste in the contact.  Continue 
till u get all the contacts you want.  Then tab to the "save changes" 
button.  Hth.

73 de w8tda

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 10:44 AM
To: Talk
Subject: How do you add an email address to WLM Multiple list?

On Feb 1 I sent the following question to the List. I did not get even one
response.

They now call a multiple list a category.

WLM
WE 9.2
Windows 10.

How do I add addresses to my multiple address list, now called a category?

Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

I didn't make it to the gym today. That makes five years in a row.
I changed the name of my bathroom from John to Jim. So now I can say, "I go
to the Jim every day."

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Re: first part of import and export contacts dialog box in windows livemail not speaking

[kitty hevener via Talk]

This is to weird!!  This morning, the info I previously reported not 
speaking is now speaking.


-Original Message- 
From: kitty hevener via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:29 PM
To: windoweyes support discussion
Subject: first part of import and export contacts dialog box in windows 
livemail not speaking


Is there a setting I need to be using to get the file type selection box to 
read, or is it  a window-eyes 9.3 bug?  Thanks for your help

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first part of import and export contacts dialog box in windows live mail not speaking

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Is there a setting I need to be using to get the file type selection box to 
read, or is it  a window-eyes 9.3 bug?  Thanks for your help 
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navigating the ribbon in contacts view of windows live mail

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Trying to export my contacts in wlm.  When tabbing across the home ribbon I 
find a control that says “list dropdown pulldown”.  Prior to reinstalling 
windows 7, pressing enter to activate this control worked as expected.  Now, 
however, it doesn’t.  I hear nothing when using arrow keys and tab.  The same 
thing happens on import and any other “list dropdown pulldown control.  What’s 
wrong and how can I get it to work again?  

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Re: Windows live mail question

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Here is the sequence of commands that usually works for me.
1.  While in the text of the message. hold down the alt key and press the 
number seven twice quickly.  (the seven key is the one on the top row of 
numbers, not the numpad).
2.  Sometimes the attachments will be listed here.  If, instead of hearing 
the attachments, you hear "quick access toolbar", press escape key once.

3.  Use arrow keys to find attachments.
4.  When you have found the attachment you want, press alt-f to get into the 
file menu.

5.  Press down arrow till we says "save as".
6.  Press right arrow one time and we should say "file".
7.  Press down arrow one time and should hear attachments.
8.  Press enter to select this option.   This puts you in a dialog box.  If 
you want to save all attachments at the same time, choose the "select all" 
option.


Hope that helps.  Let me know if u need more help.

-Original Message- 
From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:51 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Windows live mail question

   Please tell me the sequence of keystrokes in Windows Live Mail 
to open an attachment.  I know how to save attachments but want to know if 
there is a mechanism for merely opening message attachments.


Thanks.

Don Roberts
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OT, backing up windows live mail contacts, account settings, and messages that are in multiple folders

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Can anyone tell me how to do this using keyboard commands?  I need to do a 
repair installation of windows 7, so motivation for doing this is high smile!!
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Re: problem upgrading from windows 7 to windows 10

[kitty hevener via Talk]

the video intercept was one of the jaws or freedom scientific things 
removed.


-Original Message- 
From: Afik Sofir via Talk

Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:13 AM
To: 'Jonathan C. Cohn' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problem upgrading from windows 7 to windows 10

Hi,

As a past jfw user, I can say that yes, jonathan right. The vedio interseft 
needs to be removed, and all other folders/files related to FS.
Now, I'm using win10 with WE 9.2 in hebrew, and I have better user 
experience



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+as=highsight.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk

Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:56 PM
To: kitty hevener; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: problem upgrading from windows 7 to windows 10

I believe there is a special uninstall error on the FS site. In any case you 
will have better response on the jfw users list on this  I believe the video 
mirror needs to be removed.



