Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
Sorry, butch. I'm not using the desktop app. I just use it on my iPhone. Good luck, Tom On 11/30/2017 9:56 AM, BK via Talk wrote: Tom, since you have had success with the knfb reader, please let me know what camera you are using? Please include brand and model and where I can purchase one? Thank you much. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
Tom, since you have had success with the knfb reader, please let me know what camera you are using? Please include brand and model and where I can purchase one? Thank you much. Butch -- BK ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
I took a lot of time thinking about if I should buy a second generation victor reader stream. I ended up buying a ipad mini. Here's why: It has more volume and better sound than my ipod touch 5th generation, first generation victor reader stream booksense and plextalk pocket. It does everything I would do with a specialized player and a lot more. With being able to lock the screen while playing audio content, I get much more play time than with my specialized players. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 3:04 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? I also couldn't get the hang of gestures on an Ipod or Ipone. So dumped them. Got a Snapfon ad a Victor Stream. Marvelous. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't r
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
The 5th generation will work with KNFB reader. It's true that the 6th generation has a better camera. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.†-- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I've never heard of a snapphone, but I most definitely don't have an iPhone. Pam. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:47 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? A Snapfon is a simple cell phone. It is made for seniors thus has large numbers and button that are well spaced apart for easy feeling. Easy for the blind. It is not an Iphone. Just a simple, inexpensive cell phone for those of us who do not need an expensive Iphone. It announces the numbers as you press them. Unfortunately it does not talk to set the functions. You will need a sighted person to help with that. If you are happy with your Iphone, then forget it. But if you are looking for a simple cell phone, this is it. I had an Iphone for 3 years and never could learn to use it. So I dumped it. It has nothing to do with a Victor Reader. I just mentioned that I got one of those also. If anyone is interested in looking at the Snapfon, go to: https://www.snapfon.com/big-button-cell-phone/ -Bob -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:36 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? What is a snapfone? Also, what do that and a victor stream have to do with the reader? Pam. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:04 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? I also couldn't get the hang of gestures on an Ipod or Ipone. So dumped them. Got a Snapfon ad a Victor Stream. Marvelous. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think be
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
The KNFB reader will work with both a 5th and a 6th generation ipod touch. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 7:01 AM To: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.c
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I found the scan box I use. It's called StandScan Pro and is $49.95. http://standscan.com/ On 11/23/2017 10:35 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29 or 39 bucks. something like that. I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept any notes on it. I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or long documents. But they work good. Regards, Tom On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo
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Yeah, I was amazed the first time I tried reading a can label. I was sure it wouldn't be able to read text from a curved surface. It may take a few tries. But eventually I get it. And if the stars are lined up I get it on the first shot. There are also bar code reading apps designed to do the same thing. But then you're really in the same position trying to find the bar code. The benefit to those is that if the product is in the database you may get all kinds of information on it, i.e. ingredients, nutritional information, cooking instructions, etc. On 11/23/2017 8:43 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: It will read the label. However, you may need to reposition the can to get allo the contents, and take another picture. The description is not perfect, but you will at least have an idea of what is in the can. -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Hi, Just a little question. Can the knfb reader read a label on a can of soup, just as an example? I have been told yes as well as no. Would really appreciate a straight answer on this. Thanks so much. Norene -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:35 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29 or 39 bucks. something like that. I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept any notes on it. I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or long documents. But they work good. Regards, Tom On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's
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A Snapfon is a simple cell phone. It is made for seniors thus has large numbers and button that are well spaced apart for easy feeling. Easy for the blind. It is not an Iphone. Just a simple, inexpensive cell phone for those of us who do not need an expensive Iphone. It announces the numbers as you press them. Unfortunately it does not talk to set the functions. You will need a sighted person to help with that. If you are happy with your Iphone, then forget it. But if you are looking for a simple cell phone, this is it. I had an Iphone for 3 years and never could learn to use it. So I dumped it. It has nothing to do with a Victor Reader. I just mentioned that I got one of those also. If anyone is interested in looking at the Snapfon, go to: https://www.snapfon.com/big-button-cell-phone/ -Bob -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:36 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? What is a snapfone? Also, what do that and a victor stream have to do with the reader? Pam. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:04 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? I also couldn't get the hang of gestures on an Ipod or Ipone. So dumped them. Got a Snapfon ad a Victor Stream. Marvelous. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It&
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What is a snapfone? Also, what do that and a victor stream have to do with the reader? Pam. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:04 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? I also couldn't get the hang of gestures on an Ipod or Ipone. So dumped them. Got a Snapfon ad a Victor Stream. Marvelous. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.†-- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squ
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Yes, I have read packages and labels when my bar code reader won't. It sometimes takes a long time, though. Pam. -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Hi, Just a little question. Can the knfb reader read a label on a can of soup, just as an example? I have been told yes as well as no. Would really appreciate a straight answer on this. Thanks so much. Norene -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:35 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29 or 39 bucks. something like that. I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept any notes on it. I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or long documents. But they work good. Regards, Tom On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, i
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If you can't do jestures, don't waste your money on a new one. I still have my Nokia n95, and the n82 that somebody gave me. Neither one of them is active as a phone, but the readers in them still work. Pam. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.†-- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/
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It will read the label. However, you may need to reposition the can to get allo the contents, and take another picture. The description is not perfect, but you will at least have an idea of what is in the can. -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Hi, Just a little question. Can the knfb reader read a label on a can of soup, just as an example? I have been told yes as well as no. Would really appreciate a straight answer on this. Thanks so much. Norene -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:35 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29 or 39 bucks. something like that. I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept any notes on it. I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or long documents. But they work good. Regards, Tom On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateu
