Re: [OSM-talk] presenting the case for open data to local government?

2013-10-15 Thread Michal Migurski
On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Daniel Joseph wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had experience conveying to local government all 
> the reasons for opening up data. The city where I grew up has a clunky "GIS 
> web portal" with which you can only view data. A neighboring city will 
> provide data but their data release form includes the following: "The data is 
> provided solely for the use of the requesting party and may not be made 
> available to anyone else."
> 
> I want to put together a succinct and well-documented argument that I can 
> send along to a city council member/ mayor/ city manager/ etc.
> 
> Anything you're willing to pass along (comments, suggestions, something 
> you've written up, research, etc) would be much appreciated.

The cities we work with at Code for America are already pretty much on-board 
with open data, but the GIS departments and data owners often have 
reservations. They worry about how the inevitable mistakes in the data will be 
perceived, about liability, and about a wider community of data users 
complaining to them.

Do you have the bandwidth to hold hands a bit, and offer a chance for cities to 
accept data changes from the broader community? Many of the OSM-based change 
detection projects like OWL and Changewithin might help with this. I've been 
working on an update to Changewithin designed to address cities beyond New 
York, for example:
https://github.com/migurski/changewithin

Some chit-chat on the subject here:
https://github.com/osmlab/changewithin/pull/14

-mike.


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Re: [OSM-talk] presenting the case for open data to local government?

2013-10-15 Thread Ian Villeda

Hey Dan,

I realize these aren't arguments per se but solid people to talk to. You may 
want to hit up Elliot Plack , who works for Baltimore 
County GIS and recently helped open the county's GIS data under public domain 
for contribution to OSM. 

Another high level contact might be Colin Reilly 
https://twitter.com/ColinReillyNY at NYC Department of Information Technology 
and Telecommunications who helped open the NYC building footprint data in a 
practical way.  

-- 
ian
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On Thursday, October 10, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Daniel Joseph wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had experience conveying to local government all 
> the reasons for opening up data. The city where I grew up has a clunky "GIS 
> web portal" with which you can only view data. A neighboring city will 
> provide data but their data release form includes the following: "The data is 
> provided solely for the use of the requesting party and may not be made 
> available to anyone else." 
> 
> I want to put together a succinct and well-documented argument that I can 
> send along to a city council member/ mayor/ city manager/ etc. 
> 
> Anything you're willing to pass along (comments, suggestions, something 
> you've written up, research, etc) would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> 
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[OSM-talk] presenting the case for open data to local government?

2013-10-15 Thread Daniel Joseph
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone had experience conveying to local government all
the reasons for opening up data. The city where I grew up has a clunky "GIS
web portal" with which you can only view data. A neighboring city will
provide data but their data release form includes the following: "The data
is provided solely for the use of the requesting party and may not be made
available to anyone else."

I want to put together a succinct and well-documented argument that I can
send along to a city council member/ mayor/ city manager/ etc.

Anything you're willing to pass along (comments, suggestions, something
you've written up, research, etc) would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Dan
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