Jonathan Cohn

On Jan 17, 2016, at 10:02 AM, kitty hevener via Talk 
 wrote:


Hi, all

After listening to the tutorials on this subject by Marc Solomon, I 
summoned the courage to give it a shot.  I seem to be stuck in a loop on 
the windows setup screen.  Message says that in order to keep personal 
files and aps, I need to uninstall jaws.  (note, this was an older version 
which apparently is not compatible with windows 10.)  Through the control 
panel, (programs and features), I uninstalled jaws and everything that 
said “freedom scientific”.  Since I was still getting message that jaws 
needed to be uninstalled, I forced a shutdown and started the upgrade all 
over.  Control panel and “all programs” from the start menu show nothing 
with jaws or freedom scientific.  Yet, I continue to be told that I need 
to uninstall jaws!!!  How do I get beyond this point?


Thanks for your help.
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problem upgrading from windows 7 to windows 10

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi, all

After listening to the tutorials on this subject by Marc Solomon, I summoned 
the courage to give it a shot.  I seem to be stuck in a loop on the windows 
setup screen.  Message says that in order to keep personal files and aps, I 
need to uninstall jaws.  (note, this was an older version which apparently is 
not compatible with windows 10.)  Through the control panel, (programs and 
features), I uninstalled jaws and everything that said “freedom scientific”.  
Since I was still getting message that jaws needed to be uninstalled, I forced 
a shutdown and started the upgrade all over.  Control panel and “all programs” 
from the start menu show nothing with jaws or freedom scientific.  Yet, I 
continue to be told that I need to uninstall jaws!!!  How do I get beyond this 
point?  

Thanks for your help.  
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Re: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

[kitty hevener via Talk]

sometimes I have to hit alt-down arrow to open the box then use up and down 
arrows to find what I want.  Need to close that combo box with alt-up arrow.


-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:01 PM
To: Simon Cavendish ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

Hi Simon,

I just tested this on my Windows 10 32-bit PC running IE 11, Firefox 43.02 
and Window-Eyes 9.3.1. After opening the Get More Voices page, I pressed C 
and jumped to the first combo box. I turned Browse Mode off with Enter. 
Window-Eyes then voiced the combo box selection as I arrowed through the 
list with Up and Down arrow. I then tabbed to all the other combo boxes on 
the page and they also read as expected. I am using the default settings in 
both browsers other than setting my home page to Google. The only thing I 
can think of is maybe the combo boxes you are working with are empty would 
explain why nothing speaks with Up and Down arrow.


Regards,
Marc

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Simon Cavendish via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:31 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

Hi,

I went to the page from which one can download vocalizer voices for 
Window-eyes.  When I opened the combo box in which to choose a language and 
then the following one where you choose the voice, I had no voice feedback 
from Window-eyes.  Had I not been using a Braille display, I wouldn't be 
able to make the choice.  I run latest window-eyes in Windows 10 64bit. 
Anybody else had this experience?  Can it be fixed or is it a bug?


Many thanks

Simon
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Re: frustrations with we 9.3

[kitty hevener via Talk]

not having that issue.  Am using windows 7, office 2013.  R u using 32 or 64 
bit?


-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: frustrations with we 9.3

Guys,
I have to be 100 percent honest, having just installed we 9.3, this is
by far the slowest version of we i have ever used.  To say it's slow is
a huge under-statement.  I literally have a web page, that is all text
based, and we isn't even reading it propperly.  I'm literally arrowing
up and down a web page, and i'm hearing nothing.  Has anyone else
experienced problems like this?  I'm really beginning to think that this
computer may not be physically able to handle it. This is a win 7
machine with 4 gigs of ram.  It's about 4 years old.  I almost feel like
i've taken a step backwards.  Any thoughts on why we wouldn't be reading
this page.  I can tab around, but i see no text.
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Re: WE and Windows insider program

[kitty hevener via Talk]

hmm, don, not sure what you are talking about.  Please enlighten me. 
Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:05 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: WE and Windows insider program

Just wonder how many users are still taking part in the windows Insider
program fast track?  Seen any benefits with regards to how well WEE 9.3
works with the latest windows 10 build from fast track?
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Re: w-e 9.3

[kitty hevener via Talk]

yes, that is what I am using and it works quite well.