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I also couldn't get the hang of gestures on an Ipod or Ipone. So dumped them. Got a Snapfon ad a Victor Stream. Marvelous. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Butch Bussen ; Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.†-- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found
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Hi, Just a little question. Can the knfb reader read a label on a can of soup, just as an example? I have been told yes as well as no. Would really appreciate a straight answer on this. Thanks so much. Norene -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:35 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29 or 39 bucks. something like that. I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept any notes on it. I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or long documents. But they work good. Regards, Tom On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do
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Thanks much. Well, it is like anything, if you know how it is simple. I've messed with my i pod a good bit and just can't get the hang of jestures. Give me buttons. I may look for a newer ipod just for the reader. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phones touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV ???If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.??? -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net.
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Touch screens are easy to use. And if your ipod is 3 or 4 years old its camera probably is not good enough for knfb reader. You need a new one. A new ipod touch 6th gen. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 14:08 To: Josh Kennedy Cc: Josh Kennedy via Talk Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Butch Bussen > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 > To: Josh Kennedy via Talk > Cc: Josh Kennedy > Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? > > I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what > version of firmware I have. > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk > wrote: > >> Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. >> Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you >> got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how >> do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you >> go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the >> page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure >> you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the >> page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the >> phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen >> reader: >> >> All four corners of the page are visible. >> >> Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture >> button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads >> the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast >> with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Robert Ringwald via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Robert Ringwald >> Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? >> >> But what does it do? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Josh Kennedy via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Josh Kennedy >> Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? >> >> I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Tom Kingston via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 >> To: Josh Kennedy via Talk >> Cc: Tom Kingston >> Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? >> >> And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone >> and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document >> reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on >> gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your >> computer screen or any other kind of display. >> There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but >> doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. >> Regards, >> Tom >> >> >> On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: >>> Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on >>> windows10 devices. >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Robert Ringwald via Talk >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 >>> To: Talk >>> Cc: Robert Ringwald >>> Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? >>> >>> I see it is on sale. >>> >>> Can you read PDFs with it? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet >>> Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) >>> 916/ 806-9551 >>> Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV >>> >>> “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, >>> if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.†-- Mark Twain >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinion
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How would I know. I think it is an ipod touch, five I think. I've had it 3 or 4 years I think. I don't use it much at all, can't get use to touch screens. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy wrote: Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone???s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV ???If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.??? -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://list
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Yes. I got a couple stands. One is a little tripod with a spring loaded slide clamp to hold the phone. The other is a laminated cardboard box that was originally designed for folks needing to scan documents while traveling on business. It folds up flat and when you expand it magnets hold it together. So you sit the phone on top with the camera looking through a peep whole and put what you want to scan in the box. There's two models. One with a little set of LED lights inside and the other without. It can use a battery or AC power. And it wasn't expensive. 29 or 39 bucks. something like that. I can't remember the name of it. But I'll look around to see if I kept any notes on it. I don't use either much because I don't have the need to scan books or long documents. But they work good. Regards, Tom On 11/23/2017 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com __
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Yes if the ipod has 8mp camera with flash then it will work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Butch Bussen Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 09:56 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: > Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. > Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you > got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how > do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you > go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the > page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure > you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. > Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s > touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: > > All four corners of the page are visible. > > Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture > button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads > the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast > with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Robert Ringwald via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Robert Ringwald > Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? > > But what does it do? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Josh Kennedy via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Josh Kennedy > Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? > > I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Tom Kingston via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 > To: Josh Kennedy via Talk > Cc: Tom Kingston > Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? > > And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone > and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document > reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on > gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your > computer screen or any other kind of display. > There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but > doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. > Regards, > Tom > > > On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: >> Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on >> windows10 devices. >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Robert Ringwald via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 >> To: Talk >> Cc: Robert Ringwald >> Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? >> >> I see it is on sale. >> >> Can you read PDFs with it? >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet >> Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) >> 916/ 806-9551 >> Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV >> >> “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, >> if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/
RE: What is a KNFB Reader?
