[OSM-talk] Crowdsource Mapping for Preparedness and Emergency Response

2011-05-19 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all,

Sorry HOT list if this is already on your radar, but I just came
across this meeting organized by UN-SPIDER:

http://www.un-spider.org/crowdsource-mapping

...'Expert Meeting to be held in Vienna to discuss strategies that
will contribute to supporting civil protection and emergency
management agencies to make use of products generated by such groups
in areas of preparedness and emergency response and provide a better
understanding to these groups on the specific needs of the disaster
management community.'

Anyone invited / going? I'm considering it.
-- 
Martijn van Exel
http://about.me/mvexel

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Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-19 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

   "by popular demand" ;)

http://download.geofabrik.de/clipbounds/

Please make sure to read the README file there.

Regarding boundaries, I prefer geographical over political grouping. The 
Azores are part of the Europe extract but they are not part of the 
Portugal extract; likewise, British/French/Dutch overseas territories 
are not included in the extract of the mother country and usually not 
even in the Europe extract. There are no hard and fast rules but I 
figured that if someone took the France extract and computed tiles for 
everything in that bounding box, they should not have a nasty surprise 
because I threw in Guadeloupe ;)


Bye
Frederik



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Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-19 Thread Hermann Peifer

On 19/05/2011 11:09, Frank Fesevur wrote:


It would be interesting for me if I could just review those polygons
on a map.


Indeed. Why not on an Open Street Map?

For Denmark, it would expect the bounding polygon it to look like a 
simplified version of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/50046.


Hermann

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Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-19 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/19 Russ Nelson :
> Thomas Davie writes:
>  > On 18 May 2011, at 07:04, Russ Nelson wrote:
>  > > can Ken assign copyright in the logo to OSMF.
>  >
>  > He can, but I see no reason why he should (other than if he
>  > particularly wants to).  The point of the licensing of this project
>  > is for people to get credit for what they did, I don't see why Ken
>  > should have to say "actually, it was the whole of the OSMF".
>
> So, no more reason than SteveC should have assigned the trademark, I
> guess?


You really can't compare this. To control the trademark is the power
to decide who has the right to call himself "Openstreetmap", while
beeing the copyright holder of a logo which is licensed cc-by-sa
simply gives you the right to be credited when your work is used
(because you already gave anyone the right to use your work without
any royalties).

But I agree to the point that it would be desirable not having to
credit Ken every time the logo is used...

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-19 Thread Frank Fesevur
2011/5/19 Frederik Ramm :
> On 05/19/2011 06:44 AM, Hermann Peifer wrote:
>> Are the boundary polygons that you use for clipping available somewhere?
>> I do vaguely remember that I have seen them earlier, but I can't find
>> them anymore.
>
> No, they aren't publicly available but I send them to people on request.
> There's really no reason to keep them secret, I just haven't set up a
> mechanism to automatically put them on the server because I didn't think
> people were all that interested.

It would be interesting for me if I could just review those polygons
on a map. Don't know if and/or how this can be done. For instance, I
want to use the Austria extract for the coming summer holiday, but we
will stay near the border of Italy. So I would like to know how far
does it go across borders. And I don't know how to see that from the
polygons, if I could download them.

Regards,
Frank

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[OSM-talk] Banner for SOTM-EU on the startpage?

2011-05-19 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I wonder if it would not be nice to have a banner for SOTM-EU on the
start page. As the page is already crowded, this could maybe appear
only if the user is logged in (because then the infotext below the
logo is not displayed). An example banner can be seen e.g. on
http://www.openstreetmap.de/ (in "Events").

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius


Frederik Ramm  schrieb:

>Hi,
>
>On 05/19/2011 06:44 AM, Hermann Peifer wrote:
>> Are the boundary polygons that you use for clipping available
>somewhere?
>> I do vaguely remember that I have seen them earlier, but I can't find
>> them anymore.
>
>No, they aren't publicly available but I send them to people on
>request. 
>There's really no reason to keep them secret, I just haven't set up a 
>mechanism to automatically put them on the server because I didn't
>think 
>people were all that interested.

Are they so much in flux that simply putting them on a web server won't do as a 
mechanism?

If you publish them you might get patches to eliminate those occasional spots 
of no-man's-land you were referring to in an earlier mail.

One thing people might be interested in doing is to merge them and use the 
result for extracting where the geofabrik extracts are not mergeable.

Matthias



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Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-19 Thread Hermann Peifer

On 19/05/2011 08:10, Frederik Ramm wrote:


No, they aren't publicly available but I send them to people on request.
There's really no reason to keep them secret, I just haven't set up a
mechanism to automatically put them on the server because I didn't think
people were all that interested.



I am about to make some (rough) overview statistics for European 
countries, about the length of OSM ways (with tagfilters 
highway=motorway, railway=rail, etc.). Your country files at 
http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ are very convenient in this 
context. Thanks for this great service!


However, I wanted to see how much double-counting there might be, due to 
the simplified country borders and overlaps between neighbouring 
countries. I also wanted to know what your difference is between 
'british_isles' and 'great_britain', etc.


Other users of your files might have a similar interest.

Hermann


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