[OSM-talk] WebGL: Any 3D modellers/models out there?

2011-01-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg

With the imminent release of Firefox 4, now seems to be a good time to think 
about in-browser 3D OSM applications using WebGL - indeed there are already one 
or two things out there, including WebGLEarth (webglearth.com, using WebGL and 
OSM tiles) plus my own (very limited at the moment, and not looking at its best 
ATM due to lighting not working as a result of spec changes) OSM/SRTM vector 
rendering demo at http://www.free-map.org.uk/3d/.

However what would be good to have is some high-quality 3D models of many of 
the features present in OSM. For my own countryside-orientated slant, I'm 
particularly thinking of things like gates, stiles, trees, man made features 
such as masts, water towers and pylons, and textures such as grass, heath, 
water, gravel, mud, etc. The sort of thing I'm imagining is a 3D virtual world 
created from OSM data, which a user can explore by walking and flying around in 
it.

Is there anyone who is interested in creating such models, or for that matter, 
has maybe created a selection already?

Thanks,
Nick
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Re: [OSM-talk] WebGL: Any 3D modellers/models out there?

2011-01-21 Thread Matthias Meißer

Hi Nick,

I talked with some of our german community already about creating a free 
3D model portal that can be referenced. My idea was to make it with 
specialisation (e.g. a general model of a bus_station and dedicated ones 
for Germany ... City of Rostock)

-user:Tordanik that creates a modular PovRay Exporter
-user:marek kleciak that tries to improve the tagging details for buildings

Unfortunatly we are all very busy so there isn't anything already. I'm 
pretty sure that the folks of Blender3D would be happy to improve their 
cities in a third dimension. With BING out there, would this be easy to 
do so. We might even ask Google Sketchup people to relicense their works...


Would be cool when the 3D interested mappers could be united for this 
huge task :)


regards
Matthias

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[OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread SteveC
GPS might not work;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/20/unavailabe_gps_warning/


Steve

stevecoast.com


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Re: [OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread simon
> GPS might not work;
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/20/unavailabe_gps_warning/
>

Similar NOTAMS issued for the west cost too

Also
https://www.notams.jcs.mil/dinsQueryWeb/displayGPSWAASNotamAction.do
--
01/019 (A0009/11) - GPS NAV GLOBAL POSITION SYSTEM PSEUDO RANDOM NOISE 25
U/S. 24 JAN 21:00 2011 UNTIL
25 JAN 09:00 2011. CREATED: 20 JAN 19:26 2011
--

It would be interesting to see what affect they can actually have a static
receiver. I'll see if I can get some raw logs for this period.

Simon.


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing implications when extending POI with external metadata

2011-01-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

Joao Neto schrieb:

To be honest I think the share-alike aspect of the license is too
restrictive and working against the project.


From all I know, one point of the upcoming change to ODbL is exactly to 
make things like that easier.

But then, that's only what I heard, I'm neither a lawyer nor an LWG member.

Robert Kaiser


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Re: [OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread john
At a guess, they are probably testing how well the system would work for the 
military if the signals were encrypted, as they probably would be in the event 
a terrorist group or foreign military were thought to be about to launch an 
attack using GPS-guided weapons.

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> GPS might not work;
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/20/unavailabe_gps_warning/
>

Similar NOTAMS issued for the west cost too

Also
https://www.notams.jcs.mil/dinsQueryWeb/displayGPSWAASNotamAction.do
--
01/019 (A0009/11) - GPS NAV GLOBAL POSITION SYSTEM PSEUDO RANDOM NOISE 25
U/S. 24 JAN 21:00 2011 UNTIL
25 JAN 09:00 2011. CREATED: 20 JAN 19:26 2011
--

It would be interesting to see what affect they can actually have a static
receiver. I'll see if I can get some raw logs for this period.

Simon.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21  :
> At a guess, they are probably testing how well the system would work for the 
> military if the signals were encrypted, as they probably would be in the 
> event a terrorist group or foreign military were thought to be about to 
> launch an attack using GPS-guided weapons.


AFAIK the military is always using encrypted signals with a different
and wider frequency range and better accuracy.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 January 2011 03:49, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> 2011/1/21  :
>> At a guess, they are probably testing how well the system would work for the 
>> military if the signals were encrypted, as they probably would be in the 
>> event a terrorist group or foreign military were thought to be about to 
>> launch an attack using GPS-guided weapons.
>
>
> AFAIK the military is always using encrypted signals with a different
> and wider frequency range and better accuracy.

Doesn't some of the surveyor gear try to lock onto the frequency to
improve accuracy, even if they can't decrypt the signal?

Also if you know where the source of the jamming is coming from would
it be possible to use that information to over come some of the
degradation?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread simon

> Doesn't some of the surveyor gear try to lock onto the frequency to
> improve accuracy, even if they can't decrypt the signal?

Yes although P-Code is encrypted, it is usable in some form to improve
positional accuracy with some civilian receivers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_signals

>
> Also if you know where the source of the jamming is coming from would
> it be possible to use that information to over come some of the
> degradation?

Nope, not if the jamming is any good.
Simon



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Re: [OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 January 2011 04:13,   wrote:
>> Also if you know where the source of the jamming is coming from would
>> it be possible to use that information to over come some of the
>> degradation?
>
> Nope, not if the jamming is any good.

Maybe they aim to find out.

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Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-21 Thread Steve Doerr

On 10/01/2011 19:47, Tom Hughes wrote:

On 10/01/11 19:00, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:


American usage would be to refer to that as a road, just not a very
high-quality road. I take it that, in Britain, there are certain
minimum standards for being called a road?


Nothing official, but it would be very unusual for anybody to call
something that wasn't surfaced a road.


Unless they were expatriates in a third-world country?

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Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 19:30 +, Steve Doerr wrote:
> > Nothing official, but it would be very unusual for anybody to call
> > something that wasn't surfaced a road.
> 
> Unless they were expatriates in a third-world country? 

please refrain from such remarks - I suppose you think we map by snake
charming while riding on elephant back?
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