RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hello Olusegun, At no point in my statement did I attack freedom of expression, only if the signature was appropriate for this list. I, too, fully believe that freedom of expression is a human right which should not be denied to anyone. In the UK it is apparent from our own news channels, the various US news media that we have access to and Americans I know very well that there is still a level of controversy about the current US head of state. In light of that the signature I have questioned is an overtly political statement which not all US citizens would agree with. That was my sole reason for questioning the validity of the signature. I suggest that the subject should be dropped from this list. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. [mailto:ukekearu...@valtdnet.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 1:32 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Hello Mr. Farley: Freedom of Expression, Speech, Assembly, Religion and a trillion other freedoms exist. That's the case at least in a Western plural democracy to which many of us subscribe either by doctrine, or through whatever informed decisions we elect to make. The only freedom humans do not have is FREEDOM FROM DEATH! If they do, the most powerful and well-situated ones amongst us would have purchased it all for themselves and their heirs alive and yet unborn! So, sire, let whatever FREEDOM there is ring from the hilltops, through the prairies, mountains, cliffs, lakes, rivers, oceans near and far, below and above the sky, and everywhere humans dare to set their feet. It is true that my freedom begins where the first person's stops; however, NOT very many humans recognise this for a fact and the cacophonous rumblings continue. Let FREEDOM ring; let each person elect to hear the pealing sounds of its bell, or else ignore. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
To be fair the first amendment only applies to any infringement by the state (I'm sure you know this already). Regarding this matter, it can allow or sensor what it deems to be inappropriate speech. So far, it has not so... On 6/4/2017 8:32 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: > Hello Mr. Farley: > > Freedom of Expression, Speech, Assembly, Religion and a trillion other > freedoms exist. That's the case at least in a Western plural democracy to > which many of us subscribe either by doctrine, or through whatever informed > decisions we elect to make. > > The only freedom humans do not have is FREEDOM FROM DEATH! If they do, the > most powerful and well-situated ones amongst us would have purchased it all > for themselves and their heirs alive and yet unborn! So, sire, let whatever > FREEDOM there is ring from the hilltops, through the prairies, mountains, > cliffs, lakes, rivers, oceans near and far, below and above the sky, and > everywhere humans dare to set their feet. > > It is true that my freedom begins where the first person's stops; however, > NOT very many humans recognise this for a fact and the cacophonous rumblings > continue. Let FREEDOM ring; let each person elect to hear the pealing > sounds of its bell, or else ignore. > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hello Mr. Farley: Freedom of Expression, Speech, Assembly, Religion and a trillion other freedoms exist. That's the case at least in a Western plural democracy to which many of us subscribe either by doctrine, or through whatever informed decisions we elect to make. The only freedom humans do not have is FREEDOM FROM DEATH! If they do, the most powerful and well-situated ones amongst us would have purchased it all for themselves and their heirs alive and yet unborn! So, sire, let whatever FREEDOM there is ring from the hilltops, through the prairies, mountains, cliffs, lakes, rivers, oceans near and far, below and above the sky, and everywhere humans dare to set their feet. It is true that my freedom begins where the first person's stops; however, NOT very many humans recognise this for a fact and the cacophonous rumblings continue. Let FREEDOM ring; let each person elect to hear the pealing sounds of its bell, or else ignore. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
It really has no place here, but lots of things have no place here. On 6/4/2017 1:28 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > Seems like a suitable sign off to me. On Sat, 3 Jun 2017, Dennis Long > via Talk wrote: > >> Oh come on quit griping create a gripers list they will be happy to hear >> your complaints >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk >> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:57 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts >> >> Hello list, >> >> While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of >> this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following >> sign-off >> really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for >> visually impaired people all trying to help each other. >> I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members >> political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such >> statements. >> >> >> Now follows the sign-off: >> >> >> From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America >> First. >> President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 >> >> btinternet.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 >> >> gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. Seems like a suitable sign off to me. On Sat, 3 Jun 2017, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: Oh come on quit griping create a gripers list they will be happy to hear your complaints -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Hello list, While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following sign-off really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for visually impaired people all trying to help each other. I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such statements. Now follows the sign-off: From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Oh come on quit griping create a gripers list they will be happy to hear your complaints -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Hello list, While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following sign-off really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for visually impaired people all trying to help each other. I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such statements. Now follows the sign-off: >From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hello list, While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following sign-off really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for visually impaired people all trying to help each other. I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such statements. Now follows the sign-off: >From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
