Re: [OSM-talk] OSM routing

[maning sambale]

Yes there are:
1. http://www.yournavigation.org/
2. http://www.openrouteservice.org/ (seems to be down currently)

For Metro Manila, I think this would be useable for now but not so in
other areas of the Philippines:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2008-December/000181.html

But, it's just a matter of time.

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Andre Schoonbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to know if it is possible to have a web based routing solution on OSM
> data. If so I would appreciate more info on how.

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[OSM-talk] OSM routing

[Andre Schoonbee]

I want to know if it is possible to have a web based routing solution on OSM
data. If so I would appreciate more info on how.

Regards

Andre


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Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

[maning sambale]

Ahh!  Forgot to check that the routing planet file data was a week
old.  I added a new route=ferry a couple of days ago.
But it works on other places:
http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=9.465166&flon=123.223267&tlat=9.420631&tlon=123.316479&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik

great work by the way.



On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nic Roets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes.
> http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.96331&flon=4.76825&tlat=53.0023&tlon=4.78954&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik
>
> It's the slowest form of transport :
>  motorcar="3" psv="3"/>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:41 AM, maning sambale
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Is this supported by yournavigation routing?
>>
>> Inter-island routing in areas with route:ferry tag
>>
>> cheers,
>> maning
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Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

[Nic Roets]

Yes.
http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.96331&flon=4.76825&tlat=53.0023&tlon=4.78954&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik

It's the slowest form of transport :


On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:41 AM, maning sambale
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is this supported by yournavigation routing?
>
> Inter-island routing in areas with route:ferry tag
>
> cheers,
> maning
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[OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

[maning sambale]

Is this supported by yournavigation routing?

Inter-island routing in areas with route:ferry tag

cheers,
maning

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Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

Till Harbaum / Lists wrote:
> is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server?

None that I'm aware of. We're going through a lot of pain with JOSM to 
display Yahoo background images, and we wouldn't do that if there was a WMS.

> Yahoos license seem to allow this

Tell me more?

Bye
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[OSM-talk] ERDAS Titan chooses OpenStreetMap as its default basemap

[Mikel Maron]

http://erdastitan.blogspot.com/2008/12/erdas-titan-client-932c-released.html

Erdas is part of Leica Geosystems. Titan is an infrastructure for sharing 
geodata, especially targetted for coordination in emergencies. They latest 
relase of their client has OSM as the default basemap.

-

OSM is becoming the choice for disaster management. The open source Sahana has 
supported OSM since Cyclone Nargis earlier this year.
http://talksahana.com/2008/06/11/gis-catalog-managing-layers/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps - OSM comparison

[Alex Mauer]

> Captials in Europe are done very well (Vaduz is an exception)
> 
> In South America OSM is far behind Google
> 
> In Afrika the winner is OSM
> 
> In Asia it's mixed.
> 

I ran through the whole list, ranking the quality of the map for each of
OSM and Google on a scale of 0-5. (0 meaning that the map is blank or
only the name appears, 5 meaning that it doesn't seem like anything is
missing from the map)  Assuming I did a good job of ranking, OSM is
slightly ahead of Google worldwide and in in Africa and Asia.  In
Europe, OSM is well ahead.  Google is slightly ahead in Oceania, and
well ahead in North and especially South America

Here are the results (I can provide my rankings in a spreadsheet as well
if anyone is interested):
OSM Google
World   2.642.50
Africa  2.021.78
Asia2.622.36
Europe  3.903.38
N Am2.172.77
Oceania 2.192.35
S Am2.363.21

-Alex Mauer "hawke


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[OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

[Till Harbaum / Lists]

Hi,

is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Yahoos license seem to allow this
and some users of my osm2go ask for yahoo images. Going through a 
wms server would be the easiest and cleanest solution i think.

Thanks,
  Till

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[D Tucny]

Deleted way 27597540 (
http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history)
including
5 nodes, 303045069, 303045070, 303045071, 303045072, 303045073... User
'pefok'...Ran from a lake in Canada into the Atlantic, across South America,
out into the Pacific and back again, no objects had any tags even
created_by...

d

2008/12/4 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap
> over the past year.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia
>
>
>
> This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows
> some large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's
> routes' (see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now been
> removed.
>
>
>
> We have just updated this image to show the current situation which shows
> what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they are
> ferry routes).
>
>
>
> Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate (this
> is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also suggest
> that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed one to
> avoid duplicate work?
>
>
>
> We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another good
> reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.
>
>
>
> It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
> subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Miller
>
> ITO World Ltd
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

[Christoph Böhme]

"Andy Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Christoph Böhme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > At the moment I am trying to figure out if bug reports reports can
> > be stored directly in the osm database using standard nodes and
> > tags.
> 
> Please, please don't take or advocate this approach. The OSM core
> tables should, ideally, contain geo-data. We already anticipate much
> of the meta-data (e.g. created_by tags, usernames) to be applied to
> changesets (which are in themselves natively metadata). There's been a
> long and steady agreement that future bug tracking systems won't just
> slap nodes into the midst of our geotables.