-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: w-e 9.3

I am still using windows 7.  Will w-e 9.3 work nicely with windows 7?

Norene

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Re: New app - Itunes Enhance!

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Rod, will this ap work with tunein.com or are we dealing with two completely 
different animals?


-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:59 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: New app - Itunes Enhance!

Hi everyone,

Just a quick note to let you know that I’ve submitted a new app which 
enhances the accessibility and functionality of Itunes.

I have included the documentation for the app below for your convenience.
The app, called Itunes Enhance, is found in the Program Enhancements 
category, next to the Itunes app, created by AI Squared.

The App Central URL is:

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1432

In summary, the app defines three program-specific hotkeys for toggling 
playback, as well as rewind and fast ford.


I hope you enjoy the added functionality provided by this app, and, for the 
perennially curious, please read on for the details. 


All the best,

Rod Hutton

Welcom to Itunes Enhance!

This app enhances the accessibility and functionality of Itunes, Apple’s 
popular media player.


Features of the initial release of Itunes Enhance

This app was initially created to correct two problems for screen-reader 
users of Itunes:


First, you will notice that the first option in the Controls menu is Play, 
and the hotkey assigned to it is Space.  However, you may have noticed that 
pressing the spacebar does not, in fact, always toggle playback, and this 
depends on the control which has focus in Itunes.  It certainly works when 
focus is on a tree view or list view, but not when on the many static boxes, 
and certainly not when focus is on buttons which serve other purposes, such 
as the sorting of content.  Clearly, there is need for a hotkey which the 
user can count on to toggle the playback of the current item.


Second, you will also notice that the Controls menu contains no option for 
rewinding and fast forwarding the currently playing track; indeed, a search 
for Itunes hotkeys on the web will lead to many independent web pages which 
include hotkeys for these two functions in their lists, and, typically, 
Control-Alt-Left arrow and Control-Alt-Right arrow, for rewind and fast 
forward, respectively.  Further evidence that these hotkeys once worked in 
Itunes is that the set file supplied by AI Squared have these hotkeys 
configured as program-specific and left undefined; normally, they are 
configured as global, and are two of the four used to adjust speech 
parameters.  Certainly there is evidence that rewind and fast forward once 
were part of the functionality of Itunes, and clearly there is a need for 
access to these functions,if Itunes supports them, and, if so, for 
easily-accessible hotkeys for them.


Controlling Itunes behind the scenes

The result of my search of the web has revealed that there is a way to 
control Itunes other than through the normal user interface, namely, through 
its programmable COM object.  In the same way that app developers can create 
apps to control Window-Eyes for specific purposes, and this is because it 
also has a programmable COM object, the functions of Itunes can be 
controlled in the same way.  My examination of the Itunes COM object has 
revealed that, among many functions,  the playback of the current track can 
be started, paused, rewound and fast forwarded.  It was a simple matter for 
me, then, to create an app which assigns these functions to Window-Eyes 
hotkeys.


The app menu

In the initial release of the app, the Itunes Enhance option on the 
Window-Eyes Apps menu has a single option, namely, Help, which opens the 
typical Help dialog for the app.  This contains the read-only edit box 
containing the present documentation, as well as a button which opens the 
Hotkey Manager dialog where you can review and reassign the app hotkeys.


The hotkeys and their functions

In the initial release of Itunes Enhance, three program-specific hotkeys are 
assigned:


PlayPause.  This hotkey (F12, by default) will start and pause playback of 
the current track; it will also resume normal playback if the track is in 
rewind or fast forward mode.  If you wish to completely stop rather than 
pause the current track, press the dedicated Itunes hotkey, which, as of 
this writing, is Control-..