I don't have an i phone, will it work with an i pod? Not sure what version of firmware I have. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
Did you get a stand? I hear using a stand makes it a lot easier when scanning a book etc. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:00 PM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http:
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
It takes a picture and reads printed material. I hate to ask, but where have you been all this time? It has been out for ages, and has been talked about a lot! Pam. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be
RE: What is a KNFB Reader?
Robert, The KNFB reader uses a camera in a phone or other divice to take a picture of a document. Then, it performs optical character recognition (OCR) and reads the content. Its strongest point is that it performs the OCR in such a way that it can start reading very quickly. As Josh says, it can be made to process files as well. It takes some practice to know how far away from a document to hold the camera and to aim, but there are tools to help with that. There are other OCR apps that are cheaper, but all in all, I've been happy with the KNFB Reader. It does take practice, though. My experience has been regardless of how good an app is, different apps sometimes provide the best results so one needs multiple tools at their disposal. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:12 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: > Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on > windows10 devices. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Robert Ringwald via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 > To: Talk > Cc: Robert Ringwald > Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? > > I see it is on sale. > > Can you read PDFs with it? > > > > > > Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet > Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) > 916/ 806-9551 > Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV > > “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, > if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___
RE: What is a KNFB Reader?
And, in Android land, we have so many apps that work even better than the KNFB Reader for merely pennies on the dollar! I think that in a few years, may be weeks and months, many blind folks in Android land will slowly begin kissing the KNFB Reader goodbye! Heck, there's even one in Android land, though experimental at the moment, that will scan and read handwritten stuff. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
Actually I seldom use the field of view report. It was fine when I first got the app. But once I got used to reasonable placement of the phone for the picture I stopped using it. Then again, I'm usually not using it for critical reading where I need the absolute best. In that situation I would use it. So it's not totally necessary. Just my opinion. regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 7:27 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists
RE: What is a KNFB Reader?
Ok here is how you use knfb reader this is just an example. Imagine you are a student in college. You have some paper handouts that you got from class that you cannot read, you also have a print textbook. So how do you read it? First you unlock your android phone or your iPhone. Then you go into the knnfb reader app. And then you hold the phone a foot above the page. And then you press the field of view report button first making sure you are pointing the camera on the bottom of the phone down towards the page. Then you hit field of view report button you double tap it on the phone’s touch screen. You hear your phone say outloud with its screen reader: All four corners of the page are visible. Then holding the phone as steady as you can, you double tap the take picture button. The phone snaps a photo of the page, does OCR on the text, and reads the text out loud to you. And you can scan whole entire books very very fast with just the 8mp camera on your smartphone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 19:18 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: > Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on > windows10 devices. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Robert Ringwald via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 > To: Talk > Cc: Robert Ringwald > Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? > > I see it is on sale. > > Can you read PDFs with it? > > > > > > Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet > Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) > 916/ 806-9551 > Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV > > “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, > if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
But what does it do? -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: RE: What is a KNFB Reader? I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: What is a KNFB Reader?
I have knfb reader on my android phone and it works great. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 16:03 To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: What is a KNFB Reader? And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: > Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on > windows10 devices. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Robert Ringwald via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 > To: Talk > Cc: Robert Ringwald > Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? > > I see it is on sale. > > Can you read PDFs with it? > > > > > > Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet > Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) > 916/ 806-9551 > Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV > > “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, > if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: What is a KNFB Reader?
And it's a fabulous OCR which is how it started. I have it on my iPhone and can read just about anything imaginable. Think beyond a document reader. I've read food boxes, cans, button labels and serial numbers on gadgets, etc. It also works pretty good when you have to read your computer screen or any other kind of display. There's also a free one from Microsoft called seeing AI. It's useful but doesn't compare to KNFB when it comes right down to it. Regards, Tom On 11/22/2017 2:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: What is a KNFB Reader?
Yes you can read pdfs with it. It works on iPhone and android and on windows10 devices. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 13:12 To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: What is a KNFB Reader? I see it is on sale. Can you read PDFs with it? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joshuakennedy201%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
