Re: Thunderbird problem

2022-10-30 Thread Mike via Talk 

Hello Larry


Thank you for your reply.  I found Thunderbird became more and more 
difficult to use after version 60.4.0 and so, I eventually went back to 
that version.  It works well with my 64 bit laptop apart from the 
editing problems I mentioned previously.  I agree WE is becoming less 
and less useful but I often find We works with somethings that other 
screen readers cannot cope with.  I am intending to keep it on my 
machines so long as it is useful.



Best wishes


Mike - G0VMG

Mike Gurney

On 30/10/2022 16:50, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Mike,


Although I sure hope that someone has a satisfactory solution to your 
issue, I'm afraid that WE is simply becoming less and less usable as 
time goes on.



As for me and Thunderbird, If I wish to simply read a message, I have 
to select the entire message with ctrl+a, and use the read to end 
combo ctrl+shift+r, but there is really no way to use the editor, all 
of this at least with the 64bit version. Chances are that if I had not 
chosen to upgrade in this way, Thunderbird would be more manageable. 
As it is, I have to move to either The Fish, or NVDA to make any 
significant use of Thunderbird.



Another way to read text in a message is to save to either a text or 
html file, but what a PITA.



Frankly, the thing tha t keeps me attached to WE is the Winamp 
scripts, and not least, WE's version of Eloquence. I really do not 
like the reading pace of Eloquence with JAWS, and increasingly NVDA. I 
will have to admit though, to using an illegal version of IBM 
Eloquence with NVDA, and can't make use of my Code Factory edition of 
same with either screen reader for some reason.



Anyway, that is only my two cents worth on the matter, and I'm quite 
sure that is just about all it is worth .



Have a great day,


Larry

On 10/30/2022 7:46 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone


Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue.


For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to 
edit or modify the text I am writing.  Writing continuously there 
isn't any difficulties.  However, if I need to cursor up to check 
what I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, 
there is just one additional line but if I need to go up or down 
repeatedly, I will get more and more copies of the same line.



I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly 
keeps reading them.



Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then 
copying it across.  Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also 
becoming a problem.



With thanks


Mike.


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Re: Thunderbird problem

2022-10-30 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk 

Mike,


Although I sure hope that someone has a satisfactory solution to your 
issue, I'm afraid that WE is simply becoming less and less usable as 
time goes on.



As for me and Thunderbird, If I wish to simply read a message, I have to 
select the entire message with ctrl+a, and use the read to end combo 
ctrl+shift+r, but there is really no way to use the editor, all of this 
at least with the 64bit version. Chances are that if I had not chosen to 
upgrade in this way, Thunderbird would be more manageable. As it is, I 
have to move to either The Fish, or NVDA to make any significant use of 
Thunderbird.



Another way to read text in a message is to save to either a text or 
html file, but what a PITA.



Frankly, the thing tha t keeps me attached to WE is the Winamp scripts, 
and not least, WE's version of Eloquence. I really do not like the 
reading pace of Eloquence with JAWS, and increasingly NVDA. I will have 
to admit though, to using an illegal version of IBM Eloquence with NVDA, 
and can't make use of my Code Factory edition of same with either screen 
reader for some reason.



Anyway, that is only my two cents worth on the matter, and I'm quite 
sure that is just about all it is worth .



Have a great day,


Larry

On 10/30/2022 7:46 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone


Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue.


For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to 
edit or modify the text I am writing.  Writing continuously there 
isn't any difficulties.  However, if I need to cursor up to check what 
I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, there is 
just one additional line but if I need to go up or down repeatedly, I 
will get more and more copies of the same line.



I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly 
keeps reading them.



Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then 
copying it across.  Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also 
becoming a problem.



With thanks


Mike.


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RE: Thunderbird problem with WE 9.4

2016-03-18 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk 
Hi,

Are you opening messages in tabs or windows?
Also  what happens if you disable apps?
Press insert-7 to toggle the app status to off.
Note: the 7 is on the QWERTY keyboard, not the number pad.

Chris


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Subject: Thunderbird problem with WE 9.4

Members

Recently up graded my win 7 home premium 64 bit machine and we from 
version 9.2 to 9.4 and find the following problems

In Thunderbird we repeats the first line unless I set we to read nothing 
when opening a message.

If I set it to read the first 24 lines or the entire page and hit the 
escape key to close the message we goes silent and upon restart I get a 
Thunderbird not responding note and enter closes Thunderbird.I get the 
same result if I set we to read nothing and do an read to end command 
unless I hit the control key to silence we pryer to closing the message.

I do find IE 11 better with version 9.4.

Please help.

Jim Elsner



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Re: Thunderbird Problem

2015-03-01 Thread Joe Paton via Talk 
Hi Robert,

there isn't another window open obscuring the message window?  I have seen this
with Eset nod32 when there is an alert.  Just an idea.

Joe
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:10:13 -0600
robert martin via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Good Morning,  When typing a message in Thunderbird it appears to put a 
word on each line so that to read the message I have to cursor down the page.  
Also this seems to complicate reading to end at least sometimes.  Interestingly 
when I look at a message that has been sent it appears to have more or less 
correct formatting.  I suspect I've pushed some button somewhere that has 
created this problem.  It seems to me that I've had this problem at least once 
before when I first started using Thunderbird but I can't remember the 
solution.  Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer a solution

Regards,

Bob Martin


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