Re: major thunderbird problems

2016-02-28 Thread Jim via Talk 

Hi there!
Try this, When your computer begins saying that gibberish, stop typing 
and press 'CTRL+SHFT+A'.  W.E. should  Make a clicking sound I believe 
it is assending clicks'.  This should illiminate your issue.  Since I am 
totally unable to duplicate your issue here I am only passing this a 
long as a suggestion.  Give it a try and see how it works.  Good Luck! de

.

On 27-Feb-16 11:05, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote:
I am not sure what is happening with tb for you but I have had no 
problems and I am using the latest tb, and win-eyes 9.3.1  I am also 
using windows 10 64 bit.  I am not sure why you are having problems 
but you might want to call for tech help. Rick


On 2/24/2016 11:13 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

guys, i can not deeal with this thunderbird problem.  There hss to be
something wrong.  It's virtually unusable.  Even after someone suggested
i downgrade, it's no better, in fact it's even worse.  I'll start typing
a message, and it just says stuff like no frame, not a valid key press.
  The only way to fix it is to turn browse mode off.  Why should i ahve
to do that, cause then i can't edit anything unless i turn browse mode
back on.  Why would it do this.  I'm typing best, i'm not even on a web
page.  Is anyone else having these issues with TB?Guy
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Re: major thunderbird problems

2016-02-27 Thread Rick Jarvis via Talk 
I am not sure what is happening with tb for you but I have had no 
problems and I am using the latest tb, and win-eyes 9.3.1  I am also 
using windows 10 64 bit.  I am not sure why you are having problems but 
you might want to call for tech help.  Rick


On 2/24/2016 11:13 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

guys, i can not deeal with this thunderbird problem.  There hss to be
something wrong.  It's virtually unusable.  Even after someone suggested
i downgrade, it's no better, in fact it's even worse.  I'll start typing
a message, and it just says stuff like no frame, not a valid key press.
  The only way to fix it is to turn browse mode off.  Why should i ahve
to do that, cause then i can't edit anything unless i turn browse mode
back on.  Why would it do this.  I'm typing best, i'm not even on a web
page.  Is anyone else having these issues with TB?Guy
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Re: major thunderbird problems

2016-02-24 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk 

Browse Mode must be  off when you are writing an e-mail.

On 2/25/2016 12:13 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:
guys, i can not deeal with this thunderbird problem.  There hss to be 
something wrong.  It's virtually unusable.  Even after someone 
suggested i downgrade, it's no better, in fact it's even worse. I'll 
start typing a message, and it just says stuff like no frame, not a 
valid key press.  The only way to fix it is to turn browse mode off.  
Why should i ahve to do that, cause then i can't edit anything unless 
i turn browse mode back on.  Why would it do this.  I'm typing best, 
i'm not even on a web page.  Is anyone else having these issues with 
TB?Guy

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Re: major thunderbird problems

2016-02-15 Thread Robert Byers via Talk 


Hi Alan!

Where may I get an earlier version of Thunderbird?
Although, I think most of my problems are coursed by WE.
Thanks.

Rob.



On 2/15/2016 12:04 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:

Have you tried using an earlier version of tb?

I found the later versions are very buggy so I use version 31 and
occasionally get a weird issue but for the most part it works fine.
On 2/15/2016 8:39 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

Hey guys. I need some help and am hoping someone can shed some light.
I ahve had this problem for the last few months and can't tolerate it
any more.  Thunderbird is losing focus all the time.  When i am typing
a message, i'll be typing along and it'll just start saying as i hit
keys things like no place marker, no frame, not a valid key press.
This is completely unacceptable.  I  have changed a single setting.  I
am running the latest thunderbird, and we 8.4 just cause my computer
is old.  What would cause this and what is the fix?  There has to be a
solution.
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Re: major thunderbird problems

2016-02-15 Thread Alan Siman via Talk 

Have you tried using an earlier version of tb?

I found the later versions are very buggy so I use version 31 and 
occasionally get a weird issue but for the most part it works fine.

On 2/15/2016 8:39 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:
Hey guys. I need some help and am hoping someone can shed some light. 
I ahve had this problem for the last few months and can't tolerate it 
any more.  Thunderbird is losing focus all the time.  When i am typing 
a message, i'll be typing along and it'll just start saying as i hit 
keys things like no place marker, no frame, not a valid key press.  
This is completely unacceptable.  I  have changed a single setting.  I 
am running the latest thunderbird, and we 8.4 just cause my computer 
is old.  What would cause this and what is the fix?  There has to be a 
solution.

