RE: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk]

Brenda, wouldn't an app like Four Square which is in the mainstream do for
you what the Sindero Seeing Eye GPS-Xt you're thinking of purchasing?  Of
course I don't know what Sindero will charge you, Convention or not; but why
would you want to pay much more for a GPS app when greater and better
alternatives are available in the mainstream for a lot less?

Anyway, I'd suggest you give a mainstream GPS app a chance before shelling
out those pennies on a specially adapted one.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 


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Re: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Reeva Webb via Talk]

Hims has been on its own and separate from gw micro for a long while now.
So I wouldn't worry about sendero. However I second the recommendation of
nearby explorer. I have it for android and it's worth the $80.

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Jul 14, 2017 8:51 PM, "net bat via Talk" 
wrote:

> take a look at the near by explorer app if you have a i phone or android
> fone.
> or tablet if it has gps built in.
>
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/
> it only costs $80 for the full version.
> if you use the on board maps and points of interest it will not use any
> cellular data so it is low cost to use.
> you could try the free android version. but this one uses  the google maps
> and
> points of interest so it would use cellular data and it is less responsive
> then
> useing the on board data files.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:31 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question
>
> Good evening list
>
> tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came
> across a very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about
> in with the new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more.
> One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use
> one screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
> words) in the voc rehab community.
>
> I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where
> awesome technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.
>
> I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye
> GPS-Xt app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are
> somehow affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used
> to be affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that
> has changed into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more
> support for Book Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.
>
> Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye
> GPs XT app will be short lived?
>
> This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal
> users perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide
> me with some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the
> discounted convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear
> or left unsupported in a few years.
>
> I look forward to any feedback on or off list.
>
> Brenda
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Re: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[net bat via Talk]

take a look at the near by explorer app if you have a i phone or android fone.
or tablet if it has gps built in.

http://tech.aph.org/ne/
it only costs $80 for the full version.
if you use the on board maps and points of interest it will not use any
cellular data so it is low cost to use.
you could try the free android version. but this one uses  the google maps and
points of interest so it would use cellular data and it is less responsive then
useing the on board data files.




-Original Message- 
From: Brenda via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came
across a very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about
in with the new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more.
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use
one screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
words) in the voc rehab community.

I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where
awesome technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.

I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye
GPS-Xt app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are
somehow affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used
to be affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that
has changed into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more
support for Book Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.

Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye
GPs XT app will be short lived?

This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal
users perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide
me with some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the
discounted convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear
or left unsupported in a few years.

I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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RE: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Unfortunately, JAWS was and still is always the screen reader of choice for
voc rehab. Due to this, other products like Window-Eyes had a harder time of
getting to the top due to JAWS having the lead in the market.  The reason
why JAWS came into existence in the first place was that Ted Henter, who
originally developed it, found shortcomings in the other dos products.  He
used one called Vert but he found shortcomings in Vert so he got an investor
and he developed JAWS for dos and then for windows.  There are a lot of
people where I live who have never even tried Window-Eyes before. Some do
own it but the majority of them have always used JAWS right from the start
and they don't see the need to change screen readers. They probably might
stick with JAWS until the day they die.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:32 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came across a
very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about in with the
new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more. 
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use one
screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
words) in the voc rehab community.

I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where awesome
technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.

I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye GPS-Xt
app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are somehow
affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used to be
affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that has changed
into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more support for Book
Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.

Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye GPs XT
app will be short lived?

This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal users
perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide me with
some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the discounted
convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear or left
unsupported in a few years.

I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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RE: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Can you send me the URL for the blind tech podcast?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:32 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came across a
very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about in with the
new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more. 
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use one
screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
words) in the voc rehab community.

I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where awesome
technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.

I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye GPS-Xt
app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are somehow
affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used to be
affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that has changed
into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more support for Book
Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.

Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye GPs XT
app will be short lived?

This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal users
perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide me with
some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the discounted
convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear or left
unsupported in a few years.

I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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