Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-25 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi,

I would like to thank the programmers for the professional piece of
software and for the founders of the iD project.
And I would like to apologize for the oversceptic and rude style of
some of the participants in this mailing list.

Yours, Stefan


2013/5/25 Russ Nelson :
> RB writes:
>  > ID is a wonderful editor, simple and intuitive.  Although I am mostly a
>  > JOSN user, I know at least 2 beginners who feel confident enough to edit
>  > the map since there is ID.
>  >
>  > Thanks very much for it. It is helping OSM a lot.
>
> This is ridiculous. I tried ID, and it didn't make my penis bigger OR
> harder, my breasts didn't get bigger, I didn't get six-pack abs, and I
> didn't get shaplier thighs in just six weeks. All it did was make it
> easy to edit OSM. What the hell is up with THAT?!??
>
> I want my money back. MONEY BACK!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is
probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but
is there more?

 

Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email
communicat...@osmfoundation.org.

 

From: James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10 PM
To: talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped
bridge quickly

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almo
st-quickly-it-6C10067906
 
If I remember correctly, we had it marked as "access=no" and the segment
removed about an hour faster than on Google.  Somebody needs to get ahold of
Rosa from NBC (who did the "article") and let them know about OSM pawning
Google here.
 
-James

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Johan C
For the press it's simple: everybody knows Google, Google is 'hot'.
Openstreetmap is relatively unknown. So writing about Openstreetmap won't
attract a lot of viewers for an article. And I wonder whether the community
really wants to see Openstreetmap turn into a big player which attracts a
lot of press coverage. That is, I don't read it in OSMF's mission statement:


   - To make OSM data available for anyone (for editing and in whole).
   - The data being current.
   - The data to approach geographic truth (or “ground truth”).
   - That humans add and curate data.
   - That the data and responsibility for it belong to all contributors.
   - To facilitate decision-making in the community where necessary.
   - To be the ultimate “court” of conflict resolution.

Cheers, Johan



2013/5/25 Paul Norman 

> How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is
> probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but
> is there more?
>
> ** **
>
> Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email
> communicat...@osmfoundation.org.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10 PM
> *To:* talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5
> colasped bridge quickly
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almost-quickly-it-6C10067906
>
> If I remember correctly, we had it marked as "access=no" and the segment
> removed about an hour faster than on Google.  Somebody needs to get ahold
> of Rosa from NBC (who did the "article") and let them know about OSM
> pawning Google here.
>
> -James
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paweł Paprota
Things like these and in general -mania really only show how upside down the world is
nowadays.

Does OSM really want press like that? I'm not sure... true, it would
"get the word out" about OSM but is that the "proper" way to publicize?
I think people don't really care that some bridge was removed or added
or whatever, they just see the word "Google" or "Apple" in the headline.

How did Wikipedia become a household name? I don't know but I'm not sure
if it was because they wanted to get silly publicity like this. I would
bet it had more to do with the actual content and quality of their
project.

Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow "easier" because all of their
work gets indexed by search engines and the more links to Wikipedia the
better place in search results = automatic publicity to pretty much
everyone who uses the internet.

Back on topic, I don't think "journalists" who write those
articles/headlines will be interested in OSM any time soon. And that's a
good thing in my book.

Paweł

On Sat, May 25, 2013, at 9:40, Paul Norman wrote:
> How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is
> probably more people volunteering for the communications working group,
> but
> is there more?
> 
>  
> 
> Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email
> communicat...@osmfoundation.org.
> 
>  
> 
> From: James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10 PM
> To: talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped
> bridge quickly
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almo
> st-quickly-it-6C10067906
>  
> If I remember correctly, we had it marked as "access=no" and the segment
> removed about an hour faster than on Google.  Somebody needs to get ahold
> of
> Rosa from NBC (who did the "article") and let them know about OSM pawning
> Google here.
>  
> -James
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Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Russ Nelson wrote:
> This is ridiculous. I tried ID, and it didn't make my penis bigger 
> OR harder, my breasts didn't get bigger, I didn't get six-pack 
> abs, and I didn't get shaplier thighs in just six weeks.

You should submit an issue on github. I believe there's a Math.abs function
in JS so the third issue should be fixable, at least.

cheers
Richard





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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2013-05-25 07:09, James Mast wrote:

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almost-quickly-it-6C10067906
[1]

If I remember correctly, we had it marked as "access=no" and the
segment removed about an hour faster than on Google. Somebody needs to
get ahold of Rosa from NBC (who did the "article") and let them know
about OSM pawning Google here.


