Re: Forbes article on windows 7
IN my case, I have a Asus computer and have two options. 1. Have someone make a change in the bios settings. 2. upgrade to windows 10. -Original Message- From: Evan Reese Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 10:05 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 Okay, so it basically comes down to a question of what Microsoft knew and when they knew it. One author claims that Microsoft didn't see the problem, the other claims they knew about it and changed the update from Optional to Recommended anyway. I don't know whether there is any way to settle that. But whatever the case, there is still ample evidence, including quoted statements from Microsoft's marketing director that someone posted here, that Microsoft is using some questionable tactics to get people to move to Windows 10. Evan -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 9:57 AM To: Van Lant, Robin ; Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 From another list: This is a legitimate problem and for another perspective, see this article. This author doesn't blame Microsoft and comparing the perspectives is interesting. I take no position on which one is correct. but it's worth noting that the respected author of this article does take a different position as to blame. http://www.infoworld.com/article/3065487/microsoft-windows/recommended-kb-3133977-patch-can-cause-asus-pcs-to-freeze.html Gene -Original Message- From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:59 AM To: Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Forbes article on windows 7 Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visi
RE: Forbes article on windows 7
All there is making people like me that don't want to not want it more. I'll quit running updates. This is not advisable but I'll avoid there crap by doing that. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:06 PM To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 Okay, so it basically comes down to a question of what Microsoft knew and when they knew it. One author claims that Microsoft didn't see the problem, the other claims they knew about it and changed the update from Optional to Recommended anyway. I don't know whether there is any way to settle that. But whatever the case, there is still ample evidence, including quoted statements from Microsoft's marketing director that someone posted here, that Microsoft is using some questionable tactics to get people to move to Windows 10. Evan -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 9:57 AM To: Van Lant, Robin ; Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 From another list: This is a legitimate problem and for another perspective, see this article. This author doesn't blame Microsoft and comparing the perspectives is interesting. I take no position on which one is correct. but it's worth noting that the respected author of this article does take a different position as to blame. http://www.infoworld.com/article/3065487/microsoft-windows/recommended-kb-3133977-patch-can-cause-asus-pcs-to-freeze.html Gene -Original Message- From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:59 AM To: Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Forbes article on windows 7 Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai S
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
Okay, so it basically comes down to a question of what Microsoft knew and when they knew it. One author claims that Microsoft didn't see the problem, the other claims they knew about it and changed the update from Optional to Recommended anyway. I don't know whether there is any way to settle that. But whatever the case, there is still ample evidence, including quoted statements from Microsoft's marketing director that someone posted here, that Microsoft is using some questionable tactics to get people to move to Windows 10. Evan -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 9:57 AM To: Van Lant, Robin ; Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 From another list: This is a legitimate problem and for another perspective, see this article. This author doesn't blame Microsoft and comparing the perspectives is interesting. I take no position on which one is correct. but it's worth noting that the respected author of this article does take a different position as to blame. http://www.infoworld.com/article/3065487/microsoft-windows/recommended-kb-3133977-patch-can-cause-asus-pcs-to-freeze.html Gene -Original Message- From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:59 AM To: Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Forbes article on windows 7 Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not neces
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
From another list: This is a legitimate problem and for another perspective, see this article. This author doesn't blame Microsoft and comparing the perspectives is interesting. I take no position on which one is correct. but it's worth noting that the respected author of this article does take a different position as to blame. http://www.infoworld.com/article/3065487/microsoft-windows/recommended-kb-3133977-patch-can-cause-asus-pcs-to-freeze.html Gene -Original Message- From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:59 AM To: Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Forbes article on windows 7 Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
Okay, here's the text of the article. Don't know whether the links in the article will come through, but you'll at least be able to read the text. And I haven't edited out the ads, so you'll just need to arrow down through them and pick up the thread on the other side. Earlier this year Microsoft MSFT +0.15% warned users that Windows 7 has serious problems . I dismissed its claims as a desperate attempt to shift copies of Windows 10 (and I still do), but now Microsoft has warned of a new serious Windows 7 problem that is very real – even though it makes no sense whatsoever… In short: Microsoft has made a seemingly small yet completely bizarre tweak to Windows Update on Windows 7 and confirmed it is crippling many users’ PCs. The tweak? It switched the status of Windows 7 update KB3133977 from ‘Optional’ to ‘Recommended’. The bizarre part? Despite acknowledging the problems, Microsoft knew they would occur in advance and it has no plans to do anything about it. Windows 7 users are being pushed to upgrade to Windows 10. Image credit: Gordon Kelly Windows 7 users are being pushed to upgrade to Windows 10. Image credit: Gordon Kelly Ok, let’s put some meat on these bones. PCs That Suddenly Won’t Start It all centres around Asus motherboards. Now 27 years old, Asus is one of the largest PC component makers and supplies motherboards to many of the world’s biggest PC makers. Recently it enabled Secure Boot in UEFI on all its motherboards. This wasn’t a problem for older PCs because Windows 7 didn’t support Secure Boot, that is until KB3133977 came along in March and enabled it. Recommended by Forbes 'Free' Windows 10 Reveals Its Expensive Secret Microsoft Abandons 'Windows 8': Everything You Need To Know Microsoft Reveals Real Cost Of 'Free' Windows 10 Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has Serious Problems Most Popular Photos: The Most Expensive Home Listing in Every State 2016 Most Popular Photos: Donald Trump Through The Years Most Popular WWE's Most Overpaid And Underpaid Superstars Initially the fallout was small. Asus confirmed the problem, Microsoft confirmed the problem. But the best news was