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Re: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

2016-01-04 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk 

If you don't hav MS Office, don't you have to buy Outlook?

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 4:38 PM
To: 'Robert Ringwald'
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: FW: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

Hi Bob,

Just in case you missed this, I'm forwarding this to you and the list.


Good luck,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com]
Sent: January 2, 2016 11:17 AM
To: j...@jedbarton.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

Hi Jed,

I'm posting my reply to you to the talk list as well just in case others
might find it of benefit.

By way of a bit of history of my experience of working with email, here
goes.  A few years ago, around 2012, I was forced to transfer all my
archived email from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird due to the fact that I
could no longer reliably edit email in it because of the kind of
accessibility woes you have described.
Later, Thunderbird began displaying similar, yet not so troubling,
accessibility issues; moreover, eventually, Thunderbird became so totally
frustrating as it kept retrieving from my very reputable Bell Canada email
server messages I had repeatedly deleted.
This was the last straw, and, besides, I had always wanted to embrace the
Microsoft Office suite of programs, specifically, Word and Outlook; my major
reason was that the universal use of Office meant that all screen reader
manufacturers would remain committed to ensuring its accessibility for us.
Since my transition to Outlook, I must say that, although I have had my
frustrations with it, it has been very reliable for my email needs.
Outlook also allows me to review my Twitter tweets through the use of a free
add-on (http://www.techhit.com/TwInbox/twitter_plugin_outlook.html), one
which allows me to read them identically to reading email, namely, using
arrow keys in a folder list.
As a Window-Eyes app developer as well, Microsoft Word, in conjunction with
a Window-Eyes app written by Chip Orange
(http://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1238), allows
me to use the VBA integrated development environment to edit my app code in
a very powerful way.
So, with my newest Windows 10 PC, I have subscribed to Office 365 personal,
such that, for seven dollars per month, I have a stable and accessible
software platform.
I hope this answers your question.

All the best for the New Year,

Rod Hutton
Toronto, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 2, 2016 10:36 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: major thunderbird problems

I'm surprised to hear you say this, after everyone on this list suggested
thunderbird.  Can you fill me in why?

On 1/2/2016 7:26 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Jed,

If I might be so bold, you would be happier in the long run if you
switch

to

Outlook.

Sincerely,

Rod Hutton

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On

Behalf

Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: January 1, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: major thunderbird problems

Hey guys, Alright this is a huge issuee, and it's serious.  I have
been having major thunderbird problems, so bad, that for some unknown
reason, it's virtually unusable.  I am running we 8.4, cause my
computer is too slow for 9.3.  I literally made no changes.  I can no
longer focus on the body of an email that i am typing.  When i am
typing, it will randomly say control search mode.  When i arrow up and
down in the message, it literally says nothing.  I have to keep
re-focusing thunderbird, by minimizing everything, then going back to
the message window.  This is obviously unacceptable.  It can not
continue.Does anyone have any ideas of what to do.  I have no idea why
this is happening, and it literally started happening out of nowhere.

It will also start saying while i am typing, stuff like not a vaeven
says stuff like no valid key press, no visited link.Please help.  I
also have to keep turning browse mode on and off, i never had to do
this

before.

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RE: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

2016-01-04 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk 
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:54 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Robert Ringwald' <r...@ringwald.com>
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

If you don't hav MS Office, don't you have to buy Outlook?

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 4:38 PM
To: 'Robert Ringwald'
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: FW: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

Hi Bob,

Just in case you missed this, I'm forwarding this to you and the list.


Good luck,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com]
Sent: January 2, 2016 11:17 AM
To: j...@jedbarton.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

Hi Jed,

I'm posting my reply to you to the talk list as well just in case others
might find it of benefit.

By way of a bit of history of my experience of working with email, here
goes.  A few years ago, around 2012, I was forced to transfer all my
archived email from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird due to the fact that I
could no longer reliably edit email in it because of the kind of
accessibility woes you have described.
Later, Thunderbird began displaying similar, yet not so troubling,
accessibility issues; moreover, eventually, Thunderbird became so totally
frustrating as it kept retrieving from my very reputable Bell Canada email
server messages I had repeatedly deleted.
This was the last straw, and, besides, I had always wanted to embrace the
Microsoft Office suite of programs, specifically, Word and Outlook; my major
reason was that the universal use of Office meant that all screen reader
manufacturers would remain committed to ensuring its accessibility for us.
Since my transition to Outlook, I must say that, although I have had my
frustrations with it, it has been very reliable for my email needs.
Outlook also allows me to review my Twitter tweets through the use of a free
add-on (http://www.techhit.com/TwInbox/twitter_plugin_outlook.html), one
which allows me to read them identically to reading email, namely, using
arrow keys in a folder list.
As a Window-Eyes app developer as well, Microsoft Word, in conjunction with
a Window-Eyes app written by Chip Orange
(http://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1238), allows
me to use the VBA integrated development environment to edit my app code in
a very powerful way.
So, with my newest Windows 10 PC, I have subscribed to Office 365 personal,
such that, for seven dollars per month, I have a stable and accessible
software platform.
I hope this answers your question.