Rewind.  When a track is playing, this hotkey (F10, by default) will start 
rewind mode, where you can hear fragments of the track audio as it skips 
backward; normal playback can be resumed by pressing the PlayPause hotkey; 
also, normal playback will resume automatically when the beginning of the 
track is reached.


FastForward.  When a track is playing, this hotkey (F11, by default) will 
start fast forward mode, where you can hear fragments of the track audio as 
it skips forward; normal playback can be resumed by pressing the PlayPause 
hotkey; if the end of the track is reached, normal playback will resume with 
the next track in the currrent list of tracks, or, if 

Re: Calling a Malware Bites SME

[kitty hevener via Talk]

steve, Many of the buttons or other controls do not appear to be labeled 
correctly for use with screen readers.  For instance, when I had to 
reactivate my premium
version, we told me that there was a "dashboard radio button not checked". 
Nowhere did I find any button to activate.  My sighted reader was able to 
see that button.  Also, if I get a popup concerning a threat, I can't find 
anything that says delete or remove.  Just hear "button".  Have u found a 
work around for this?
-Original Message- 
From: Steve Nutt via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:03 AM
To: 'Martha Reaney' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Calling a Malware Bites SME

Hi,

To activate buttons, press enter, not space.  You should have more success
then.

All the best

Steve

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Martha Reaney via Talk
Sent: 28 December 2015 19:29
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Calling a Malware Bites SME

Hi.

Using WE 9.3 on a Windows 10 64 bit PC.
Having trouble activating buttons on Malware Bites Premium, v 2.2.0.1024
(not sure on that version number).

Anybody up to the challenge of helping me get the hang of this program?

Martha
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Re: Calling a Malware Bites SME

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi Martha, I to have trouble with that program.  Unfortunately, somehow, my 
premium version went back to free version.  I could not get it back without 
sighted assistance.


-Original Message- 
From: Martha Reaney via Talk

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:28 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Calling a Malware Bites SME

Hi.

Using WE 9.3 on a Windows 10 64 bit PC.
Having trouble activating buttons on Malware Bites Premium, v 2.2.0.1024 
(not sure on that version number).


Anybody up to the challenge of helping me get the hang of this program?

Martha
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Re: Can't Update

[kitty hevener via Talk]

andy, I had a very similar problem.  The install wizard just froze. 
However, when I went to the website for we for office and downloaded and 
installed, it worked.


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:00 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Can't Update

I have WE 9.2.1 and am trying to update to 9.3.1. i tried to update through 
the check for updates item and it says the download reached 100% but then 
nothing else happens. I have attempted to download the file from the web 
site, but when I hit the download update button nothing happens. What should 
I do?


Andy
I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.
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Re: Webinar and tutorial topics - feedback requested

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi Marc, how about navigating in powerpoint with we.  Tasks would include 
creating and editing powerpoint slides and notes, saving and opening 
powerpoint file, and navigating between slides.  Also interested in filling 
out a .pdf form with we.  If it helps, can send you an example of the type 
of form am thinking of.


-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:16 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Window-EyesTraining List
Subject: Webinar and tutorial topics - feedback requested

Ai Squared would like to request your feedback. What topics, applications 
and tasks would you like for us to cover in a future Window-Eyes webinar or 
tutorial? The more information and details you can provide the better. Here 
are a few examples to get your creative juices flowing:


1. Using the Start Menu in Windows 10
2. Finding apps in the Windows Store
3. Purchasing a product from Amazon.com
4. What is ARIA and how can it help me on the web?
5. What is a Window-Eyes app?

Thanks,
Marc Solomon
Ai Squared


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alt-tab not reading

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi, am using windows 7, we 9.2.  Alt-tab suddenly stopped telling me what task 
I am switching to.  How can I get it to speak this info again?  Thanks.  
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using we to access some features on tunein.com

[kitty hevener via Talk]

I just got a premium level subscription to tunein.com.  This service gives 
access to live broadcasts of all nfl games, college football, many other 
sports, music, talk radio, and ability to listen to audio books.  While I 
understand there is an ap for using it with smart phones, I am just using it on 
my home computer.  

