Re: [OSM-talk] mapping golf courses

[Maarten Deen]

Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 > here is an attempt to map a golf course:
 >
 > http://xlquest.net/
 >
 > the xml code is here:
 > http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/

Looks nice, but I would like to suggest putting a green background over the 
whole course, and only have light background where there is sand (bunkers).
IMHO it is a bit "busy" the way it looks now.

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

[Valent Turkovic]

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
> si...@mungewell.org wrote:
>> Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big' edits
>> so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and
>> how frequently they were editing my area.
>>
>>
> +1,
> better still, the button should reveal the big edits, default should be
> hidden.
>
> Cheers, Chris
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+1 for this idea, it should be hidden by default.

Has any work been done since June on this feature?

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[OSM-talk] OpenRouteService fail

[Valent Turkovic]

http://data.giub.uni-bonn.de/openrouteservice/index.php?start=18.7229582,45.5484725&end=18.7253668,45.5472572&pref=Fastest&lang=de&noMotorways=false&noTollways=false

As you can see there is a barrier in the middle of this street that
OpenRouteService suggests to use. Is this a bug in OpenRouteService or
did I map the barrier incorrectly?

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenRouteService fail

[Pascal Neis]

Hi,

Valent Turkovic schrieb:
> http://data.giub.uni-bonn.de/openrouteservice/index.php?start=18.7229582,45.5484725&end=18.7253668,45.5472572&pref=Fastest&lang=de&noMotorways=false&noTollways=false
> 
> As you can see there is a barrier in the middle of this street that
> OpenRouteService suggests to use. Is this a bug in OpenRouteService or
> did I map the barrier incorrectly?
> 
> Cheers!
> 

sorry, OpenRouteService don't support barriers.
But your street looks like strange, is that coorcet
that theere are only oneways of the Senjska street?

reagrds
pascal

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Re: [OSM-talk] lists and # of subscribers

[matthew-osm]

Hi,

On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 06:11:27PM -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
> I often find myself wondering how many are subscribed to the various
> osm lists.

Out of interest, as a snapshot just now:

  1146 on talk
  719 on dev
  258 on talk-gb

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[OSM-talk] Feed reader stupidities with our Atom feeds

[Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason]

I use Liferea as my feed reader and I discovered that when I double
click on a feed link I get the osmChange XML.

This is because Liferea is using one variable internally to keep track
of the  href for each feed entry. When confronted with multiple
 elements will overwrite this variable each time it sees a new
one. So it always ends up using the last .

Here's a snip from one of our feeds for reference:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2395774";
rel="alternate"/>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/2395774";
type="application/osm+xml" rel="alternate"/>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/2395774/download";
type="application/osmChange+xml" rel="alternate"/>

I thought I'd move the the text/html link to the end to work around
this. But that might trip up some other feed readers which implement a
different flavor of stupid.

So can you (yes you!) please test our feeds in your favorite feed
reader and see how this (and other things) work or don't work and
reply to this mail with the results.

Here's an example feed to play with:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%C3%86var%20Arnfj%C3%B6r%C3%B0%20Bjarmason/edits/feed

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[OSM-talk] several vandals, one strategy?: RR8, Yasuthan, liam123

[Richard Weait]

Hi all,

An addition to previous reports here regarding RR8 and liam123. User
Yasuthan has exhibited similar behaviour:

- multiple edits small and large
- edits in geographically diverse areas
- edits that range from plausible to unusual to odd to wrong to graffiti

Yasuthan has shown interest in Toronto and Vancouver.

I collected the edits of these three and found that they edit on
different days.  The one exception being Sep 3, when two of them
edited 9 hours apart, perhaps separated by a local 'night'.  Am I
imagining coordination where there is none?  If I were better with
calc I might make a graph for this.

Thoughts?

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenRouteService fail

[Valent Turkovic]

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Pascal Neis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Valent Turkovic schrieb:
>>
>>
>> http://data.giub.uni-bonn.de/openrouteservice/index.php?start=18.7229582,45.5484725&end=18.7253668,45.5472572&pref=Fastest&lang=de&noMotorways=false&noTollways=false
>>
>> As you can see there is a barrier in the middle of this street that
>> OpenRouteService suggests to use. Is this a bug in OpenRouteService or
>> did I map the barrier incorrectly?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>
> sorry, OpenRouteService don't support barriers.
> But your street looks like strange, is that coorcet
> that theere are only oneways of the Senjska street?
>
> reagrds
> pascal

I'm sad to hear that ORS doesn't support barriers, is this planned for
some time in the future?

I know oneway streets of the Senjska street look strange but that is
how they are in reality, don't look at me I just mapped them didn't
set the signs that way ;)


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Re: [OSM-talk] several vandals, one strategy?: RR8, Yasuthan, liam123

[Someoneelse]

Richard Weait wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> An addition to previous reports here regarding RR8 and liam123. User
> Yasuthan has exhibited similar behaviour:
> 
> ...
> 
> Thoughts?

Both Yathusan and RR8 seem to have a liking for making roads previously 
added as other than secondary into secondary roads, but beyond that I 
can't see an obvious correlation.

I would guess that RR8 may be based in England or Wales because of the 
times of activity through a public holiday weekend and perhaps in the NE 
Midlands because of the large number of changes there.