All the best for the New Year,

Rod Hutton
Toronto, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 2, 2016 10:36 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: major thunderbird problems

I'm surprised to hear you say this, after everyone on this list suggested
thunderbird.  Can you fill me in why?

On 1/2/2016 7:26 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Jed,
>
> If I might be so bold, you would be happier in the long run if you
> switch
to
> Outlook.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rod Hutton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jed Barton via Talk
> Sent: January 1, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: major thunderbird problems
>
> Hey guys, Alright this is a huge issuee, and it's serious.  I have
> been having major thunderbird problems, so bad, that for some unknown
> reason, it's virtually unusable.  I am running we 8.4, cause my
> computer is too slow for 9.3.  I literally made no changes.  I can no
> longer focus on the body of an email that i am typing.  When i am
> typing, it will randomly say control search mode.  When i arrow up and
> down in the message, it literally says nothing.  I have to keep
> re-focusing thunderbird, by minimizing everything, then going back to
> the message window.  This is obviously unacceptable.  It can not
> continue.Does anyone have any ideas of what to do.  I have no idea why
> this is happening, and it literally started happening out of nowhere.
>
> It will also start saying while i am typing, stuff like not a vaeven
> says stuff like no valid key press, no visited link.Please help.  I
> also have to ke

RE: major thunderbird problems

2016-01-02 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk 
Hi Jed,

If I might be so bold, you would be happier in the long run if you switch to
Outlook.

Sincerely,

Rod Hutton

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: January 1, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: major thunderbird problems

Hey guys, Alright this is a huge issuee, and it's serious.  I have been 
having major thunderbird problems, so bad, that for some unknown reason, 
it's virtually unusable.  I am running we 8.4, cause my computer is too 
slow for 9.3.  I literally made no changes.  I can no longer focus on 
the body of an email that i am typing.  When i am typing, it will 
randomly say control search mode.  When i arrow up and down in the 
message, it literally says nothing.  I have to keep re-focusing 
thunderbird, by minimizing everything, then going back to the message 
window.  This is obviously unacceptable.  It can not continue.Does 
anyone have any ideas of what to do.  I have no idea why this is 
happening, and it literally started happening out of nowhere.

It will also start saying while i am typing, stuff like not a vaeven 
says stuff like no valid key press, no visited link.Please help.  I also 
have to keep turning browse mode on and off, i never had to do this before.
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Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

2016-01-02 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk 
Hi Jed,

I'm posting my reply to you to the talk list as well just in case others
might find it of benefit.

By way of a bit of history of my experience of working with email, here
goes. 
A few years ago, around 2012, I was forced to transfer all my archived email
from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird due to the fact that I could no longer
reliably edit email in it because of the kind of accessibility woes you have
described.
Later, Thunderbird began displaying similar, yet not so troubling,
accessibility issues;
moreover, eventually, Thunderbird became so totally frustrating as it kept
retrieving from my very reputable Bell Canada email server messages I had
repeatedly deleted.
This was the last straw, and, besides, I had always wanted to embrace the
Microsoft Office suite of programs, specifically, Word and Outlook;
my major reason was that the universal use of Office meant that all screen
reader manufacturers would remain committed to ensuring its accessibility
for us.
Since my transition to Outlook, I must say that, although I have had my
frustrations with it, it has been very reliable for my email needs.
Outlook also allows me to review my Twitter tweets through the use of a free
add-on (http://www.techhit.com/TwInbox/twitter_plugin_outlook.html), one
which allows me to read them identically to reading email, namely, using
arrow keys in a folder list.
As a Window-Eyes app developer as well, Microsoft Word, in conjunction with
a Window-Eyes app written by Chip Orange
(http://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1238), allows
me to use the VBA integrated development environment to edit my app code in
a very powerful way.
So, with my newest Windows 10 PC, I have subscribed to Office 365 personal,
such that, for seven dollars per month, I have a stable and accessible
software platform.
I hope this answers your question.