Google is known by the public.
Recently there was an important addition to the motorways around 
Amsterdam here [1] (opening of the A5, 2e Coentunnel). Google didn't 
have correct maps until 1,5 week afterwards. Of course OSM had correct 
maps almost instantly (it was only unfortunate that there was a small 
error and that osrm only updates once a week).


Maybe we need to be more vocal and send out messages to various news 
sites when a new road is opened and it is on OSM and not on Google.


[1] 



Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer




On 25/mag/2013, at 10:33, Paweł Paprota  wrote:

> Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow "easier" because all of their
> work gets indexed by search engines


Also osm is indexed by search engines

cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paweł Paprota

On 05/25/2013 12:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:



Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow "easier" because all of their
work gets indexed by search engines



Also osm is indexed by search engines



Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in 
the internet?


When you search for Vienna or Berlin for example, Wikipedia is the top 
result. Link to OSM is nowhere to be found (at least on the first 10 
pages of search results, after that I gave up looking for it).


Paweł


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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread pec...@gmail.com
For those who are still naive to think that journalists find out these
things themselves: Google has huge amount of money to waste on PR. If last
two years is evidence everyone is happy to advertise "new stuff" of their
maps, because it's very easy for people to relate to.

I don't see how OSM would want to play this game. We don't see logic in
this. However, this make PR work.

Peteris.


2013/5/25 Maarten Deen 

> On 2013-05-25 07:09, James Mast wrote:
>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/**technology/collapsed-i-5-**
>> bridge-gone-google-maps-**almost-quickly-it-6C10067906
>> [1]
>>
>>
>> If I remember correctly, we had it marked as "access=no" and the
>> segment removed about an hour faster than on Google. Somebody needs to
>> get ahold of Rosa from NBC (who did the "article") and let them know
>> about OSM pawning Google here.
>>
>
> Google is known by the public.
> Recently there was an important addition to the motorways around Amsterdam
> here [1] (opening of the A5, 2e Coentunnel). Google didn't have correct
> maps until 1,5 week afterwards. Of course OSM had correct maps almost
> instantly (it was only unfortunate that there was a small error and that
> osrm only updates once a week).
>
> Maybe we need to be more vocal and send out messages to various news sites
> when a new road is opened and it is on OSM and not on Google.
>
> [1]  14&layers=M
> >
>
> Regards,
> Maarten
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2013-05-25 12:19, pec...@gmail.com wrote:

For those who are still naive to think that journalists find out
these things themselves: Google has huge amount of money to waste on
PR. If last two years is evidence everyone is happy to advertise "new
stuff" of their maps, because it's very easy for people to relate to.


Of course, "money spent" in Google terms is "effort" in OSM terms, 
since we all contribute to OSM without getting paid (ok, some are 
fortunate enough that someone actually pays them to work on OSM, but 
most of us are not in that position).



I don't see how OSM would want to play this game. We don't see logic
in this. However, this make PR work.


Apparently there are people who think it is important. Why would we not 
want to improve on OSM by getting it know to the public? OSM starts to 
have a huge benefit for people. I can't download the maps for my 
navigation from Google, I get them from OSM. I certainly benefit from 
having a more complete Openstreetmap.


Regards,
Maarten


2013/5/25 Maarten Deen 


On 2013-05-25 07:09, James Mast wrote:

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almost-quickly-it-6C10067906 
[1]

[1]

If I remember correctly, we had it marked as "access=no" and the
segment removed about an hour faster than on Google. Somebody needs 
to

get ahold of Rosa from NBC (who did the "article") and let them know
about OSM pawning Google here.


Google is known by the public.
Recently there was an important addition to the motorways around 
Amsterdam here [1] (opening of the A5, 2e Coentunnel). Google didn't 
have correct maps until 1,5 week afterwards. Of course OSM had correct 
maps almost instantly (it was only unfortunate that there was a small 
error and that osrm only updates once a week).


Maybe we need to be more vocal and send out messages to various news 
sites when a new road is opened and it is on OSM and not on Google.


[1] 





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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Christian Quest
We did some media work around a new highway opening near Lyon.

It has been quite well received. We turned it around route
calculations as most players had outdated data the route proposed was
much longer than using the new highway ;)

http://openstreetmap.fr/a89

This page has been visited much more than usually and the referers
traced back to several local newspapers and website/blogs.


Taking advantage of a bridge collapse is another issue.. I don't feel
confortable of doing media work around something like that because it
is too much linked with a negative event.


