RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Trish, Here is a link to the Microsoft blog post that provides all of the publicly available information on this topic: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/05/06/accessibility-and-the-windows-10-free-upgrade/. It basically states that the deadline won't apply to people who use assistive technology and that you need to stay tuned for more details on the free offer. Best, Marc -Original Message- From: Patricia Krinke [mailto:krinke1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:52 PM To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Mark, Would you please give us the address to sign up for the extension date of Windows 10 for accessibility? Thanks, Trish -Original Message- From: Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read more here: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on-accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: > Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free > until july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how > it went including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. > Rick USA > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40aisquared.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/krinke1968%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Sure. But keep in mind that these issues aren't specific to Windows 10 or Office 2016. From time to time, when you first open an Office document, there is a focus issue which prevents Window-Eyes from reading anything. The workaround is to focus the Desktop (press Windows Key+D) and then move focus back to the Office application using Alt+Tab. I also find that Window-Eyes does not always announce the focused item when you open the context menu in Word. The workaround is to go to the next menu item with Down Arrow and then move back up with Up Arrow. You could also use the read current line or speak summary hotkey to announce the first menu item. Best, Marc -Original Message- From: Peter Duran [mailto:peterduran2...@outlook.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 11:51 AM To: Marc Solomon ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Hello again "But, there were a few intermittent issues that had to be worked around." Can you give us a list of those issues and workarounds so we don't have to figure out them ourselves? Pthanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Marc Solomon [mailto:msolo...@aisquared.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:44 AM To: Peter Duran; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Hi Peter, Since Microsoft Office includes standalone applications that are not part of the Windows 10 operating system, I don't believe the Windows 10 Anniversary Update will have a major impact on their current level of accessibility. I just taught a three day class using Windows 10 and Office 2016. Overall, the applications played well with the screen reader and provided a similar experience compared to using older versions of Office and Windows. But, there were a few intermittent issues that had to be worked around. Best, Marc -Original Message- From: Peter Duran [mailto:peterduran2...@outlook.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:17 AM To: Marc Solomon ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Hello Mark Thanks for the link to the Accessibility Blog; MS is indeed committed to accessible products for all users. I remember when Bill Gates announced the commitment during a developer's conference at Microsoft many years ago when Doug and Dan were much younger. The mentioned improvements to Narrator, Edge, and so on are impressive! But what is the state of accessibility to Office apps (Word, Excel, etc.) with Narrator and Window-Eyes in the to-be-released Windows 10 update on August 2, 2016? Afterall, Office accdessibility is a cornerstone to success in college and business. Thanks, Peter Duran -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read more here: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on -accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: > Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free > until july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how > it went including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. > Rick USA > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40ais quared.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peterduran2015 %40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Square
Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Mark, Would you please give us the address to sign up for the extension date of Windows 10 for accessibility? Thanks, Trish -Original Message- From: Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read more here: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on-accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free until july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how it went including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/krinke1968%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Hi Peter, Since Microsoft Office includes standalone applications that are not part of the Windows 10 operating system, I don't believe the Windows 10 Anniversary Update will have a major impact on their current level of accessibility. I just taught a three day class using Windows 10 and Office 2016. Overall, the applications played well with the screen reader and provided a similar experience compared to using older versions of Office and Windows. But, there were a few intermittent issues that had to be worked around. Best, Marc -Original Message- From: Peter Duran [mailto:peterduran2...@outlook.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:17 AM To: Marc Solomon ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Hello Mark Thanks for the link to the Accessibility Blog; MS is indeed committed to accessible products for all users. I remember when Bill Gates announced the commitment during a developer's conference at Microsoft many years ago when Doug and Dan were much younger. The mentioned improvements to Narrator, Edge, and so on are impressive! But what is the state of accessibility to Office apps (Word, Excel, etc.) with Narrator and Window-Eyes in the to-be-released Windows 10 update on August 2, 2016? Afterall, Office accdessibility is a cornerstone to success in college and business. Thanks, Peter Duran -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read more here: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on -accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: > Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free > until july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how > it went including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. > Rick USA > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40ais quared.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peterduran2015 %40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Hello Mark Thanks for the link to the Accessibility Blog; MS is indeed committed to accessible products for all users. I remember when Bill Gates announced the commitment during a developer's conference at Microsoft many years ago when Doug and Dan were much younger. The mentioned improvements to Narrator, Edge, and so on are impressive! But what is the state of accessibility to Office apps (Word, Excel, etc.) with Narrator and Window-Eyes in the to-be-released Windows 10 update on August 2, 2016? Afterall, Office accdessibility is a cornerstone to success in college and business. Thanks, Peter Duran -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read more here: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on -accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: > Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free until > july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how it went > including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. > Rick USA > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40ais quared.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peterduran2015 %40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
I read somewhere with this update, edge will work with window eyes. RJ On 7/26/2016 7:25 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote: > Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for > persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on > August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting > closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read > more here: > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on-accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. > Marc > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk > wrote: > >> Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free until >> july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how it went >> including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. >> Rick USA >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40aisquared.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/manbatsandefur%40outlook.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Microsoft has extended the free Windows 10 upgrade offer beyond July 29 for persons with disabilities. They are also planning a big anniversary update on August 2 that includes numerous accessibility improvements. Edge is getting closer to becoming compatible with third party screen readers. You can read more here: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2016/07/01/making-progress-on-accessibility-with-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 26, 2016 5:26:33 AM Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: > Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free until > july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how it went > including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. > Rick USA > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40aisquared.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Free Windows 10 Upgrade
No, Rick, Edge is still barely accessible from a blindness perspective. IE11 is still here to stay for a while. I've read mixed reports regarding the upgrade to Windows10; for some, it's been great, for many others, it's neither here nor there! I personally DO NOT care about upgrading to Windows10 right now. What I have and need for work in particular is still working and I am not about to break it and start all over. May be I am paranoid, but it's a bread and butter issue for me presently! With Window-Eyes on the bunsen burner and/or in the cooler, it behooves me to be somewhat careful and take my plunge slowly. I have read here and there that Microsoft will be extending the deadline for individuals who use screen readers and other adaptive technology to access the computer. That being the case, unless it is absolutely important for you, I'll recommend waiting just to see how and where Microsoft swings the pendulum. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Free Windows 10 Upgrade
Hi: I run windows 8.1 and understand the Windows 10 upgrade is free until july 29 so wonder if anyone has upgraded to windows 10 and how it went including the new, supposedly more accessible, Edge browser. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