All the best for the New Year,

Rod Hutton
Toronto, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: January 2, 2016 10:36 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: major thunderbird problems

I'm surprised to hear you say this, after everyone on this list 
suggested thunderbird.  Can you fill me in why?

On 1/2/2016 7:26 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Jed,
>
> If I might be so bold, you would be happier in the long run if you switch
to
> Outlook.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rod Hutton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jed Barton via Talk
> Sent: January 1, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: major thunderbird problems
>
> Hey guys, Alright this is a huge issuee, and it's serious.  I have been
> having major thunderbird problems, so bad, that for some unknown reason,
> it's virtually unusable.  I am running we 8.4, cause my computer is too
> slow for 9.3.  I literally made no changes.  I can no longer focus on
> the body of an email that i am typing.  When i am typing, it will
> randomly say control search mode.  When i arrow up and down in the
> message, it literally says nothing.  I have to keep re-focusing
> thunderbird, by minimizing everything, then going back to the message
> window.  This is obviously unacceptable.  It can not continue.Does
> anyone have any ideas of what to do.  I have no idea why this is
> happening, and it literally started happening out of nowhere.
>
> It will also start saying while i am typing, stuff like not a vaeven
> says stuff like no valid key press, no visited link.Please help.  I also
> have to keep turning browse mode on and off, i never had to do this
before.
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Re: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

2016-01-02 Thread bob jutzi via Talk 
Even after making the changes in Config Edit, Window-eyes still isn't 
speaking when backspacing within Thunderbird.  Plus, I still experience 
a lot of freeze-ups within IE requiring a re-launch of WE.  No screen 
reader is perfect, but I don't have near the problems particularily with 
TB using NVDA and it supports more out-of-box without the need for a ton 
of apps.



On 1/2/2016 1:33 PM, joseph weakland via Talk wrote:

hello rod can you do an audio podcast of how twaddon works? have a happy
new year
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To: <j...@jedbarton.com>; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'"
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Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems



Hi Jed,

I'm posting my reply to you to the talk list as well just in case others
might find it of benefit.

By way of a bit of history of my experience of working with email, here
goes. 
A few years ago, around 2012, I was forced to transfer all my archived
email
from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird due to the fact that I could no
longer
reliably edit email in it because of the kind of accessibility woes
you have
described.
Later, Thunderbird began displaying similar, yet not so troubling,
accessibility issues;
moreover, eventually, Thunderbird became so totally frustrating as it
kept
retrieving from my very reputable Bell Canada email server messages I had
repeatedly deleted.
This was the last straw, and, besides, I had always wanted to embrace the
Microsoft Office suite of programs, specifically, Word and Outlook;
my major reason was that the universal use of Office meant that all
screen
reader manufacturers would remain committed to ensuring its accessibility
for us.
Since my transition to Outlook, I must say that, although I have had my
frustrations with it, it has been very reliable for my email needs.
Outlook also allows me to review my Twitter tweets through the use of
a free
add-on (http://www.techhit.com/TwInbox/twitter_plugin_outlook.html), one
which allows me to read them identically to reading email, namely, using
arrow keys in a folder list.
As a Window-Eyes app developer as well, Microsoft Word, in conjunction
with
a Window-Eyes app written by Chip Orange
(http://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1238),
allows
me to use the VBA integrated development environment to edit my app
code in
a very powerful way.
So, with my newest Windows 10 PC, I have subscribed to Office 365
personal,
such that, for seven dollars per month, I have a stable and accessible
software platform.
I hope this answers your question.

All the best for the New Year,

Rod Hutton
Toronto, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 2, 2016 10:36 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: major thunderbird problems

I'm surprised to hear you say this, after everyone on this list
suggested thunderbird.  Can you fill me in why?

On 1/2/2016 7:26 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Jed,

If I might be so bold, you would be happier in the long run if you
switch

to

Outlook.

Sincerely,

Rod Hutton

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Behalf

Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: January 1, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: major thunderbird problems

Hey guys, Alright this is a huge issuee, and it's serious.  I have been
having major thunderbird problems, so bad, that for some unknown reason,
it's virtually unusable.  I am running we 8.4, cause my computer is too
slow for 9.3.  I literally made no changes.  I can no longer focus on
the body of an email that i am typing.  When i am typing, it will
randomly say control search mode.  When i arrow up and down in the
message, it literally says nothing.  I have to keep re-focusing
thunderbird, by minimizing everything, then going back to the message
window.  This is obviously unacceptable.  It can not continue.Does
anyone have any ideas of what to do.  I have no idea why this is
happening, and it literally started happening out of nowhere.