I am asking for help figuring out how to change broadcasts so that the one I 
want is actually playing.  It’s easy enough to find a link for the program I 
want.  However, when I press enter to select it, the station I no longer want 
continues to play and the desired one does not.  The title bar leads me to 
believe that I am on desired station.  Just can’t get the old one to stop and 
the new one to start.  So far, the only work around is to exit the program, log 
in again and select the desired station.  Hope there is an easier way!  Make 
sense?  

Also, signing up, which is necessary even for the seven day free trial, is 
doable but not as easy as it could be.  To find out was was needed  for many of 
the form fields, I had to turn browse mode on to read around, then turn it off 
and enter the info.  Ctrl-shift-n and ctrl-shift-d did not read anything.  
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Re: NFL Gamepass

[kitty hevener via Talk]

What is the url for all football?  I have tried a couple of the free 
football sites and often find the game I want to watch is not available on 
any of the stations.  Very frustrating!!


-Original Message- 
From: Don Mauck via Talk

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:32 PM
To: groov...@juno.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Terry Chaney
Subject: RE: NFL Gamepass

I also use "All Football, it seems to be

-Original Message-
From: Sue J Ward via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:29 AM
To: Terry Chaney; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: NFL Gamepass

 Hello thanks for the update, am still not going to pay 100 dollars to
get the broadcast. Since am a Philadelphia Eagles fan, I do listen to
the game on 94 WIP on the website cbsphilly.com. I know where to go to
listen to the broadcast and you get it in sterrio. I also found that
freefootballradio.com works well since you don't have to pay anything
for the sources I mentioned. Just thought I would give everyone some
info to save money. Enjoy the season.

On 9/21/2015 9:02 AM, Terry Chaney via Talk wrote:

In case anyone is interested, the gamepass from the NFL now works
reasonably well.  It is possible to get to live, game day radio of
teams and also to the archived broadcasts, at least most of the time
by clicking a link.  Those links do not come up until the radio is
available, maybe 20 minutes before the actual broadcast.

It's a lot later than I personally would have liked, but if you want
to listen to NFL radio coverage of a team not in your geographic area
they are probably the only game in town.
  Terry Chaney
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Re: WE 9.2

[kitty hevener via Talk]

is adobe reader bc free and does it work on windows 7?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Grabowski via Talk

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:42 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE 9.2

Hi,
Try upgrading to Adobe Reader DC.

Window-eyes 9.2 supports DC.

Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: WE 9.2

Two nights ago I wrote here that my Windows 7 system was stable with only an 
occasional crash with IE 11. Just to make a liar out of me, my system locked 
up pretty completely last night when I was loading a document into Adobe 
Reader XI. Even if I restarted Window-Eyes, as indicated by the opening 
sound, Eloquence wouldn't restart. I tried starting NvDA 2015-3 also, and 
finally heard a few words out of NVDA as the system was closing down as part 
of a restart.
I have set up sounds that give a high-pitched click when a process starts, 
and a click an octave lower when a process closes. When the crash occured 
during the loading of the PDF document, a process started, stopped after a 
few seconds, and another or the same one started and stopped again. I really 
don't know what ran. It could have been Security Essentials, but this 
doesn't normally get in the way. There was no evidence that a new Windows 
update had been installed. No Window-Eyes errors were generated.
After the restart, I was able to read the same PDF with the same program 
without incident. Go figure.



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Re: Reading a tool tip

[kitty hevener via Talk]

ctrl-insert-t.  When I say insert, I am referring to the one on the numpad. 
I have been able to read the tip using the above command, but have not been 
able to find a way to interact.  For example, my cd burning program tells me 
there is stuff in memory.  But, I can not find a way to delete it on the 
tip.  Hope that makes sense.


