Re: [OSM-talk] Video for conferences (loosely related to SotM-EU)

2011-07-21 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> A recurring question for FLOSS conferences in general is;
>
> What's the best way to stream our presentations to those who can't be
> here, and to store them for the historical record.
>
> I don't know the answer.  The team at SotM-EU did a super job of
> recording the talks and posting them quickly.  I've run across a
> F/LOSS project that offers similar functions, in FreeSeer.  i've not
> tried it yet and will welcome feedback from any with experience with
> it.

There's an offer from Flumotion [1] to do streaming in Free formats
for free [2].  No clue if they're still making the same offer though.

Cheers,

Adam

[1] http://www.flumotion.com/
[2] http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1329

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[OSM-talk] Pyroute

2011-07-21 Thread Luis Quesada

Dear all,

(Sorry if this is not the right forum for this question)
I am having error listed at the end when trying to run python gui.py

I am basically following the instructions at :

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pyroute

svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/routing/pyroute/
cd pyroute/
python gui.py

Could somebody tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Luis

lquesada@lucia:~/pyroute$ python gui.py
[, at 0xa0a750c>]

Loading POIs from /home/lquesada/pyroute/Setup/poi.txt
Error while parsing file
No GPSD detected, position information will not be available
No such tracklog "data/sketches/latest.gpx"
No such tracklog "data/track.gpx"
Loading OSM data from data/routing.osm
No such data file data/routing.osm
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui.py", line 336, in do_expose_event
return self._expose_cairo(event, cr)
  File "gui.py", line 332, in _expose_cairo
self.draw(cr)
  File "gui.py", line 257, in draw
self.modules['tiles'].draw(cr)
  File "/home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py", line 156, in draw
self.loadImage(x,y,z,layer)
  File "/home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py", line 98, in loadImage
self.images[name]  = cairo.ImageSurface.create_from_png(filename)
MemoryError
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui.py", line 336, in do_expose_event
return self._expose_cairo(event, cr)
  File "gui.py", line 332, in _expose_cairo
self.draw(cr)
  File "gui.py", line 257, in draw
self.modules['tiles'].draw(cr)
  File "/home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py", line 156, in draw
self.loadImage(x,y,z,layer)
  File "/home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py", line 98, in loadImage
self.images[name]  = cairo.ImageSurface.create_from_png(filename)
MemoryError
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui.py", line 336, in do_expose_event
return self._expose_cairo(event, cr)
  File "gui.py", line 332, in _expose_cairo
self.draw(cr)
  File "gui.py", line 257, in draw
self.modules['tiles'].draw(cr)
  File "/home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py", line 156, in draw
self.loadImage(x,y,z,layer)
  File "/home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py", line 98, in loadImage
self.images[name]  = cairo.ImageSurface.create_from_png(filename)
MemoryError

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Fax:(+353) 21 420 5369
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[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap 7th Birthday Party

2011-07-21 Thread Richard Weait
The date for the OSM seventh birthday is coming up.  Soon.  But when?

Which date  shall we set this year?  Previous OSM birthdays have been
celebrated around August on

20 August 2010
22 August 2009
02 August 2008
11 August 2007
12 August 2006

I suggest Saturday, 20 August 2011, and I offer one of our global
party venues in Toronto.  What say you?  On what date will you
celebrate seven years of OSM in your town?

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[OSM-talk] Video for conferences (loosely related to SotM-EU)

2011-07-21 Thread Richard Weait
Dear All,

A recurring question for FLOSS conferences in general is;

What's the best way to stream our presentations to those who can't be
here, and to store them for the historical record.

I don't know the answer.  The team at SotM-EU did a super job of
recording the talks and posting them quickly.  I've run across a
F/LOSS project that offers similar functions, in FreeSeer.  i've not
tried it yet and will welcome feedback from any with experience with
it.

https://github.com/fosslc/freeseer/wiki/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread pavithran
On 21 July 2011 21:12, Andreas Labres  wrote:
> it's just a matter of time doing the mixing &
> encoding (in contrast to the Matterhorn system, which ran automatically, this
> has to be done manually...).
Ohh thats an extra work . Will patiently wait :)

Regards,
Pavithran

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread Andreas Labres
On 21.07.11 12:44, Mitja Kleider wrote:
> The non-Matterhorn downloads linked in the schedule include slides and
> speaker as picture in picture. Thanks again!

You're welcome. Markus did those for the two keynotes on friday. We could of
course do it for other talks too, it's just a matter of time doing the mixing &
encoding (in contrast to the Matterhorn system, which ran automatically, this
has to be done manually...).

Thanks to you all for coming
- Andreas

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Re: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.