Next media work is about Roland Garros international tennis tournament
which will start tomorrow outside of Paris... the area never looked as
great as on http://u.osmfr.org/m/275/ ;)


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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Simon Poole

Am 25.05.2013 13:09, schrieb Maarten Deen:
> On 2013-05-25 12:19, pec...@gmail.com wrote:
>> For those who are still naive to think that journalists find out
>> these things themselves: Google has huge amount of money to waste on
>> PR. If last two years is evidence everyone is happy to advertise "new
>> stuff" of their maps, because it's very easy for people to relate to.
>
> Of course, "money spent" in Google terms is "effort" in OSM terms,
> since we all contribute to OSM without getting paid (ok, some are
> fortunate enough that someone actually pays them to work on OSM, but
> most of us are not in that position).
>
>> I don't see how OSM would want to play this game. We don't see logic
>> in this. However, this make PR work.
>
> Apparently there are people who think it is important. Why would we
> not want to improve on OSM by getting it know to the public? OSM
> starts to have a huge benefit for people. I can't download the maps
> for my navigation from Google, I get them from OSM. I certainly
> benefit from having a more complete Openstreetmap.

I don't think there is any active opposition against making OSM more
popular :-).

The question is more does it make any sense to try engage in
one-upmanship with google. It is just unlikely that we can win at their
own game, we have neither their resources nor can we easily make the
media so dependent on us as they are on google.

I believe it makes more sense to rely on word of mouth and to employ
guerilla marketing tactics to get the word out than sending out press
releases (we could try for a while to see if it makes difference
naturally).  However, as has already been said, what we really need
right now is less theorizing on talk and more hands in the CWG.

Simon



 


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Re: [OSM-talk] Abmelden

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Re: [OSM-talk] Unsubscribe

2013-05-25 Thread colliar
On 25.05.2013 14:09, Martin Schafran wrote:
> geh auf
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It is very common for a mailing list to offer the unsubscribe link in
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Re: [OSM-talk] Unsubscribe

2013-05-25 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM, colliar  wrote:

> It is very common for a mailing list to offer the unsubscribe link in
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> Is there a reason to not adding the link to the footer ?

There's an unsubscribe link in the headers, and there's information on
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Re: [OSM-talk] Unsubscribe

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Kilian

Hi,


It is very common for a mailing list to offer the unsubscribe link in
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The list already adds a link to the listinfo page which already contains 
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Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-25 Thread colliar
On 24.05.2013 21:51, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 24.05.2013 18:30, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>> By the way you do realize that Cameroon and other equatorial areas have
>> a significant advantage to higher latitudes in this measurement.  So it
>> might be prudent to not only say 'FSVO mapped' but also 'FSVO densely'.
> 
> I re-did the list with "nodes per square kilometre", although this also
> renders the basic idea of looking at z16 meta tiles kind of arbitrary.
> 
> Here's the result:
> 
> http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/density/sqkm.html
> 
> Cameroon still features near the top but France has grabbed the first
> four spots.

Thanks Frederik

Still think the results are illusions and it is no wonder to almost only
find areas with open and imported cadastre data.

1. Better take the population density and not just the area
2. Would be nice to only clean out imported data which has not been
modified after.

I am not willed to map every tree in the forest or ever sand grain in
the dessert to compete in this list.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Johan C
2013/5/25 Christian Quest 

> Next media work is about Roland Garros international tennis tournament
> which will start tomorrow outside of Paris... the area never looked as
> great as on http://u.osmfr.org/m/275/ ;)
>

That's a beautiful piece of work, Compliments to the French community for
that

Will your media work include NBC's Rosa Golijan? She will be stunned to see
the quality compared to Google Maps!

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Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-25 Thread Simon Poole

Am 25.05.2013 15:41, schrieb colliar:
> I am not willed to map every tree in the forest or ever sand grain in
> the dessert to compete in this list. Colliar
I believe you fundamentally misunderstood the purpose of the list,
higher up is not "better".

Simon


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[OSM-talk] Read-only for next few hours

2013-05-25 Thread Grant Slater
OpenStreetMap,

OpenStreetMap has just gone read-only to fix an urgent issue with the
primary database server indexes.
We do not have an ETA other than hours.

Any questions are best directed to #osm on
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Re: [OSM-talk] Read-only for next few hours

2013-05-25 Thread Grant Slater
Further
We have had to disable read-only access now too due to the website
locking when running queries.