Other people have placed liam123 further south in the UK:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2009-July/004143.html


Whether or not they're linked online personas or not, I suspect that the 
project is going to need some sort of approach to deal with potential 
graffiti-artists and worse - many options were discussed on talk-gb back 
in July.  Other sites with user-contributed content all end up having to 
do something, but do take different approaches (think of what Wikipedia, 
Slashdot, Fark and the rest do).

If possible, I'd be keen to still allow people to create an account to 
e.g. "correct that streetname that's wrong" without having to jump 
through lots of hoops, but if someone creates an account, uploads no 
traces and enters 145 changesets over 3 days (as RR8 did) I think that 
it's fair to smell a rat (even if the changes weren't malicious, which 
is quite possible).

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenRouteService fail

[Pascal Neis]

Valent Turkovic schrieb:
> 
> I'm sad to hear that ORS doesn't support barriers, is this planned for
> some time in the future?

Of course planned, but atm I can not say when it will happen.

pascal

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Re: [OSM-talk] Real world one-way stupidity

[Simon Hewison]

Ed Avis wrote:
> This shows that keepright's one-way check isn't always correct:
> 
> 

On a related note, my local council finally corrected a sign that stated 
that a road was both a no through road, and a one-way street.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

[Thomas Wood]

My apologies, I meant to change the links.
Try errol.openstreetmap.org/...

2009/9/8 Ulf Lamping :
> Hi!
>
> The openlayer wiki examples in [1] links to none existing example files
> at [2].
>
> Have the files moved somewhere else or are they gone due to the recent
> dev server changes?
>
> Regards, ULFL
>
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers
> [2] http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~edgemaster/OpenLayersExamples/
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

[Tom Hughes]

On 08/09/09 00:24, Thomas Wood wrote:
> My apologies, I meant to change the links.
> Try errol.openstreetmap.org/...

Please don't do that, both because it doesn't work and because we don't 
have to get people used to referring to the machine by that name.

You jumped the gun a bit on transferring your home directory to the new 
machine but I'll see if I can patch things up...

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] several vandals, one strategy?: RR8, Yasuthan, liam123

[Andrew Errington]

On Tue, September 8, 2009 06:32, Someoneelse wrote:
> Richard Weait wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> An addition to previous reports here regarding RR8 and liam123. User
>> Yasuthan has exhibited similar behaviour:
>> ...
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> Both Yathusan and RR8 seem to have a liking for making roads previously
> added as other than secondary into secondary roads, but beyond that I can't
> see an obvious correlation.

> If possible, I'd be keen to still allow people to create an account to
> e.g. "correct that streetname that's wrong" without having to jump through
> lots of hoops


Perhaps they are the same person?  Are the IPs logged?  Oh, and don't
forget, they are probably reading this.

Regarding making contributions without jumping through hoops, isn't that
exactly what OpenStreetBugs does?

Andrew


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[OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

[Ulf Lamping]

Hi!

The openlayer wiki examples in [1] links to none existing example files
at [2].

Have the files moved somewhere else or are they gone due to the recent
dev server changes?

Regards, ULFL


[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers
[2] http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~edgemaster/OpenLayersExamples/


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

[Ulf Lamping]

Tom Hughes schrieb:
> On 08/09/09 00:24, Thomas Wood wrote:
>> My apologies, I meant to change the links.
>> Try errol.openstreetmap.org/...
> 
> Please don't do that, both because it doesn't work and because we don't 
> have to get people used to referring to the machine by that name.
> 
> You jumped the gun a bit on transferring your home directory to the new 
> machine but I'll see if I can patch things up...

... or are they gone due to the recent dev server changes ;-)


No need to hurry.

I've just stumbled over the problematic OpenLayers examples, as there's 
currently some discussions going on about the OpenLayer topic on the 
german ML.

Just let us know once the dust settled on these server changes, so we 
can fix the wiki examples ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

[Thomas Wood]

2009/9/8 Ulf Lamping :
> Tom Hughes schrieb:
>>
>> On 08/09/09 00:24, Thomas Wood wrote:
>>>
>>> My apologies, I meant to change the links.
>>> Try errol.openstreetmap.org/...
>>
>> Please don't do that, both because it doesn't work and because we don't
>> have to get people used to referring to the machine by that name.
>>
>> You jumped the gun a bit on transferring your home directory to the new
>> machine but I'll see if I can patch things up...
>
> ... or are they gone due to the recent dev server changes ;-)
>
>
> No need to hurry.
>
> I've just stumbled over the problematic OpenLayers examples, as there's
> currently some discussions going on about the OpenLayer topic on the german
> ML.
>
> Just let us know once the dust settled on these server changes, so we can
> fix the wiki examples ...
>
> Regards, ULFL
>

Yes, the wiki examples have been a little neglected for a while.
I should have a look at bringing them up to date.

Tom has now fixed errol's configuration, and after a DNS refresh,
everything should just work again.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

[Tom Hughes]

On 08/09/09 00:53, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> Tom Hughes schrieb:
>> On 08/09/09 00:24, Thomas Wood wrote:
>>> My apologies, I meant to change the links.
>>> Try errol.openstreetmap.org/...
>>
>> Please don't do that, both because it doesn't work and because we
>> don't have to get people used to referring to the machine by that name.
>>
>> You jumped the gun a bit on transferring your home directory to the
>> new machine but I'll see if I can patch things up...
>
> ... or are they gone due to the recent dev server changes ;-)
>
>
> No need to hurry.

I've fixed it up now so it only forwards users that don't exist locally. 
There's a DNS change that will take an hour or so to propagate however.

Tom

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