KB3133977 was an optional Windows 7 update so it had to be manually installed to take effect. The solution was simple: just steer clear of KB3133977 (aka do nothing) and you’d be fine. Then last month – for some bizarre reason – Microsoft made KB3133977 a ‘Recommended’ update. The result was every user running Windows 7 and default Windows Update settings (the vast majority) would find the update now installed automatically. And then everyone with an Asus motherboard was hit. Read more – Windows 10 ‘Anniversary Update’ Has Great Secret Features A Global Problem As InfoWorld’s Windows expert Woody Leonhard notes “I’m now seeing problems reported from all over the globe about Windows 7 machines that suddenly won’t boot”. Affected machines simply show a red box which says: The Windows 7 warning screen hitting PC owners with Asus motherboards who install update KB3133977. Image credit: Asus The Windows 7 warning screen hitting PC owners with Asus motherboards who install update KB3133977. Image credit: Asus All of which does nothing to pinpoint the problem or solve it for those without a second secured boot device. In short: you’d be screwed. The Good News And Staying Safe The good news is Asus has now issued a workaround to get PCs booting up again. Furthermore Asus must take some of the blame for not reacting faster when KB3133977 presented a potential landmine and issuing new updates to its motherboards. How do you know if you have an Asus motherboard in your Windows 7 PC? Go to: All Programs > Accessories > System Tools and select System Information . This will list your PC’s components, including the motherboard. One downside: some major PC makers like Dell and HP rebrand the motherboard as the computer’s model number. In which case you should do a web search on your model or call the manufacturer directly. The Bad News And What Comes Next As for the bad news? It’s Microsoft’s reaction. On the plus side, Microsoft did update the support document for KB3133977 with a warning which states: “After you install update 3133977 on a Windows 7 x64-based system that includes an Asus-based main board, the system does not start”. But Microsoft also uses the document an opportunity to promote upgrades to Windows 10: Microsoft's KB3133977 support page now advises users to install Windows 10 to fix their problems. Image credit: Microsoft Microsoft’s KB3133977 support page now advises users to install Windows 10 to fix their problems. Image credit: Microsoft Microsoft has also done nothing to modify KB3133977 or release a new patch so users with Asus motherboards don’t run into this problem in the first place. Furthermore, at the time of publishing, KB3133977 remains a ‘Recommended’ in Windows Update for Windows 7. Needless to say, conspiracy theorists will have a ball seeing it as yet
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
I'm still not sure what the article said cause I couldn't really access it. Something about a bootup problem or some such? can someone give us a short version of what it says? On 5/5/2016 3:14 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: It got me there, and it was interesting. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:23 PM To: Van Lant, Robin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 Just to make sure that you go directly to the article, here is the link as I copied it from the IE address bar. I hope it gets you there. It looks like it might be a bit broken up in this message, so you might have to do a bit of work to piece it together. When you get there, try typing in "earlier this year," without the quotes, and you should get to the beginning of the text. HTH, Larry http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#35e8a3e0395e On 5/5/2016 11:59 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
Yup, got it. Doesn't surprise me at all. Evan -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:23 PM To: Van Lant, Robin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 Just to make sure that you go directly to the article, here is the link as I copied it from the IE address bar. I hope it gets you there. It looks like it might be a bit broken up in this message, so you might have to do a bit of work to piece it together. When you get there, try typing in "earlier this year," without the quotes, and you should get to the beginning of the text. HTH, Larry http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#35e8a3e0395e On 5/5/2016 11:59 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mentat1%40dslextreme.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent tho
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
It got me there, and it was interesting. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:23 PM To: Van Lant, Robin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes article on windows 7 Just to make sure that you go directly to the article, here is the link as I copied it from the IE address bar. I hope it gets you there. It looks like it might be a bit broken up in this message, so you might have to do a bit of work to piece it together. When you get there, try typing in "earlier this year," without the quotes, and you should get to the beginning of the text. HTH, Larry http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#35e8a3e0395e On 5/5/2016 11:59 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
Ah yes, I meant that you should type what I suggested into your WE find box. I'm pretty sure you all knew that, but just for the sake of clarity ... On 5/5/2016 12:23 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Just to make sure that you go directly to the article, here is the link as I copied it from the IE address bar. I hope it gets you there. It looks like it might be a bit broken up in this message, so you might have to do a bit of work to piece it together. When you get there, try typing in "earlier this year," without the quotes, and you should get to the beginning of the text. HTH, Larry http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#35e8a3e0395e On 5/5/2016 11:59 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
Just to make sure that you go directly to the article, here is the link as I copied it from the IE address bar. I hope it gets you there. It looks like it might be a bit broken up in this message, so you might have to do a bit of work to piece it together. When you get there, try typing in "earlier this year," without the quotes, and you should get to the beginning of the text. HTH, Larry http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#35e8a3e0395e On 5/5/2016 11:59 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Forbes article on windows 7
Glad to hear I'm not the only one having a hard time reading this web page. I've tried it in Firefox and IE 11 with very little success. Next option is on my phone with Safari. What am I missing on how to navigate this page? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:42 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: Forbes article on windows 7 So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Forbes article on windows 7
Yes, I am also using Windows 7 because Dell told me I could not upgrade my six-year-old PC to Windows 10. I am interested in the report also. Carol On 5/5/2016 10:42 AM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Forbes article on windows 7
So.. I went to the site three times and couldn't get to the article. Could somebody summarize it? I'm using Windows 7 and really like it, with 9.4 w.e. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