I was not aware of this agreement. When I first started thinking about
a bug tracker I intended to keep the bug reports in data structures
separate from the osm database. But in the following discussions I got
the feeling that a bug tracker which allowed free-form tagging would be
very welcomed. But implementing this means basically replicating the
node-objects (and the way-objects too if you want to mark buggy areas).
So, I concluded it would be the easiest to just introduce a new set of
tags and manage them differently in the clients. However, I can see why
this is not a very clean solution and I am happy to implement in a
different dataset.

> However, this is another subject that needs more doing and less
> talking :-)

I am really eager to start programming something but at the moment I am
still trying to figure out what exactly. I do not want to spend time
writing a bug tracker that is then rejected because of the way it
stores the bug reports.

Christoph

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Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

[Andy Allan]

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Christoph Böhme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At the moment I am trying to figure out if bug reports reports can be
> stored directly in the osm database using standard nodes and tags.

Please, please don't take or advocate this approach. The OSM core
tables should, ideally, contain geo-data. We already anticipate much
of the meta-data (e.g. created_by tags, usernames) to be applied to
changesets (which are in themselves natively metadata). There's been a
long and steady agreement that future bug tracking systems won't just
slap nodes into the midst of our geotables.

However, this is another subject that needs more doing and less talking :-)

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] find corners of exported maps

[Dirk-Lüder Kreie]

Olav Kvittem schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder how I compute the coordinates of the corners of the images 
> received from the web export function
> for an osmarender image. I specify geodetic center position(degrees), 
> zoom level and image size and get at nice map image.
> The projection is of cource Mercator and I can linearly map mercator 
> coordinates onto the image.
> But how do I know the coordinates of the corners of the returned image ?
> 
> The url I use is :
> http://server.tah.openstreetmap.org/MapOf/index.php?long=10.17456&lat=56.01566&z=6&w=500&h=592&format=png'
>  
> 
> 
> The tile-size for each level is 256x256 so given the zoom-level I could 
> compute the pixel density from the
> world map size in mercator projection.
> That works for east direction which is linear, but for the northern 
> direction the projection is nonlinear and
> I am not sure if the geodetic center that I specify is at the center of 
> the returned image or not.

have a look at the debugHelper.pl in [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will give you the
latlon center of the tile bbox and the latlon of the center of the tile.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

[Nick Whitelegg]

>however, the recent drop-off in mappers correlates very nicely with
>the fall in non-business sunshine hours. and is slightly correlated
>with mean daytime temperature (at least in the UK).

>>> If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now 
stopped
>>> could share the reasons I might help shed some light.
>>
>> I haven't actually stopped, it's just slowed down.  But I imagine 
others that
>> could stop temporarily.

>i've pretty much stopped - the flash on my camera drains the battery
>too quickly for night-time mapping...

What about weekends though? I do almost all my mapping at weekends, even 
in the summer, and managed to do some mapping on all 10 weekend days in 
November. :-)

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[OSM-talk] find corners of exported maps

[Olav Kvittem]

Hi,

I wonder how I compute the coordinates of the corners of the images 
received from the web export function
for an osmarender image. I specify geodetic center position(degrees), 
zoom level and image size and get at nice map image.
The projection is of cource Mercator and I can linearly map mercator 
coordinates onto the image.
But how do I know the coordinates of the corners of the returned image ?

The url I use is :
http://server.tah.openstreetmap.org/MapOf/index.php?long=10.17456&lat=56.01566&z=6&w=500&h=592&format=png'
 


The tile-size for each level is 256x256 so given the zoom-level I could 
compute the pixel density from the
world map size in mercator projection.
That works for east direction which is linear, but for the northern 
direction the projection is nonlinear and
I am not sure if the geodetic center that I specify is at the center of 
the returned image or not.

cheers
Olav

perl code for computing the pixel density

  # $ol = east length of map section
   # pix,$piy = pixel size of image
  # find zoom level
  my $dnmax=85.0511; # max for osmarender
  my ($momax, $mnmax)=mercate($dnmax, 180); my 
$zlevel=int( log( 2*$momax / $ol ) / log(2) + 1);  # osm zoom

  # find real size of map
  my $ompp=2*$momax/(2**$zlevel)/256; # east meters per pixel for 
this level
  my $nmpp=2*$mnmax/(2**$zlevel)/256; # north meters per pixel for 
this level



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[OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Peter Miller]

A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap over
the past year.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia

 

This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows some
large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's routes'
(see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now been
removed.

 

We have just updated this image to show the current situation which shows
what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they are
ferry routes). 

 

Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate (this
is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also suggest
that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed one to
avoid duplicate work?

 

We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another good
reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.

 

It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Peter Miller

ITO World Ltd

 

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Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetbug feature enhancement request

[Shaun McDonald]

On 4 Dec 2008, at 02:56, maning sambale wrote:

> Hi,
> An openstreetbug feature enhancement request (or for future bug  
> tracking tool):
> Add the data layer (as in the main OSM map) to view the the  
> underlying tags
>

If you want this why not integrate OpenStreetBugs into the the main  
osm website that already has the data layer?

Shaun


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