/ Grant

On 25 May 2013 15:58, Grant Slater  wrote:
> OpenStreetMap,
>
> OpenStreetMap has just gone read-only to fix an urgent issue with the
> primary database server indexes.
> We do not have an ETA other than hours.
>
> Any questions are best directed to #osm on
> http://irc.openstreetmap.org (OFTC.net network.)
>
> Support for the hardware funding drive is greatly appreciated:
> http://donate.openstreetmap.org/
>
> Regards
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Re: [OSM-talk] Read-only for next few hours

2013-05-25 Thread Grant Slater
OpenStreetMap is now back online.
All services are returned to normal.

/ Grant

On 25 May 2013 16:01, Grant Slater  wrote:
> Further
> We have had to disable read-only access now too due to the website
> locking when running queries.
>
> / Grant
>
> On 25 May 2013 15:58, Grant Slater  wrote:
>> OpenStreetMap,
>>
>> OpenStreetMap has just gone read-only to fix an urgent issue with the
>> primary database server indexes.
>> We do not have an ETA other than hours.
>>
>> Any questions are best directed to #osm on
>> http://irc.openstreetmap.org (OFTC.net network.)
>>
>> Support for the hardware funding drive is greatly appreciated:
>> http://donate.openstreetmap.org/
>>
>> Regards
>>  Grant
>>  Part of OpenStreetMap sysadmin team.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Russ Nelson
Paweł Paprota writes:
 > Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in 
 > the internet?

Sure. I link to them all the time (warning, these are all associated
with railroads, so if you're not a railfan, click at your peril!):

This search:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/openstreetmap%20%22russell%20nelson%22
yields:

In which I give instructions on how to make your own similar links:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/adUrTxQcFdu

https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/QWSPRQfGmfF
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/GHVeUbUUe1f
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/F21WCHtVFMZ
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/2pyBNZA5xTG
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/PbN8gt8jq2f
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/LJ72jibjbcY
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/Wughutz9aZR
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/PAqbT8BAgbz
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/EbwvTgSFG4o
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/EUonnp8r2Rq
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/7ySW2GZnuJ3

http://railroad.net/forums/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=openstreetmap

https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/592687384098114/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/592649574101895/
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Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-25 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

colliar wrote:

I am not willed to map every tree in the forest or ever sand grain in
the dessert to compete in this list.


On 25.05.2013 16:28, Simon Poole wrote:

I believe you fundamentally misunderstood the purpose of the list,
higher up is not "better".


;)

The real purpose for me to make such lists is for my own use; when I set 
up tile servers, I often pre-render the world from zoom levels 0 to 12, 
and then I pre-render some parts of the world on 13+, namely those that 
are densely mapped - assuming that the densely mapped areas are usually 
also those that people are interested in.


There used to be a time when the densely mapped areas were, mostly, city 
centres of all kind, or other areas that people were very interested in 
(and that would therefore be likely to be viewed, so it made sense to 
pre-render them).


It isn't like that any more - among the most densely mapped areas on the 
planet there are many that not many people are interested in. When I 
drew up the list and zoomed in to some of the regions, there was a 
noticeable delay as our tile server was rendering the images that I 
requested - because, I can only assume, I was the first in a long-ish 
time to request them.


Still it makes sense to pre-render these very dense areas because they 
are the ones that, if requested on the fly, will be exceptionally slow ;)


Also, I thought that the list might be of interest to those test-driving 
a new renderer or editor, because before too long every area on the 
planet will look like these in OSM - so you better test-drive your 
software on those.


Is it "good" to be at the top in that list? In my eyes, if such a 
densely mapped area has an active community that has surveyed or at 
least procured and curated all that data, then they deserve our utmost 
respect for it. But they would deserve the same respect if they had only 
created half as much data ;) on the other hand, if an area is at the top 
and the person who imported the data doesn't even know the name of the 
place then well - nice looking map but not really an achievement to be 
proud of.


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Cartinus
What are these 8 pitches? They are tagged "source=Bing", but don't look
like anything in the Bing background of P2.



On 05/25/2013 01:24 PM, Christian Quest wrote:
> Next media work is about Roland Garros international tennis tournament
> which will start tomorrow outside of Paris... the area never looked as
> great as on http://u.osmfr.org/m/275/ ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Read-only for next few hours

2013-05-25 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi Grant,

> OpenStreetMap is now back online.
> All services are returned to normal.

Thank you for the quick fix :)

Cheers,

Roland


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer


Am 25/mag/2013 um 12:22 schrieb Paweł Paprota :

> Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in the 
> internet?


Yes, I noted this because of a misspelled street name, but it also works for 
correctly spelled ones, if you put osm to the search term you'll see them 
sooner. Being indexed doesn't of course guarantee that you are in the top 
results.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=osm+via+roma

Cheers,
Martin
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