-Original Message- 
From: Wendy Alling via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Reading a tool tip

Hi all,

Can someone give me the window-eyes keystroke for reading a tool tip?
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: Word 2013 auto actions

[kitty hevener via Talk]

I have had that same issue and just lived weith it.  Sometimes it will go 
away if I change punctuation caps or perhaps the spelling of a word. 
Interested in any solutions too.


-Original Message- 
From: Neville via Talk

Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:46 PM
To: Window Eyes
Subject: Word 2013 auto actions

Hi,
Using: Office 2013 W7 HP 32 latest WE


Can anyone inform me how to stopWE saying"action, undo auto actions"in
Word 2013? It is very annoying.

After looking through the numerous menu items,nothing seems to readily
suggest a solution.

Thanks
Neville.

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Re: unresponsive plugin

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Marc, I thank you too as it solved my problem in firefox.  Is silverlight 
the same idea in ie?  Am asking cuz am wondering if getting rid of it would 
allow me to access the login screen on the games.espn... website using we 
9.2 and ie 11.  Some people have said they can get the login screen fine, 
but I have not been able to.


-Original Message- 
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 4:02 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: unresponsive plugin

Thank you, Marc!  I also get this.  So glad to have a solution since my IT 
team here wasn't sure how to help.




-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Marc Solomon via Talk

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:51 PM
To: j...@jedbarton.com; Jed Barton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: unresponsive plugin

Jed,
If you don't care about watching Flash based video content on the web in 
Firefox, then your best option would be to disable the Shockwave Flash 
plugin. This will prevent the plugin from running and crashing. If you want 
to do this, open the Tools menu in Firefox with Alt-T. Down Arrow to Add-ons 
and press Enter. A new tab will open in Firefox. Turn Browse Mode off and 
then Tab until you hear Extensions. Down Arrow until Plugins is selected. 
Then Tab until you reach the list of plugins. Next, Down Arrow until you 
find Shockwave Flash. Tab to the pull down menu that says Always Activate. 
Down Arrow to select Never Activate. Restart (exit and re-open) Firefox and 
the plugin should be disabled.

Regards,
Marc

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: unresponsive plugin

Hey guys,

I am having a serious problem, and am wondering if some of you guys have a 
solution.  It's very annoying.  I'm getting an error in firefox that keeps 
saying unresponsive plugin, shockwave may be busy and all that.
How do i fix this problem.  Is there any sort of way to give shockwave a 
kick to work?  This is happening on a ton of web sights, and is very 
annoying.

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Re: problematic website, need help please

[kitty hevener via Talk]

For those who said they were able to access the login information with ie 
11, am wondering what version of windows you were using.  I am using windows 
7 64 bit.  I tried the compatability setting in ie to no avail.  Would 
prefer ie over firefox, as the later seems to crash a lot for me.  But, have 
almost resigned myself to having to use that program for this site.


-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

Then it must  be some settings in IE itself. The plugins, the addons or even 
the security zone itself.
Can't really tell the exact settings to change because its not happening 
here or you know whats change to begin with. Could be anything, java script.




regards
Thomas N. Chan

-Original Message-
From: kitty hevener [mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 10:48 AM
To: Thomas N. Chan; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: problematic website, need help please

finallyfound it using firefox.  still wondering why I can't get there in ie
11, especially since others have.  Am also using windows 7, if that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:37 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

You should try with other browser first before you can determing if its
really that browser or some sort of plugsin you need.



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: kitty hevener [mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 6:27 AM
To: Thomas N. Chan; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: problematic website, need help please

thomas, thanks.  hmm, now am really stumped.  Any suggestions on what
specific settings need to be changed and where they are would be
appreciated.  Am using malware bytes and microsoft security essentials.

-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:52 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

I just tried with firefox,IE and chrome, I can find the two box, username
and password.