2011-07-21 Thread Anthony
I thought we were supposed to only be talking about this stuff on legal-talk.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> The License Working Group takes the position that it is now
> appropriate to begin reconciling the data touched by users who have
> explicitly declined CT/ODbL.  LWG feels that those users who have not
> responded should have a grace period of another week or two.  You can
> find the list of usernames that have declined here.
> http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/license/  This page is updated every
> hour.
>
> As always, map areas that you know well and in small pieces.  At this
> point don't remove non-compliant data unless you are replacing it;
> another mapper may be able to replace it from local knowledge or
> survey.  Bulk edits and or automated edits and or bots to reconcile
> non-compliant data are not welcome without previous, detailed
> discussion on the dev@ and or imports@ lists.  Share your experiences
> to find the most effective workflows for improving OpenStreetMap data
> quality.
>
> - Check your local mapping area for data that is not completely
> CT/ODbL compliant.  In Potlatch2, choose Options, and check "Show
> license status".  There is also a licensechange plugin for JOSM.
>
> - Consider sending personal messages before you edit to those who have
> not accepted or those who have declined based on your judgement.  Some
> users have declined and indicated on their user pages that they will
> not reconsider.  We do not wish to send unwelcome or duplicate
> messages.  See also
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL
>
> - Replace the data of users who have explicitly declined CT/ODbL with
> your own contributions from survey and other acceptable sources.
>
> - While this initial stage is focused on replacing data touched by
> users who have explicitly declined, you might find data touched by
> users who have not yet responded.  We leave it to your judgement to
> replace that data now or wait another week or two.
>
> Once you begin replacing data, check on a regular basis whether the
> user in question hasn't changed his/her mind and has accepted CT/ODbL.
> You can look at http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/license/, this is
> updated every hour.
>
> Best regards,
> Richard Weait,
> on behalf of the License Working Group.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew
Richard Weait  weait.com> writes:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> The License Working Group takes the position that it is now
> appropriate to begin reconciling the data touched by users who have
> explicitly declined CT/ODbL.  LWG feels that those users who have not
> responded should have a grace period of another week or two.

What about data that was edited anonymously?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread SomeoneElse

On 21/07/2011 11:44, Mitja Kleider wrote:


The Matterhorn recording system has audio and video in various formats,
you can query them by talk-id:
http://matterhorn.zserv.tuwien.ac.at/search/rest/episode?id=Unscheduled-lecturetube-ei7-1310734982522

Search for Camera.avi or Screen.avi and you will find a download url.
Note that speaker (Camera) and slides (Screen) are separate videos.
There is also .flv in high and low resolution and audio only (.m4a).



Thanks - that works.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread Mitja Kleider
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 00:40 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote:
> > All videos should now be online. If there's still a video missing we 
> > do not have the right to publish it or we have technical problems with 
> > the video (Steves Keynote seems not to work. Andreas Trawöger is still 
> > working on this together with the TU Teaching Support Center.)

The first download links appeared already, thanks for the fast response!


> The embedded video player is unwatchable now (even when most people in 
> Austria are probably asleep).  Just the audio downloads are really all 
> that need to be downloaded (the links to the presentations are already 
> available in various formats).  Could these (or as Pavi suggests the raw 
> .flv files) be made available (in any format, as long as they're 
> downloadable)?

The Matterhorn recording system has audio and video in various formats,
you can query them by talk-id:
http://matterhorn.zserv.tuwien.ac.at/search/rest/episode?id=Unscheduled-lecturetube-ei7-1310734982522

Search for Camera.avi or Screen.avi and you will find a download url.
Note that speaker (Camera) and slides (Screen) are separate videos.
There is also .flv in high and low resolution and audio only (.m4a).

The non-Matterhorn downloads linked in the schedule include slides and
speaker as picture in picture. Thanks again!


Mitja


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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-21 Thread Fabian Schmidt


Am 20.07.11 schrieb Andrew Guertin:


http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/


Is this using old data?


Yes. The license data is updated three times per day, but the map data 
including the object history is still from April. An update to the data of 
the recent full planet dump from June is in progress.


So, a way will change it's colour after a user accepts the license. But it 
will stay in the old colour for some weeks if the way is recreated with a 
new ID.



Fabian.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew
Richard Weait  weait.com> writes:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> The License Working Group takes the position that it is now
> appropriate to begin reconciling the data touched by users who have
> explicitly declined CT/ODbL.  LWG feels that those users who have not
> responded should have a grace period of another week or two.

What about anonymous contributions?

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[OSM-talk] Whitelisting (Re: Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.)

2011-07-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Toby Murray wrote:
> User balrog-kun has explicitly declined the license. He ran a bot 
> that expanded abbreviations in TIGER street names in the western 
> US which means that virtually every named street west of the 
> Mississippi shows up as "tainted" in P2.
> 
> *BUT*
> 
> He has explicitly stated multiple times that he intends for these 
> bot edits to be relicensed under ODbL. So if balrog-kun is the 
> only declining user to have touched a road, there is no need to 
> replace it.

We could, I think, do with a public whitelist of such cases.

It could encompass situations such as balrog-kun's, where (AIUI) all his
edits within a certain bbox are relicensable.

It could also list those few users who have declined the Contributor Terms,
but who have also publicly stated that they claim no rights in their
contributions and therefore are happy for them to be relicensed. TimSC is
perhaps the most obvious example, and I think someone mentioned Florian
Lohoff too.


> The "ODBL coverage" map ( http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/
> map/ ) takes this into account but P2 does not.

P2 just displays whatever WTFE (http://wtfe.gryph.de/) tells it. Any issue
needs to be solved at the WTFE level.

cheers
Richard



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Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI compability layer

2011-07-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II

Roland Olbricht wrote:
> 
>> It looks like you're missing the "expand ways" step. For example, a query
>> like this:
> 
> Thank you for reporting this. It should be fixed now. Do I understand it 
> right, this does not apply to relations?
> 
The old XAPI did this for relations too, but the JXAPI doesn't. I prefer the
latter, since it's common that I'll want to download the members of only a
few relations of the bunch. But I can see the former being useful too;
perhaps this could be handled with a flag.

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