It will also start saying while i am typing, stuff like not a vaeven
says stuff like no valid key press, no visited link.Please help.  I also
have to keep turning browse mode on and off, i never had to do this

before.

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Re: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems

2016-01-02 Thread joseph weakland via Talk 
hello rod can you do an audio podcast of how twaddon works? have a happy new 
year
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To: <j...@jedbarton.com>; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
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Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Why I switch to Outlook Was RE: major thunderbird problems



Hi Jed,

I'm posting my reply to you to the talk list as well just in case others
might find it of benefit.

By way of a bit of history of my experience of working with email, here
goes. 
A few years ago, around 2012, I was forced to transfer all my archived 
email
from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird due to the fact that I could no 
longer
reliably edit email in it because of the kind of accessibility woes you 
have

described.
Later, Thunderbird began displaying similar, yet not so troubling,
accessibility issues;
moreover, eventually, Thunderbird became so totally frustrating as it kept
retrieving from my very reputable Bell Canada email server messages I had
repeatedly deleted.
This was the last straw, and, besides, I had always wanted to embrace the
Microsoft Office suite of programs, specifically, Word and Outlook;
my major reason was that the universal use of Office meant that all screen
reader manufacturers would remain committed to ensuring its accessibility
for us.
Since my transition to Outlook, I must say that, although I have had my
frustrations with it, it has been very reliable for my email needs.
Outlook also allows me to review my Twitter tweets through the use of a 
free

add-on (http://www.techhit.com/TwInbox/twitter_plugin_outlook.html), one
which allows me to read them identically to reading email, namely, using
arrow keys in a folder list.
As a Window-Eyes app developer as well, Microsoft Word, in conjunction 
with

a Window-Eyes app written by Chip Orange
(http://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1238), 
allows
me to use the VBA integrated development environment to edit my app code 
in

a very powerful way.
So, with my newest Windows 10 PC, I have subscribed to Office 365 
personal,

such that, for seven dollars per month, I have a stable and accessible
software platform.
I hope this answers your question.

All the best for the New Year,

Rod Hutton
Toronto, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 2, 2016 10:36 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: major thunderbird problems

I'm surprised to hear you say this, after everyone on this list
suggested thunderbird.  Can you fill me in why?

On 1/2/2016 7:26 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Jed,

If I might be so bold, you would be happier in the long run if you switch

to

Outlook.

Sincerely,

Rod Hutton

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf

Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: January 1, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: major thunderbird problems

Hey guys, Alright this is a huge issuee, and it's serious.  I have been
having major thunderbird problems, so bad, that for some unknown reason,
it's virtually unusable.  I am running we 8.4, cause my computer is too
slow for 9.3.  I literally made no changes.  I can no longer focus on
the body of an email that i am typing.  When i am typing, it will
randomly say control search mode.  When i arrow up and down in the
message, it literally says nothing.  I have to keep re-focusing
thunderbird, by minimizing everything, then going back to the message
window.  This is obviously unacceptable.  It can not continue.Does
anyone have any ideas of what to do.  I have no idea why this is
happening, and it literally started happening out of nowhere.

It will also start saying while i am typing, stuff like not a vaeven
says stuff like no valid key press, no visited link.Please help.  I also
have to keep turning browse mode on and off, i never had to do this

before.

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RE: major thunderbird problems

2015-12-14 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk 
Hi,
Try setting your message composition to text.
You can also turn off browse mode.  It looks like screen readers in some 
situations think you should be in browse mode.
The same happened to me the other day with another screen reader.
This seems to be new with the latest TB.
Just my observations.

Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:09 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: major thunderbird problems

Hey  guys,

I am having a huge thunderbird problem.  My system just randomly started 
doing this, and it's annoying to say the least.  I am running we 8.4, 
windows 7.  While i am in the middle of typing an email, thunderbird is 
saying downloading page, and as i type it'll say no place marker, no 
frame, stuff like that as i hit keys on the keyboard.  I have to 
minimize everything, then go back to the message window.  This is very 
annoying.  On top of all that, when i press the up and down arrow in the 
message window, window-eyes says nothing, or it goes ding ding ding 
ding.  I have tried 5 reboots, but the behavior continues.  Any ideas on 
how to fix this?  This is quite frankly unacceptable.
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