Maybe the java script or some browser plugin which that particular website
needs its disable at your end in IE.
Or maybe your security program is doing the deed as well. It can be
anything. But as window-eyes is concern at my end, its picking up those edit
boxes.


regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of kitty hevener via Talk
Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 4:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: problematic website, need help please

Hi, I can’t find anything on this login screen that allows me to enter my
username and password.  I see the words “log in” as a heading and those same
words above the heading.  Am using we 9.2 and ie 11.  Also tried ie 10
before installing ie 11.  I have tried hitting enter on the “heading” label,
routing the mouse pointer to the pc cursor to single and double click with
left mouse button and single click with right mouse button.  No success.
Also tried firefox but no luck.  Please help as I need my fantasy football
fix, smile!

Here is the troublesome website
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/signin?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fgames.espn.go.com%2Fffl%2Fclubhouse%3FteamId%3D11%26leagueId%3D317107%26seasonId%3D2014
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Re: problematic website, need help please

[kitty hevener via Talk]

finallyfound it using firefox.  still wondering why I can't get there in ie 
11, especially since others have.  Am also using windows 7, if that matters.


-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:37 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

You should try with other browser first before you can determing if its 
really that browser or some sort of plugsin you need.




regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: kitty hevener [mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 6:27 AM
To: Thomas N. Chan; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: problematic website, need help please

thomas, thanks.  hmm, now am really stumped.  Any suggestions on what
specific settings need to be changed and where they are would be
appreciated.  Am using malware bytes and microsoft security essentials.

-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:52 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

I just tried with firefox,IE and chrome, I can find the two box, username
and password.


Maybe the java script or some browser plugin which that particular website
needs its disable at your end in IE.
Or maybe your security program is doing the deed as well. It can be
anything. But as window-eyes is concern at my end, its picking up those edit
boxes.


regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of kitty hevener via Talk
Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 4:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: problematic website, need help please

Hi, I can’t find anything on this login screen that allows me to enter my
username and password.  I see the words “log in” as a heading and those same
words above the heading.  Am using we 9.2 and ie 11.  Also tried ie 10
before installing ie 11.  I have tried hitting enter on the “heading” label,
routing the mouse pointer to the pc cursor to single and double click with
left mouse button and single click with right mouse button.  No success.
Also tried firefox but no luck.  Please help as I need my fantasy football
fix, smile!

Here is the troublesome website
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/signin?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fgames.espn.go.com%2Fffl%2Fclubhouse%3FteamId%3D11%26leagueId%3D317107%26seasonId%3D2014
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Re: problematic website, need help please

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi Chris, o this leads me to believe that I must not have something in ie or 
we set properly.  Below the link for "free fantasy football", I see "login" 
and then under that, I see a heading that says "login".


If I can manage to beat the firefox message about shockwave not responding, 
I have made a bit more progress.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Grabowski via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:33 PM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

Hi,
I can also get to them running ie11.
Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 4:52 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

I just tried with firefox,IE and chrome, I can find the two box, username 
and password.



Maybe the java script or some browser plugin which that particular website 
needs its disable at your end in IE.
Or maybe your security program is doing the deed as well. It can be 
anything. But as window-eyes is concern at my end, its picking up those edit 
boxes.



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of kitty hevener via Talk

Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 4:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: problematic website, need help please

Hi, I can’t find anything on this login screen that allows me to enter my 
username and password.  I see the words “log in” as a heading and those same 
words above the heading.  Am using we 9.2 and ie 11.  Also tried ie 10 
before installing ie 11.  I have tried hitting enter on the “heading” label, 
routing the mouse pointer to the pc cursor to single and double click with 
left mouse button and single click with right mouse button.  No success. 
Also tried firefox but no luck.  Please help as I need my fantasy football 
fix, smile!


Here is the troublesome website
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/signin?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fgames.espn.go.com%2Fffl%2Fclubhouse%3FteamId%3D11%26leagueId%3D317107%26seasonId%3D2014
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Re: NFL audio pass

[kitty hevener via Talk]

yes, I have written to them and get back that the audiopass is no longer 
available.  They are pushing gamepass.  Still trying to find out if that 
package offers an option for listening to live radio broadcasts and whether 
it is accessible to screen reading software.  So far, no response.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:50 AM
To: Ray Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: NFL audio pass

Wow, that's allot more then the 40 bucks I paid last year for my Audio Pass.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Ray Campbell via Talk 
 wrote:


Hi Terry and all:

I was wondering about that.  I went to www.nfl.com/audiopass, and it 
appears

they're pushing something called GamePass which includes Audio and Video
feeds.  It costs $99 per year.

HTH,


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ray153056=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Terry Chaney via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:23 AM
To: window eyes list 
Subject: NFL audio pass

I talked with someone at the NFL who told me that they will no longer be
supplying audio pass.  This was a service that allow you to listen to NFL
teams using the home feeds of the individual radio broadcasts of the 
teams.

It's great if you want to follow a team that isn't in your area.
 Anyway, if someone stumbles onto another source for home team radio
coverage on the net I'd like to know.  Terry Chaney
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Re: NFL audio pass

[kitty hevener via Talk]

What is radium?  Does it work with we 9.2 and windows 7?

-Original Message- 
From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:51 AM
To: Terry Chaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: NFL audio pass

Thank goodness for Sirius-XM radio and specifically thank goodness for
Radium which makes Sirius-XM easy to use.  They have both home and away
feeds for all NFL games including the post season.

Don Roberts


On 8/10/2015 4:23 AM, Terry Chaney via Talk wrote:
I talked with someone at the NFL who told me that they will no longer be 
supplying audio pass.  This was a service that allow you to listen to NFL 
teams using the home feeds of the individual radio broadcasts of the 
teams.  It's great if you want to follow a team that isn't in your area. 
Anyway, if someone stumbles onto another source for home team radio 
coverage on the net I'd like to know.  Terry Chaney

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Re: problematic website, need help please

[kitty hevener via Talk]

thomas, thanks.  hmm, now am really stumped.  Any suggestions on what 
specific settings need to be changed and where they are would be 
appreciated.  Am using malware bytes and microsoft security essentials.


-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:52 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: problematic website, need help please

I just tried with firefox,IE and chrome, I can find the two box, username 
and password.



Maybe the java script or some browser plugin which that particular website 
needs its disable at your end in IE.
Or maybe your security program is doing the deed as well. It can be 
anything. But as window-eyes is concern at my end, its picking up those edit 
boxes.



regards
Thomas N. Chan
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[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of kitty hevener via Talk

Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 4:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: problematic website, need help please

Hi, I can’t find anything on this login screen that allows me to enter my 
username and password.  I see the words “log in” as a heading and those same 
words above the heading.  Am using we 9.2 and ie 11.  Also tried ie 10 
before installing ie 11.  I have tried hitting enter on the “heading” label, 
routing the mouse pointer to the pc cursor to single and double click with 
left mouse button and single click with right mouse button.  No success. 
Also tried firefox but no luck.  Please help as I need my fantasy football 
fix, smile!


Here is the troublesome website
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/signin?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fgames.espn.go.com%2Fffl%2Fclubhouse%3FteamId%3D11%26leagueId%3D317107%26seasonId%3D2014
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problematic website, need help please

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Hi, I can’t find anything on this login screen that allows me to enter my 
username and password.  I see the words “log in” as a heading and those same 
words above the heading.  Am using we 9.2 and ie 11.  Also tried ie 10 before 
installing ie 11.  I have tried hitting enter on the “heading” label, routing 
the mouse pointer to the pc cursor to single and double click with left mouse 
button and single click with right mouse button.  No success.  Also tried 
firefox but no luck.  Please help as I need my fantasy football fix, smile!

Here is the troublesome website
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/signin?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fgames.espn.go.com%2Fffl%2Fclubhouse%3FteamId%3D11%26leagueId%3D317107%26seasonId%3D2014
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